Classify Austrian MEP Barbara Kappel, and where can she pass?

[Tooting Carmen]

An interesting example of how Austrians can look like Italians as well as the reverse.
https://www.digitalagendaintergroup.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/csm_kappel_a81a59a568.jpghttp://www.fpoe.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Setkarte_Kappel_DR1.jpghttp://diepresse.com/images/uploads/5/b/6/4695478/85356ECE-7937-46EA-B91E-12EDFD1C0451_v0_h.jpg

[Sikeliot]

In the first two she can even pass in Cyprus. Is she Jewish?

[Tooting Carmen]

Is she Jewish?

Not at all LOL. Why is it so hard to believe that a country near Italy and the former Yugoslavia can have some dark types?

[Veslan]

Looks Dinaric.

[Erronkari]

Dinarid mostly.

I think she looks typical in balkan countries.

[nafz]

This proves that central Europeans can also look Mediterranean. Also proves that the north - south gap in countries like Italy is not as vast as portrayed.

[Aenar]

Slightly alpinized Dinarid or Dinaro-Med.

[JMack]

Dinaric.

[MinervaItalica]

Can look like Italians? She can pass in many countries in Europe.

I still have to find an "Italian look".

[Tooting Carmen]

Can look like Italians? She can pass in many countries in Europe.

I still have to find an "Italian look".

She has a Dinaro-Med look which is much more associated with Italy than Austria. My point is that anthrotards and Nordicists always love to say how Italy is next to Austria and not far from Germany and thus full of blue-eyed blondes, when in actual fact their Northern neighbours can look Mediterranean too.

[JMack]

She has a Dinaro-Med look which is much more associated with Italy than Austria. My point is that anthrotards and Nordicists always love to say how Italy is next to Austria and not far from Germany and thus full of blue-eyed blondes, when in actual fact their Northern neighbours can look Mediterranean too.

Yes. But some Italians can also look Nordic or Northern European in general. I have a cousin (I posted her today btw) who could easily be German and even Scandinavian.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yes. But some Italians can also look Nordic or Northern European in general.

Yes I know that. But my point is that the overlap between Austria and Italy is because some Austrians can look Mediterranean AS WELL AS because some Italians can look Germanic, and this is often overlooked.

[MinervaItalica]

Yes. But some Italians can also look Nordic or Northern European in general. I have a cousin (I posted her today btw) who could easily be German and even Scandinavian.

Italy has indeed many types, it's hard to define a common "Italian look"

[Tooting Carmen]

Italy has indeed many types, it's hard to define a common "Italian look"

Perhaps it is more accurate to talk of an "Italian spectrum" instead, ranging from types like Massimo Ambrosini and Mirco Bergamasco to Fabio Quagliarella and Enrico Lo Verso.

[nafz]

Yes I know that. But my point is that the overlap between Austria and Italy is because some Austrians can look Mediterranean AS WELL AS because some Italians can look Germanic, and this is often overlooked.

Overall though the overlap has to with the lighter Nordic types.
In other words there are more Italians that can pass as non dark Austrians than Austrians that can pass as dark Italians. I am not talking absolute numbers but percentage wise.

[JMack]

Italy has indeed many types, it's hard to define a common "Italian look"

Maybe someone like Totti would be the most stereotypical. I think he can pass as a common type all around Italy.

[Tooting Carmen]

Overall though the overlap has to with the lighter Nordic types.
In other words there are more Italians that can pass as light Austrians than Austrians that can pass as dark Italians. I am not talking absolute numbers but percentage wise.

OK I agree there, but my point is the overlap is not just in one direction.

[Percivalle]

Overall though the overlap has to with the lighter Nordic types.
In other words there are more Italians that can pass as light Austrians than Austrians that can pass as dark Italians. I am not talking absolute numbers but percentage wise.

Austrians to pass in Italy don't need to be dark.

[Tooting Carmen]

Maybe someone like Totti would be the most stereotypical. I think he can pass as a common type all around Italy.

I'd say Paolo Maldini comes more to mind in that respect.

[nafz]

Austrians to pass in Italy don't need to be dark.

Sure and Italians to pass in Austria don't need to be light, that's the point of the thread.

[Percivalle]

Sure and Italians to pass in Austria don't need to be light, that's the point of the thread.

Then I agree with that.

[Erronkari]

I've always thought that this former italian soccer player Marco Simone, could fit very well in Central Europe (even, I could be wrong... IDK).

https://i.imgur.com/fXcJKOW.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/7pPEdk7.jpg

[JMack]

I'd say Paolo Maldini comes more to mind in that respect.

Maldini looks Iugoslavian to me.

[Percivalle]

Maldini looks Iugoslavian to me.

Not really. But I agree with you that Totti is more panitalian than Maldini.

[Token]

She looks Northeastern Italian and this is not surprising, there's a clear continuum that runs from Triveneto to Austria intermediated by Tyrol.

[Tooting Carmen]

But I agree with you that Totti is more panitalian than Maldini.

In what way?

[Percivalle]

In what way?

Totti? That can pass better than Maldini in more places in Italy.

[Tooting Carmen]

Totti? That can pass better than Maldini in more places in Italy.

Does Maldini look too Southern or something then?

[Percivalle]

Does Maldini look too Southern or something then?

No, I didn't mean that. In my opinion Maldini has more an "uncommon" vibe than Totti, and this is not related to their phenotypes.

[Sikeliot]

Not at all LOL. Why is it so hard to believe that a country near Italy and the former Yugoslavia can have some dark types?


Yugoslavs are not dark, and neither are northern Italians. She looks like a far southern Italian or an Ashkenazi.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yugoslavs are not dark, and neither are northern Italians. She looks like a far southern Italian or an Ashkenazi.

There are plenty of fully native Northern Italians, Croats, Serbs and even some Slovenes who look wholesale Med.

[Sikeliot]

you expect us to believe austrians and italians look so close yet bulgarians and greeks so different?

[Tooting Carmen]

you expect us to believe austrians and italians look so close yet bulgarians and greeks so different?

Both pairings have some overlap, but relative to the fact that they involve neighbouring European countries yes they are quite different in both cases.

[Sikeliot]

Both pairings have some overlap, but relative to the fact that they involve neighbouring European countries yes they are quite different in both cases.


My point about the woman in this thread is she would be on the exotic end for Italy, so it should not surprise you she is very atypical for Austria. She might even fit in the Levant.

[nafz]

Yugoslavs are not dark, and neither are northern Italians. She looks like a far southern Italian or an Ashkenazi.

I disagree. She looks Dinaro-Med as others said. This look is found all over Italy, north and south. Also present in all of the former Yugoslav countries, Romania, Albania and Greece. Also present but not abundant in south Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

[Sikeliot]

I disagree. She looks Dinaro-Med as others said. This look is found all over Italy, north and south. Also present in all of the former Yugoslav countries, Romania, Albania and Greece. Also present but not abundant in south Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

I think her look is very exotic.

[Tooting Carmen]

I think her look is very exotic.

'Exotic' for Italy would be Lucianna de Falco or Nancy Dell'Ollio, not her.

[nafz]

I think her look is very exotic.

Perhaps exotic compared to the stereotypical Nordic Germanic look.

[JMack]

I disagree. She looks Dinaro-Med as others said. This look is found all over Italy, north and south. Also present in all of the former Yugoslav countries, Romania, Albania and Greece. Also present but not abundant in south Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

This. But I think she's more pure Dinaric than Dinaro-Med.

[nafz]

Austrian Conchita Wurst sans beard. Looks like she just stepped out of a Sicilian Nightblub :)

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/3e/20/ba/3e20ba0c17a07df907d0ca27f9606e86--amazing-people-beautiful-people.jpg

[Percivalle]

There are plenty of fully native Northern Italians, Croats, Serbs and even some Slovenes who look wholesale Med.

Alexander Van der Bellen, Austrian politician of Baltic German, Russian German, Dutch, and Estonian descent.

https://austria-forum.org/attach/Biographien/Van_der_Bellen%2C_Alexander/Van_der_Bellen.jpg

[kleenex]

My point about the woman in this thread is she would be on the exotic end for Italy, so it should not surprise you she is very atypical for Austria. She might even fit in the Levant.

I don't think she looks exotic at all. She looks like a typical dinarid med and would fit in mainland Greece as well but not the Levant.

[Tooting Carmen]

I still find it funny how Sikeliot thinks it is strange when darker types from parts of Europe other than Southern Italy are posted.

[Xacal]

Dinaro-Med, looks Italian

[Odin]

Dinaro-Med. Pass in Southern Europe.

[Sikeliot]

I still find it funny how Sikeliot thinks it is strange when darker types from parts of Europe other than Southern Italy are posted.

It does not surprise me for Southern Europe. Most of the time if Austrians and Italians look alike it is due to the latter having Germanic types, not Austrians looking darker.

[JohnSmith]

Typical Dinarid,, fits in Italy,Austria, or Switzerland the best.

[Anglojew]

In the first two she can even pass in Cyprus. Is she Jewish?

A lot of Jews assimilated before or during the Nazi regime. Literally 100,000s in Greater Germany since the time of the Frankists if not before. A great example of an assimilated Jewish family is the Bleibtreu family. The Bleibtreu's converted from Judaism in the 18th century (from memory) but you can clearly see Moritz Bleibtreu looks very Jewish;

http://7wallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/4_Moritz-Bleibtreu.jpg

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos/moritz-bleibtreu-im-playboy-interview-es-gibt-momente-da-willst-du-dein-kind-an-die-wand-klatsch-33915422-31841316/Bild/3.bild.jpg
They're probably Frankists.

[Sikeliot]

A lot of Jews assimilated before or during the Nazi regime.

That is my guess. I would guess she is part Jewish whether knowingly or not.

[MinervaItalica]

Dinaro-Med, looks Italian

She looks what she is.

[nafz]

A lot of Jews assimilated before or during the Nazi regime. Literally 100,000s in Greater Germany since the time of the Frankists if not before. A great example of an assimilated Jewish family is the Bleibtreu family. The Bleibtreu's converted from Judaism in the 18th century (from memory) but you can clearly see Moritz Bleibtreu looks very Jewish;

http://7wallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/4_Moritz-Bleibtreu.jpg

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos/moritz-bleibtreu-im-playboy-interview-es-gibt-momente-da-willst-du-dein-kind-an-die-wand-klatsch-33915422-31841316/Bild/3.bild.jpg
They're probably Frankists.


That is my guess. I would guess she is part Jewish whether knowingly or not.

The "must be Jewish" justification for every single dark German and Austrian does not stand. The woman is Dinaro Med as most have users have classified her as such.

[Newsboy]

Dinaro-Med

Passable in Italy, Greece, Balkans, and perhaps even Cyprus.

[Rafael Passoni]

Dinaro-med