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JMack
11-07-2017, 11:20 PM
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Odin
11-07-2017, 11:30 PM
Strandid + Lappid. Pass in Northern Sweden.

JMack
11-07-2017, 11:30 PM
bump

JMack
11-07-2017, 11:31 PM
Strandid + Lappid. Pass in Northern Sweden.

Do you think he could pass as Hapa (part Asian)?

Odin
11-07-2017, 11:33 PM
Do you think he could pass as Hapa (part Asian)?

Not typical Eurasian. He was a Laplander.

Aodhan
11-07-2017, 11:51 PM
Lappid, northern Scandinavia

RN97
11-08-2017, 12:40 AM
He was not ethnic Norwegian, he was part sami I'm pretty sure.

Arduti
11-08-2017, 01:25 AM
I'm seeing Finn

JMack
11-08-2017, 11:18 AM
bump

Slowdive
11-08-2017, 08:05 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/1e/21/5c/1e215c1f50dda0eeb2ea7352d7eb14f7--heavy-metal-black-metal.jpg

KreigKönigin
07-09-2019, 09:34 AM
What do you think Sami people are? Mexican? Sami are actually every bit as much of not more ethnically Nordic than other Scandinavians. With the same Haplogroups I1/N1. Your comment is ridiculous and makes -0 sense. Please do a at LEAST a lick of research before talking bs about my people. You are only embarrassing yourself!:crazy::crazy:

Loki
07-09-2019, 10:25 AM
What do you think Sami people are? Mexican? Sami are actually every bit as much of not more ethnically Nordic than other Scandinavians. With the same Haplogroups I1/N1. Your comment is ridiculous and makes -0 sense. Please do a at LEAST a lick of research before talking bs about my people. You are only embarrassing yourself!:crazy::crazy:

N1 is not Scandinavian though, it is Finnic.

KreigKönigin
07-10-2019, 05:39 AM
N1 is not Scandinavian though, it is Finnic.

N1 and I1 are the same mtdna class. Both these Haplogroups are more common in Scandinavia, Germany, Netherlands and England than anywhere else. So what does that tell you? I mean Finns are OBVIOUSLY closely related to Scandinavians.

chociprasa
07-10-2019, 06:04 AM
What do you think Sami people are? Mexican? Sami are actually every bit as much of not more ethnically Nordic than other Scandinavians. With the same Haplogroups I1/N1. Your comment is ridiculous and makes -0 sense. Please do a at LEAST a lick of research before talking bs about my people. You are only embarrassing yourself!:crazy::crazy:

Proto-Mongoloid, probably mixed with some kind of East-CM.


N1 and I1 are the same mtdna class. Both these Haplogroups are more common in Scandinavia, Germany, Netherlands and England than anywhere else. So what does that tell you? I mean Finns are OBVIOUSLY closely related to Scandinavians.

Only the western Finns really.

Zroota
07-10-2019, 06:49 AM
Strandid

Loki
07-10-2019, 09:51 AM
N1 and I1 are the same mtdna class.

No, it's not mtDNA, it's Y-DNA.



Both these Haplogroups are more common in Scandinavia, Germany, Netherlands and England than anywhere else. So what does that tell you? I mean Finns are OBVIOUSLY closely related to Scandinavians.

N is not common in Germanic countries like Germany, Netherlands or England, nor in Swedish areas with low Finnic influence. It is more common in places like Northwest Russia.

farke1
07-10-2019, 09:58 AM
N1 and I1 are the same mtdna class. Both these Haplogroups are more common in Scandinavia, Germany, Netherlands and England than anywhere else. So what does that tell you? I mean Finns are OBVIOUSLY closely related to Scandinavians.
You're a bad troll. Firstly, they're Y-DNA and not mtDNA; secondly, what the hell do you even mean by class? And N1 isn't "common" in Scandinavia, and is barely present at all in Germany, the Netherlands or England. As Loki said, N1 is Finnic - I1 and R1b-U106 are the two haplogroups associated with Germanic people. And that's all ignoring the completely obvious fact that autosomal DNA means a hundred times more than a haplogroup ever will when it comes to determining ethnicity.

edit: missed Loki's second post, woops. :eek:

KreigKönigin
07-12-2019, 08:07 AM
No, it's not mtDNA, it's Y-DNA.



N is not common in Germanic countries like Germany, Netherlands or England, nor in Swedish areas with low Finnic influence. It is more common in places like Northwest Russia.

Somwhat common in Germany! https://thuleanperspective.com/haplogroup-n/

KreigKönigin
07-12-2019, 08:16 AM
You're a bad troll. Firstly, they're Y-DNA and not mtDNA; secondly, what the hell do you even mean by class? And N1 isn't "common" in Scandinavia, and is barely present at all in Germany, the Netherlands or England. As Loki said, N1 is Finnic - I1 and R1b-U106 are the two haplogroups associated with Germanic people. And that's all ignoring the completely obvious fact that autosomal DNA means a hundred times more than a haplogroup ever will when it comes to determining ethnicity.

edit: missed Loki's second post, woops. :eek:

You're obviously NOT a scientist. At all. And R1 is 100% CELTIC. They have NOTHING to do with Germanic. In fact, I'm sure even most of them would laugh at you! Go tell wikipedia theyre lying troll's, too because it even explains I is the DIRECT line from N. Finns and Germans are both obviously nordic nations. Not only do we have the same heritage but culture and languages as well. I can prove that to you too if you wanna fight me about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I_(mtDNA)

Regnera
07-12-2019, 08:32 AM
He was not ethnic Norwegian, he was part sami I'm pretty sure.

But his name was typical Norwegian,I think he was mixed with sami and Viking ancestry.

farke1
07-12-2019, 08:50 AM
You're obviously NOT a scientist.
Neither are you, by the looks of things. And it seems you can't even read your own articles either.


And R1 is 100% CELTIC. They have NOTHING to do with Germanic. In fact, I'm sure even most of them would laugh at you!
Here is proof that R1b-U106 is Germanic, (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#S21-U106) and here is proof that R1a doesn't even have a Celtic subclade (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml), so I don't even know where the hell you're getting your information from. As someone who actually belongs to R1b myself, you're the one I'm laughing at.


Go tell wikipedia theyre lying troll's, too because it even explains I is the DIRECT line from N. Finns and Germans are both obviously nordic nations. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I_(mtDNA)
This is the funniest part of your post, as it makes me wonder if you've even read your own wikipedia link. "The highest frequencies of mitochondrial haplogroup I observed so far appear in the Cushitic-speaking El Molo (23%) and Rendille (>17%) in northern Kenya (Castrì 2008). The clade is also found at comparable frequencies among the Soqotri (~22%).[1]" - and you're trying to tell me it's Nordic? LOL. This is the haplogroup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253) you want to be concerned about, as your weird mtDNA haplogroup proves nothing about having Nordic origins (and mtDNA is less relevant than Y-DNA anyways).


Not only do we have the same heritage but culture and languages as well. I can prove that to you too if you wanna fight me about it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I_(mtDNA)
You don't have the same heritage or culture (although the culture is similar, I suppose) and you definitely don't have the same language. I'm seriously interested to see what the hell you're going to pull out of your arse this time, especially with regard to the languages as they aren't even at all similar - they belong to an entirely different family. Finnish is also one of the only agglutinative languages in the whole of Europe, most of the others are Asian - German is more similar to bloody French.

KreigKönigin
07-12-2019, 11:24 AM
Neither are you, by the looks of things. And it seems you can't even read your own articles either.


Here is proof that R1b-U106 is Germanic, (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#S21-U106) and here is proof that R1a doesn't even have a Celtic subclade (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml), so I don't even know where the hell you're getting your information from. As someone who actually belongs to R1b myself, you're the one I'm laughing at.


This is the funniest part of your post, as it makes me wonder if you've even read your own wikipedia link. "The highest frequencies of mitochondrial haplogroup I observed so far appear in the Cushitic-speaking El Molo (23%) and Rendille (>17%) in northern Kenya (Castrì 2008). The clade is also found at comparable frequencies among the Soqotri (~22%).[1]" - and you're trying to tell me it's Nordic? LOL. This is the haplogroup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253) you want to be concerned about, as your weird mtDNA haplogroup proves nothing about having Nordic origins (and mtDNA is less relevant than Y-DNA anyways).


You don't have the same heritage or culture (although the culture is similar, I suppose) and you definitely don't have the same language. I'm seriously interested to see what the hell you're going to pull out of your arse this time, especially with regard to the languages as they aren't even at all similar - they belong to an entirely different family. Finnish is also one of the only agglutinative languages in the whole of Europe, most of the others are Asian - German is more similar to bloody French.

It CLEARLY states that N1 is the progenitor of I1...
Haplogroup I
Possible time of origin
20.1 kya (Olivieri 2013)
Possible place of origin
West Asia (Terreros 2011 and Fernandes 2012)
Ancestor
N1a1b (former N1e'I), (Olivieri 2013)
Descendants
I1, I2'3, I4, I5, I6, I7 (Olivieri 2013)
Defining mutations
T10034C, G16129A!, G16391A (Behar & Family Tree DNA 2012)

Closer to French, huh? Yeah, and my dog is closer to a unicorn, too. You're literally tripping....

German/Scandinavian/Finnic-

König/kongen/kuningat-king
Königin/kuningatar-queen
Wasser/vesi-water
Sie/sinä-you
Han/hän-he
Weiss/hvit/valkoinen-white
Gelb/gul/keltainen/yellow
Pink/pinkki
Echte/ægte/aito-real
Tag/dæg/päivä-day
Woche/víku/viikko-week
Montag/måndag/maanantai-monday
Dienstag/tirsdag/tiistai- tuesday
Mitwoche/keskiviikko-wednesday
Donnerstag/torsdag/torstai-thursday
Freitag/fridag/perjantai-friday
Lördag/lauantai-saturday
Sonntag/soldag/sunnuntai- sunday

I could give literally 100s of more examples. But I think I've made my point. You just keep wanting to deny facts with imbecilic insults. And this is actually MY heritage. And I just despise when demented clowns that have nothing to do with it make absurd and degrading lies. And by the sounds of it you ain't any more "Germanic" (nor literate for that matter) than that subhuman trash Cardi B.

farke1
07-12-2019, 11:54 AM
It CLEARLY states that N1 is the progenitor of I1...
You're talking about maternal DNA, not Y-DNA. How the hell can't you make the distinction between the two? I even linked you the haplogroup I1 that's associated with Germanic people and you're still in denial. The wikipedia article you linked explicitly states that the haplogroup you carry peaks amongst fucking Kenyans of all people.



It CLEARLY states that N1 is the progenitor of I1...

Closer to French, huh? Yeah, and my dog is closer to a unicorn, too. You're literally tripping....

German/Scandinavian/Finnic

I could give literally 100s of more examples. But I think I've made my point.
You're giving examples of loan words, which only speaks to discredit your own "point". There are fucking Asian languages that use loanwords too. The grammar and sentence structure in Finnish is different from ALL other Germanic languages (and even Romance languages, so yes German is closer to French in that regard), and they even evolved in entirely different parts of the world. You're free to check your beloved Wikipedia if you disagree. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language#History) I'm unironically thinking that you're lying and are actually not Finnish at all, as every single Finnish person I've ever spoken to in my life would not be trying to claim that Finnish and German are at all related (and if any real Finnish forum users here want to give their opinion, it would be appreciated), and many actually actively resent that people incorrectly assume that Finnish and Swedish languages are related, like you're doing.



And by the sounds of it you ain't any more "Germanic" (nor literate for that matter) than that subhuman trash Cardi B.
Nice projecting. When you believe and propagate so many factual inaccuracies about your own supposed "culture", I think you're the one lying about their identity here.

KreigKönigin
07-12-2019, 03:15 PM
You're talking about maternal DNA, not Y-DNA. How the hell can't you make the distinction between the two? I even linked you the haplogroup I1 that's associated with Germanic people and you're still in denial. The wikipedia article you linked explicitly states that the haplogroup you carry peaks amongst fucking Kenyans of all people.



You're giving examples of loan words, which only speaks to discredit your own "point". There are fucking Asian languages that use loanwords too. The grammar and sentence structure in Finnish is different from ALL other Germanic languages (and even Romance languages, so yes German is closer to French in that regard), and they even evolved in entirely different parts of the world. You're free to check your beloved Wikipedia if you disagree. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language#History) I'm unironically thinking that you're lying and are actually not Finnish at all, as every single Finnish person I've ever spoken to in my life would not be trying to claim that Finnish and German are at all related (and if any real Finnish forum users here want to give their opinion, it would be appreciated), and many actually actively resent that people incorrectly assume that Finnish and Swedish languages are related, like you're doing.



Nice projecting. When you believe and propagate so many factual inaccuracies about your own supposed "culture", I think you're the one lying about their identity here.

Oh, and anyone who "resents" obvious common sense like you're doing and claims to be "Swedish" or whatever at the same time is a hypocrite imposter. There I'm done.

RN97
07-13-2019, 12:50 PM
But his name was typical Norwegian,I think he was mixed with sami and Viking ancestry.

Sami names are basically extinct, so even samis have Norwegian names, like American Indians have English names.-