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Carlito's Way
11-05-2017, 01:20 AM
Iberian Peninsula is more Basque shifted it seems
Once again proves Mexicans are majority of Southern Spanish origin
Never seen one who scored anything similar to this even if they are mix race


Basque AncestryDNA
https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/es-931.jpg?w=605&h=602


Southern Spanish
https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/es-65.jpg?w=525&h=525


Another southern Spaniard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7VsMuKzuaw

RN97
11-05-2017, 01:21 AM
Weird how the Basque scores NA, but the southern Spaniard scores none when in reality they have more NA-like admixture.

Carlito's Way
11-05-2017, 01:29 AM
Weird how the Basque scores NA, but the southern Spaniard scores none when in reality they have more NA-like admixture.

Yeah it was weird for me too, although it does detect Jewish, even if it's <1%, so I'm assuming it comes from a very distant Jewish ancestor which would explain the North African and West Asian, also I'm willing to bet that the Italy/Greece comes from that distant Jewish ancestor. So a fully blooded basque would be 96% Iberian Peninsula which is high

Cristiano viejo
11-05-2017, 01:40 AM
Once again proves Mexicans are majority of Southern Spanish origin


RMuller would be angry with this comment, according him it is the opposite.

Iloko
12-04-2017, 09:54 AM
Can't Spaniards also have some Phoenician, Greek, Arab, and Roman ancestry?--Which would explain SW-Asian and Red-Sea scores on Gedmatch..

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
12-04-2017, 10:33 AM
I think the reference sample for most Iberian ancestry is Basque. That's why Spaniards usually score slightly more Iberian ancestry than the Portuguese, who usually are more North Western and Italian shifted on such ancestry tests. Regions that are on the extremes of the Peninsula should score less of it.

Cristiano viejo
12-04-2017, 01:20 PM
Can't Spaniards also have some Phoenician, Greek, Arab, and Roman ancestry?

No.
No.
No.
And no.

Carlito's Way
12-04-2017, 10:42 PM
I think the reference sample for most Iberian ancestry is Basque. That's why Spaniards usually score slightly more Iberian ancestry than the Portuguese, who usually are more North Western and Italian shifted on such ancestry tests. Regions that are on the extremes of the Peninsula should score less of it.

This is from Madeira
https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/mad-36-it.jpg


I've seen a lot of. azoran samples since there are many of them in America who have gotten tested, they many of the times score more Italy/Greece with Iberian coming in second. But from what I understand, the Azores Islands were populated by Northern Portuguese or am I mistaken? I think I read this on abf, don't know for sure

https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/pt-stats-n24.png

Carlito's Way
12-04-2017, 10:46 PM
This is the Spanish one, obviously they included Sephardic Jew, non-Sephardic Jew Spaniards don't score much North African, the highest I've seen in only one was 1%, and they rarely score west Asian

And these samples included northern/central and even southern, i think most samples are southern Spain
https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/es-stats-n10.png

Damiăo de Góis
12-04-2017, 10:55 PM
This is from Madeira
https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/mad-36-it.jpg


I've seen a lot of. azoran samples since there are many of them in America who have gotten tested, they many of the times score more Italy/Greece with Iberian coming in second. But from what I understand, the Azores Islands were populated by Northern Portuguese or am I mistaken? I think I read this on abf, don't know for sure

https://tracingafricanroots.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/pt-stats-n24.png

No it's madeirans who came mostly from north Portugal. Azoreans are more diverse, but i think they were primarly from southern Portugal.

Iloko
12-05-2017, 01:13 AM
Some good info on this page: https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml