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10-27-2017, 04:41 PM
Iraq is 'refusing to extradite' German jihadi schoolgirl facing EXECUTION for running away to Mosul and marrying an ISIS fighter
German 16-year-old Linda Wenzel was found hiding in the ruins of Mosul in July
She faces a criminal trial and Iran's PM has warned she could face execution
A German security source today said Iraq is refusing to let her return home
Wenzel has revealed a Jordanian girl groomed her on a jihadist forum
By Charlie Moore For Mailonline
PUBLISHED: 11:30 BST, 27 October 2017 | UPDATED: 11:58 BST, 27 October 2017
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Iraq is refusing to let a 16-year-old German schoolgirl who faces execution for joining ISIS return home, it was reported today.

ISIS bride Linda Wenzel was dragged from Mosul rubble in July as Iraqi forces liberated the city and is now being held in Baghdad where her fate rests in the hands of the country's court system.

German diplomats are pushing for her to be allowed home for a trial but a German security source today said Iraq is refusing.

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Wenzel's friends said she had started learning Arabic and then she suddenly vanished after telling her mother Catherine (pictured) she was going to stay with friends

The source said it was problematic that the two countries have no extradition agreement, reports the Berliner Zeitung.
Last month Iraqi PM Haider al-Abadi said Wenzel might face the death penalty as he explained that the Iraqi judiciary is deciding which charges will be levied against her.
Al-Abadi said: 'You know teenagers under certain laws, they are accountable for their actions especially if the act is a criminal activity when it amounts to killing innocent people.'
The Iraqi PM said that Wenzel was currently still in a Baghdad prison and that it remained to be seen whether prosecutors would demand the death penalty in court.

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Wenzel (pictured in Mosul) reportedly converted to Islam in 2016 after being groomed online by a jihadist

The clear threat of a trial in Baghdad and a potentially lengthy prison sentence or even capital punishment has worried Wenzel's father.
Reiner Wenzel said: 'I want so much that my Linda comes home again healthy. I will always be there for her.'
'I fear for her. The authorities absolutely have to bring her to Germany so that she can get a fair trial.'
He said that he had not had any personal contact with his daughter since she joined ISIS a year ago but added: 'I was, however, told that Linda was not involved in any acts of war.'
Wenzel was reportedly worked for special brigade that whipped women who didn't wear a full-face veil.

If put on trial in Iraq, Wenzel might face the death penalty depending on the charges, while in Germany she might only be convicted of up to 10 years in prison for membership of a terrorist group.
Wenzel reportedly converted to Islam in 2016 after being groomed online by a jihadist.
Her friends told police how she suddenly started taking the Koran to school and wearing longer, more conservative clothing.
They said she had also started learning Arabic and then she suddenly vanished after telling her mother Catherine she was going to stay with friends.
Earlier this month Wenzel revealed a girl Jordanian named Fatema convinced her to convert in 2016 after the pair got chatting on jihadist forums.
Fatema then introduced her to her future husband ISIS fighter Abu Usama al-Shishani.

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Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi (pictured) has warned that the country's judiciary will decide if Wenzel will face the death penalty.

Wenzel told him about arguments with her parents as he promised to marry her if she ran away to join ISIS. He also advised on how to rig travel documents to get to Turkey.
When Wenzel arrived in Turkey, Abu Usama had fled to Syria but the promise of marriage stood firm.
'We got married over the phone', Wenzel told Al-Qatha'a, a newspaper run by Iraq's Supreme Judicial Council.
The 16-year-old also said that her deceased husband never spoke to her about ISIS battles when they lived together in Iraq.
Wenzel said she lived only as a 'housemaid' and did not take part in combat as Iraqi intelligence sources have claimed.
The girl, who left her home in Pulsnitz, eastern Germany last year to join the terror group, is desperate to return to Europe amid fears she could spend years in jail.

Hundreds more non-Iraqi women with ISIS links and suspected of carrying out terrorist attacks are being held at a prison in the Mosul area.
Schoolgirl Linda fled to Turkey then into Syria last year from her hometown of Pulsnitz after being groomed online by a Chechen ISIS fighter who she married.
He was killed in the savage fighting for Mosul while she was employed by the terror group enforcing the strict Islamic dress code on women in the city.
She burst into tears after her capture and said she just wanted to come home -something not likely to happen for some time.

She was filmed by an Iraqi soldier when she was dragged, filthy, dazed and wounded in her arm, from the former terror stronghold of Mosul.
Footage shows the teenager wincing with pain and screaming as she was led away to a makeshift prison while baying soldiers celebrated her capture.
She flew to Istanbul, was smuggled into Iraq, marred a Chechen fighter who was killed and ended up in Mosul where an estimated 25,000 Isis volunteers died in the battle to retake the city.
In the video two men can be seen escorting Wenzel, who seems to wince in pain from a wound. She looks at the ground and cries miserably as she is led away.
According to local reports, she was dubbed the Belle of Mosul by soldiers during what was described as a 'walk of shame' to a make-shift prison.
One soldier can be heard shouting: 'Make room, make room, she is a Christian, she can't take it any more, she is hurting, she is weak, she is a blonde, she is a German.
'Her name is Dania, no Linda. Allah, Allah. Make way guys, let her through.'
Amid chaotic scenes, an older Iraqi army officer arrived to escort her away.
Iraqi security sources previously said she worked with the ISIS 'morals police' responsible for women adhering to strict dress codes.

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Jihadi bride Linda Wenzel, 16, was filmed by an Iraqi soldier when she was dragged, filthy, dazed and wounded, from the former terror stronghold of Mosul

Those who did not obey faced a whipping - or worse. Whether Linda Wenzel was involved in brutalising anyone is also unclear.
Two of her compatriots come from the western city of Mannheim, identified as 50-year-old Lamia K. and her 21-year-old daughter Nadia, both Germans with Moroccan roots.
They attended a radical Salafist mosque in the city before leaving their homeland for the ISIS caliphate.
Both were involved in recruiting women to join ISIS and made several videos online.
In July Linda's father spoke for the first time of his joy at learning his daughter was alive in Iraq while Linda has told reporters she regrets having joined the terror group.
Speaking in her prison cell in Baghdad, Linda said: 'I just want to get away from here. I want to get away from the war, from the many weapons, from the noise.I just want to go home to my family.'

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Linda (pictured, after she was captured) was among 20 ISIS followers seized after Mosul fell following a ten month battle which left 25,000 Jihadists dead. She had a malnourished baby boy with her at the time she was found by Iraqi forces

German broadcasters NDR and WDR and newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung said they had spoken to Wenzel at a military complex in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad where she said she was 'doing well'.
She is said to have suffered a gunshot wound to her left thigh and told reporters she wants to be extradited to Germany where she would cooperate with authorities.
Her construction worker father Reiner, 52, said he was painting lines on a busy autobahn near his home in Dresden when he got the news that his daughter was alive.
'I collapsed when I learned that Linda lives,' he told Germany's BILD newspaper. 'I heard on the radio that they had found her alive in Mosul.
'My colleagues came over to me. I had to leaver and go and sit at a service station where I cried.
'That is my little one,' he said, holding up the photo of a confused and dazed Linda taken by one of the Iraqi troops who rescued her.
'I recognised her from a little scar across one eye that she got as a child from a garden swing. I have never seen my little one look so serious and so sad.'

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Wenzel's construction worker father Reiner (pictured), 52, has spoken of his joy at learning his daughter was alive in Iraq

Living apart from Linda's mother Katharina, 48, he remembers her calling him on the night of July 3 last year asking if he knew where she was.
Linda had told her and her stepfather that she was traveling to spend the weekend with as friend. But she had actually purchased a ticket for Istanbul using her mum'a money and from there was smuggled into Syria.
Reiner went on: 'Later she found a copy for the airline ticked which shows she had booked a return flight for July 3, but she never came back. They would never let her come back.
'On the day she left I had been in Pulsnitz painting road markings. She must have passed me on her way to the airport.
'All the time she was gone I wished that my Linda was safe and that she would return happy and healthy to Germany. I would always be here for her.'
'Please, I need your help': German jihadi bride detained in Syria begs Merkel to let her return home
A German jihadi bride detained in Syria has begged Angela Merkel to let her return home.

Nadja Ramadan, 31, left for Syria in 2014 but now deeply regrets her decision.

She was filmed by German reporters sitting with her son in ISIS territory insisting she 'made a mistake'.

Addressing Merkel, she said: 'Please, I need your help, please help us. I would like to go back to Germany with my two children.

'Please help us to get back to Germany very quickly. I want my children to grow up normally, that my children go to kindergarten, that my children go to school.'

The German reporter who spoke to her, Von Wolfgang Bauer, said he was torn as he felt sorry for her but despised ISIS for killing some of his journalist friends.

When she was gone police opened up a probe into her activities with ISIS, suspecting her of supporting a terror organisation. If the investigation is deactivated she could face a ten year jail term if she returns to Germany.
In theory, Iraqi authorities could sentence her to death for fighting for the militant group, although this is seen as highly unlikely. German authorities are engaged in high level talks with Baghdad to see if she can be brought home to be reunited with her family.
In August, it was revealed that the teenager had a baby with her when she was found in the ruins of Mosul.
The malnourished baby boy she was with was taken to an Army clinic for medical attention before he and Linda were transferred to Baghdad.
It was previously reported that Linda was married to a Chechen ISIS fighter and had 'admitted' to killing Iraqi troops.
An Iraqi special operations forces soldier who met the girl on the night of her arrest said that it was unclear if the child was Linda's, though she is producing breast milk.
'I don't know for sure that it is her baby, but she keeps him with her always,' the soldier told The Times.
The soldier said that the teenager was uncooperative with Iraqi soldiers.
'I don't think she regretted joining ISIS because she looked angry and she refused any help that we provide,' he told The Times, suggesting that Linda was 'brainwashed'.
German prosecutors say that Linda ran away from her family home in Pulsnitz in eastern Germany last summer. It's unclear if she will return to Germany, as she could face trial in Iraq.
Linda is now being held in an Iraqi prison facility, where she will be held during an investigation.

An officer in Iraq's elite counter terrorism unit had previously told The Telegraph that she was a sniper for ISIS.
Speaking anonymously, he said: 'We found her with a gun in her hand next to her Chechen husband, who was then killed by Iraqi forces in a firefight. She said she had killed a number of our men in the battle.'
'She was a Daesh sniper, but maybe her husband pressured her into it. She looked scared.'
The Telegraph said it is thought Linda and the fighter formed a relationship after meeting in a chat room, where he convinced her to join ISIS.
Iraqi MP Vian Dakhil backed up the claims, adding that she was found with explosives and was 'ready to attack the advancing troops.'
An Iraqi soldier told Germany's Bild newspaper that he and his comrades mistook her at first for a sex slave of ISIS terrorists.
Talking under the alias Mohammed Shuraf for protection, the soldier told the newspaper he and his comrades thought at first she was a Yazidi sex slave.
ISIS fighters routinely kidnapped and abused women of the minority sect.
Describing the moment they found her, he said: 'We entered a shattered house, which was previously under fire. There we heard someone screaming for help. It was the girl, she was alone, injured on the left arm and chest, lying on the floor.'
He said her clothes were filthy and around her neck she wore a thick scarf which she could also use as a headscarf.

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Linda (pictured before fleeing to Syria) used the counterfeit bank authorisation and her mother's forged identification papers to buy a plane ticket to Istanbul

She was found alongside members of the terror group's fearsome all-female police force, some of whom were wearing suicide vests.
The teenager, described as 'a brilliant student' is said to have become 'lonely and withdrawn' after her parents' marriage broke down and her mother Katharina began a new relationship with a caretaker at a local school.
She is thought to have met a Muslim man online who enticed her to join ISIS after the breakdown of her parents' marriage.
She fled the country using her mother's passport and flew from Berlin to Turkey before making her way to Syria.
In July, her neighbours in the village of Pulsnitz, near Dreseden, south-east Germany, told of their shock and anger that the promising youngster left home to join the extremist group.
School friends have described the quiet teenager as becoming increasingly withdrawn.
In 2015 she was confirmed into the local church. Female priest Maria Gruener said: 'She was a very placid girl who did not want to take part in confirmation instruction.'
But unbeknownst to her, Linda was falsely adopting the faith of the Christian church while secretly giving her heart to Islam.
As she attended the church, her parents' marriage broke down and she moved with her mother to Pulsnitz.
There, Katharina moved in with Thomas Weiss. Unhappy and insecure, Linda suddenly found herself with a new stepfather - and an older stepsister called Dana.
In May last year the troubled teenager made contact on the internet with an Islamist preacher in Hamburg who sent her a copy of the Koran.
'It seemed to offer her answers in a confused life,' said Christina, 16, a fellow pupil at the town's Ernst-Rierscher-Comprehensive school.
'Last summer, shortly before we broke up, she began leaving home with a small bag in which she had an Islamic headscarf and long flowing robes which she donned to cover up all her skin. There were some arguments with staff.'
She stole her mother's credit card and secretly bought an airline ticket to Istanbul. Until six months before she fled she had never even travelled by train alone, it has been reported.
But on Friday July 1 last year she told her mother and father she was going to spend the weekend with a friend called Caroline and would be back in Sunday.
She never came home - and was never at her friend's.
Instead she travelled to Frankfurt and caught a plane to Istanbul before being smuggled into Syria.
Eventually, she ended up in Mosul where she changed her name to Umm Mariam, and was taken as a 'jihadist bride'.
Behind her she left baffled friends and parents as well as teachers who said she was in course for impressive A level results.
Speaking from the schoolgirl's hometown last July, her mother said she was devastated.

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StonyArabia
10-27-2017, 04:43 PM
Good White terrorists should not be in our lands

wvwvw
10-27-2017, 04:45 PM
Good White terrorists should not be in our lands

I doubt a 16 year old schoolgirl knows much about terrorism..at least I didn't when I was her age.

StonyArabia
10-27-2017, 04:48 PM
I doubt a 16 year old schoolgirl knows much about terrorism..at least I didn't when I was her age.

Teenagers are young adults. If she was 18 everyone would call her what she is a terrorist. However because she is 2 years younger she is not. Believe me there are many teenage terrorists, though most tend to be male. For example if she was not White, no one would care about her fate or be sympathetic.

Kamal900
10-27-2017, 04:49 PM
I doubt a 16 year old schoolgirl knows much about terrorism..at least I didn't when I was her age.

The internet can influence people a lot, and as a teenager, she should take responsibilities for her actions and so on. Terrorists or those who sympathise with terrorism should not be given mercy nor forgiveness.

Seya
10-27-2017, 05:18 PM
In US they arrest criminals as young as 12 years old. At 16 u're fully responsable for your acts

Pahli
10-27-2017, 05:25 PM
Wtf at those eyebrows xD

She deserves her punishment, although we could argue whether she deserves death penalty or a long prison sentence, she made a mistake she has to pay for.

Kamal900
10-27-2017, 05:29 PM
Wtf at those eyebrows xD

She deserves her punishment, although we could argue whether she deserves death penalty or a long prison sentence, she made a mistake she has to pay for.

Let's be honest here. The reason why many White western men here feel sympathy for her is because she's a White, Blonde haired German woman. Had she's been a middle eastern woman then nobody cares for her and so on. Disgusting, I know.

Pahli
10-27-2017, 05:32 PM
Let's be honest here. The reason why many White western men here feel sympathy for her is because she's a White, Blonde haired German woman. Had she's been a middle eastern woman then nobody cares for her and so on. Disgusting, I know.

The only reason why I feel sorry for people is because of their age, but her punishment is not up for me to decide. To avoid similar situation in the future, European authorities should keep a close watch on mosques and islamic clerics since they are one of the key factors behind this, there's has been cases of that in Denmark.

Colonel Frank Grimes
10-27-2017, 05:35 PM
She won't receive the death penalty. She will receive hard prison time. She knew what she was doing. The Iraqi government is in the right. The German government should not waste their time with her.

KMack
10-27-2017, 05:39 PM
Let's be honest here. The reason why many White western men here feel sympathy for her is because she's a White, Blonde haired German woman. Had she's been a middle eastern woman then nobody cares for her and so on. Disgusting, I know.

Could you provide evidence to back that claim?

Incal
10-27-2017, 05:44 PM
May this serve as a lesson to all those stupid kids who think pigs might fly.

StonyArabia
10-27-2017, 08:03 PM
The internet can influence people a lot, and as a teenager, she should take responsibilities for her actions and so on. Terrorists or those who sympathise with terrorism should not be given mercy nor forgiveness.

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Well said, I am more and more respecting Haider Al-Abadi, after 2003, he has been the best Iraqi politician to date

adsız
10-27-2017, 08:22 PM
In US they arrest criminals as young as 12 years old. At 16 u're fully responsable for your acts

16 is on the edge of maturity. could still have childish behaviours. A psychologist would decide if she is capable or disabled in legal meanings.

adsız
10-27-2017, 08:28 PM
The internet can influence people a lot, and as a teenager, she should take responsibilities for her actions and so on. Terrorists or those who sympathise with terrorism should not be given mercy nor forgiveness.

Really? Because the terrorist is anti-west? Would you think same for other terrorist organisations?

Kamal900
10-28-2017, 02:12 AM
Really? Because the terrorist is anti-west? Would you think same for other terrorist organisations?

Terrorism in general is evil regardless of their religious or political affiliations and motivations.

StonyArabia
10-28-2017, 03:43 AM
16 is on the edge of maturity. could still have childish behaviours. A psychologist would decide if she is capable or disabled in legal meanings.

I disagree. You are mature and should be tried as an adult when you are 16. I am glad that Iraq will not give up this White terrorist back. We had enough of Whites terrorizing us. I believe she is mature and she is clearly knew what she was getting into. If this was a Middle Eastern or an African Teen, you would not see any justification for them being just teens and often they are given full book of the law. She is evil. ISIS is a terrorist organization that has killed more Sunni Arabs, than anything, but the media is silent about it, because it does not fit the geopolitical agenda. ISIS has lost grounds because most Sunni Arabs knew who ISIS is. ISIS also harmed the Sunni Arabs more than anything, and also made sure that Kirkuk would go into Kurdish hands, this what happened. However since ISIS has been defeated, due to the resilience and fighting of the Sunni Arab tribes, the Kurds thought they can declare their independence, with Kirkuk as part of an independent Kurdistan, this because Kirkuk has large oil reserves, Iraq would never let Kirkuk or all of Kurdistan gain independence. The Western regions before had already did so, but they were easier to bring to the table, plus the natural resources in the Western regions are important, but not very important, plus there is the Arab connection. ISIS clearly did not serve the interest of the Sunni Arabs, but rather the neo-colonial agenda. Hence why I have no sympathy for this teenage terrorist and believe she is mature and should be tried by Iraqi law courts.

NSXD60
10-28-2017, 03:52 AM
A product of the Merkel migration policy. Wait for more useful idiots to do likewise.

adsız
10-28-2017, 07:16 AM
I disagree. You are mature and should be tried as an adult when you are 16. I am glad that Iraq will not give up this White terrorist back. We had enough of Whites terrorizing us. I believe she is mature and she is clearly knew what she was getting into. If this was a Middle Eastern or an African Teen, you would not see any justification for them being just teens and often they are given full book of the law. She is evil. ISIS is a terrorist organization that has killed more Sunni Arabs, than anything, but the media is silent about it, because it does not fit the geopolitical agenda. ISIS has lost grounds because most Sunni Arabs knew who ISIS is. ISIS also harmed the Sunni Arabs more than anything, and also made sure that Kirkuk would go into Kurdish hands, this what happened. However since ISIS has been defeated, due to the resilience and fighting of the Sunni Arab tribes, the Kurds thought they can declare their independence, with Kirkuk as part of an independent Kurdistan, this because Kirkuk has large oil reserves, Iraq would never let Kirkuk or all of Kurdistan gain independence. The Western regions before had already did so, but they were easier to bring to the table, plus the natural resources in the Western regions are important, but not very important, plus there is the Arab connection. ISIS clearly did not serve the interest of the Sunni Arabs, but rather the neo-colonial agenda. Hence why I have no sympathy for this teenage terrorist and believe she is mature and should be tried by Iraqi law courts.

I am sure Iraqi courts will consider her case according to the law which is i believe more or less the same as other countries.



I agree that ISIS did nothing for muslims but helped only western agenda in Iraq/Syria. It created base for the US backed terrorists to move freely as if they were "liberating" the lands but in fact invading. Western propaganda machine portrayed them as "heroic warriors" fighting ISIS but what they did was only to steal more land where many oil wells exist..

ISIS also did not fight these terrorists as hard as they fought Iraq/Syria official forces.

I am happy to see that countries in the region got united against this dirty agenda . Now, it is time for Iraq to establish the 2003 political borders. It has legal right. And enough support.

oszkar07
10-28-2017, 09:25 AM
She is clearly an idiotiotic and stupid person, but unless she has personally taken part in killing or torture of innocent people, then possibly she should be extradited to face charges of terrorism in Germany.
Cant see any reason as to why she should face death penalty if she has not been involved in killing or torturing innocent people.

Jehan
10-28-2017, 09:55 AM
Let's be honest here. The reason why many White western men here feel sympathy for her is because she's a White, Blonde haired German woman. Had she's been a middle eastern woman then nobody cares for her and so on.

I feel no sympathy for her. She disgust me. I would totally support death penality for her.
If it was only for me, she would kill with all other djihadi and her organs would be sell to finance the rebuild of irak and syria.

Loki
10-28-2017, 10:15 AM
Let's be honest here. The reason why many White western men here feel sympathy for her is because she's a White, Blonde haired German woman. Had she's been a middle eastern woman then nobody cares for her and so on. Disgusting, I know.

Yes, of course, it is true. I must admit I am also shocked, as a white person, to see a white German girl in this mess. But, however sad it may be, all indications are that she did it through her own will, and she even admitted killing Iraqi soldiers as a sniper. Therefore, it is fully understandable that Iraq treats her as any other terrorist. She should face the full course of the law to decide her fate.

What is the world coming to? It's because European youth are torn from their traditions and culture, and only offered a void of nothing during upbringing -- cell phones and crap American music. So it's no wonder they search for meaning elsewhere, such as Islam.

ps: It is worth noting that her jihadi husband was also white ... a Chechen man. But this is an instance where I would not at all support the white couple, but rather support the brown Iraqis to fight and eliminate them.

Dandelion
10-28-2017, 10:55 AM
Let's be honest here. The reason why many White western men here feel sympathy for her is because she's a White, Blonde haired German woman. Had she's been a middle eastern woman then nobody cares for her and so on. Disgusting, I know.

She's not blonde. Otherwise, yeah, women garner more sympathy from society and Westerners more from other Westerners. I do understand her parents, because they're her parents though. That's different from just society.

Dandelion
10-28-2017, 10:57 AM
I feel no sympathy for her. She disgust me. I would totally support death penality for her.
If it was only for me, she would kill with all other djihadi and her organs would be sell to finance the rebuild of irak and syria.

She was probably thinking with her vagina, but it led her to commit crimes. She is still fully responsible for them. I agree.

MagnusAurelius
10-28-2017, 02:54 PM
These pictures are hilarious and she is hideous.

Jehan
10-28-2017, 03:08 PM
Lol just make this:

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StonyArabia
10-28-2017, 03:12 PM
I am sure Iraqi courts will consider her case according to the law which is i believe more or less the same as other countries.

Iraq should not be pushed anymore to cater for Westerners, this how me and many other Iraqis see it. They have brought nothing good to us. You commit a crime in our land you get the punishment from our laws.



I agree that ISIS did nothing for muslims but helped only western agenda in Iraq/Syria. It created base for the US backed terrorists to move freely as if they were "liberating" the lands but in fact invading. Western propaganda machine portrayed them as "heroic warriors" fighting ISIS but what they did was only to steal more land where many oil wells exist..

ISIS was clearly working for the neo-colonial agenda, create destruction and mayhem, and then distract the people. This what the KRG did when the distraction occurred they conquered Kirkuk. What is happening in Iraq is all for Israel. For example if Kurdistan became independent, there will be oil pipelines going from Kirkuk to Israel, and this would have changed the oil market completely, hence why some of the Gulf nations changed their tunes, because their oil markets would be crushed. Not to mention there has been Israelis buying lands from the Kurdish leadership. The globalist controlled media of course want to portray their allies heroes, but those who don't stand up for being puppets like the Western regions tribes, there is nothing but demonization.


ISIS also did not fight these terrorists as hard as they fought Iraq/Syria official forces.

ISIS victims have often Sunni Arab Muslims more than anyone. Thus it's clear what agenda they serve in the region. The Iraqi army had improved because it lead by the non-sectarian and true nationalist Haider Al-Abadi, who had admitted that Shia militas in the past have done atrocities to the Sunni population, after the Anglo-American barbarians and their European lackeys invaded the nation. If it was not for the Sunni Arab tribes fighting ISIS, they would not have been defeated, and ISIS will remain intact.


I am happy to see that countries in the region got united against this dirty agenda . Now, it is time for Iraq to establish the 2003 political borders. It has legal right. And enough support.

Of course, also Haider Al-Abadi is true nationalist and he is not much of an Anglo-American puppet or even an Iranian puppet. This why the Americans dislike him, because he is recovering the broken nation, unlike Nour Al-Maliki the sectarian genocidal maniac who was given power and brought destruction, mayhem and bloodshed in the region. Haider Al-Abadi said he might even taken the autonomy for the "Kurdish" region. He also has rolled back the Anglo-American agenda of Balkanizing Iraq, and has set up with the Western regions tribal council, so far things are going well. He also extended his arms to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf nations. So far it seems that Iraq might recover from being terrorized for nearly 30 years by the Anglo-Americans.

adsız
10-28-2017, 03:52 PM
Haider Al-Abadi said he might even taken the autonomy for the "Kurdish" region.

He should. Spain did.

Barzani and his gang should also be arrested for treason, and put on trial in court marshal.

Arduti
10-28-2017, 04:00 PM
Some very hurtful things on this thread.
Like shoving people's faces in the mud.

Dandelion
10-28-2017, 04:01 PM
I remember people here saying she should be executed who were defending her months earlier, just because they hate Shi'a as Iraq is ruled by them now. You know who you are.

StonyArabia
10-28-2017, 04:04 PM
He should. Spain did.

Barzani and his gang should also be arrested for treason, and put on trial in court marshal.

Barzani is a well known traitor, and in fact his people would suffer the most from his games, but they are not thinking for the long-term complications that might happen. However there is unlikely incentive for the Kurdish regions to be independent from Iraq, because Kirkuk has been conquered by Iraq. Kurdistan without Kirkuk is not economically viable. The problem unlike Spain, the Anglo-Americans put their long noses in the business affairs of Iraq, so this why Al-Abadi is doing and calculating his moves. However I agree. Plus Kirkuk was always multiethnic region and the majority of the population was in fact Turkmens both Sunni and Shia, with some sunni Arabs, and good amount of Shia Arabs, and Kurds. So far Iraq has rolled back the independence movement, but I don't know if he will take the autonomy, this will take time. However he said he will. Haider Al-Abadi is also not catering to the Anglo-American machine like the idiot Nour Al-Maliki the scum. After 2003, Iraq had lost respect and many of the great and true proud nationalist military men were killed, by the Anglo-Americans and their proxies, however things are changing and Iraq slowly is gaining the respect it deserves. Barzani is going to suffer the fate of all traitors, so there is no need for arrest.

wvwvw
10-28-2017, 04:58 PM
Yes, of course, it is true. I must admit I am also shocked, as a white person, to see a white German girl in this mess. But, however sad it may be, all indications are that she did it through her own will, and she even admitted killing Iraqi soldiers as a sniper. Therefore, it is fully understandable that Iraq treats her as any other terrorist. She should face the full course of the law to decide her fate.

What is the world coming to? It's because European youth are torn from their traditions and culture, and only offered a void of nothing during upbringing -- cell phones and crap American music. So it's no wonder they search for meaning elsewhere, such as Islam.

ps: It is worth noting that her jihadi husband was also white ... a Chechen man. But this is an instance where I would not at all support the white couple, but rather support the brown Iraqis to fight and eliminate them.

She was a sniper and killed Iraqi soldiers? I didn't know that..wow

How did she managed all that at 16 lol

wvwvw
10-28-2017, 05:03 PM
I am against the death penalty. I feel more sorry for her parents who seem like regular Germans. I imagine the shock they must be feeling at seeing their daughter falling victim to the claws of Islam.

I don't think 16 year old kids should be put to death. I think they should be given a second chance. And I do feel sorry for all those young terrorists. I did feel sorry for that 18 year old Algerian who blew himself up in France.

The reason I feel a bit more sorry for this German girl is because her parents didn't raise her that way, while many Arab kids are indoctrinated from small age, sometimes from their parents. They grow up in a terrorist culture.

Kazimiera
10-28-2017, 05:08 PM
As sad as this is, actions and decisions come with consequences. Everyone makes dumbass decisions at some time in their life. Nobody is immune to assholish choices. BUT if you make decisions you have to deal with what comes along with them. This is one of those cases.

wvwvw
10-28-2017, 05:11 PM
As sad as this is, actions and decisions come with consequences. Everyone makes dumbass decisions at some time in their life. Nobody is immune to assholish choices. BUT if you make decisions you have to deal with what comes along with them. This is one of those cases.

Still the death penalty is too harsh punishment for a 16 years old.

Kazimiera
10-28-2017, 05:20 PM
Still the death penalty is too harsh punishment for a 16 years old.

The bullets of a 16 year old sniper are no less lethal than the bullets of an adult.

I don't support the death penalty either, but if you go to a country to get involved in a terrorist organisation then you should suffer the consequences.

Different countries have different laws, and if you go there you should be WELL aware of what awaits you if you break those laws. EVERYONE knows that bringing drugs into Singapore involves the death penalty. If you are going to Singapore with heroin in your pocket, you know in advance that there is a noose with your name on it if you get caught. It doesn't matter what your nationality or age is, if you smuggle drugs into Singapore you WILL be hanged. The same counts for this case. She KNEW she was getting involved with a terrorist organisation, she went there voluntarily. Nobody forced her. Those laws belong to that country.

al-Bosni
10-28-2017, 05:26 PM
Iraqis can't refuse to extradite her. She is a German and Germany wants her back. If these Iraqis don't hand her over the Germans should bomb the hell out of them.

crazyladybutterfly
10-28-2017, 05:28 PM
Teenagers are young adults. If she was 18 everyone would call her what she is a terrorist. However because she is 2 years younger she is not. Believe me there are many teenage terrorists, though most tend to be male. For example if she was not White, no one would care about her fate or be sympathetic.

yeah they can be terrorists. even children under 10 basically are.
but adults? if your body and your mind is still developing you arent an adult. 18 is an arbitrary age , i agree on that many at 18 are still adolescents.

crazyladybutterfly
10-28-2017, 05:34 PM
Lol just make this:

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which would actually make these men as bad as isis....

StonyArabia
10-29-2017, 02:16 AM
Still the death penalty is too harsh punishment for a 16 years old.

Not really 16 years old is very mature, she is young adult, and she has committed acts of terrorism and thus she chose her fate.

Loki
10-29-2017, 06:19 AM
Iraqis can't refuse to extradite her. She is a German and Germany wants her back. If these Iraqis don't hand her over the Germans should bomb the hell out of them.

lol, why do you side with a terrorist girl? :p She killed people... and still doesn't want to cooperate with the authorities, the good guys. She must be full of demons.

Loki
10-29-2017, 06:20 AM
which would actually make these men as bad as isis....

Why? They didn't rape her, told her to kill people, or told her to do other bad stuff. They did nothing wrong. They're the good guys. You 're just saying so because they are brown.

Smeagol
10-29-2017, 06:45 AM
She deserves the death penalty.

al-Bosni
10-29-2017, 06:55 AM
lol, why do you side with a terrorist girl? :p She killed people... and still doesn't want to cooperate with the authorities, the good guys. She must be full of demons.
The people she killed also killed people.

Loki
10-29-2017, 07:12 AM
The people she killed also killed people.

Yes, they killed terrorists. If they didn't, then someone else would have had to.

crazyladybutterfly
10-29-2017, 10:29 AM
Why? They didn't rape her, told her to kill people, or told her to do other bad stuff. They did nothing wrong. They're the good guys. You 're just saying so because they are brown.

shia militiamen are really not much better than isis as there are videos of these men killing young boys just because they suspected them of being isis soldiers it wouldnt surprise me if those shia supremacists raped a 16 years old sunni ... though i would guess the iraqi soldiers are a different story. but who are those guys first?

and i havent implied they raped her , which jehan suggested, i said that IF they raped her they are no better than isis ... and i am hopeful they didnt touch her.

crazyladybutterfly
10-29-2017, 10:32 AM
i would be against the death penality even if it was an adult arab man. i support it only when it is strictly necessary

Loki
10-29-2017, 10:35 AM
shia militiamen are really not much better than isis as there are videos of these men killing young boys just because they suspected them of being isis soldiers it wouldnt surprise me if those shia supremacists raped a 16 years old sunni ... though i would guess the iraqi soldiers are a different story. but who are those guys first?


Come on you don't really believe this... there is absolutely no comparison between ISIS fighters and the Iraqi Army soldiers. Don't be ridiculous. This is either willful ignorance or sadly an ignorant delusion.

Gold-Shekel
10-29-2017, 02:06 PM
Young people are the worst in armed conflicts, young people with frustrations commit war crimes with ease. She deserves the death penalty. Also, how surprising is it that BundesCuckRepublik Deutschland want to save a terrorist?

Tong
10-29-2017, 02:19 PM
They should keep her imo.