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StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 02:32 AM
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi forces threatened on Wednesday to resume operations to capture northern Kurdish-held territory after accusing authorities there of delaying handing over control of Iraq’s borders with Turkey, Iran and Syria.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on Friday declared a pause in an offensive that began on Oct. 16 to take over areas claimed both by his government and the autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG).

Abadi ordered economic and military retaliation against the KRG after Iraqi Kurds voted for independence in September in a referendum that Baghdad declared illegal.

He said the truce was meant to allow Iraqi troops to deploy without hindrance in the disputed areas and at the international borders.

Kurdish officials said on Tuesday they were willing to allow Iraqi “oversight” at the border but said the KRG had to remain in control of crossings into the Kurdish region.

The Iraqi Joint Operations Command accused the KRG of using the talks to “buy time” in order to strengthen Kurdish lines.

“During the negotiations, the (Kurdish) region was moving its forces and building new defenses,” the Iraqi statement said. “We will not allow it; the federal forces are mandated to secure (the disputed) areas and borders.”

The Kurdish Peshmerga fighters’ command accused Iraqi forces of massing weapons and threatening force to resolve “domestic political differences.”

Iraq’s entire land border with Turkey is located inside the Kurdish autonomous region, and has been controlled by the Kurds since before the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003.

Iraqis troops on Tuesday set up positions between the Turkish and the Iraqi Kurdish checkpoints at the Habur border crossing between the Turkish town of Silopi and the Iraqi town of Zakho. That meant vehicles crossing the border were subject to three checks.

Control of the border area is of crucial importance for the landlocked Kurdish region. An oil pipeline runs from northern Iraq into Turkey, carrying crude exports which are the Kurds’ in principal source of funds.

crazyladybutterfly
11-02-2017, 02:41 AM
wouldnt be surprised if they ruin everything , start to fight seriously each other and isis regains territory.

StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 02:49 AM
wouldnt be surprised if they ruin everything , start to fight seriously each other and isis regains territory.

ISIS is heavily weakened, because the Sunni Arab tribes fought ISIS. ISIS is very weak and can only return back to a rogue terrorist organization. In fact if Kurdistan happened, ISIS individuals will begin to use the mountains, and it will make Kurdistan into Afghanistan round two. However ISIS originally played in favor for the Kurds, because they were able to take Kirkuk away from Iraq. However once ISIS has been defeated, Iraq regained Kirkuk. The Kurds did have allies but they alienated those allies especially with the oil pipe line to go to Israel. This why the Gulf nations actually stood now with Iraq, because an oil pipe to Israel, will crush their markets. Not to mention the West has also betrayed them, mainly the U.S, and the reason is the U.S does not want to go into Iraq for a third time directly this time, especially as their is no geopolitical importance and not to mention, it's relationship with Turkey is quite vital, since Turkey is good ally to have against Russia. As for ISIS such group will never become powerful. Al-Abadi has already reconciled with Sunni Arab tribes in the Western regions, and also North Iraqi Arabs.

crazyladybutterfly
11-02-2017, 02:54 AM
ISIS is heavily weakened, because the Sunni Arab tribes fought ISIS. ISIS is very weak and can only return back to a rogue terrorist organization. In fact if Kurdistan happened, ISIS individuals will begin to use the mountains, and it will make Kurdistan into Afghanistan round two. However ISIS originally played in favor for the Kurds, because they were able to take Kirkuk away from Iraq. However once ISIS has been defeated, Iraq regained Kirkuk. The Kurds did have allies but they alienated those allies especially with the oil pipe line to go to Israel. This why the Gulf nations actually stood now with Iraq, because an oil pipe to Israel, will crush their markets. Not to mention the West has also betrayed them, mainly the U.S, and the reason is the U.S does not want to go into Iraq for a third time directly this time, especially as their is no geopolitical importance and not to mention, it's relationship with Turkey is quite vital, since Turkey is good ally to have against Russia. As for ISIS such group will never become powerful. Al-Abadi has already reconciled with Sunni Arab tribes in the Western regions, and also North Iraqi Arabs.


In fact if Kurdistan happened, ISIS individuals will begin to use the mountains, and it will make Kurdistan into Afghanistan round two.

how????

StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 03:00 AM
how????

They will just go in the mountains and bribe local leaders, or take over areas.

crazyladybutterfly
11-02-2017, 03:01 AM
They will just go in the mountains and bribe local leaders, or take over areas.

and they cant do that with the iraqi government?

StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 03:07 AM
and they cant do that with the iraqi government?

No, especially not with Al-Abadi who is fighting corruption. However in the past with the Nour Al-Maliki government, there in fact was evidence that he did allow ISIS to cultivate in Iraq, for his own gain. At the same time Nour Al-Maliki had alienated the regions of Northern and Western Iraq, and this why the Western regions even wanted to declare independence, there was heavy fighting between the tribes and the Iraqi military. Knowing that he can't subdue them, he let ISIS enter. He even said that the Western regions will turn into Ashes, which incriminates him . ISIS victims have mostly been Sunni Arab tribes from the Western regions. Al-Abadi is different he is trying to rebuild his broken nation and try to unify it in all aspects. However ISIS and it remains can form an alliance with corrupt individuals in the North, but it will not be very powerful. As the Northern and Western regions have been liberated, ISIS will remain a dark figment of history.

crazyladybutterfly
11-02-2017, 03:18 AM
No, especially not with Al-Abadi who is fighting corruption. However in the past with the Nour Al-Maliki government, there in fact was evidence that he did allow ISIS to cultivate in Iraq, for his own gain. At the same time Nour Al-Maliki had alienated the regions of Northern and Western Iraq, and this why the Western regions even wanted to declare independence, there was heavy fighting between the tribes and the Iraqi military. Knowing that he can't subdue them, he let ISIS enter. He even said that the Western regions will turn into Ashes, which incriminates him . ISIS victims have mostly been Sunni Arab tribes from the Western regions. Al-Abadi is different he is trying to rebuild his broken nation and try to unify it in all aspects. However ISIS and it remains can form an alliance with corrupt individuals in the North, but it will not be very powerful. As the Northern and Western regions have been liberated, ISIS will remain a dark figment of history.


. ISIS victims have mostly been Sunni Arab tribes from the Western regions.
can you tell me more about this?

StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 03:22 AM
can you tell me more about this?

ISIS has been attacking many Sunni Arab tribes, because they did not agree with it's ideology, so in ISIS eyes they should suffer. They also only operated mostly in Sunni Arab regions. ISIS despite being called Sunni organization, it actually is not, because it waged an endless war on the Sunni Arab population, until they revolted against their tyranny. Once that happened ISIS began to lose it's grounds, alongside the fighting with the Iraqi and Syrian military. ISIS originally helped the idea that Iraq can be balkanized but this failed.

crazyladybutterfly
11-02-2017, 03:27 AM
ISIS has been attacking many Sunni Arab tribes, because they did not agree with it's ideology, so in ISIS eyes they should suffer. They also only operated mostly in Sunni Arab regions. ISIS despite being called Sunni organization, it actually is not, because it waged an endless war on the Sunni Arab population, until they revolted against their tyranny. Once that happened ISIS began to lose it's grounds, alongside the fighting with the Iraqi and Syrian military. ISIS originally helped the idea that Iraq can be balkanized but this failed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/world/middleeast/iraq-isis-sunni.html
do you know sunni iraqis that can dismiss what is written here?

StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 03:32 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/world/middleeast/iraq-isis-sunni.html
do you know sunni iraqis that can dismiss what is written here?

Well alienation is still there, but bridges are being built. It will take time to heal the wounds that have been opened by the Anglo-Americans and European lackeys. Al-Abadi is the best politicians to date so far.

crazyladybutterfly
11-02-2017, 03:50 AM
Well alienation is still there, but bridges are being built. It will take time to heal the wounds that have been opened by the Anglo-Americans and European lackeys. Al-Abadi is the best politicians to date so far.

where do you get all these informations?

StonyArabia
11-02-2017, 04:07 PM
where do you get all these informations?

Iraqi news outlets