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Adoptee
11-03-2017, 10:04 PM
I'm going to be posting all my GEDmatch ancestry calculator results in this thread and if anyone wants to take a crack at guessing my origins from the results they can.

MDLP K11 Modern


Population
African -
Amerindian 0.53
ASI -
Basal 3.36
Iran-Mesolithic 1.65
Neolithic 36.49
Oceanic 0.73
EHG 24.70
SEA -
Siberian -
WHG 32.54


MDLP K23b

Population
Amerindian 0.24
Ancestral_Altaic 3.74
South_Central_Asian 6.17
Arctic -
South_Indian 1.18
Australoid 0.66
Austronesian -
Caucasian 21.49
Archaic_Human -
East_African -
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 29.80
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.10
Archaic_African -
Near_East 0.47
North_African 2.72
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 33.38


Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 4.49
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.31
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.25
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.03
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 5.74
French 5.26
Iberian 13.48
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.73
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 19.09
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 15.79
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.50
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.23
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.79
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.89
West_Med 0.38


If you want to see any particular calculator results just tell me and I'll post them.

Adoptee
11-03-2017, 10:10 PM
I don't know if it's just the tests themselves but the GedrosiaDNA calcs all give me weird results

Near East Neolithic K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 43.23
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 15.18
3 EHG 14.96
4 SHG_WHG 14.07
5 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 5.33
6 NATUFIAN 4.36
7 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 1.33
8 PAPUAN 0.79
9 KARITIANA 0.68
10 SE_ASIAN 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.1
2 French 4.55
3 Hungarian 4.6
4 Romanian 6.09
5 English 7.61
6 Czech 7.99
7 Scottish 8.09
8 Bulgarian 8.47
9 Ukrainian 8.79
10 Norwegian 11.03
11 Icelandic 11.14
12 Albanian 14.29
13 Russian 14.52
14 Finnish 15.38
15 Greek 16.25
16 Estonian 16.44
17 Lithuanian 17.31
18 Europe_LNBA 19.12
19 Italian_South 20.56
20 Sicilian 20.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.2% Hungarian + 7.8% Armenia_ChL @ 1.72
2 88.5% French + 11.5% Lezgin @ 2.01
3 91.6% French + 8.4% Pashtun_Afghan @ 2.03
4 96.1% French + 3.9% Iran_LN @ 2.04
5 96.1% French + 3.9% Iran_N @ 2.04
6 90% French + 10% Tajik @ 2.07
7 92.8% French + 7.2% Kalash @ 2.12
8 92.5% Hungarian + 7.5% Armenia_MLBA @ 2.14
9 51% Bulgarian + 49% Ukrainian @ 2.15
10 93.4% Hungarian + 6.6% Anatolia_ChL @ 2.16
11 86.8% Czech + 13.2% Armenia_ChL @ 2.17
12 93.8% French + 6.2% Brahui @ 2.18
13 93.6% French + 6.4% Makrani @ 2.2
14 93.7% French + 6.3% Balochi @ 2.2
15 88.4% French + 11.6% Chechen @ 2.22
16 92.3% French + 7.7% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 2.31
17 92.8% French + 7.2% Iranian_Bandari @ 2.33
18 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% Steppe_IA @ 2.34
19 57.2% Bulgarian + 42.8% Icelandic @ 2.34
20 88.2% French + 11.8% Kumyk @ 2.35

de Burgh II
11-03-2017, 10:19 PM
Your k36 results show you are mostly Northwest Euro with slight West Asian admixture

Namely, Northern English, Northwestern French and possibly distant Greek and Dutch ancestry.
Adoptee

England_Cumberland 59.75
France_NorthWest 20.70
Central_Dutch 6.65
GR_Istanbul 5.30
GR_Thrace 2.95
South_Dutch 2.60
France_SW 1.45
Australia_Abo 0.35
Melanesian 0.10
Northern_Ireland 0.05
British_mixed 0.05
NW-England 0.05

Adoptee
11-03-2017, 10:43 PM
Your k36 results show you are mostly Northwest Euro with slight West Asian admixture

Namely, Northern English, Northwestern French and possibly distant Greek and Dutch ancestry.

So I'm probably French and/or English? I mean, being French or English would make sense living in Canada

de Burgh II
11-03-2017, 10:48 PM
So I'm probably French and/or English? I mean, being French or English would make sense living in Canada

More or less, Canada was built on an Anglo-French populace that influenced its position as a western country founded on Western European ideals stemming all the way back to colonial times. So you may be both; of French and British ancestry mostly since you come out mostly Northwestern Euro.

RN97
11-03-2017, 10:50 PM
Post ur eurogenes K15 with oracles.

Adoptee
11-03-2017, 10:52 PM
Post ur eurogenes K15 with oracles.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.95
2 Atlantic 27
3 West_Med 11
4 Baltic 8.59
5 Eastern_Euro 5.31
6 West_Asian 4.95
7 East_Med 2.67
8 South_Asian 1.79
9 Red_Sea 0.71
10 Oceanian 0.62
11 Amerindian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 3.85
2 Southeast_English 4.78
3 Orcadian 5.47
4 Irish 6.25
5 North_Dutch 6.36
6 West_Scottish 6.44
7 West_German 6.68
8 Danish 7.24
9 South_Dutch 7.29
10 North_German 8.08
11 Norwegian 9.27
12 West_Norwegian 9.47
13 French 9.5
14 Swedish 10.66
15 North_Swedish 14.07
16 East_German 14.65
17 Spanish_Galicia 17.03
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.16
19 Portuguese 18.17
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.6% Orcadian + 9.4% Sardinian @ 2.77
2 65.9% Orcadian + 34.1% French @ 2.77
3 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% North_Italian @ 2.8
4 78.2% Orcadian + 21.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.8
5 85.5% Orcadian + 14.5% Tuscan @ 2.96
6 79.7% Orcadian + 20.3% Portuguese @ 2.99
7 79.2% Orcadian + 20.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.2
8 89.4% Orcadian + 10.6% South_Italian @ 3.22
9 81.4% Orcadian + 18.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.22
10 80.4% Orcadian + 19.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.24
11 87.2% Orcadian + 12.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.24
12 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.27
13 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% Central_Greek @ 3.31
14 81.7% Orcadian + 18.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.35
15 88% Orcadian + 12% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.38
16 88.5% Orcadian + 11.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.4
17 84.3% Orcadian + 15.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.42
18 57.4% Orcadian + 42.6% West_German @ 3.43
19 90.4% Orcadian + 9.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.43
20 77.2% Southwest_English + 22.8% West_German @ 3.46

RN97
11-03-2017, 10:55 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.95
2 Atlantic 27
3 West_Med 11
4 Baltic 8.59
5 Eastern_Euro 5.31
6 West_Asian 4.95
7 East_Med 2.67
8 South_Asian 1.79
9 Red_Sea 0.71
10 Oceanian 0.62
11 Amerindian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 3.85
2 Southeast_English 4.78
3 Orcadian 5.47
4 Irish 6.25
5 North_Dutch 6.36
6 West_Scottish 6.44
7 West_German 6.68
8 Danish 7.24
9 South_Dutch 7.29
10 North_German 8.08
11 Norwegian 9.27
12 West_Norwegian 9.47
13 French 9.5
14 Swedish 10.66
15 North_Swedish 14.07
16 East_German 14.65
17 Spanish_Galicia 17.03
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.16
19 Portuguese 18.17
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.6% Orcadian + 9.4% Sardinian @ 2.77
2 65.9% Orcadian + 34.1% French @ 2.77
3 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% North_Italian @ 2.8
4 78.2% Orcadian + 21.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.8
5 85.5% Orcadian + 14.5% Tuscan @ 2.96
6 79.7% Orcadian + 20.3% Portuguese @ 2.99
7 79.2% Orcadian + 20.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.2
8 89.4% Orcadian + 10.6% South_Italian @ 3.22
9 81.4% Orcadian + 18.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.22
10 80.4% Orcadian + 19.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.24
11 87.2% Orcadian + 12.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.24
12 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.27
13 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% Central_Greek @ 3.31
14 81.7% Orcadian + 18.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.35
15 88% Orcadian + 12% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.38
16 88.5% Orcadian + 11.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.4
17 84.3% Orcadian + 15.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.42
18 57.4% Orcadian + 42.6% West_German @ 3.43
19 90.4% Orcadian + 9.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.43
20 77.2% Southwest_English + 22.8% West_German @ 3.46

I am about 90% sure your ancestry is from the British isles. Here are two English results for comparasion:
1.
1) North_Sea 34.34
2) Atlantic 24.73
3) Baltic 11.82
4) Eastern_Euro 8.91
5) West_Med 8.52
6) East_Med 4.31
7) West_Asian 3.67
8) Red_Sea 1.7
9) South_Asian 0.89
10) Sub-Saharan 0.56
11) Oceanian 0.41
12) Amerindian 0.13
13) Northeast_African 0.01

1) German 3.3
2) Dutch 3.56
3) Southeast_English 5.29
4) Southwest_English 5.42
5) Danish 5.5
6) Irish 6.33
7) Orcadian 6.56
8) West_Scottish 6.62
9) Norwegian 6.79
10) Swedish 7.4
11) French 9.46
12) North_Swedish 9.72
13) Hungarian 13.79
14) Austrian 14
15) Southwest_Finnish 14.05
16) Finnish 16.99
17) Spanish_Galicia 17.29
18) Serbian 17.45
19) Spanish_Cataluna 17.64
20) Portuguese 18.5

1) 92.4% Dutch + 7.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.33
2) 94% Dutch + 6% Palestinian @ 1.34
3) 94.1% Dutch + 5.9% Samaritan @ 1.37
4) 93.9% Dutch + 6.1% Jordanian @ 1.41
5) 93.7% Dutch + 6.3% Syrian @ 1.42
6) 93.9% Dutch + 6.1% Bedouin @ 1.43
7) 94.3% Dutch + 5.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.44
8) 93.7% Dutch + 6.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.46
9) 94.3% Dutch + 5.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.46
10) 93.6% Dutch + 6.4% Cyprian @ 1.47

2.
1) North_Sea 37.92
2) Atlantic 25.18
3) Baltic 12.04
4) West_Med 9.36
5) Eastern_Euro 8.41
6) East_Med 4.38
7) Red_Sea 1.35
8) South_Asian 0.68
9) Amerindian 0.44
10) West_Asian 0.25

1) Dutch 4.15
2) Orcadian 5.13
3) Danish 5.79
4) Norwegian 5.8
5) Southeast_English 5.88
6) Southwest_English 6
7) West_Scottish 6.5
8) Irish 6.58
9) German 6.9
10) Swedish 6.91
11) North_Swedish 10.05
12) French 11.58
13) Southwest_Finnish 15.48
14) Hungarian 16.59
15) Austrian 17.3
16) Finnish 18.32
17) Spanish_Galicia 18.75
18) Spanish_Cataluna 19.26
19) Portuguese 20.07
20) Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.47

1) 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.22
2) 80.9% Norwegian + 19.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.29
3) 80% Norwegian + 20% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
4) 80.7% Norwegian + 19.3% Portuguese @ 3.34
5) 81.9% Norwegian + 18.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.34
6) 79.6% Norwegian + 20.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.36
7) 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.4
8) 83.3% Norwegian + 16.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.45
9) 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.53
10) 70.5% Norwegian + 29.5% French @ 3.54
11) 84.6% Norwegian + 15.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.58
12) 82.8% Norwegian + 17.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.59
13) 92.9% Orcadian + 7.1% Sardinian @ 3.62
14) 83.6% Orcadian + 16.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.63
15) 87.2% Orcadian + 12.8% North_Italian @ 3.69
16) 92.9% Orcadian + 7.1% Algerian @ 3.76
17) 85% Orcadian + 15% Portuguese @ 3.77
18) 78.7% Swedish + 21.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.77
19) 89.2% Orcadian + 10.8% Tuscan @ 3.78
20) 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% Moroccan @ 3.78

here is a scottish one:
1 North_Sea 32.5
2 Atlantic 30.38
3 Eastern_Euro 13.12
4 Baltic 8.92
5 West_Med 8.38
6 West_Asian 2.94
7 East_Med 1.43
8 Amerindian 0.97
9 Northeast_African 0.76
10 South_Asian 0.51
11 Red_Sea 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 5.04
2 Southeast_English 5.13
3 Southwest_English 5.89
4 West_Scottish 5.92
5 Irish 5.97
6 Dutch 6.67
7 German 6.84
8 Orcadian 8.21
9 Norwegian 9.72
10 Swedish 11.18
11 French 11.51
12 North_Swedish 11.91
13 Southwest_Finnish 14.92
14 Austrian 15.59
15 Hungarian 17.41
16 Spanish_Cataluna 18.02
17 Finnish 18.69
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.9
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.37
20 Portuguese 19.52


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.5% Danish + 13.5% Southwest_French @ 3.97
2 92.3% Southeast_English + 7.7% Chuvash @ 3.97
3 89.2% Danish + 10.8% French_Basque @ 3.99
4 87.8% Danish + 12.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.1
5 87.1% Danish + 12.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.11
6 88.3% Danish + 11.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.14
7 88% Danish + 12% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.16
8 89% Danish + 11% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.17
9 90.2% Southeast_English + 9.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.22
10 91.7% Southeast_English + 8.3% Erzya @ 4.3
11 88.7% Danish + 11.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.33
12 88.6% Danish + 11.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.34
13 87.3% Danish + 12.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.34
14 95% Danish + 5% Sardinian @ 4.38
15 89.2% Southeast_English + 10.8% East_Finnish @ 4.38
16 88.6% Danish + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.41
17 88.8% Danish + 11.2% Portuguese @ 4.43
18 86.3% Danish + 13.7% Austrian @ 4.45
19 91.4% Danish + 8.6% North_Italian @ 4.52
20 94.6% Danish + 5.4% Chuvash @ 4.53

Adoptee
11-03-2017, 10:59 PM
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Thanks, that's very helpful. So it looks like I'm closer to English than Scottish, no?

de Burgh II
11-03-2017, 11:13 PM
I took the opportunity to enter your k36 results in this program that has a robust ample size for what it is worth with regional differences in British Isles nationalities; you are more Southern shifted; indicating either Welsh or English ancestry with some Northwestern french ancestry in the mix; showing you have a strong autosomal pull with Normans.

https://s1.postimg.org/1vgy4z8vmn/Untitled.jpg

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Adoptee
11-03-2017, 11:39 PM
I took the opportunity to enter your k36 results in this program that has a robust ample size for what it is worth with regional differences in British Isles nationalities; you are more Southern shifted; indicating either Welsh or English ancestry with some Northwestern french ancestry in the mix; showing you have a strong autosomal pull with Normans.

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So do you think it's most likely I'm a mix? or could I be one or the other and if so, which is most likely, French or English, in your opinion?

de Burgh II
11-03-2017, 11:53 PM
So do you think it's most likely I'm a mix? or could I be one or the other and if so, which is most likely, French or English, in your opinion?

I would say you are most likely a mix between French and English. If you were mostly English hypothetically, the map would have a higher number/value of genetic relatedness only among the British Isles; that would ignore similar values among mainland Europe. Thus, your genetic relatedness would be most peculiar to the Isles; and no where else.

Nevertheless, your dna has similar values among both the British Isles and NW France. By utilizing deductive reasoning with this empirical data, it is most logical to say you are both English and French in varying degrees that makes up the bulk of your ancestry. :nod:

Adoptee
11-04-2017, 01:37 AM
I would say you are most likely a mix between French and English. If you were mostly English hypothetically, the map would have a higher number/value of genetic relatedness only among the British Isles; that would ignore similar values among mainland Europe. Thus, your genetic relatedness would be most peculiar to the Isles; and no where else.

Nevertheless, your dna has similar values among both the British Isles and NW France. By utilizing deductive reasoning with this empirical data, it is most logical to say you are both English and French in varying degrees that makes up the bulk of your ancestry. :nod:

Out of curiosity I ran the results of a person from France through the same map program and got this:

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It's at least somewhat similar