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Impaler
11-08-2017, 07:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xkPXROC.jpg (https://imgur.com/xkPXROC)
http://i.imgur.com/w4tBoxr.jpg (https://imgur.com/w4tBoxr)
http://i.imgur.com/CdmEK6i.jpg (https://imgur.com/CdmEK6i)
http://i.imgur.com/GI1S4EU.png (https://imgur.com/GI1S4EU)
http://i.imgur.com/HyMbC82.jpg (https://imgur.com/HyMbC82)

Odin
11-08-2017, 07:50 PM
Pontid + Dinarid.

Seya
11-08-2017, 08:00 PM
only his name left from his tatar heritage :lol:

Ülev
11-08-2017, 08:05 PM
but what if many of Europeans have that Tatar/Hunnic &Co. heritage (traits/features) in reality, and therefore no one will reveal the truth about some of phenotypes?

Peterski
11-08-2017, 08:05 PM
only his name left from his tatar heritage :lol:

Not really, there is something Tatar about his eyes if you look closer.

Peterski
11-08-2017, 08:07 PM
but what if many of Europeans have that Tatar/Hunnic &Co. heritage (traits/features) in reality, and therefore no one will reveal the truth about some of phenotypes?

Yeah for example we think "this guy just looks fully European!". But we don't realize that so many Europeans have some Hunnic heritage, that some Hunnic traits are so common, that we no longer see them as weird and no longer associate them with Huns.

Excellent points Vandal. As always your posts are contributing a lot to discussion.

The same applies to Cuman traits. Many Romanians have Cuman traits, but they are so common in Romania, that people no longer associate them with Cumans. Instead they say "this girl looks fully Romanian, fully European, nothing Cuman about her!".

Peterski
11-08-2017, 08:13 PM
Did all of those Avars, Huns, Cumans, Kipchaks etc. just disappear? Is nobody descended from them today?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?223170-gt-426-Avar-(-)-graves-excavated-near-Bratislava

Kouros
11-08-2017, 08:13 PM
Doesn't look tatar at all, predominately Pontid.

Peterski
11-08-2017, 08:14 PM
Doesn't look tatar at all, predominately Pontid.

Pontid is a composite mixed type which includes Tatar heritage as well.

You don't notice this because so many Pontids have some Tatar heritage.

Impaler
11-08-2017, 08:18 PM
only his name left from his tatar heritage :lol:

His father is Tatar from Dobruja.
http://premium.gsp.ro/premium/poveste/alibec-povestea-geniului-capricios-tatal-sau-un-tatar-din-dobrogea-era-vedeta-in-judet-prin-anii-80-508183.html

Antimage
11-08-2017, 08:18 PM
Pontid is a composite mixed type which includes Tatar heritage as well.

You don't notice this because so many Pontids have some Tatar heritage.

This is a hungarian girl with Turkic/cuman surname, likely has some cuman ancestry
http://m.cdn.blog.hu/jo/jochapress/image/Karakas%20Hedvig_MOB.jpg
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m80ncwzDlM1rx2x6qo1_1280.jpg

Impaler
11-08-2017, 08:21 PM
This is a hungarian girl with Turkic/cuman surname, likely has some cuman ancestry
http://m.cdn.blog.hu/jo/jochapress/image/Karakas%20Hedvig_MOB.jpg
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m80ncwzDlM1rx2x6qo1_1280.jpg

She has some Mongoloid admixture, especially her cheekbones and eyes.

Kouros
11-08-2017, 08:27 PM
Pontid is a composite mixed type which includes Tatar heritage as well.

You don't notice this because so many Pontids have some Tatar heritage.

Maybe in North-Eastern Europe, not really in Balkans it seems. Tatars have distinct features that I really don't see in this guy.

blogen
11-08-2017, 08:28 PM
This is a hungarian girl with Turkic/cuman surname, likely has some cuman ancestry
http://m.cdn.blog.hu/jo/jochapress/image/Karakas%20Hedvig_MOB.jpg
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m80ncwzDlM1rx2x6qo1_1280.jpg

Presumably yes, based on her name. Hovewer, she is a small Europo-Mongoloid Lapponoid girl, who looks Slavic and not a Cumanian.

Kamal900
11-08-2017, 08:28 PM
Looks Balkan to me. Nothing unusual about his phenotype. He can pass in Albania and Greece without trouble.

Ülev
11-08-2017, 08:31 PM
lol, his back of head and top of head screams "I am Tatar", but because R1a & R1b did Europe Tataro-Hunnic no one see it, but why the heck people deny that great heritage?

Mingle
11-08-2017, 08:31 PM
This is a hungarian girl with Turkic/cuman surname, likely has some cuman ancestry
http://m.cdn.blog.hu/jo/jochapress/image/Karakas%20Hedvig_MOB.jpg
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m80ncwzDlM1rx2x6qo1_1280.jpg

Is her look common?

Antimage
11-08-2017, 08:35 PM
Is her look common?

idk. There are many types of hungarian face. I will say she doesnt look foreign. I see some mongol in her face.

blogen
11-08-2017, 08:35 PM
Yeah for example we think "this guy just looks fully European!". But we don't realize that so many Europeans have some Hunnic heritage, that some Hunnic traits are so common, that we no longer see them as weird and no longer associate them with Huns.

Excellent points Vandal. As always your posts are contributing a lot to discussion.

The same applies to Cuman traits. Many Romanians have Cuman traits, but they are so common in Romania, that people no longer associate them with Cumans. Instead they say "this girl looks fully Romanian, fully European, nothing Cuman about her!".

Firstly: the Cumanians are the less Europo-Mongoloid peoples between the Hungarians. The connection between the Mongoloidness and the Cumanians is a fake myth only, the reality is totally different.
Secondly: lot of real Tatar is clear Europid. Because the Tatars were not Tatars once, but Finno-Ugrics, various Turks or even Slavs and the assimilated to the local Tatars. Since this was the history of the Tatars, assimilation and admixture. They do not have a homeland, nowhere.

Peterski
11-08-2017, 09:19 PM
This is a hungarian girl with Turkic/cuman surname, likely has some cuman ancestry
http://m.cdn.blog.hu/jo/jochapress/image/Karakas%20Hedvig_MOB.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vuz_fhzkQA

Mucius Scaevola
11-08-2017, 09:51 PM
Pontid with Alpine influence.

Seya
11-09-2017, 05:04 PM
Not really, there is something Tatar about his eyes if you look closer.

nothing tatar about his eyes..there are full romanians who look a lot more asian then this guy