Classify this neanderthal, Ron Perlman

[Kouros]

Is he even human?

https://i.imgur.com/XyYYIZU.png

[NSXD60]

Huh, huh, huh huuuumaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
http://i65.tinypic.com/21mxm9s.png

[Veslan]

Brunn

[Grab the Gauge]

Looks nothing like a Neanderthal, isn't Brunn.

[Columella]

Great Ron Perlman! Fantastic face.
I respect how he suffered prostetics in most of his films.
also quite active in French cinema.
he seems a rugged Nordic-Mediterranean and maybe a peculiar Jewish look.
David Mamet (also Jewish I guess) has achieved a kind of similar look
https://media.salon.com/2001/09/david_mamet-293x307.jpg
Also close in most proportions and even in hair and how it is attached to American actor tony Roberts who I believe is also of Jewish background
https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/gettyimages-150287548.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

[Kouros]

Looks nothing like a Neanderthal, isn't Brunn.

classify pls

[Odin]

Atlanto-Med + CM.

[safinator]

Bruenn

[The Blade]

Brunn.

[Papastratosels26]

Brunn

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[Zroota]

Brunn + Carpathid

[Columella]

I agree with post #5 mainly Mediterranean. Mediterranean metrical range.
No Bruenn.
Compare how small/narrow faced he is compared to Alpine Mexican.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Guillermo+del+Toro+Ron+Perlman+Pacific+Rim+bYlwrhn utH_l.jpg

[MobyD]

LOL at Brunn. He is fully Ashkenazi.

[Tong]

I agree with post #5 mainly Mediterranean. Mediterranean metrical range.
No Bruenn.
Compare how small/narrow faced he is compared to Alpine Mexican.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Guillermo+del+Toro+Ron+Perlman+Pacific+Rim+bYlwrhn utH_l.jpg

Toro's just fat. Perlman's face is the antithesis of tiny.

[Bmack]

LOL at Brunn. He is fully Ashkenazi.

brunn can have some resemblances with semitic upper paleolithic types, they share the same proto-caucasoid origin through I haplogroup probably, but very old. That's why you get curly haired irish brunns. The best explanation.

[Gaditanian]

He is fully Ashkenazi.

And?

[Creoda]

And?
And it makes a mockery of classification. He doesn't look remotely NW Euro. He has that East Med thing of the bottom half of the head being wider than the top half but receding, like a bowling pin.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NfcT1j1tj8A/hqdefault.jpg
http://flx-editorial-wordpress.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/The-Last-Supper.jpg
https://www.looktothestars.org/photo/10948-ron-perlman-sons-of-anarchy-star-embraces-the-carry-the-challenge-one-campaign/story_wide-1478801724.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/gjhtfMzC/824-Ron-Perlman.jpg

Pure NW Euro Brunn's should be rectangular headed:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/HenryTraversTheBellsofSaintMarysTrailerScreenshot1 945.jpg
https://collectionimages.npg.org.uk/std/mw58691/Joan-Sutherland.jpg

[XenophobicPrussian]

I'm not going to classify him(someone asked me to), but I will say that there should be one universal definition of Brunn agreed upon already. I see a lot of people and different types of looks tossed around as Brunn.

The specific British looking Brunn:

https://bucket.mn2s.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/21173151/James-May-mn2s.png

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/-V9LmH69pxEmLLrS0fCF732yMBs=/0x0:626x417/1200x800/filters:focal(0x0:626x417)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/46352000/ii.0.0.jpg

https://www.mmaindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/maxresdefault.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/G5DNEH/comedy-shorts-stephen-fry-G5DNEH.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-races-of-the-world/images/6/61/2yyxrmx.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190815091634
(above 4 are better examples though, bottom right guy is Borreby-Brunn, middle top is Kelto-Brunn)

The also British but pseudo-Baltid influenced looking Brunn:

https://1187604958.rsc.cdn77.org/data/images/full/201828/482757492-jpg.jpg

https://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Paul+Williams+v+Winky+Wright+ABH473Cl2I5l.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2C40DHF/professional-boxer-ricky-hatton-at-his-training-gym-in-manchester-england-27th-may-2004-the-sportsman-won-world-championships-including-boxing-ligh-2C40DHF.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-races-of-the-world/images/c/c8/Brunn-0.png/revision/latest?cb=20190610090710

https://cagesidepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/UFC-244-Weigh-In-27.jpg

and the Coon Brunn or oldschool Brunn, basically any type of long faced, doli type without progressive/reduced features(even though Coon's examples are a mix of British Brunn, Tronder and Nordo-Borreby really, not sure else what to call it):

https://static.tvno.nu/70543?forceFit=0&height=540&quality=50&width=400

They cannot all be the same phenotype(imo of course), as there's great variation.

Again, I'm not classifying him, but I think you COULD make the argument Perlman fits into the third category(although his faced is a bit long and head is a bit small for Brunns, which might mess up the "metrics", not sure), and while I do see what Creoda is saying, I do think he does look NW Euro(or NW Euro+SSA, don't see Med features), ugly dindu prognathism aside. Infact, given Perlman has archaic, almost negro/Papuan-like features, it could be argued his prognathism is a good example of a "classic Brunn"(again, I'm not saying the classic Brunn should be what the modern Brunn term is used for, it'd actually be my last choice), given Coon based his Brunn type off the Brno/Predmosti Czech UP skulls. They had prognathism too, which is unsurprising given earlier Paleolithic Europeans(and all Paleolithic humans) had a Papuan affinity until the full WHG/Villabruna clade formed and also higher Neanderthal.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Homo_sapiens_sapiens_%282238258674%29.jpg

https://www.prints-online.com/p/164/homo-sapiens-cranium-predmosti-3-cast-8624428.jpg

https://media.sciencephoto.com/c0/16/49/69/c0164969-800px-wm.jpg

So yeah, if tl;dr, basically Brunn has quite a view definitions(atleast on anthrofora).

[Immanenz]

very nice post XP

its a fact that Paleo types were prognathic, while modern Brunn examples have quite the opposite long, robust postive chins.(btw Schwarzenegger was also slightly prognathic.)

On Ron Perlman- he looks mainly Up, although headsize is similar to Paleo Sardinian (very small headed) which is indeed more of a Southerner trait.

i dont think he looks NW-Euro but he has rather an ambigous look- a mix of all his ethnicities imo.

here he looks kinda Russian:
https://en.24smi.org/public/media/2019/6/17/03-h9w4zcb.jpg

on this pic guy more German/Jewish mix or so
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdAErFkXJkO5l9NJPPeuE5FVfHZKNXd JKpsw&usqp=CAU

btw Islandic footballer Johann Gudmunsson is the good looking version of Ron (kinda)
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/89231-1462872951.jpg?lm=1462872969

[Gaditanian]

He has that East Med thing of the bottom half of the head being wider than the top half but receding, like a bowling pin.


Now I understand, Agree with you :thumb001:

[dududud]

Ugly european face.

[Tarlus Magnus]

Ugly european face.

ye he looks kinda inbred, no wonder they chose him for the name of the rose (1986)

[Madonna]

Brunn/North Atlantid