Rank these armenians from best fit to worst

[Seth MacFarlane]

Israel/Jewish
Turkey
Iran
Lebanese
South Italy/Sicily
Greece
Albania


http://www.crrc.am/hosting/file/_static_content/fellows/junior/2014/sona.jpg
https://s1.postimg.org/5twycp6sdb/Screenshot_20171029-051154_2.png
http://www.crrc.am/hosting/file/_static_content/fellows/junior/2016/Junior_Fellow_Lusine%20Sargsyan_CRRC-Armenia.jpg
http://www.vem.am/thumbs/990x614/media/2017/07/3448.jpg
https://d1zpvjny0s6omk.cloudfront.net/media/cache/5d/22/5d229d9c6733c624bd1377ac673fa598.jpg
http://www.med-practic.com/up/doctors/big/file_1863_8630528.jpg

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/2/000/21b/303/3ff248b.jpg
http://apo.am/wp-content/uploads/Ani-Karapetyan1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/735972454426759170/kNlOHQqE_400x400.jpg
http://www.mer-hooys.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Lilit-Sargsyan-1-768x1024.jpg
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a9c262_4fef4c62bd8944d7a6afbce976b00ba6.jpg/v1/fill/w_519,h_564,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/a9c262_4fef4c62bd8944d7a6afbce976b00ba6.webp
http://orer.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/armen-hakobyan-2-450x600.jpg
http://thebridge.aua.am/files/2015/02/Iren-Nazaryan--1024x681.jpg
http://www.intellijointsurgical.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/FillWyI0NzAiLCI0NzAiXQ-Armen-Bakirtzian.jpg
https://yt3.ggpht.com/-ZN9grrg6VVQ/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/c3l-TYvQ4R0/s900-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg
http://www.hdif.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Varoujan-e1439618829511.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Tt1bK7dHcm4/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAC0/L36R3QJQerU/photo.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-myPvbi3IPRk/TweDI4dnR0I/AAAAAAAAAIU/czI84oi-yHo/w506-h750/Avo%2Bweb%2Bpicture%2B2.jpg
http://www.aravot.am/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_6051.jpg
http://www.armlook.com/uploads/images/episodes/big/img_55635f1b53446.jpg

[Tauromachos]

Iran>Turkey>other options

[MysteriousWays]

Not similar to Albanians despite claims I have seen from some here in the past. Nor do I think they are especially similar to southern Italian/Sicilians. Bit tricky to rate because many of these countries have extremely diverse populations, but here goes...I'm going to split Jews into Mizrahi and Ashkenazi (Sephardim are excluded but would be close to Ashkenazim I think in the rankings).


Iran (NW specifically; rest is lower)
Turkey
Jewish (Iraqi/Iranian specifically; others will be lower)
Lebanon
Jewish (Ashkenazi & Sephardim are essentially tied)
S. Italian/Sicilian
Greek
Albanian

[Hadouken]

Israel
Lebanon
Turkey - East and NorthEast (basically where I am from up/east until Artvin/Kars . some look very foreign though)
Iran - North/Northwest
Greece - rather Islands
south Italy and sicily
Albania

[Columella]

Name ? Surname?
https://s1.postimg.org/5twycp6sdb/Screenshot_20171029-051154_2.png

[Seth MacFarlane]

Israel
Lebanon
Turkey - East and NorthEast (basically where I am from up/east until Artvin/Kars . some look very foreign though)
Iran - North/Northwest
Greece - rather Islands
south Italy and sicily
Albania

Thanks for posting bro agreed

[Seth MacFarlane]

Name ? Surname?
https://s1.postimg.org/5twycp6sdb/Screenshot_20171029-051154_2.png

Soloyan why ?

[Sikeliot]

Not similar to Albanians despite claims I have seen from some here in the past. Nor do I think they are especially similar to southern Italian/Sicilians. Bit tricky to rate because many of these countries have extremely diverse populations, but here goes...I'm going to split Jews into Mizrahi and Ashkenazi (Sephardim are excluded but would be close to Ashkenazim I think in the rankings).


Iran (NW specifically; rest is lower)
Turkey
Jewish (Iraqi/Iranian specifically; others will be lower)
Lebanon
Jewish (Ashkenazi & Sephardim are essentially tied)
S. Italian/Sicilian
Greek
Albanian



This is more or less what I would have said.

[Gangrel]

Israel
Lebanon
Turkey - East and NorthEast (basically where I am from up/east until Artvin/Kars . some look very foreign though)
Iran - North/Northwest
Greece - rather Islands
south Italy and sicily
Albania

yep

[StonyArabia]

Israel
Lebanon
Turkey - East and NorthEast (basically where I am from up/east until Artvin/Kars . some look very foreign though)
Iran - North/Northwest
Greece - rather Islands
south Italy and sicily
Albania

I agree with this.

It would be

Israel
Lebanon
Northern Iraq
Turkey[East/Northeast]
Iran[Northwest]
Greece[islands]
South Italy/Sicily
Albania

[Tooting Carmen]

Israel
Lebanon
Turkey - East and NorthEast (basically where I am from up/east until Artvin/Kars . some look very foreign though)
Iran - North/Northwest
Greece - rather Islands
south Italy and sicily
Albania

Something like this. They look surprisingly different from Georgians and North Caucasians. These two would fit quite well in Pakistan imo (not really the others though):
https://yt3.ggpht.com/-ZN9grrg6VVQ/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/c3l-TYvQ4R0/s900-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg

EDIT: The taller woman and maybe the shorter one here could pass too, as could the woman in the first photo posted by the OP.
http://orer.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/armen-hakobyan-2-450x600.jpg

[Massagetae]

#11 looks very Kipcak/Turkic

[Böri]

They don't fit in all north east Turkey btw. People like Laz might have big nose and genetically close to them but they are very light.
Actually these Armenians fit better in Syria than (western) Turkey wholly.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Something like this. They look surprisingly different from Georgians and North Caucasians.

It's because they are more " Caucasian " and Armenians more middle Eastern . I use to have a Oracle for a Armenian and the top results were Assyrians and mizrahi jews

[Tooting Carmen]

Also, given how Greece, Albania and South Italy were listed as options, shouldn't they have been counterbalanced by places like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Punjab?

[Tooting Carmen]

It's because they are more " Caucasian " and Armenians more middle Eastern . I use to have a Oracle for a Armenian and the top results were Assyrians and mizrahi jews

Yeah, people like Mamuka Gorgodze and Jaba Bregvadze (I have opened threads about both) are really commonplace in Georgia but apparently much rarer in Armenia.

[Hudayar]

Almost all of them look Jewish to me
except for
https://s1.postimg.org/5twycp6sdb/Screenshot_20171029-051154_2.png
can pass as Turk easily

[Seth MacFarlane]

Also, given how Greece, Albania and South Italy were listed as options, shouldn't they have been counterbalanced by places like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Punjab?

No they shouldn't have , Armenoid is present in Greece Albania and south Italy and also there's European looking Armenians .. don't be ridiculous bro lol

[lameduck]

Something like this. They look surprisingly different from Georgians and North Caucasians. These two would fit quite well in Pakistan imo (not really the others though):
https://yt3.ggpht.com/-ZN9grrg6VVQ/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/c3l-TYvQ4R0/s900-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg



Left can pass as Punjabi and right as Pashtun, others not really

[Seth MacFarlane]

Almost all of them look Jewish to me
except for
https://s1.postimg.org/5twycp6sdb/Screenshot_20171029-051154_2.png
can pass as Turk easily

She actually looks Jewish to me also

[Tooting Carmen]

No they shouldn't have , Armenoid is present in Greece Albania and south Italy and also there's European looking Armenians .. don't be ridiculous bro lol

Some of them, such as the ones I indicated, do look more similar to South Asians (and possibly Gulf Arabs) than to Europeans though.

[lameduck]

Some of them, such as the ones I indicated, do look more similar to South Asians (and possibly Gulf Arabs) than to Europeans though.

If there are Pakis that look like them , there are also many Pakistanis that dont look like them , west Eurasian populations are best compared with other West Eurasian populations.

[Böri]

Armenians have the Christianity card and are pulled to Europe in a way or in another. If they were Muslims you would try to team them up with Saudis :)
Let's be fair, they are closer to Lebanon and Syria than to (Western, most of) Turkey. They are out of place also in Georgia.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Some of them, such as the ones I indicated, do look more similar to South Asians (and possibly Gulf Arabs) than to Europeans though.

Well in the pic with the two guys , one on left could pass as paki . The one on right can't pass any further south then Afghanistan . As for gulf Arabians.. many of them have ssa

[Hudayar]

She actually looks Jewish to me also

actually i looked at her face closely now. She does look Jewish. But meh can pass here imo.

[Kamal900]

They fit among Israelis like a glove, lol. Lebanon is the 2nd best country for them pass in. They can pass in certain regions in Turkey and Iran, and the worst fit has to be in countries like Greece and Albania.

[Lavrentis]

Armenians have the Christianity card and are pulled to Europe in a way or in another. If they were Muslims you would try to team them up with Saudis [emoji4]
Let's be fair, they are closer to Lebanon and Syria than to (Western, most of) Turkey. They are out of place also in Georgia.

They might not be typical in Turkish Thrace but they're very typical for the rest of Turkey.

You try to full others about how Turks look, given that you are an OWDer, but you cannot fool me. I have been watching football/soccer since I was a kid, and I have seen tons of Turkish footballers.

Don't make me post Turkish footballers.


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[Lavrentis]

Some can pass as almost typical Anatolian Greeks but they fit better among Jewish people imo.

I always thought that Jews and Armenians looked kinda alike.


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[Sikeliot]

Some can pass as almost typical Anatolian Greeks but they fit better among Jewish people imo.


Because Anatolian Greeks are Hellenized Anatolians and Caucasus people. These people look distinct even from Aegean islanders let alone mainland Greeks.

[Lavrentis]

I think that all the people below could easily be Jewish:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/c21320049f6c774781237bb25de6c83f.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/550932dc903ad20291314389b606d66f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/80219735b0ada9aff1bdfcef1c7b5073.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/639d901d363e0c4d1b3e09727c97400f.jpg


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[Lavrentis]

Because Anatolian Greeks are Hellenized Anatolians and Caucasus people. These people look distinct even from Aegean islanders let alone mainland Greeks.

Yeah, I just mentioned this because a lot of people don't know it. If you go to Thessaloniki, Greece's second largest city which is 40% Anatolian Greek, you can see some Anatolian Greek phenotypes like the people posted here but they're usually mixed with other Greeks.

They're very atypical for Albania and south Italy too.


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[Sikeliot]

Yeah, I just mentioned this because a lot of people don't know it.

Well people might see such types and assume they are part of the natural variation of Greece, but they're not. If you removed their influence, Greece would have almost no MENA types on the mainland.

[Lavrentis]

Well people might see such types and assume they are part of the natural variation of Greece, but they're not. If you removed their influence, Greece would have almost no MENA types on the mainland.

Actually, most of the time people do assume that such types are part of national variation here, but it's normal when you're a foreigner who has been only one time in Greece or whatever information you have about Greece is from the internet.

Greeks are already a tanned people but when you add the heavy MENA influence of some Anatolian Greeks, then stereotypes just come and go.


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[Seth MacFarlane]

I always thought that Jews and Armenians looked kinda alike.


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So have I , I even think Armenia has the most " Jewish looking " people outside of israel , these people weren't even cherrypicked. People just don't usually equate them because Jews are so called "Semites " and Armenians "Caucasian " lmao :rolleyes: . Could be a few reasons for the similarity , Armenia had a presence of Assyrians and Jews , and israel was also invaded by assyria. Armenians , Assyrians and mizrahi Jews ( Jews from Iraq , Iran , Georgia , Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan ) form a tight genetic cluster so they likely share same roots
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/zenphoto/albums/razib-new-2/z5.png

[Sikeliot]

Actually, most of the time people do assume that such types are part of national variation here, but it's normal when you're a foreigner who has been only one time in Greece or whatever information you have about Greece is from the internet.

Greeks are already a tanned people but when you add the heavy MENA influence of some Anatolian Greeks, then stereotypes just come and go.


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If people can recognize Ashkenazim are not part of natural MENA variation when they look European I do not see why they don't know the same about Anatolian Greeks. Then there is all of the comparing of all Greeks to Sicilians/Calabrese which just adds to the impression of them being darker than they are.

[Lavrentis]

So have I , I even think Armenia has the most " Jewish looking " people outside of israel , these people weren't even cherrypicked. People just don't usually equate them because Jews are so called "Semites " and Armenians "Caucasian " lmao :rolleyes: . Could be a few reasons for the similarity , Armenia had a presence of Assyrians and Jews , and israel was also invaded by assyria. Armenians , Assyrians and mizrahi Jews ( Jews from Iraq , Iran , Georgia , Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan ) form a tight genetic cluster so they likely share same roots
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/zenphoto/albums/razib-new-2/z5.png

Don't you think that this connection is ancient?

Besides phenotypical, Jews and Armenians have some other similarities, for example both had significant communities and diaspora throughout all of Europe.


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[Lavrentis]

If people can recognize Ashkenazim are not part of natural MENA variation when they look European I do not see why they don't know the same about Anatolian Greeks. Then there is all of the comparing of all Greeks to Sicilians/Calabrese which just adds to the impression of them being darker than they are.

Usually Greeks are compared with Italians as a whole, and that's wrong imo, since Greece does have similarities with South and maybe Central Italy, but not with North Italy which is an important part of Italy as well. Then you have the stereotype that all Italians are like Sicilians etc.


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[Hungarian_master]

Iran
Israel/Jewish
Turkey
Lebanon
South Italy/Sicily
Greece
Albania

And opinion for this thread?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225178-Hungarians-(updated-version-but-only-the-first-page-have-pictures)

[Seth MacFarlane]

I think that all the people below could easily be Jewish:u

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/c21320049f6c774781237bb25de6c83f.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/550932dc903ad20291314389b606d66f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/80219735b0ada9aff1bdfcef1c7b5073.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/639d901d363e0c4d1b3e09727c97400f.jpg


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What about the guy in this pic he looks so jew it hurts lol ,

http://www.vem.am/thumbs/990x614/media/2017/07/3448.jpg
handful of the woman I posted do too especially these

http://apo.am/wp-content/uploads/Ani-Karapetyan1.jpg

http://www.med-practic.com/up/doctors/big/file_1863_8630528.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Usually Greeks are compared with Italians as a whole, and that's wrong imo, since Greece does have similarities with South and maybe Central Italy

I don't think Greeks should be compared to Sicilians and Calabrese though. Apulia makes sense. Abruzzo does too. But not the two I said.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Don't you think that this connection is ancient?

Besides phenotypical, Jews and Armenians have some other similarities, for example both had significant communities and diaspora throughout all of Europe.


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Yea I thinks it's ancient because in the last few thousand years , those 3 communities rarely marry outside their own since they are so small.

[Lavrentis]

What about the guy in this pic he looks so jew it hurts lol ,

http://www.vem.am/thumbs/990x614/media/2017/07/3448.jpg
handful of the woman I posted do too especially these

http://apo.am/wp-content/uploads/Ani-Karapetyan1.jpg

http://www.med-practic.com/up/doctors/big/file_1863_8630528.jpg

Agreed with your post


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[Lavrentis]

I don't think Greeks should be compared to Sicilians and Calabrese though. Apulia makes sense. Abruzzo does too. But not the two I said.

Well if you say so. But both Sicilians and Calabrese are still south Italian. The difference between them and other south Italians is autosomal.


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[Lavrentis]

Yea I thinks it's ancient because in the last few thousand years , those 3 communities rarely marry outside their own since they are so small.

Well, I think that Jews in Europe (mostly Ashkenazis) did intermarry with other people. This is how it can be explained that a good number of Jews look fully Northern and Eastern European, or at least half.


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[MysteriousWays]

Many of them do look similar to one another, I have to say.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Well, I think that Jews in Europe (mostly Ashkenazis) did intermarry with other people. This is how it can be explained that a good number of Jews look fully Northern and Eastern European, or at least half.


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Agreed

[Seth MacFarlane]

Many of them do look similar to one another, I have to say.

Inbreeding lmaoo no but yea Armenia is a small country , many of them do look alike . It's also because most of them are same phenotype : Armenoid

[Sikeliot]

Well if you say so. But both Sicilians and Calabrese are still south Italian. The difference between them and other south Italians is autosomal.


Do you think it is accurate to compare Sicilians and Calabrese to people in places like Epirus or Thessaly?

[Tooting Carmen]

Do you think it is accurate to compare Sicilians and Calabrese to people in places like Epirus or Thessaly?

No, but they're still a lot more alike than e.g. Provence and Languedoc-Rousillon are to Yorkshire and Scotland.

[Sikeliot]

No, but they're still a lot more alike than e.g. Provence and Languedoc-Rousillon are to Yorkshire and Scotland.

They are as close to Cypriots as to Greeks in those regions, if not slightly closer to Cypriots.

[Lavrentis]

Do you think it is accurate to compare Sicilians and Calabrese to people in places like Epirus or Thessaly?

Epirus is a difficult thing. It has a lot of Arvanite influence, but some places in Sicily have too. I expected Epirots to look more Albanian, but like, 60% of them don't seem to look different from other native Greeks at all. The other 40% are Arvanites and Anatolians.

Thessaly is just standard mainland Greece with some Vlachic, or maybe Slavo-Vlachic influence, since a lot of Vlachs in Thessaly came from northern places in Greece and Balkans and were mixed with Slavs.


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[Sikeliot]

Epirus is a difficult thing. It has a lot of Arvanite influence, but some places in Sicily have too. I expected Epirots to look more Albanian, but like, 60% of them don't seem to look different from other native Greeks at all. The other 40% are Arvanites and Anatolians.

Thessaly is just standard mainland Greece with some Vlachic, or maybe Slavo-Vlachic influence, since a lot of Vlachs in Thessaly came from northern places in Greece and Balkans and were mixed with Slavs.


The bolded is why most of them do not look Sicilian. As far as Arvanites in Sicily I have indicated they live in their own villages, consider themselves ethnically distinct, and did not mix with anyone else. They live mostly in Contessa Entellina and neighboring towns. More Sicilian admixture came into their community than the reverse.

[Lavrentis]

The bolded is why most of them do not look Sicilian. As far as Arvanites in Sicily I have indicated they live in their own villages, consider themselves ethnically distinct, and did not mix with anyone else. They live mostly in Contessa Entellina and neighboring towns. More Sicilian admixture came into their community than the reverse.

Agreed then


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[Sikeliot]

Agreed then


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To me when people say all Greeks are close to southern Italians it is inaccurate because while you can draw parallels between Dodecanese and Calabria, or Sicily and Crete, there is nothing in southern Italy parallel to Thrace, Macedonia, Thessaly, or Epirus. Not even in Italy is anywhere as "eastern".

[MysteriousWays]

Inbreeding lmaoo no but yea Armenia is a small country , many of them do look alike . It's also because most of them are same phenotype : Armenoid

I meant between Armenians, Assyrians (to some extent), and Iraqi/Iranian Jews (to some extent). But yea, of course many have Armenoid influence or are fully Armenoid in some cases.

[Lavrentis]

To me when people say all Greeks are close to southern Italians it is inaccurate because while you can draw parallels between Dodecanese and Calabria, or Sicily and Crete, there is nothing in southern Italy parallel to Thrace, Macedonia, Thessaly, or Epirus. Not even in Italy is anywhere as "eastern".

There are different 'ingredients' from the Greek regions you mentioned from those of south Italy.

In the Greek regions you mentioned, there are Slavs, Muslim Slavs (Pomaks), probably more Arvanites than in Sicily, Vlachs and a lot of Anatolian Greeks. This cannot be compared to south Italy. But a lot of people in Macedonia or Thrace can look like this:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/296de7497095f868e1a714c53e2681ef.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/eb53b846495dca8e94c1727871b7431d.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/d4ad8ba09f8d8529e3f3b1276ef8ed88.png

I just did a Google search and found these 3 northern Greeks. I don't think that they would be atypical in southern Italy.




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[Sikeliot]

There are different 'ingredients' the Greek regions you mentioned from those of south Italy.

In the Greek regions you mentioned, there are Slavs, Muslim Slavs (Pomaks), probably more Arvanites than in Sicily, Vlachs and a lot of Anatolian Greeks. This cannot be compared to south Italy. But a lot of people in Macedonia or Thrace can look like this:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/296de7497095f868e1a714c53e2681ef.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/eb53b846495dca8e94c1727871b7431d.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/d4ad8ba09f8d8529e3f3b1276ef8ed88.png

I just did a Google search and found these 3 northern Greeks. I don't think that they would be atypical in southern Italy.



No, but someone like this would be... I did have a Sicilian ex that looked like this but he was so atypical phenotypically that people always mistook him for other things.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Kyriakos-Papadopoulos.jpg/1200px-Kyriakos-Papadopoulos.jpg

[Seth MacFarlane]

I meant between Armenians, Assyrians (to some extent), and Iraqi/Iranian Jews (to some extent). But yea, of course many have Armenoid influence or are fully Armenoid in some cases.

Ah yes thats what i thought u meant at first :thumb001:

[Tooting Carmen]

No, but someone like this would be... I did have a Sicilian ex that looked like this but he was so atypical phenotypically that people always mistook him for other things.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Kyriakos-Papadopoulos.jpg/1200px-Kyriakos-Papadopoulos.jpg

What about Marco Verratti then?
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Barcelona-Real-Madrid-PSG-Marco-Verratti-804006.jpg

[Lavrentis]

No, but someone like this would be... I did have a Sicilian ex that looked like this but he was so atypical phenotypically that people always mistook him for other things.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Kyriakos-Papadopoulos.jpg/1200px-Kyriakos-Papadopoulos.jpg

I guess you'd be surprised to know that this guy has one of the most common Pontian surnames.. and there are a lot of Pontians in the town that he was born.

Interesting enough, his surname is the most common in Greece at the same time.


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[Sikeliot]

What about Marco Verratti then?
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Barcelona-Real-Madrid-PSG-Marco-Verratti-804006.jpg


He looks more Caucasian to me than Slavic or Balkan. But his look is more "eastern" than typical, yes. He is Abruzzese.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/marco-verratti-of-italy-speaks-to-media-during-a-press-conference-at-picture-id495261975?s=612x612

[Lavrentis]

What about Marco Verratti then?
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Barcelona-Real-Madrid-PSG-Marco-Verratti-804006.jpg

Yeah, that guy looks clearly 'Eastern', as Sikeliot would say.

I had also found his Romanian lookalike:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/93b9ff467c7b35760bf5ffdfb48cd4b1.png

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/f0c9a5d34ed84b2c24fa8296a38b9436.jpg




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[Sikeliot]

Yeah, that guy looks clearly 'Eastern', as Sikeliot would say.

Would he fit in Greece?

He is Abruzzese though. Good luck finding a Calabrese who looks Slavic. If someone can I will be surprised.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Hey I love you guys but do you mind moving the off topic to a different thread , it's pages worth.. sikeliot can you edit and clean this up lol

[Lavrentis]

Would he fit in Greece?

He doesn't. At least he is not typical, and you know it.


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[dreq]

Not similar to Albanians despite claims I have seen from some here in the past. Nor do I think they are especially similar to southern Italian/Sicilians. Bit tricky to rate because many of these countries have extremely diverse populations, but here goes...I'm going to split Jews into Mizrahi and Ashkenazi (Sephardim are excluded but would be close to Ashkenazim I think in the rankings).


Iran (NW specifically; rest is lower)
Turkey
Jewish (Iraqi/Iranian specifically; others will be lower)
Lebanon
Jewish (Ashkenazi & Sephardim are essentially tied)
S. Italian/Sicilian
Greek
Albanian

As individuals, many of them can easily pass as north Albanians/Kosovars, Especially some of those women and few of the men. They dont look that different from the ones Trilecce posted.

It is rather Albanian members here who cherrypick pictures of the lightest Albanians. And what claims? The similarities was said by Carleton Coon, he never said they looked 100% identitical or phenotypically similar but similar charachteristics as both are dinarised people same with lebanese etc only Armenians have longer faces and greater nasal breadth which gives the term armenoid , the latter dont exist in north Albania or even Turkey etc. Or Lebanon

I can easily show you Albanians who look somewhat similar. And they have been posted plenty of times but you ignore them and pass them as atypical or people claim they are gypsies etc.. this place is funny

It is rather members here that claimed Albanians and Chechens look alike which they dont. Armenians and Lebanese and Syrians as individuals pass better as North Albanians than North Caucasians/Chechens do.

It is obvious most of people on these forums are either nordicists or anthrotards who learn anthropology from these various pseudoscientist sites.

[Seth MacFarlane]

As individuals, many of them can easily pass as north Albanians/Kosovars, Especially some of those women and few of the men. They dont look that different from the ones Trilecce posted.

It is rather Albanian members here who cherrypick pictures of the lightest Albanians. And what claims? The similarities was said by Carleton Coon, he never said they looked 100% identitical or phenotypically similar but similar charachteristics as both are dinarised people same with lebanese etc only Armenians have longer faces and greater nasal breadth which gives the term armenoid , the latter dont exist in north Albania or even Turkey etc. Or Lebanon

I can easily show you Albanians who look somewhat similar. And they have been posted plenty of times but you ignore them and pass them as atypical

It is rather members here that claimed Albanians and Chechens look alike which they dont. Armenians and Lebanese and Syrians as individuals pass better as North Albanians than North Caucasians/Chechens do.

It is obvious most of people on these forums are either nordicists or anthrotards who learn anthropology from these various pseudoscientist sites.

Hmm I don't mean to offend but I do see the similarities between Albanians and north Caucasians , I think many Chechens etc look Balkan and vice versa . They mostly look like a mix of Pontid alpine and dinarid to me

[Odin]

Best: Levant.
Worse: Southern Europe.

[Armenian Bishop]

Inbreeding lmaoo no but yea Armenia is a small country , many of them do look alike . It's also because most of them are same phenotype : Armenoid

Yes Armenia is a "small country" now; but, no, Armenia wasn't always a small country, and they don't look monolithic, or typically one and the same. In fact, the Britannica Encyclopedia states that the Armenian Highlands "covers almost 154,400 square miles (400,000 square km)." As for the OP, the pictures don't at all look representative of the Armenian Community as a whole, but only give us an idea about a small portion of Armenians.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Yes Armenia is a "small country" now; but, no, Armenia wasn't always a small country, and they don't look monolithic, or typically one and the same. In fact, the Britannica Encyclopedia states that the Armenian Highlands "covers almost 154,400 square miles (400,000 square km)." As for the OP, the pictures don't at all look representative of the Armenian Community as a whole, but only give us an idea about a small portion of Armenians.

Armenian was much bigger before the genocide in East turkey , it also was part of northern Iran and other areas. And yea there's more looks that is included but u could post only 20 pics in a opening thread and that alone took alot of time because the apricities constant freezing. I could have posted 200 Armenians to show even more diversity but there isn't time and that wasn't the thread for that. The thread with endless posting of Armenians was done by me , sikeliot and Armenian user arsen in the anthropology section go there if you want to see thousands more :thumb001:

[Armenian Bishop]

Armenian was much bigger before the genocide in East turkey , it also was part of northern Iran and other areas. And yea there's more looks that is included but u could post only 20 pics in a opening thread and that alone took alot of time because the apricities constant freezing. I could have posted 200 Armenians to show even more diversity but there isn't time and that wasn't the thread for that. The thread with endless posting of Armenians was done by me , sikeliot and Armenian user arsen in the anthropology section go there if you want to see thousands more :thumb001:

Okay, I understand, and you did it right. I'm aware of several threads with that kind of endless postings of Armenians. And, I know that you used them as isolated examples. I think you know this matter very well.

As for the larger landscape of Armenia, prior to the genocide (a century ago), it shouldn't be underestimated, because the descendants of Armenians from the much vaster area, beyond Armenia's present day borders, make up a large portion of the present day Armenian population. Then there is an additional diversification, because of the diaspora migrations.

R1b is the most common haplogroup among Armenians. My ancestors came from the area West of Lake Van. The Southern European overlap in my DNA Composition is noteworthy. 23andMe identified 67.2% of my DNA results as Southern European. This was also the case with my cousin's daughter.

[Columella]

Soloyan why ?

She is cute.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Israel/jewish imo.

[aherne]

Azeri Turks
Georgians
Kurds
Anatolian Turks