Nogay (Turkic) GEDmatch results

[Leto]

Kit M222573

Dodecad K7b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.04
2 Atlantic_Baltic 24.96
3 Siberian 15.7
4 Southern 13.19
5 East_Asian 9.45
6 South_Asian 0.66

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 1.18

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 30.48
2 Siberian 13.81
3 East_Med 13.45
4 Baltic 11.97
5 North_Atlantic 9.34
6 East_Asian 9.16
7 West_Med 7.11
8 South_Asian 2.69
9 Amerindian 1.4
10 Sub-Saharan 0.38
11 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogay 3.56

puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 30.89
2 SW_Europe 18.53
3 NE_Europe 17.42
4 Siberia 14.34
5 NE_Asia 7.97
6 SW_Asia 4.48
7 SE_Asia 2.04
8 South_Asia 1.6
9 Americas 1.36
10 South_Africa 0.87
11 East_Africa 0.27
12 Oceania 0.21
13 West_Africa 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogay 4.67

Is this how the Kipchaks looked in terms of genetics?

[Hudayar]

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.42
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.45
3 Tungus-Altaic 12.02
4 South_Central_Asian 11.09
5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.95
6 South_East_Asian 5.11
7 East_Siberian 4.66
8 South_Indian 1.56
9 European_Early_Farmers 1.50
10 Paleo_Siberian 1.32


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Nogai_ @ 5.364181
2 Cirkassian_ @ 16.260609
3 Turk_Aydin_ @ 16.318899
4 Circassian_ @ 16.820374
5 Kabardin_ @ 16.973265
6 North_Ossetian_ @ 17.351917
7 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 17.587435
8 Balkar_ @ 17.620770
9 Kumyk_ @ 17.627396
10 Stalskoe_Kumyk_ @ 18.064053
11 Adygei_ @ 18.276789
12 Turk_ @ 18.663561
13 Chechen_ @ 19.126850
14 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 19.411879
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 19.672594
16 Ossetian_ @ 19.782129
17 Azov_Greek_ @ 20.412374
18 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 20.686903
19 Tabassaran_ @ 21.282331
20 Lak_ @ 21.448093

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogai_ +50% Nogai_ @ 5.364181


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian_Svan_ +25% Moksha_ +25% Mongolian_ @ 2.763897


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Moksha_ + Mongolian_ @ 2.763897
2 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Moksha_ + Mongolian_ @ 2.766404
3 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Kalmyk_ + Moksha_ @ 2.785887
4 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kalmyk_ + Moksha_ @ 2.790222
5 Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Moksha_ + Mongolian_ @ 2.974745
6 Abkhasian_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Moksha_ + Mongolian_ @ 2.992524
7 Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kalmyk_ + Moksha_ @ 2.997036
8 Abkhasian_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kalmyk_ + Moksha_ @ 3.022679
9 Abkhasian_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Moksha_ + Mongolian_ @ 3.110742
10 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Moksha_ + Mongol_Khalkha_ @ 3.142343
11 Abkhasian_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Kalmyk_ + Moksha_ @ 3.145510
12 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kyrgyz_ + Tatar_Kryashen_ @ 3.209655
13 Erzya_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Mongolian_ @ 3.216365
14 Erzya_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kalmyk_ @ 3.217525
15 Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kyrgyz_ + Tatar_Kryashen_ @ 3.220045
16 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Mongolian_ + Russian-Ural_ @ 3.228903
17 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Moksha_ + Mongol_Khalkha_ @ 3.235864
18 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Mongol_Khalkha_ + Russian-Ural_ @ 3.247077
19 Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Mongolian_ + Russian-Ural_ @ 3.249313
20 Georgian_Svan_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Kalmyk_ + Russian-Ural_ @ 3.268740

Done.

Elapsed time 29.7689 seconds.

[Hudayar]

also we can't say anything about what Kipchaks looked like in terms of genetics. they're very diverse population. They range from finno ugric to 80% mongoloid. This nogai guy is only 22% mongoloid. His Turkic ancestry appears as Mongolian/Kyrgyz/Kalmyk and his other ancestry appears as Caucasian+Finno Ugric/Slav. I think this guy cannot represent what Kipchaks looked like.

[Leto]

also we can't say anything about what Kipchaks looked like in terms of genetics. they're very diverse population. They range from finno ugric to 80% mongoloid. This nogai guy is only 22% mongoloid. His Turkic ancestry appears as Mongolian/Kyrgyz/Kalmyk and his other ancestry appears as Caucasian+Finno Ugric/Slav. I think this guy cannot represent what Kipchaks looked like.
I think the white ancestry is from Aryans, not Finnics or Slavs. They came from the steppe.
By the way, he is around 25% mong. I use Dodecad K7b to determine mongoloid percentage. Not necessarily 100% accurate, but still quite good.

[Bosniensis]

@OP

M222573

https://i.imgur.com/r7OUcT7.png

[Hudayar]

I think the white ancestry is from Aryans, not Finnics or Slavs. They came from the steppe.

could be. to be honest Kipchaks are a bit complicated because they're the most diverse Turkic group. This guy imo is 50% Kipchak 50% Caucasian (Georgian Circassian etc)

[Leto]

could be. to be honest Kipchaks are a bit complicated because they're the most diverse Turkic group. This guy imo is 50% Kipchak 50% Caucasian (Georgian Circassian etc)
Yes, looks like a blend of East Europeans, Caucasians and Mongolians. Probably the Seljuks were similar.

[Hudayar]

@OP

M222573

https://i.imgur.com/r7OUcT7.png

Interestingly he's very similar to us

[Turkminator]

The Nogai people are mixed with the Oirat Mongols - the so-called Buryats.

This is how real Kipchak Turks look like:

https://filmhafizasi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/c%C3%BCc%C3%BC3.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

The Nogai people are mixed with the Oirat Mongols - the so-called Buryats.

This is how real Kipchak Turks look like:

https://filmhafizasi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/c%C3%BCc%C3%BC3.jpg

kipchak turks today are mainly mongoloids