For South Italy and Greece, Eurogenes K15 sum of MENA components by region.

[Sikeliot]

I am going to do 5 random people from each region if possible and ranked them in terms of the most to least combined "East Med" + "West Asian" + "Red Sea".

The regions are in order from most to least MENA affinity based on the sample of 5 for each.

This is the ranking:

Calabria/Dodecanese
Messina/Catania/Crete/Palermo
North Aegean/Cyclades/Agrigento/Caltanissetta
Ragusa/Trapani
Syracuse
Peloponnese
North Greece


Calabria 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.83
2 West_Med 17.24
3 West_Asian 15.26
4 Atlantic 9.09
5 Red_Sea 8.06
6 Baltic 6.7
7 North_Sea 3.26
8 Northeast_African 2.97
9 Eastern_Euro 2.59

SUM = 58.15

Calabria 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.78
2 Atlantic 15.33
3 West_Med 15.19
4 West_Asian 15.1
5 Baltic 7.49
6 Red_Sea 6.86
7 North_Sea 5.09
8 Southeast_Asian 0.89
9 Northeast_African 0.25
10 Eastern_Euro 0.01

SUM = 55.74

Calabria 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.98
2 Atlantic 18.09
3 West_Med 17.38
4 West_Asian 16.97
5 Red_Sea 7.35
6 Baltic 3.45
7 North_Sea 2.17
8 Northeast_African 1.11
9 Amerindian 0.97
10 Eastern_Euro 0.71
11 South_Asian 0.32
12 Oceanian 0.27
13 Sub-Saharan 0.15
14 Siberian 0.08

SUM = 55.3

Calabria 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.34
2 West_Med 18.42
3 West_Asian 11.08
4 Atlantic 10.91
5 North_Sea 8.61
6 Red_Sea 7.76
7 Eastern_Euro 3.74
8 Baltic 2.29
9 Northeast_African 1.73
10 Oceanian 0.12

SUM = 54.18

Calabria 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.35
2 West_Med 19.34
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 13.22
5 Red_Sea 10.9
6 North_Sea 4.61
7 Baltic 3.18
8 Eastern_Euro 1.54
9 Northeast_African 0.73
10 Oceanian 0.43

SUM = 56.94

CALABRIA AVERAGE: 56.06


Dodecanese 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.38
2 West_Asian 18.29
3 West_Med 17.94
4 North_Sea 9.68
5 Baltic 6.67
6 Atlantic 5.67
7 Red_Sea 3.86
8 Eastern_Euro 2.93
9 South_Asian 0.32
10 Southeast_Asian 0.26

SUM = 56.53

Dodecanese 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.18
2 West_Asian 21.21
3 West_Med 15.11
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 North_Sea 7.28
6 Eastern_Euro 6.24
7 Red_Sea 5.32
8 Baltic 1.45
9 Southeast_Asian 0.82
10 Amerindian 0.22
11 Siberian 0.02

SUM = 57.71

Dodecanese 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.05
2 West_Asian 16.6
3 West_Med 15.66
4 Atlantic 12.56
5 North_Sea 12.52
6 Baltic 7.61
7 Red_Sea 4.96
8 South_Asian 0.95
9 Eastern_Euro 0.68
10 Siberian 0.41

SUM = 49.61

Dodecanese 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.44
2 West_Asian 19.62
3 West_Med 17.01
4 North_Sea 10.31
5 Atlantic 5.95
6 Red_Sea 5.58
7 Baltic 5.34
8 Eastern_Euro 4.25
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 Northeast_African 0.76
11 Siberian 0.35
12 Southeast_Asian 0.28
13 Amerindian 0.23
14 Sub-Saharan 0.09

SUM = 54.64

Dodecanese 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.08
2 West_Asian 20.95
3 West_Med 15.1
4 North_Sea 7.78
5 Atlantic 7.26
6 Red_Sea 6.27
7 Eastern_Euro 5.72
8 Baltic 3.02
9 Siberian 0.57
10 Northeast_African 0.25

SUM = 60.3

DODECANESE AVERAGE = 55.76



Messina 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.45
2 West_Med 21
3 West_Asian 15.04
4 Atlantic 11.26
5 North_Sea 10.8
6 Red_Sea 6.02
7 Baltic 3.87
8 Northeast_African 1.98
9 Siberian 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Sub-Saharan 0.01

SUM = 50.51

Messina 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.06
2 West_Med 18.3
3 West_Asian 15.64
4 Atlantic 11.93
5 Red_Sea 6.85
6 Baltic 6.17
7 North_Sea 3.8
8 Northeast_African 1.52
9 Eastern_Euro 1.51
10 Southeast_Asian 1.13
11 Oceanian 0.1

SUM = 55.55

Messina 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.84
2 Atlantic 19
3 West_Asian 17.14
4 West_Med 15.76
5 Red_Sea 6.64
6 Baltic 5.11
7 North_Sea 2.29
8 Northeast_African 2.14
9 Sub-Saharan 0.46
10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
11 Eastern_Euro 0.3

SUM = 54.62

Messina 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.43
2 West_Med 19.45
3 West_Asian 14.89
4 Atlantic 10.96
5 North_Sea 7.97
6 Red_Sea 6.98
7 Eastern_Euro 4.99
8 Baltic 4.34
9 Northeast_African 1.99

SUM = 50.3

Messina 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.87
2 West_Med 17.2
3 West_Asian 16.79
4 Atlantic 14.74
5 Red_Sea 8.56
6 North_Sea 4.4
7 Baltic 3.79
8 Eastern_Euro 1.73
9 Sub-Saharan 1.33
10 Northeast_African 1.28
11 Oceanian 0.32

SUM = 55.22

MESSINA AVERAGE = 53.24



Crete 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.53
2 West_Asian 16.88
3 West_Med 15.32
4 Atlantic 11.64
5 North_Sea 8.51
6 Baltic 7.35
7 Eastern_Euro 5.54
8 Red_Sea 4.33
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.42

SUM = 50.74

Crete 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.88
2 West_Asian 18.24
3 West_Med 17.38
4 Atlantic 10.98
5 North_Sea 9.49
6 Baltic 7.9
7 Red_Sea 4.73
8 Oceanian 0.84
9 Sub-Saharan 0.4
10 Amerindian 0.11
11 South_Asian 0.06

SUM = 52.85

Crete 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.48
2 West_Med 17.4
3 West_Asian 16.1
4 Atlantic 14.2
5 Baltic 10.19
6 North_Sea 6.16
7 Eastern_Euro 4.54
8 Red_Sea 2.8
9 Northeast_African 0.13

SUM = 47.38

Crete 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.96
2 West_Med 17.97
3 West_Asian 17.82
4 North_Sea 9.65
5 Atlantic 7.25
6 Baltic 4.76
7 Eastern_Euro 4.3
8 Red_Sea 3.7
9 Siberian 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 Northeast_African 0.36

SUM = 54.48

Crete 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.55
2 West_Asian 17.55
3 West_Med 14.3
4 Atlantic 12
5 Red_Sea 8.54
6 Baltic 6.61
7 North_Sea 5.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.48
9 Northeast_African 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.38

SUM = 58.64

CRETE AVERAGE = 52.81


Catania 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.06
2 West_Med 19.29
3 West_Asian 17.6
4 Atlantic 13.58
5 North_Sea 5.52
6 Baltic 5.23
7 Red_Sea 3.88
8 Northeast_African 1.03
9 Southeast_Asian 0.85
10 Amerindian 0.5
11 Eastern_Euro 0.46

SUM = 53.54

Catania 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.83
2 West_Med 19.37
3 Atlantic 17.1
4 West_Asian 12.53
5 North_Sea 9.25
6 Red_Sea 6.74
7 Eastern_Euro 2.14
8 Sub-Saharan 1.45
9 Northeast_African 0.44
10 Baltic 0.1
11 Oceanian 0.07

SUM = 50.10

Catania 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.54
2 West_Med 17.62
3 Atlantic 15.9
4 West_Asian 14.55
5 Red_Sea 6.35
6 North_Sea 4.49
7 Eastern_Euro 4.45
8 Baltic 3.01
9 Northeast_African 1.32
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54
11 South_Asian 0.13
12 Oceanian 0.1

SUM = 52.44

Catania 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.39
2 West_Med 18.41
3 Atlantic 17.64
4 West_Asian 16.85
5 Red_Sea 6.5
6 Baltic 5.3
7 North_Sea 2.25
8 Northeast_African 1.83
9 Oceanian 0.83

SUM = 53.74

Catania 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.62
2 West_Med 19.49
3 Atlantic 18.03
4 West_Asian 17.53
5 Red_Sea 4.86
6 North_Sea 3.58
7 Baltic 2.52
8 Northeast_African 1.53
9 Eastern_Euro 1.38
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
11 Sub-Saharan 0.56
12 Amerindian 0.25

SUM = 52.01

CATANIA AVERAGE: 52.37

Palermo 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.68
2 West_Med 18.37
3 North_Sea 14.83
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 Red_Sea 7.37
6 Atlantic 7.21
7 Eastern_Euro 2.56
8 Baltic 2.51
9 Sub-Saharan 1.54
10 Amerindian 0.9
11 Oceanian 0.25

SUM = 51.84

Palermo 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.52
2 West_Asian 19.03
3 West_Med 14.38
4 North_Sea 13.32
5 Atlantic 12.19
6 Baltic 5.46
7 Red_Sea 4.92
8 Northeast_African 1.36
9 Sub-Saharan 1.18
10 Oceanian 0.64

SUM = 51.47

Palermo 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.21
2 West_Med 20.42
3 West_Asian 14.36
4 North_Sea 10.2
5 Atlantic 10.12
6 Red_Sea 6.64
7 Eastern_Euro 2.18
8 Sub-Saharan 2.16
9 Baltic 1.76
10 South_Asian 1.28
11 Northeast_African 0.67

SUM = 51.21

Palermo 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29
2 West_Med 19.35
3 West_Asian 14.74
4 North_Sea 13.04
5 Atlantic 10.79
6 Red_Sea 7.52
7 Baltic 2.97
8 Northeast_African 1.89
9 Sub-Saharan 0.59
10 Oceanian 0.12

SUM = 51.26

Palermo 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.08
2 West_Med 17.11
3 West_Asian 14.11
4 Atlantic 13.41
5 North_Sea 11.12
6 Red_Sea 7.27
7 Baltic 2.83
8 Northeast_African 1.33
9 Eastern_Euro 0.95
10 Sub-Saharan 0.73
11 Oceanian 0.59
12 Southeast_Asian 0.3
13 Siberian 0.18


SUM = 51.46

PALERMO AVERAGE: 51.44



North Aegean 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.22
2 West_Asian 14.71
3 West_Med 12.35
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 Baltic 10.58
6 North_Sea 9.44
7 Eastern_Euro 7.98
8 Red_Sea 6.3
9 Oceanian 0.71
10 South_Asian 0.37
11 Amerindian 0.19

SUM = 47.23

North Aegean 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.06
2 West_Asian 18.34
3 West_Med 15.99
4 Atlantic 13.3
5 North_Sea 8.01
6 Baltic 7.04
7 Red_Sea 4.16
8 Eastern_Euro 2.08
9 Siberian 0.02

SUM = 53.56

North Aegean 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.12
2 West_Asian 19.48
3 West_Med 13.94
4 Atlantic 12.92
5 North_Sea 9.2
6 Baltic 8.44
7 Red_Sea 4.47
8 Eastern_Euro 2.83
9 Siberian 0.34
10 Sub-Saharan 0.24
11 Amerindian 0.01

SUM = 52.07

North Aegean 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.63
2 West_Asian 17.23
3 West_Med 12.25
4 Atlantic 11.91
5 North_Sea 9.1
6 Red_Sea 6.13
7 Baltic 4.83
8 Eastern_Euro 2.91
9 Amerindian 1.01
10 Oceanian 0.41
11 South_Asian 0.31
12 Northeast_African 0.28

SUM = 56.99

North Aegean 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.52
2 West_Med 18.34
3 West_Asian 14.03
4 North_Sea 12.39
5 Atlantic 10.77
6 Baltic 6.89
7 Eastern_Euro 5.08
8 Red_Sea 4.65
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 South_Asian 0.41

SUM = 45.20

NORTH AEGEAN AVERAGE = 51.01

Cyclades 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Asian 17.27
3 West_Med 14.52
4 Atlantic 13.02
5 North_Sea 11.51
6 Baltic 9.23
7 Red_Sea 5.09
8 Eastern_Euro 2.17
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Amerindian 0.58
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Southeast_Asian 0.11

SUM = 47.81

Cyclades 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.5
2 West_Med 16.95
3 West_Asian 14.51
4 Atlantic 12.08
5 North_Sea 10.95
6 Baltic 6.54
7 Red_Sea 5.43
8 Siberian 0.82
9 Amerindian 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.75
11 Southeast_Asian 0.69
12 Sub-Saharan 0.04

SUM = 50.44

Cyclades 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.15
2 West_Med 17.43
3 West_Asian 13.98
4 Atlantic 13.06
5 North_Sea 9.61
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Baltic 5.07
8 Eastern_Euro 3.32
9 Northeast_African 0.59
10 Sub-Saharan 0.09
11 Southeast_Asian 0.07

SUM = 50.75

Cyclades 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.98
2 West_Med 18.16
3 West_Asian 16.72
4 Atlantic 8.67
5 North_Sea 8.23
6 Eastern_Euro 5.38
7 Red_Sea 5.28
8 Baltic 3.34
9 South_Asian 0.23

SUM = 55.98

Cyclades 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.64
2 West_Med 15.78
3 West_Asian 15.76
4 North_Sea 11.34
5 Atlantic 10.84
6 Eastern_Euro 6.31
7 Baltic 5.88
8 Red_Sea 5.3
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 Sub-Saharan 0.23

SUM = 48.7

CYCLADES AVERAGE: 50.73


Agrigento 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.84
2 West_Med 18.92
3 West_Asian 15.03
4 Atlantic 12.23
5 North_Sea 8.88
6 Red_Sea 6.04
7 Baltic 4.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.66
9 Sub-Saharan 1.23
10 Siberian 0.98
11 Oceanian 0.13
12 South_Asian 0.08
13 Northeast_African 0.04

SUM = 50.91

Agrigento 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.52
2 West_Med 19.4
3 Atlantic 12.33
4 West_Asian 12.11
5 North_Sea 11.09
6 Baltic 5.34
7 Red_Sea 4.52
8 Sub-Saharan 1.18
9 Eastern_Euro 0.82
10 Amerindian 0.77
11 Oceanian 0.57
12 Southeast_Asian 0.2
13 Northeast_African 0.15

SUM = 48.15

Agrigento 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.19
2 West_Med 15.97
3 North_Sea 15.77
4 West_Asian 13.71
5 Atlantic 12.46
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Northeast_African 1.39
8 Sub-Saharan 1.07
9 Amerindian 1.02
10 Eastern_Euro 0.88
11 Baltic 0.77
12 Siberian 0.16

SUM = 50.52


Agrigento 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.13
2 West_Med 16.55
3 West_Asian 14.07
4 Atlantic 11.8
5 North_Sea 9.68
6 Red_Sea 6.69
7 Eastern_Euro 3.75
8 Baltic 3.06
9 Northeast_African 1.76
10 Sub-Saharan 1.49
11 Oceanian 0.03

SUM = 51.89

Agrigento 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.69
2 West_Med 18.92
3 West_Asian 12.15
4 Atlantic 12.07
5 North_Sea 9.78
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 Eastern_Euro 3.57
8 Baltic 2.73
9 South_Asian 1.93
10 Sub-Saharan 1.54
11 Oceanian 0.78
12 Siberian 0.25

SUM = 48.42

AGRIGENTO AVERAGE = 49.97


Caltanissetta 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.07
2 West_Med 18.08
3 West_Asian 14.92
4 Atlantic 13.54
5 North_Sea 11.05
6 Red_Sea 7.64
7 Baltic 4.3
8 Northeast_African 2.82
9 Siberian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.22
11 Southeast_Asian 0.11

SUM = 49.63

Caltanissetta 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.5
2 West_Med 18.75
3 West_Asian 15.33
4 Atlantic 14.59
5 North_Sea 10.86
6 Red_Sea 6.75
7 Baltic 3.21
8 Eastern_Euro 2.26
9 Northeast_African 1.12
10 Amerindian 0.62

SUM = 48.58


Caltanissetta 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.5
2 Atlantic 19.07
3 West_Med 17.07
4 West_Asian 13.72
5 North_Sea 6.38
6 Baltic 5.95
7 Red_Sea 5.8
8 Northeast_African 2.49
9 Eastern_Euro 0.88
10 South_Asian 0.14

SUM = 48.02

Caltanissetta 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.34
2 West_Med 14.83
3 Atlantic 14.36
4 West_Asian 13.63
5 Baltic 6.39
6 North_Sea 5.71
7 Red_Sea 5.17
8 Eastern_Euro 4.07
9 Northeast_African 0.74
10 Southeast_Asian 0.65
11 Sub-Saharan 0.61
12 Oceanian 0.46
13 Amerindian 0.04

SUM = 52.14

Caltanissetta 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.37
2 West_Med 22.71
3 West_Asian 15.34
4 Atlantic 11.67
5 North_Sea 7.95
6 Red_Sea 5.48
7 Baltic 4.34
8 Northeast_African 1.62
9 Southeast_Asian 0.34
10 Eastern_Euro 0.19

SUM = 51.19

CALTANISSETTA AVERAGE: 49.91

Ragusa 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.75
2 West_Med 16.59
3 West_Asian 13.69
4 Atlantic 13.42
5 North_Sea 12.68
6 Baltic 6.27
7 Red_Sea 5.42
8 Eastern_Euro 2.32
9 Sub-Saharan 1.04
10 Oceanian 0.71
11 Siberian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.42
13 Amerindian 0.18

SUM = 45.86

Ragusa 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.11
2 West_Med 20.51
3 North_Sea 13.01
4 West_Asian 12.93
5 Atlantic 7.25
6 Red_Sea 6.34
7 Baltic 3.15
8 Sub-Saharan 2.74
9 Eastern_Euro 2.47
10 Northeast_African 1.32
11 Siberian 0.43
12 Oceanian 0.32
13 South_Asian 0.16
14 Southeast_Asian 0.16
15 Amerindian 0.09

SUM = 48.38

Ragusa 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.71
2 West_Med 15.96
3 North_Sea 15.87
4 Atlantic 15.13
5 West_Asian 12.77
6 Red_Sea 6.24
7 Baltic 3.45
8 Eastern_Euro 1.94
9 South_Asian 1.09
10 Sub-Saharan 0.78
11 Siberian 0.49
12 Northeast_African 0.45
13 Southeast_Asian 0.08
14 Amerindian 0.04

SUM = 44.72

Ragusa 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.83
2 West_Med 15.6
3 West_Asian 15.47
4 Atlantic 14.44
5 Red_Sea 8.48
6 North_Sea 6.5
7 Baltic 5.16
8 Eastern_Euro 4.71
9 Northeast_African 1.8

SUM = 51.78

Ragusa 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.43
2 West_Med 20.66
3 West_Asian 12.84
4 Atlantic 12.07
5 North_Sea 10.98
6 Baltic 4.9
7 Red_Sea 4.54
8 Eastern_Euro 2.67
9 Northeast_African 1.66
10 Sub-Saharan 1.55
11 Siberian 0.7

SUM = 44.81

RAGUSA AVERAGE = 47.11

Trapani 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.08
2 West_Med 19.75
3 Atlantic 18.08
4 North_Sea 9.83
5 West_Asian 8.57
6 Red_Sea 5.76
7 Eastern_Euro 4.09
8 Baltic 1.99
9 Northeast_African 1.41
10 Sub-Saharan 0.44

SUM = 44.41

Trapani 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.65
2 West_Med 17.59
3 Atlantic 15.87
4 West_Asian 11.13
5 North_Sea 10.88
6 Baltic 6.53
7 Red_Sea 5.04
8 Northeast_African 1.62
9 South_Asian 0.48
10 Southeast_Asian 0.2

SUM = 46.82

Trapani 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.33
2 West_Med 19.32
3 West_Asian 14.35
4 Atlantic 13.57
5 North_Sea 11.27
6 Red_Sea 5.87
7 Baltic 5.36
8 Eastern_Euro 2.42
9 Sub-Saharan 0.8
10 Northeast_African 0.63
11 Oceanian 0.04
12 South_Asian 0.03
13 Southeast_Asian 0.01

SUM = 46.55

Trapani 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.85
2 Atlantic 18.69
3 West_Med 16.74
4 West_Asian 12.27
5 North_Sea 8.08
6 Red_Sea 5.65
7 Baltic 5.51
8 Sub-Saharan 0.95
9 South_Asian 0.75
10 Northeast_African 0.38
11 Eastern_Euro 0.14

SUM = 48.77

Trapani 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.08
2 West_Med 17.63
3 Atlantic 16.47
4 West_Asian 12.62
5 North_Sea 11.12
6 Red_Sea 5.54
7 Baltic 4.48
8 Eastern_Euro 1.91
9 Northeast_African 1.87
10 Sub-Saharan 0.97
11 Southeast_Asian 0.31

SUM = 45.24

TRAPANI AVERAGE = 46.35

Syracuse 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.06
2 West_Med 21.13
3 Atlantic 15.06
4 West_Asian 12.74
5 North_Sea 8.57
6 Baltic 5.67
7 Red_Sea 4.37
8 Eastern_Euro 3.93
9 South_Asian 1.14
10 Oceanian 0.72
11 Northeast_African 0.45
12 Southeast_Asian 0.16

SUM = 43.17

Syracuse 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.21
2 West_Med 18.61
3 Atlantic 16.36
4 North_Sea 12.21
5 West_Asian 11.6
6 Red_Sea 4.46
7 Baltic 3.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.73
9 Northeast_African 1.38
10 Southeast_Asian 1.15
11 Siberian 0.23
12 Oceanian 0.08
13 Amerindian 0.04

SUM = 44.27

Syracuse 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.21
2 West_Med 19.22
3 West_Asian 16.32
4 Atlantic 10.4
5 North_Sea 9.36
6 Baltic 7.83
7 Red_Sea 4.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.17
9 Northeast_African 1.25
10 Southeast_Asian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.07

SUM = 48.56

Syracuse 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.48
2 West_Med 17.24
3 Atlantic 15.12
4 West_Asian 15.03
5 North_Sea 11.29
6 Red_Sea 5.23
7 Baltic 5.07
8 Eastern_Euro 1.24
9 Sub-Saharan 0.86
10 Oceanian 0.57
11 Northeast_African 0.49
12 Southeast_Asian 0.38

SUM = 47.74

Syracuse 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.68
2 West_Med 17.78
3 Atlantic 17.25
4 West_Asian 15.27
5 North_Sea 12.82
6 Red_Sea 5.12
7 Baltic 3.47
8 Sub-Saharan 1.73
9 Eastern_Euro 1.66
10 Northeast_African 0.23

SUM = 45.07

SYRACUSE AVERAGE = 45.76


Peloponnese 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.39
2 Atlantic 18.57
3 West_Med 16.66
4 West_Asian 15.93
5 Baltic 12.63
6 Eastern_Euro 7.64
7 North_Sea 3.62
8 Red_Sea 1.84
9 Oceanian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.24

SUM = 40.16

Peloponnese 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.14
2 Atlantic 18.55
3 West_Med 13.37
4 West_Asian 13.08
5 North_Sea 10.75
6 Baltic 9.54
7 Red_Sea 6.32
8 Eastern_Euro 5.83
9 Southeast_Asian 1.16
10 Oceanian 0.26

SUM = 40.54

Peloponnese 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.29
2 North_Sea 16.78
3 West_Med 16.53
4 West_Asian 12.74
5 Atlantic 11.81
6 Baltic 7.97
7 Eastern_Euro 4.08
8 Red_Sea 3.85
9 Oceanian 0.64
10 Siberian 0.57
11 South_Asian 0.47
12 Northeast_African 0.28

SUM = 40.88

Peloponnese 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Med 18.81
3 West_Asian 16.01
4 North_Sea 13.81
5 Atlantic 8.95
6 Baltic 8.25
7 Red_Sea 4.13
8 Eastern_Euro 3.16
9 Southeast_Asian 1.13
10 Oceanian 0.26
11 South_Asian 0.02

SUM = 45.59

Peloponnesian 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.27
2 West_Med 17.32
3 West_Asian 14.97
4 North_Sea 12.24
5 Baltic 12.18
6 Atlantic 9.25
7 Eastern_Euro 3.34
8 Red_Sea 1.51
9 Amerindian 1.08
10 Southeast_Asian 0.46
11 Oceanian 0.19
12 South_Asian 0.17

SUM = 43.75

PELOPONNESE AVERAGE: 42.18


North Greece (Epirus):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.56
2 West_Med 18.99
3 Baltic 14.65
4 Atlantic 13.79
5 West_Asian 12.71
6 North_Sea 8.45
7 Eastern_Euro 5.63
8 Red_Sea 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 0.87
10 Northeast_African 0.04

SUM = 37.58

North Greece (Macedonia):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.44
2 North_Sea 16.63
3 West_Med 14.17
4 West_Asian 13.15
5 Atlantic 12.68
6 Baltic 11.8
7 Eastern_Euro 7.83
8 Red_Sea 1.46
9 Siberian 0.73
10 Southeast_Asian 0.1

SUM = 36.05

North Greece (Macedonia):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.05
2 North_Sea 18.78
3 West_Med 16.26
4 Baltic 12.86
5 Atlantic 10.91
6 West_Asian 10.61
7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
8 Red_Sea 2.48
9 Siberian 0.43
10 Amerindian 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.01

SUM = 34.14

North Greece (Macedonia):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 18.54
2 Atlantic 16.78
3 West_Med 16.47
4 West_Asian 14.25
5 Baltic 12.46
6 North_Sea 10.95
7 Eastern_Euro 4.72
8 Red_Sea 4.51
9 Northeast_African 1.31

SUM = 37.3

North Greece (Thessaly):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.09
2 Atlantic 18.36
3 West_Med 14.22
4 North_Sea 12.1
5 Baltic 12.04
6 West_Asian 10.97
7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
8 Red_Sea 3.89
9 Amerindian 0.44
10 Siberian 0.31
11 Oceanian 0.28
12 Southeast_Asian 0.02

SUM = 35.95

NORTH GREECE AVERAGE = 36.20

[Sikeliot]

Calabria is nearly 20% more East Med/West Asian than is Northern Greece. Crete or Palermo are 15% more.

[Coolguy1]

Some Syracusans/Ragusans have northeastern euro levels that approach some Lakonian samples I have.

[kleenex]

Interesting results. The thing that I find intriguing is the higher Atlantic in Peloponnesians and Syracusans (and other Sicilians) compared to NW Greeks/Macedonians. Do you know where Peloponnesian 2 is from?

[pmv74]

What’s the Mena levels on western sicilians? I would assume it’s slightly higher maybe over 50%


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[Sikeliot]

What’s the Mena levels on western sicilians? I would assume it’s slightly higher maybe over 50%


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Around 50% except Trapani. Palermo being slightly above the other provinces.

[Sikeliot]

Interesting results. The thing that I find intriguing is the higher Atlantic in Peloponnesians and Syracusans (and other Sicilians) compared to NW Greeks/Macedonians. Do you know where Peloponnesian 2 is from?


This is because they are more "western" while northern Greeks have more Baltic type elements.

[Sikeliot]

Some Syracusans/Ragusans have northeastern euro levels that approach some Lakonian samples I have.

They are close to them overall but slightly more exotic. What I think is that Syracuse has no MENA except for the prehistoric elements, while the rest of Sicily has historical input.

[kleenex]

This is because they are more "western" while northern Greeks have more Baltic type elements.

Thus more Atlanto/Alpine/ Med types in the Peloponnese than in Northern Greece? Hoping I'm not derailing your post.

[Sikeliot]

Thus more Atlanto/Alpine/ Med types in the Peloponnese than in Northern Greece? Hoping I'm not derailing your post.

I do believe Peloponnesians look more western, yes.

What ends up happening is both Peloponnesians and SE Sicily/Apulia have more Baltic admixture than southern Italians overall, but more western admixture than northern Greece.

As you can see, Sicily can really be divided into three: Messina, Palermo, Catania, Agrigento and Caltanisssetta with more MENA, then Ragusa/Syracuse with more Greek-like admixture and then Trapani is on its own.

[Alessio]

the average based on my Neapolitan matches is also around or a little below 50%, like Caltanisetta and the Cyclades.

[pmv74]

Mine was 51.04 which probably puts me in line with the people of Palermo


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[Bobby Martnen]

Do you have similar data for Ashkenazi Jews?

[Sikeliot]

Mine was 51.04 which probably puts me in line with the people of Palermo


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Of the 2 full Ennese I have one of them gets 45.6, the other 50.22 and then a half Ennese half Calabrese gets 50.21 (these two are VERY close interestingly). So it appears they vary.

[Sikeliot]

Do you have similar data for Ashkenazi Jews?

I can check tomorrow.

[catgeorge]

Pretty amazing results considering Greek Macedonia 30% of population have refugee lineage from Anatolia + Pontus.

Even more amazing considering many Greek Macedonians settled in "Free Greece" specifically Nafplio and Athens circa 1821.

In other words bogus bogus.

[RajGuru]

Even in kashmirl we have high frequency of west asian Genes so i am not surprised that regions that borders MENA also have high % MENA blood. (Majority as according to your research)

[pmv74]

Of the 2 full Ennese I have one of them gets 45.6, the other 50.22 and then a half Ennese half Calabrese gets 50.21 (these two are VERY close interestingly). So it appears they vary.

Yes there is a variance with different people from southern Italy and Sicily but my guess is anyone that scores over 50 is probably on the higher end for sure


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[Sikeliot]

Pretty amazing results considering Greek Macedonia 30% of population have refugee lineage from Anatolia + Pontus.

Even more amazing considering many Greek Macedonians settled in "Free Greece" specifically Nafplio and Athens circa 1821.

In other words bogus bogus.

I have Anatolian greeks but I wouldn't ever label them natives. Above are native northerners.

[Sikeliot]

It is interesting because although some people try to say Peloponnesians belong grouped in with Sicilians, Calabrese, and Aegean islanders, genetically they certainly are not close to any of these as a whole, even though they are not as northern as northern Greece.

[kleenex]

It is interesting because although some people try to say Peloponnesians belong grouped in with Sicilians, Calabrese, and Aegean islanders, genetically they certainly are not close to any of these as a whole, even though they are not as northern as northern Greece.
No not as Northern but it appears a bit more Western shifted. What Italian group or groups do you find Peloponnesians closest to?

[Hithaeglir]

What about Campania?

[Petalpusher]

Even with a few samples the rather ME or NA shift is also noticeable. Apart from a few exceptions, Greece score none or little EA and SSA, which is in line with the general trend seen in IBD.

[Lavrentis]

You should have included the Ionian islands instead of northern Greece imo. That is, if you find results from there. Campania should be interesting too.

[kleenex]

What about Campania?

Interesting or maybe Umbria or Lazio possibly as comparison populations.

[DarknessWin]

East Med in calculations are Pontid ,
Only West Asia is MENA

[Leto]

Is South Italy confined to Sicily and Calabria? :confused:

[Sikeliot]

Is South Italy confined to Sicily and Calabria? :confused:

I do not have enough other regions to make a reliable comparison but Alessio said his Campanian samples average 50% or so, similar to Cyclades, North Aegean, and Agrigento/Caltanissetta.

[Sikeliot]

What Italian group or groups do you find Peloponnesians closest to?

Apulia and SE Sicily, the regions with the most Peloponnesian ancestry in fact.

[Tauromachos]

I do believe Peloponnesians look more western, yes.

What ends up happening is both Peloponnesians and SE Sicily/Apulia have more Baltic admixture than southern Italians overall, but more western admixture than northern Greece.

As you can see, Sicily can really be divided into three: Messina, Palermo, Catania, Agrigento and Caltanisssetta with more MENA, then Ragusa/Syracuse with more Greek-like admixture and then Trapani is on its own.

What looks interesting to me here that according to these results Crete scores more Mena average than some regions in Inland and Western Sicily
Would also be interesting if you have corresponding results for Apulia.

Also interesting would be a comparism between Northern Greece and Northern Italy?

[Sikeliot]

What looks interesting to me here that according to these results Crete scores more Mena average than some regions in Inland and Western Sicily

It depends on the individual but in general all of the Aegean islands, most of Sicily, and Calabria are so close that any variance could be due to the specific individuals selected. The Palermitans are more consistent, the Cretans have some above and some below 50.

[Tauromachos]

It depends on the individual but in general all of the Aegean islands, most of Sicily, and Calabria are so close that any variance could be due to the specific individuals selected. The Palermitans are more consistent, the Cretans have some above and some below 50.

Ok but average for Crete is higher than Palermo which surprises because i expected Palermo to be more.
But what you say makes sense the thing with Crete is that there are both people with more Mena than Sicily and people with less.

What surprises me more is that Messina has significantly higher average than Palermo

[Sikeliot]

Ok but average for Crete is higher than Palermo which surprises because i expected Palermo to be more.
But what you say makes sense the thing with Crete is that there are both people with more Mena than Sicily and people with less.

What surprises me more is that Messina has significantly higher average than Palermo

The Crete and Palermo samples are so close it is not worth differentiating them. I do not count differences of 1% as anything worth noting when there is a 20% gap between Calabria and northern Greece.

Again it is just the sample selection. I have only 5 Cretans and I chose only people related to me for the Palermo sample.

[Tauromachos]

The Crete and Palermo samples are so close it is not worth differentiating them. I do not count differences of 1% as anything worth noting when there is a 20% gap between Calabria and northern Greece.

Again it is just the sample selection. I have only 5 Cretans and I chose only people related to me for the Palermo sample.

Allright:thumb001:

[Leto]

Interesting or maybe Umbria or Lazio possibly as comparison populations.
How many people of Southern Italian extraction are there in the North?

[Sikeliot]

Allright:thumb001:


I mean do you really think 1% is worth noting? I don't, because the difference between the NE SIcily/Palermo/Cretans/Calabrese cluster and mainland Greeks is enormous.

Crete and Palermo are overall very close.

Other Cretans:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.82
2 West_Med 16.12
3 West_Asian 13.69
4 Atlantic 9.82
5 North_Sea 9.82
6 Baltic 9.51
7 Eastern_Euro 4.95
8 Red_Sea 4.3
9 Oceanian 0.76
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
11 Northeast_African 0.55
12 Siberian 0.04

SUM = 47.81


Other Palermitans:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.15
2 West_Med 16.65
3 West_Asian 12.43
4 Atlantic 10.82
5 North_Sea 9.61
6 Red_Sea 8.55
7 Baltic 5.02
8 Eastern_Euro 2.33
9 South_Asian 2.08
10 Sub-Saharan 1.36

SUM = 52.13


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.65
2 West_Med 17.07
3 West_Asian 15.02
4 Atlantic 13.96
5 North_Sea 12.02
6 Red_Sea 5.86
7 Baltic 1.43
8 Eastern_Euro 1.23
9 Sub-Saharan 1.2
10 Northeast_African 1.12
11 Amerindian 0.44

SUM = 51.53


#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.57
2 Atlantic 17.63
3 West_Med 16.99
4 West_Asian 13.9
5 North_Sea 6.47
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Baltic 5.6
8 Northeast_African 1.5
9 Southeast_Asian 0.58
10 South_Asian 0.44
11 Oceanian 0.43
12 Eastern_Euro 0.26

SUM = 50.09



Ionian islanders:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.92
2 West_Med 16.88
3 West_Asian 15.58
4 North_Sea 11.97
5 Atlantic 10.35
6 Baltic 9.13
7 Eastern_Euro 5.11
8 Red_Sea 4.42
9 Southeast_Asian 0.36
10 Oceanian 0.2
11 Northeast_African 0.08

SUM = 45.92

#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.24
2 West_Med 18.14
3 Atlantic 17.58
4 West_Asian 16.4
5 Baltic 6.03
6 Red_Sea 5.8
7 North_Sea 4.87
8 Eastern_Euro 3.66
9 Oceanian 0.83
10 Northeast_African 0.44

SUM = 48.44

#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.74
2 West_Med 16
3 Atlantic 15.62
4 West_Asian 10.53
5 Baltic 10
6 Red_Sea 7.01
7 North_Sea 6.88
8 Eastern_Euro 6.22
9 South_Asian 0.98

SUM = 44.28


Apulia:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.32
2 West_Med 17.81
3 Atlantic 13.01
4 North_Sea 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Baltic 8.29
7 Red_Sea 7.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.6
9 Northeast_African 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.03
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Siberian 0.01

SUM = 44.19

Lazio:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.18
2 West_Med 17.5
3 Atlantic 17.02
4 West_Asian 14
5 North_Sea 8.13
6 Baltic 5.2
7 Red_Sea 3.22
8 Eastern_Euro 2.56
9 Oceanian 0.2

SUM = 49.4


Marche:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.38
2 West_Med 19.42
3 Atlantic 18.65
4 West_Asian 14.14
5 North_Sea 12.93
6 Red_Sea 5.21
7 Baltic 5.06
8 Eastern_Euro 1.94
9 Northeast_African 0.27

SUM = 41.73

[Böri]

Actually the only genetic commanilities between some South Euros and Levantines are mostly from neolithic immigration from Levant to S. Europe. And not the other way around. Btw there is nothing wrong about it however people like the bonobo Ourobros don't like it.

[JMack]

Actually the only genetic commanilities between some South Euros and Levantines are mostly from neolithic immigration from Levant to S. Europe. And not the other way around. Btw there is nothing wrong about it however people like the bonobo Ourobros don't like it.

You love me, right shitskin? Go back to Mongolia where you belong. But I bet the chinks there will not recognize you anymore since now you look like a mix between Pakis and Chinks.

[Böri]

You love me, right shitskin? Go back to Mongolia where you belong. But I bet the chinks there will not recognize you anymore since now you look like a mix between Pakis and Chinks.

I descend straight from the people Pope Urban II referred to in his famous Clermont speech in 1095, launching the Crusades. :) You can hardly find any more noble than me. Stop being jaleous you niggah. I don't look Paki or Chinese nor a mix of them, I am the epitome of Turkoman and genetically closest to original type ;)

Drink some cold waters and face the reality that you have few level N. African, Levantine and SSA genes. And don't forget, there is nothing wrong about it :thumb001:

[JMack]

I descend straight from the people Pope Urban II referred to in his famous Clermont speech in 1095, launching the Crusades. :) You can hardly find any more noble than me. Stop being jaleous you niggah. I don't look Paki or Chinese nor a mix of them, I am the epitome of Turkoman and closest to original type ;)

Drink some cold waters and face the reality that you have few level N. African, Levantine and SSA genes. And don't forget, there is nothing wrong about it :thumb001:

You descend right back from brown beings, only. You're as noble as a portion of feces.

First image that appears when you google 'Turkoman':

http://image.sciencesource.com/preview/1F7317-Turkomans-Afghanistan.jpg

What a noble look.

[Sikeliot]

Stop derailing my thread. Message one another if you have an issue. Thanks.

[Böri]

You descend right back from brown beings, only. You're as noble as a portion of feces.

First image that appears when you google 'Turkoman':

What a noble look.

Those from Afghanistan sometimes are born from slave South central Asian and Persian concubines with sometimes some Hazara moms mixed in. They aren't pure form however their y-dna is probably well preserved tho and ofc it's noble lineage, that's recognized as this historically by almost all nations. I already shared quotes from even Crusaders sources.

Niggah I have bad news for you. It'll hurt your OWD and spice up your self-hate.
You have likely SSA genes too.

Based on Dodecad spreadsheet K12b samples.

https://i.hizliresim.com/1GGR0G.jpg

:)

[JMack]

Niggah I have bad news for you. It'll hurt your OWD and spice up your self-hate.
You have likely SSA genes too.

Based on Dodecad spreadsheet K12b samples.

https://i.hizliresim.com/1GGR0G.jpg

:)

HAHAHAHAH

Less than 1% is significant? lol

Shut up you mixed race mutt. Turks are an owned people who descend right back from Anatolians who were conquered by brown chinks.

Stop derailing the thread.

[Sikeliot]

HAHAHAHAH

Less than 1% is significant? lol

Shut up you mixed race mutt. Turks are an owned people who descend right back from Anatolians who were conquered by brown chinks.

Stop derailing the thread.



Stop answering him then.

[kleenex]

I mean do you really think 1% is worth noting? I don't, because the difference between the NE SIcily/Palermo/Cretans/Calabrese cluster and mainland Greeks is enormous.

Crete and Palermo are overall very close.

Other Cretans:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.82
2 West_Med 16.12
3 West_Asian 13.69
4 Atlantic 9.82
5 North_Sea 9.82
6 Baltic 9.51
7 Eastern_Euro 4.95
8 Red_Sea 4.3
9 Oceanian 0.76
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
11 Northeast_African 0.55
12 Siberian 0.04

SUM = 47.81


Other Palermitans:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.15
2 West_Med 16.65
3 West_Asian 12.43
4 Atlantic 10.82
5 North_Sea 9.61
6 Red_Sea 8.55
7 Baltic 5.02
8 Eastern_Euro 2.33
9 South_Asian 2.08
10 Sub-Saharan 1.36

SUM = 52.13


#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.65
2 West_Med 17.07
3 West_Asian 15.02
4 Atlantic 13.96
5 North_Sea 12.02
6 Red_Sea 5.86
7 Baltic 1.43
8 Eastern_Euro 1.23
9 Sub-Saharan 1.2
10 Northeast_African 1.12
11 Amerindian 0.44

SUM = 51.53


#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.57
2 Atlantic 17.63
3 West_Med 16.99
4 West_Asian 13.9
5 North_Sea 6.47
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Baltic 5.6
8 Northeast_African 1.5
9 Southeast_Asian 0.58
10 South_Asian 0.44
11 Oceanian 0.43
12 Eastern_Euro 0.26

SUM = 50.09



Ionian islanders:

#1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.92
2 West_Med 16.88
3 West_Asian 15.58
4 North_Sea 11.97
5 Atlantic 10.35
6 Baltic 9.13
7 Eastern_Euro 5.11
8 Red_Sea 4.42
9 Southeast_Asian 0.36
10 Oceanian 0.2
11 Northeast_African 0.08

SUM = 45.92

#2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.24
2 West_Med 18.14
3 Atlantic 17.58
4 West_Asian 16.4
5 Baltic 6.03
6 Red_Sea 5.8
7 North_Sea 4.87
8 Eastern_Euro 3.66
9 Oceanian 0.83
10 Northeast_African 0.44

SUM = 48.44

#3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.74
2 West_Med 16
3 Atlantic 15.62
4 West_Asian 10.53
5 Baltic 10
6 Red_Sea 7.01
7 North_Sea 6.88
8 Eastern_Euro 6.22
9 South_Asian 0.98

SUM = 44.28


Apulia:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.32
2 West_Med 17.81
3 Atlantic 13.01
4 North_Sea 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 Baltic 8.29
7 Red_Sea 7.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.6
9 Northeast_African 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.03
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Siberian 0.01

SUM = 44.19

Lazio:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.18
2 West_Med 17.5
3 Atlantic 17.02
4 West_Asian 14
5 North_Sea 8.13
6 Baltic 5.2
7 Red_Sea 3.22
8 Eastern_Euro 2.56
9 Oceanian 0.2

SUM = 49.4


Marche:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.38
2 West_Med 19.42
3 Atlantic 18.65
4 West_Asian 14.14
5 North_Sea 12.93
6 Red_Sea 5.21
7 Baltic 5.06
8 Eastern_Euro 1.94
9 Northeast_African 0.27

SUM = 41.73

Thanks for these. I have similar results to Marche sample with the exception of a few varying components. Marche may be a decent Proxy for average Peloponnesian.

[Sikeliot]

Thanks for these. I have similar results to Marche sample with the exception of a few varying components. Marche may be a decent Proxy for average Peloponnesian.

The only true surprise I have seen thus far is NE Sicily being more like Palermo and not like SE Sicily. SE Sicily breaks away from the norm for the island and lacks the extra MENA influence.

This makes me think one of two things is true. You can tell me which you think is more likely, I am interested to know:

A. All of Sicily was once like Messina or Palermo with higher MENA, but SE Sicily ended up pulled northward by their Doric Greek input, making them more like Peloponnesians, or
B. SE Sicily better preserves the original Italic and Greek input on the island, and the rest of Sicily received later MENA inputs shifting them south and east.

In A, SE Sicilians are the least native to the island, in B they are the most.

[Smitty]

The only true surprise I have seen thus far is NE Sicily being more like Palermo and not like SE Sicily. SE Sicily breaks away from the norm for the island and lacks the extra MENA influence.

This makes me think one of two things is true. You can tell me which you think is more likely, I am interested to know:

A. All of Sicily was once like Messina or Palermo with higher MENA, but SE Sicily ended up pulled northward by their Doric Greek input, making them more like Peloponnesians, or
B. SE Sicily better preserves the original Italic and Greek input on the island, and the rest of Sicily received later MENA inputs shifting them south and east.

In A, SE Sicilians are the least native to the island, in B they are the most.

B seems unlikely when "unpolluted" Calabria scores as much of these components as Sicily. So does Campania, if Alessio's results count for anything.

[kleenex]

The only true surprise I have seen thus far is NE Sicily being more like Palermo and not like SE Sicily. SE Sicily breaks away from the norm for the island and lacks the extra MENA influence.

This makes me think one of two things is true. You can tell me which you think is more likely, I am interested to know:

A. All of Sicily was once like Messina or Palermo with higher MENA, but SE Sicily ended up pulled northward by their Doric Greek input, making them more like Peloponnesians, or
B. SE Sicily better preserves the original Italic and Greek input on the island, and the rest of Sicily received later MENA inputs shifting them south and east.

In A, SE Sicilians are the least native to the island, in B they are the most.

I lean towards B. A guess a parallel would be the Tsakononians of Arcadia escaping the Slavic incursions vs. Beotians (Arachova) absorbing them.

[Percivalle]

Interesting or maybe Umbria or Lazio possibly as comparison populations.

Lazio (ancestry verified with genealogic tree, 100% from Lazio)

1)

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.73
2 West_Med 19.7
3 Atlantic 18.67
4 North_Sea 13.82
5 West_Asian 11.31
6 Baltic 7.56
7 Red_Sea 5.46
8 Eastern_Euro 1.75


2)

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.92
2 Atlantic 21.01
3 West_Med 15.95
4 North_Sea 15.87
5 West_Asian 10.79
6 Baltic 6.58
7 Red_Sea 4.84
8 Eastern_Euro 2.79
9 Oceanian 0.19


Thanks for these. I have similar results to Marche sample with the exception of a few varying components. Marche may be a decent Proxy for average Peloponnesian.

Marche (ancestry verified with genealogic tree, 100% from Marche)


1)


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 23.14
2 North_Sea 19.38
3 East_Med 18.03
4 Atlantic 16.51
5 West_Asian 11.64
6 Baltic 5.39
7 Red_Sea 3.58
8 Eastern_Euro 2.06
9 Oceanian 0.28


2)

Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.13
2 North_Sea 20.36
3 West_Med 19.83
4 Atlantic 14.65
5 Red_Sea 7.2
6 Baltic 6.48
7 West_Asian 6.2
8 Amerindian 0.89
9 South_Asian 0.65
10 Eastern_Euro 0.35
11 Oceanian 0.25

[kleenex]

Lazio (ancestry verified with genealogic tree, 100% from Lazio)

1)

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.73
2 West_Med 19.7
3 Atlantic 18.67
4 North_Sea 13.82
5 West_Asian 11.31
6 Baltic 7.56
7 Red_Sea 5.46
8 Eastern_Euro 1.75


2)

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.92
2 Atlantic 21.01
3 West_Med 15.95
4 North_Sea 15.87
5 West_Asian 10.79
6 Baltic 6.58
7 Red_Sea 4.84
8 Eastern_Euro 2.79
9 Oceanian 0.19



Marche (ancestry verified with genealogic tree, 100% from Marche)


1)


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 23.14
2 North_Sea 19.38
3 East_Med 18.03
4 Atlantic 16.51
5 West_Asian 11.64
6 Baltic 5.39
7 Red_Sea 3.58
8 Eastern_Euro 2.06
9 Oceanian 0.28


2)

Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.13
2 North_Sea 20.36
3 West_Med 19.83
4 Atlantic 14.65
5 Red_Sea 7.2
6 Baltic 6.48
7 West_Asian 6.2
8 Amerindian 0.89
9 South_Asian 0.65
10 Eastern_Euro 0.35
11 Oceanian 0.25

Thanks. The Western elements are similar. I have a slightly higher Baltic score (11.49) but that's to be expected. The thing that's intriguing is my Atlantic score is 19.69 which is on par with this group.

[Percivalle]

Thanks. The Western elements are similar. I have a slightly higher Baltic score (11.49) but that's to be expected. The thing that's intriguing is my Atlantic score is 19.69 which is on par with this group.

Lower Baltic is balanced by higher North Sea, usually.

[Sikeliot]

I lean towards B. A guess a parallel would be the Tsakononians of Arcadia escaping the Slavic incursions vs. Beotians (Arachova) absorbing them.

So you would tend to believe that southern Italy was once more Peloponnesian-like (like how modern Apulians are) and that the regions with more exotic admixture acquired it later, which is why you have some Calabrese and Sicilians close to Cypriots or North African Jews.


B seems unlikely when "unpolluted" Calabria scores as much of these components as Sicily. So does Campania, if Alessio's results count for anything.

But Calabria may have absorbed a lot of MENA admixture because a lot of their ancestry is from converted Jews, as well as some Sicilian Muslims being expelled there. Apulia is much less genetically altered. The only difference is Calabria did not have Normans or Lombards.

[Smitty]

So you would tend to believe that southern Italy was once more Peloponnesian-like (like how modern Apulians are) and that the regions with more exotic admixture acquired it later, which is why you have some Calabrese and Sicilians close to Cypriots or North African Jews.



But Calabria may have absorbed a lot of MENA admixture because a lot of their ancestry is from converted Jews, as well as some Sicilian Muslims being expelled there. Apulia is much less genetically altered. The only difference is Calabria did not have Normans or Lombards.

There were Jewish converts and a very few Moslem exiles, but not enough to have such an impact, if any at all. And the same thing would have had to happen all over Southern Italy if we're to believe that is the source of these components. I won't argue that it could account for some, but it can't be much. Like I said, if Alessio's post is any indication, there would also have to have been a huge number of conversos and Moslems in Campania, too. And if there weren't, why would we suppose Calabria and Sicily have changed when they score little, if any, more than Campania?

[Sikeliot]

There were Jewish converts and a very few Moslem exiles, but not enough to have such an impact, if any at all. And the same thing would have had to happen all over Southern Italy if we're to believe that is the source of these components. I won't argue that it could account for some, but it can't be much. Like I said, if Alessio's post is any indication, there would also have to have been a huge number of conversos and Moslems in Campania, too. And if there weren't, why would we suppose Calabria and Sicily have changed when they score little, if any, more than Campania?

The question is why, then, southwest Italy and Sicily scores more MENA while Apulia, Abruzzo, Lucania, and even southeast Sicily less.

Are you suggesting southeastern Italy has less because of Greek and Illyrian input diluting an otherwise more heavily Near Eastern base?

[Smitty]

The question is why, then, southwest Italy and Sicily scores more MENA while Apulia, Abruzzo, Lucania, and even southeast Sicily less.

Are you suggesting southeastern Italy has less because of Greek and Illyrian input diluting an otherwise more heavily Near Eastern base?

I'm not really suggesting anything - only pointing out the flaws in this particular theory. Maybe more of the Near Eastern migrants went to the Southwest. Maybe the rest of South Italy received more migration from areas in Europe, including Greece. I don't know. Any theorizing is pure speculation.

[Sikeliot]

I'm not really suggesting anything - only pointing out the flaws in this particular theory. Maybe more of the Near Eastern migrants went to the Southwest. Maybe the rest of South Italy received more migration from areas in Europe, including Greece. I don't know. Any theorizing is pure speculation.

I am asking you what your thoughts are. Why are there some regions that have more and others less?

[Smitty]

I am asking you what your thoughts are. Why are there some regions that have more and others less?

My guess would be one of the two possibilities I just mentioned. Whenever this migration out of the Near East occurred (they seem to think the Bronze Age?), either the Southwest received more of it initially or it received less Greek and other European migration later on. Or maybe you're right. I just find it hard to believe that Jews and exiles could have changed mainland South Italy to such an extent. And if they didn't, that would suggest they didn't change Sicily much either.

[Sikeliot]

My guess would be one of the two possibilities I just mentioned. Whenever this migration out of the Near East occurred (they seem to think the Bronze Age?), either the Southwest received more of it initially or it received less Greek and other European migration later on. Or maybe you're right. I just find it hard to believe that Jews and exiles could have changed mainland South Italy to such an extent. And if they didn't, that would suggest they didn't change Sicily much either.

Well we have seen Mycenaean results. They are like someone who is 2/3 Sicilian and 1/3 Sardinian. So if we are to believe southern Italy did not get recent MENA input, then we have to believe the natives there had more Natufian/Levantine type DNA than Mycenaeans did.

[Smitty]

Well we have seen Mycenaean results. They are like someone who is 2/3 Sicilian and 1/3 Sardinian. So if we are to believe southern Italy did not get recent MENA input, then we have to believe the natives there had more Natufian/Levantine type DNA than Mycenaeans did.

That would fit with a Bronze Age migration, which would have occurred before the arrival of the Greeks. Or maybe they were always that way. "Native" is relative.

[Sikeliot]

That would fit with a Bronze Age migration, which would have occurred before the arrival of the Greeks. Or maybe they were always that way. "Native" is relative.

So you think the Bronze Age had a migration from the Levant to southern Italy, and it got diluted by Greek input in places like Apulia.

[Smitty]

So you think the Bronze Age had a migration from the Levant to southern Italy, and it got diluted by Greek input in places like Apulia.

Or Apulia never received as much as the Southwest. And I wouldn't say this is my position. I just think it's a possibility. I really don't have an opinion.

[Sikeliot]

Or Apulia never received as much as the Southwest. And I wouldn't say this is my position. I just think it's a possibility. I really don't have an opinion.

It is just too big of a coincidence to me that the two places with the most Doric Greek input -- SE Sicily and Apulia -- have the least Near Eastern and the most Indo-European.

[Smitty]

It is just too big of a coincidence to me that the two places with the most Doric Greek input -- SE Sicily and Apulia -- have the least Near Eastern and the most Indo-European.

That may well explain it.

[Kenshiro]

I am going to do 5 random people from each region if possible and ranked them in terms of the most to least combined "East Med" + "West Asian" + "Red Sea".

The regions are in order from most to least MENA affinity based on the sample of 5 for each.

This is the ranking:

Calabria/Dodecanese
Messina/Catania/Crete/Palermo
North Aegean/Cyclades/Agrigento/Caltanissetta
Ragusa/Trapani
Syracuse
Peloponnese
North Greece


Calabria 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.83
2 West_Med 17.24
3 West_Asian 15.26
4 Atlantic 9.09
5 Red_Sea 8.06
6 Baltic 6.7
7 North_Sea 3.26
8 Northeast_African 2.97
9 Eastern_Euro 2.59

SUM = 58.15

Calabria 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.78
2 Atlantic 15.33
3 West_Med 15.19
4 West_Asian 15.1
5 Baltic 7.49
6 Red_Sea 6.86
7 North_Sea 5.09
8 Southeast_Asian 0.89
9 Northeast_African 0.25
10 Eastern_Euro 0.01

SUM = 55.74

Calabria 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.98
2 Atlantic 18.09
3 West_Med 17.38
4 West_Asian 16.97
5 Red_Sea 7.35
6 Baltic 3.45
7 North_Sea 2.17
8 Northeast_African 1.11
9 Amerindian 0.97
10 Eastern_Euro 0.71
11 South_Asian 0.32
12 Oceanian 0.27
13 Sub-Saharan 0.15
14 Siberian 0.08

SUM = 55.3

Calabria 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.34
2 West_Med 18.42
3 West_Asian 11.08
4 Atlantic 10.91
5 North_Sea 8.61
6 Red_Sea 7.76
7 Eastern_Euro 3.74
8 Baltic 2.29
9 Northeast_African 1.73
10 Oceanian 0.12

SUM = 54.18

Calabria 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.35
2 West_Med 19.34
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 13.22
5 Red_Sea 10.9
6 North_Sea 4.61
7 Baltic 3.18
8 Eastern_Euro 1.54
9 Northeast_African 0.73
10 Oceanian 0.43

SUM = 56.94

CALABRIA AVERAGE: 56.06


Dodecanese 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.38
2 West_Asian 18.29
3 West_Med 17.94
4 North_Sea 9.68
5 Baltic 6.67
6 Atlantic 5.67
7 Red_Sea 3.86
8 Eastern_Euro 2.93
9 South_Asian 0.32
10 Southeast_Asian 0.26

SUM = 56.53

Dodecanese 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.18
2 West_Asian 21.21
3 West_Med 15.11
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 North_Sea 7.28
6 Eastern_Euro 6.24
7 Red_Sea 5.32
8 Baltic 1.45
9 Southeast_Asian 0.82
10 Amerindian 0.22
11 Siberian 0.02

SUM = 57.71

Dodecanese 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.05
2 West_Asian 16.6
3 West_Med 15.66
4 Atlantic 12.56
5 North_Sea 12.52
6 Baltic 7.61
7 Red_Sea 4.96
8 South_Asian 0.95
9 Eastern_Euro 0.68
10 Siberian 0.41

SUM = 49.61

Dodecanese 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.44
2 West_Asian 19.62
3 West_Med 17.01
4 North_Sea 10.31
5 Atlantic 5.95
6 Red_Sea 5.58
7 Baltic 5.34
8 Eastern_Euro 4.25
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 Northeast_African 0.76
11 Siberian 0.35
12 Southeast_Asian 0.28
13 Amerindian 0.23
14 Sub-Saharan 0.09

SUM = 54.64

Dodecanese 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.08
2 West_Asian 20.95
3 West_Med 15.1
4 North_Sea 7.78
5 Atlantic 7.26
6 Red_Sea 6.27
7 Eastern_Euro 5.72
8 Baltic 3.02
9 Siberian 0.57
10 Northeast_African 0.25

SUM = 60.3

DODECANESE AVERAGE = 55.76



Messina 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.45
2 West_Med 21
3 West_Asian 15.04
4 Atlantic 11.26
5 North_Sea 10.8
6 Red_Sea 6.02
7 Baltic 3.87
8 Northeast_African 1.98
9 Siberian 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Sub-Saharan 0.01

SUM = 50.51

Messina 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.06
2 West_Med 18.3
3 West_Asian 15.64
4 Atlantic 11.93
5 Red_Sea 6.85
6 Baltic 6.17
7 North_Sea 3.8
8 Northeast_African 1.52
9 Eastern_Euro 1.51
10 Southeast_Asian 1.13
11 Oceanian 0.1

SUM = 55.55

Messina 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.84
2 Atlantic 19
3 West_Asian 17.14
4 West_Med 15.76
5 Red_Sea 6.64
6 Baltic 5.11
7 North_Sea 2.29
8 Northeast_African 2.14
9 Sub-Saharan 0.46
10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
11 Eastern_Euro 0.3

SUM = 54.62

Messina 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.43
2 West_Med 19.45
3 West_Asian 14.89
4 Atlantic 10.96
5 North_Sea 7.97
6 Red_Sea 6.98
7 Eastern_Euro 4.99
8 Baltic 4.34
9 Northeast_African 1.99

SUM = 50.3

Messina 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.87
2 West_Med 17.2
3 West_Asian 16.79
4 Atlantic 14.74
5 Red_Sea 8.56
6 North_Sea 4.4
7 Baltic 3.79
8 Eastern_Euro 1.73
9 Sub-Saharan 1.33
10 Northeast_African 1.28
11 Oceanian 0.32

SUM = 55.22

MESSINA AVERAGE = 53.24



Crete 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.53
2 West_Asian 16.88
3 West_Med 15.32
4 Atlantic 11.64
5 North_Sea 8.51
6 Baltic 7.35
7 Eastern_Euro 5.54
8 Red_Sea 4.33
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.42

SUM = 50.74

Crete 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.88
2 West_Asian 18.24
3 West_Med 17.38
4 Atlantic 10.98
5 North_Sea 9.49
6 Baltic 7.9
7 Red_Sea 4.73
8 Oceanian 0.84
9 Sub-Saharan 0.4
10 Amerindian 0.11
11 South_Asian 0.06

SUM = 52.85

Crete 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.48
2 West_Med 17.4
3 West_Asian 16.1
4 Atlantic 14.2
5 Baltic 10.19
6 North_Sea 6.16
7 Eastern_Euro 4.54
8 Red_Sea 2.8
9 Northeast_African 0.13

SUM = 47.38

Crete 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.96
2 West_Med 17.97
3 West_Asian 17.82
4 North_Sea 9.65
5 Atlantic 7.25
6 Baltic 4.76
7 Eastern_Euro 4.3
8 Red_Sea 3.7
9 Siberian 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 Northeast_African 0.36

SUM = 54.48

Crete 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.55
2 West_Asian 17.55
3 West_Med 14.3
4 Atlantic 12
5 Red_Sea 8.54
6 Baltic 6.61
7 North_Sea 5.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.48
9 Northeast_African 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.38

SUM = 58.64

CRETE AVERAGE = 52.81


Catania 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.06
2 West_Med 19.29
3 West_Asian 17.6
4 Atlantic 13.58
5 North_Sea 5.52
6 Baltic 5.23
7 Red_Sea 3.88
8 Northeast_African 1.03
9 Southeast_Asian 0.85
10 Amerindian 0.5
11 Eastern_Euro 0.46

SUM = 53.54

Catania 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.83
2 West_Med 19.37
3 Atlantic 17.1
4 West_Asian 12.53
5 North_Sea 9.25
6 Red_Sea 6.74
7 Eastern_Euro 2.14
8 Sub-Saharan 1.45
9 Northeast_African 0.44
10 Baltic 0.1
11 Oceanian 0.07

SUM = 50.10

Catania 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.54
2 West_Med 17.62
3 Atlantic 15.9
4 West_Asian 14.55
5 Red_Sea 6.35
6 North_Sea 4.49
7 Eastern_Euro 4.45
8 Baltic 3.01
9 Northeast_African 1.32
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54
11 South_Asian 0.13
12 Oceanian 0.1

SUM = 52.44

Catania 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.39
2 West_Med 18.41
3 Atlantic 17.64
4 West_Asian 16.85
5 Red_Sea 6.5
6 Baltic 5.3
7 North_Sea 2.25
8 Northeast_African 1.83
9 Oceanian 0.83

SUM = 53.74

Catania 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.62
2 West_Med 19.49
3 Atlantic 18.03
4 West_Asian 17.53
5 Red_Sea 4.86
6 North_Sea 3.58
7 Baltic 2.52
8 Northeast_African 1.53
9 Eastern_Euro 1.38
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
11 Sub-Saharan 0.56
12 Amerindian 0.25

SUM = 52.01

CATANIA AVERAGE: 52.37

Palermo 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.68
2 West_Med 18.37
3 North_Sea 14.83
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 Red_Sea 7.37
6 Atlantic 7.21
7 Eastern_Euro 2.56
8 Baltic 2.51
9 Sub-Saharan 1.54
10 Amerindian 0.9
11 Oceanian 0.25

SUM = 51.84

Palermo 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.52
2 West_Asian 19.03
3 West_Med 14.38
4 North_Sea 13.32
5 Atlantic 12.19
6 Baltic 5.46
7 Red_Sea 4.92
8 Northeast_African 1.36
9 Sub-Saharan 1.18
10 Oceanian 0.64

SUM = 51.47

Palermo 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.21
2 West_Med 20.42
3 West_Asian 14.36
4 North_Sea 10.2
5 Atlantic 10.12
6 Red_Sea 6.64
7 Eastern_Euro 2.18
8 Sub-Saharan 2.16
9 Baltic 1.76
10 South_Asian 1.28
11 Northeast_African 0.67

SUM = 51.21

Palermo 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29
2 West_Med 19.35
3 West_Asian 14.74
4 North_Sea 13.04
5 Atlantic 10.79
6 Red_Sea 7.52
7 Baltic 2.97
8 Northeast_African 1.89
9 Sub-Saharan 0.59
10 Oceanian 0.12

SUM = 51.26

Palermo 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.08
2 West_Med 17.11
3 West_Asian 14.11
4 Atlantic 13.41
5 North_Sea 11.12
6 Red_Sea 7.27
7 Baltic 2.83
8 Northeast_African 1.33
9 Eastern_Euro 0.95
10 Sub-Saharan 0.73
11 Oceanian 0.59
12 Southeast_Asian 0.3
13 Siberian 0.18


SUM = 51.46

PALERMO AVERAGE: 51.44



North Aegean 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.22
2 West_Asian 14.71
3 West_Med 12.35
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 Baltic 10.58
6 North_Sea 9.44
7 Eastern_Euro 7.98
8 Red_Sea 6.3
9 Oceanian 0.71
10 South_Asian 0.37
11 Amerindian 0.19

SUM = 47.23

North Aegean 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.06
2 West_Asian 18.34
3 West_Med 15.99
4 Atlantic 13.3
5 North_Sea 8.01
6 Baltic 7.04
7 Red_Sea 4.16
8 Eastern_Euro 2.08
9 Siberian 0.02

SUM = 53.56

North Aegean 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.12
2 West_Asian 19.48
3 West_Med 13.94
4 Atlantic 12.92
5 North_Sea 9.2
6 Baltic 8.44
7 Red_Sea 4.47
8 Eastern_Euro 2.83
9 Siberian 0.34
10 Sub-Saharan 0.24
11 Amerindian 0.01

SUM = 52.07

North Aegean 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.63
2 West_Asian 17.23
3 West_Med 12.25
4 Atlantic 11.91
5 North_Sea 9.1
6 Red_Sea 6.13
7 Baltic 4.83
8 Eastern_Euro 2.91
9 Amerindian 1.01
10 Oceanian 0.41
11 South_Asian 0.31
12 Northeast_African 0.28

SUM = 56.99

North Aegean 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.52
2 West_Med 18.34
3 West_Asian 14.03
4 North_Sea 12.39
5 Atlantic 10.77
6 Baltic 6.89
7 Eastern_Euro 5.08
8 Red_Sea 4.65
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 South_Asian 0.41

SUM = 45.20

NORTH AEGEAN AVERAGE = 51.01

Cyclades 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Asian 17.27
3 West_Med 14.52
4 Atlantic 13.02
5 North_Sea 11.51
6 Baltic 9.23
7 Red_Sea 5.09
8 Eastern_Euro 2.17
9 Northeast_African 0.67
10 Amerindian 0.58
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Southeast_Asian 0.11

SUM = 47.81

Cyclades 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.5
2 West_Med 16.95
3 West_Asian 14.51
4 Atlantic 12.08
5 North_Sea 10.95
6 Baltic 6.54
7 Red_Sea 5.43
8 Siberian 0.82
9 Amerindian 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.75
11 Southeast_Asian 0.69
12 Sub-Saharan 0.04

SUM = 50.44

Cyclades 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.15
2 West_Med 17.43
3 West_Asian 13.98
4 Atlantic 13.06
5 North_Sea 9.61
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Baltic 5.07
8 Eastern_Euro 3.32
9 Northeast_African 0.59
10 Sub-Saharan 0.09
11 Southeast_Asian 0.07

SUM = 50.75

Cyclades 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.98
2 West_Med 18.16
3 West_Asian 16.72
4 Atlantic 8.67
5 North_Sea 8.23
6 Eastern_Euro 5.38
7 Red_Sea 5.28
8 Baltic 3.34
9 South_Asian 0.23

SUM = 55.98

Cyclades 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.64
2 West_Med 15.78
3 West_Asian 15.76
4 North_Sea 11.34
5 Atlantic 10.84
6 Eastern_Euro 6.31
7 Baltic 5.88
8 Red_Sea 5.3
9 Northeast_African 0.91
10 Sub-Saharan 0.23

SUM = 48.7

CYCLADES AVERAGE: 50.73


Agrigento 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.84
2 West_Med 18.92
3 West_Asian 15.03
4 Atlantic 12.23
5 North_Sea 8.88
6 Red_Sea 6.04
7 Baltic 4.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.66
9 Sub-Saharan 1.23
10 Siberian 0.98
11 Oceanian 0.13
12 South_Asian 0.08
13 Northeast_African 0.04

SUM = 50.91

Agrigento 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.52
2 West_Med 19.4
3 Atlantic 12.33
4 West_Asian 12.11
5 North_Sea 11.09
6 Baltic 5.34
7 Red_Sea 4.52
8 Sub-Saharan 1.18
9 Eastern_Euro 0.82
10 Amerindian 0.77
11 Oceanian 0.57
12 Southeast_Asian 0.2
13 Northeast_African 0.15

SUM = 48.15

Agrigento 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.19
2 West_Med 15.97
3 North_Sea 15.77
4 West_Asian 13.71
5 Atlantic 12.46
6 Red_Sea 5.62
7 Northeast_African 1.39
8 Sub-Saharan 1.07
9 Amerindian 1.02
10 Eastern_Euro 0.88
11 Baltic 0.77
12 Siberian 0.16

SUM = 50.52


Agrigento 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.13
2 West_Med 16.55
3 West_Asian 14.07
4 Atlantic 11.8
5 North_Sea 9.68
6 Red_Sea 6.69
7 Eastern_Euro 3.75
8 Baltic 3.06
9 Northeast_African 1.76
10 Sub-Saharan 1.49
11 Oceanian 0.03

SUM = 51.89

Agrigento 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.69
2 West_Med 18.92
3 West_Asian 12.15
4 Atlantic 12.07
5 North_Sea 9.78
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 Eastern_Euro 3.57
8 Baltic 2.73
9 South_Asian 1.93
10 Sub-Saharan 1.54
11 Oceanian 0.78
12 Siberian 0.25

SUM = 48.42

AGRIGENTO AVERAGE = 49.97


Caltanissetta 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.07
2 West_Med 18.08
3 West_Asian 14.92
4 Atlantic 13.54
5 North_Sea 11.05
6 Red_Sea 7.64
7 Baltic 4.3
8 Northeast_African 2.82
9 Siberian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.22
11 Southeast_Asian 0.11

SUM = 49.63

Caltanissetta 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.5
2 West_Med 18.75
3 West_Asian 15.33
4 Atlantic 14.59
5 North_Sea 10.86
6 Red_Sea 6.75
7 Baltic 3.21
8 Eastern_Euro 2.26
9 Northeast_African 1.12
10 Amerindian 0.62

SUM = 48.58


Caltanissetta 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.5
2 Atlantic 19.07
3 West_Med 17.07
4 West_Asian 13.72
5 North_Sea 6.38
6 Baltic 5.95
7 Red_Sea 5.8
8 Northeast_African 2.49
9 Eastern_Euro 0.88
10 South_Asian 0.14

SUM = 48.02

Caltanissetta 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.34
2 West_Med 14.83
3 Atlantic 14.36
4 West_Asian 13.63
5 Baltic 6.39
6 North_Sea 5.71
7 Red_Sea 5.17
8 Eastern_Euro 4.07
9 Northeast_African 0.74
10 Southeast_Asian 0.65
11 Sub-Saharan 0.61
12 Oceanian 0.46
13 Amerindian 0.04

SUM = 52.14

Caltanissetta 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.37
2 West_Med 22.71
3 West_Asian 15.34
4 Atlantic 11.67
5 North_Sea 7.95
6 Red_Sea 5.48
7 Baltic 4.34
8 Northeast_African 1.62
9 Southeast_Asian 0.34
10 Eastern_Euro 0.19

SUM = 51.19

CALTANISSETTA AVERAGE: 49.91

Ragusa 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.75
2 West_Med 16.59
3 West_Asian 13.69
4 Atlantic 13.42
5 North_Sea 12.68
6 Baltic 6.27
7 Red_Sea 5.42
8 Eastern_Euro 2.32
9 Sub-Saharan 1.04
10 Oceanian 0.71
11 Siberian 0.5
12 Northeast_African 0.42
13 Amerindian 0.18

SUM = 45.86

Ragusa 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.11
2 West_Med 20.51
3 North_Sea 13.01
4 West_Asian 12.93
5 Atlantic 7.25
6 Red_Sea 6.34
7 Baltic 3.15
8 Sub-Saharan 2.74
9 Eastern_Euro 2.47
10 Northeast_African 1.32
11 Siberian 0.43
12 Oceanian 0.32
13 South_Asian 0.16
14 Southeast_Asian 0.16
15 Amerindian 0.09

SUM = 48.38

Ragusa 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.71
2 West_Med 15.96
3 North_Sea 15.87
4 Atlantic 15.13
5 West_Asian 12.77
6 Red_Sea 6.24
7 Baltic 3.45
8 Eastern_Euro 1.94
9 South_Asian 1.09
10 Sub-Saharan 0.78
11 Siberian 0.49
12 Northeast_African 0.45
13 Southeast_Asian 0.08
14 Amerindian 0.04

SUM = 44.72

Ragusa 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.83
2 West_Med 15.6
3 West_Asian 15.47
4 Atlantic 14.44
5 Red_Sea 8.48
6 North_Sea 6.5
7 Baltic 5.16
8 Eastern_Euro 4.71
9 Northeast_African 1.8

SUM = 51.78

Ragusa 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.43
2 West_Med 20.66
3 West_Asian 12.84
4 Atlantic 12.07
5 North_Sea 10.98
6 Baltic 4.9
7 Red_Sea 4.54
8 Eastern_Euro 2.67
9 Northeast_African 1.66
10 Sub-Saharan 1.55
11 Siberian 0.7

SUM = 44.81

RAGUSA AVERAGE = 47.11

Trapani 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.08
2 West_Med 19.75
3 Atlantic 18.08
4 North_Sea 9.83
5 West_Asian 8.57
6 Red_Sea 5.76
7 Eastern_Euro 4.09
8 Baltic 1.99
9 Northeast_African 1.41
10 Sub-Saharan 0.44

SUM = 44.41

Trapani 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.65
2 West_Med 17.59
3 Atlantic 15.87
4 West_Asian 11.13
5 North_Sea 10.88
6 Baltic 6.53
7 Red_Sea 5.04
8 Northeast_African 1.62
9 South_Asian 0.48
10 Southeast_Asian 0.2

SUM = 46.82

Trapani 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.33
2 West_Med 19.32
3 West_Asian 14.35
4 Atlantic 13.57
5 North_Sea 11.27
6 Red_Sea 5.87
7 Baltic 5.36
8 Eastern_Euro 2.42
9 Sub-Saharan 0.8
10 Northeast_African 0.63
11 Oceanian 0.04
12 South_Asian 0.03
13 Southeast_Asian 0.01

SUM = 46.55

Trapani 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.85
2 Atlantic 18.69
3 West_Med 16.74
4 West_Asian 12.27
5 North_Sea 8.08
6 Red_Sea 5.65
7 Baltic 5.51
8 Sub-Saharan 0.95
9 South_Asian 0.75
10 Northeast_African 0.38
11 Eastern_Euro 0.14

SUM = 48.77

Trapani 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.08
2 West_Med 17.63
3 Atlantic 16.47
4 West_Asian 12.62
5 North_Sea 11.12
6 Red_Sea 5.54
7 Baltic 4.48
8 Eastern_Euro 1.91
9 Northeast_African 1.87
10 Sub-Saharan 0.97
11 Southeast_Asian 0.31

SUM = 45.24

TRAPANI AVERAGE = 46.35

Syracuse 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.06
2 West_Med 21.13
3 Atlantic 15.06
4 West_Asian 12.74
5 North_Sea 8.57
6 Baltic 5.67
7 Red_Sea 4.37
8 Eastern_Euro 3.93
9 South_Asian 1.14
10 Oceanian 0.72
11 Northeast_African 0.45
12 Southeast_Asian 0.16

SUM = 43.17

Syracuse 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.21
2 West_Med 18.61
3 Atlantic 16.36
4 North_Sea 12.21
5 West_Asian 11.6
6 Red_Sea 4.46
7 Baltic 3.95
8 Eastern_Euro 1.73
9 Northeast_African 1.38
10 Southeast_Asian 1.15
11 Siberian 0.23
12 Oceanian 0.08
13 Amerindian 0.04

SUM = 44.27

Syracuse 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.21
2 West_Med 19.22
3 West_Asian 16.32
4 Atlantic 10.4
5 North_Sea 9.36
6 Baltic 7.83
7 Red_Sea 4.03
8 Eastern_Euro 3.17
9 Northeast_African 1.25
10 Southeast_Asian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.07

SUM = 48.56

Syracuse 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.48
2 West_Med 17.24
3 Atlantic 15.12
4 West_Asian 15.03
5 North_Sea 11.29
6 Red_Sea 5.23
7 Baltic 5.07
8 Eastern_Euro 1.24
9 Sub-Saharan 0.86
10 Oceanian 0.57
11 Northeast_African 0.49
12 Southeast_Asian 0.38

SUM = 47.74

Syracuse 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.68
2 West_Med 17.78
3 Atlantic 17.25
4 West_Asian 15.27
5 North_Sea 12.82
6 Red_Sea 5.12
7 Baltic 3.47
8 Sub-Saharan 1.73
9 Eastern_Euro 1.66
10 Northeast_African 0.23

SUM = 45.07

SYRACUSE AVERAGE = 45.76


Peloponnese 1:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.39
2 Atlantic 18.57
3 West_Med 16.66
4 West_Asian 15.93
5 Baltic 12.63
6 Eastern_Euro 7.64
7 North_Sea 3.62
8 Red_Sea 1.84
9 Oceanian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.24

SUM = 40.16

Peloponnese 2:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.14
2 Atlantic 18.55
3 West_Med 13.37
4 West_Asian 13.08
5 North_Sea 10.75
6 Baltic 9.54
7 Red_Sea 6.32
8 Eastern_Euro 5.83
9 Southeast_Asian 1.16
10 Oceanian 0.26

SUM = 40.54

Peloponnese 3:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.29
2 North_Sea 16.78
3 West_Med 16.53
4 West_Asian 12.74
5 Atlantic 11.81
6 Baltic 7.97
7 Eastern_Euro 4.08
8 Red_Sea 3.85
9 Oceanian 0.64
10 Siberian 0.57
11 South_Asian 0.47
12 Northeast_African 0.28

SUM = 40.88

Peloponnese 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.45
2 West_Med 18.81
3 West_Asian 16.01
4 North_Sea 13.81
5 Atlantic 8.95
6 Baltic 8.25
7 Red_Sea 4.13
8 Eastern_Euro 3.16
9 Southeast_Asian 1.13
10 Oceanian 0.26
11 South_Asian 0.02

SUM = 45.59

Peloponnesian 5:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.27
2 West_Med 17.32
3 West_Asian 14.97
4 North_Sea 12.24
5 Baltic 12.18
6 Atlantic 9.25
7 Eastern_Euro 3.34
8 Red_Sea 1.51
9 Amerindian 1.08
10 Southeast_Asian 0.46
11 Oceanian 0.19
12 South_Asian 0.17

SUM = 43.75

PELOPONNESE AVERAGE: 42.18


North Greece (Epirus):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.56
2 West_Med 18.99
3 Baltic 14.65
4 Atlantic 13.79
5 West_Asian 12.71
6 North_Sea 8.45
7 Eastern_Euro 5.63
8 Red_Sea 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 0.87
10 Northeast_African 0.04

SUM = 37.58

North Greece (Macedonia):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.44
2 North_Sea 16.63
3 West_Med 14.17
4 West_Asian 13.15
5 Atlantic 12.68
6 Baltic 11.8
7 Eastern_Euro 7.83
8 Red_Sea 1.46
9 Siberian 0.73
10 Southeast_Asian 0.1

SUM = 36.05

North Greece (Macedonia):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.05
2 North_Sea 18.78
3 West_Med 16.26
4 Baltic 12.86
5 Atlantic 10.91
6 West_Asian 10.61
7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
8 Red_Sea 2.48
9 Siberian 0.43
10 Amerindian 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.01

SUM = 34.14

North Greece (Macedonia):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 18.54
2 Atlantic 16.78
3 West_Med 16.47
4 West_Asian 14.25
5 Baltic 12.46
6 North_Sea 10.95
7 Eastern_Euro 4.72
8 Red_Sea 4.51
9 Northeast_African 1.31

SUM = 37.3

North Greece (Thessaly):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.09
2 Atlantic 18.36
3 West_Med 14.22
4 North_Sea 12.1
5 Baltic 12.04
6 West_Asian 10.97
7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
8 Red_Sea 3.89
9 Amerindian 0.44
10 Siberian 0.31
11 Oceanian 0.28
12 Southeast_Asian 0.02

SUM = 35.95

NORTH GREECE AVERAGE = 36.20
East_Med 23.72
West_Asian 16.67
Red_Sea 0.00

SUM = 40.39
From Apulia

[Kenshiro]

the average based on my Neapolitan matches is also around or a little below 50%, like Caltanisetta and the Cyclades.

Mine is 40.39, but i don't have Red Sea, i'm Apulian

[Beowulf]

Mine is 40.39, but i don't have Red Sea, i'm Apulian

37,91 for non european components in K15

[Jingle Bell]

Is east Med a full non-euro component?

[Beowulf]

Is east Med a full non-euro component?

i don't think maybe partly