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Pallantides
01-06-2011, 12:16 AM
http://www.solarnavigator.net/history/explorers_history/Napoleon_Bonaparte_young_officer.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Jacques-Louis_David_007.jpg
http://www.cowetaschools.org/nhs/quesinberry/whistory/Napoleon_bonaparte.jpg
http://www.myartprints.co.uk/kunst//napoleon_bonaparte__1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Napoleon_Bonaparte.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/b48cgn.jpg

Ibericus
01-06-2011, 12:24 AM
Alpine+Dinarid

Sturmgewehr
01-06-2011, 01:39 AM
Alpine+Dinarid


+1.........

Eliades
01-06-2011, 02:26 AM
Dinaricized Med?

And, how come he has blond hair in one of the pics?

Agrippa
01-06-2011, 10:34 AM
Nordid-Mediterranid/Atlantid + certain Alpinoid and Dinarid influences.

I read he had light eyes, he wasn't short (this myth is based on an English conversion mistake and propaganda) and had obviously rather sharp and progressive traits.


Napoleon was 5 feet 6˝ inches tall, average height at the time. In his early years he was quite lean and only after 1806 did he become heavy. In his younger years he was often described as sickly in appearance, his skin having a yellowish pallor. He had fine white teeth, which he was proud. His nose was slightly curved, with a "sharp and delicate modelling, [but] was less prominent than one is inclined to suppose from the evidence of his portraits." His eyes, deep-set, were reportedly gray or gray-blue.

http://www.napoleon-series.org/research/napoleon/c_description.html

Also he seems to have been rather leptomorphic, grew somewhat fatter only in later age, his personality was at least schizothymic influenced.

His only, unfortunately only short living son, Napoleon Franz Bonaparte, from 1818 Herzog von Reichstadt:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Napoleon_2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Nap-receis_50.jpg

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Franz_Bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_II

If he wouldn't have had AT LEAST recessively Nordoid traits, he would have never produced such a son which is almost textbook Nordid (with Norid/Dinarid influences probably) and it can't be all just from his mother's side alone.

Death mask of his son:
http://stoessel.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/napoleon2.jpg

Presumably he died of tuberculosis, which was a great threat at that time, especially for rather Leptosomic people which are known to be vulnerable to that disease more often, it was actually even part of the contraselection against leptomorphic types especially in the crowded cities.

Pallantides
01-06-2011, 08:13 PM
His only, unfortunately only short living son, Napoleon Franz Bonaparte, from 1818 Herzog von Reichstadt:
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He also had the two illegitimate sons Charles,Count Léon(1806 - 1881) and Alexandre Florian Joseph, Duke Colonna-Walewski (1810 – 1868)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Léon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_L%C3%A9on)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Joseph_Colonna,_Count_Walewski

Neanderthal
01-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Atlantid + Carpathid.

Radola
01-06-2011, 10:39 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AoUoTln5LRo/TG_q0bQ_qyI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/1b9_ZEEAVRw/s400/Reflex.jpg

Looks like our Minister of Transport Vít Bárta :D:D

Ugo Tognazzi
01-07-2011, 12:16 AM
I have collected many pics of Napoleon. If i get them i will post them

^the death mask above is highly debated. There have been many death masks more or les acurrate with many re-managements.

As Agrippa says Napoleon wasn't really that short, especially for his times. His body got stocky in mid age and later fat
One of the reasons why he looked small is because the Marshals (Bernadotte,,,Murat) were huge and very tall were the grenadiers and other soldiers of his guard around him.

the greatest Corsican and most famous Frenchman was of Italian ancestry.

His mother Letizia Ramolino from which he clearly took after:
http://catherinedelors.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/laetitia-ramolino-bonaparte.jpg

His father Carlo Buonaparte:
http://www.napoleon-bonaparte.napoleon-online.de/assets/images/CarloBuonaparte.JPG

This is cardinal Joseph Fesh who was Napoleon's unkle (half brother of Letizia, his father was Swiss)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Cardinal_Joseph_Fesch.png

Napoléon Joseph Charles Paul Bonaparte instead was Napoleons nephew. son of his brother Jérome and Katharine of Wurtemberg

He strongly reminds Napeolon I in mid-age
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/3281441.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D465475A45AA3C5AA7352A501CBC5EF0B 87347052288BB462
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/3264527.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D4D5B2B62222AE69569DCB8165E17B7E8 5223CE6E4BAF89B1

Ugo Tognazzi
01-07-2011, 12:51 AM
as for the numerous siblings:

His sister Elisa clearly took after the paternal side, and doesn't look much her brother
http://www.oldcameos.com/graf/Elisa.JPG

Louis was mainly like his father.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/1778_Louis_Napoleon.jpg




Joseph, mainly like the father:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8uzQiS3J5WC8hlwyVbhw0nc47Jil7c UuNUmjegGwL01XN-S5U

Pauline, was very similar to Napoleon and their mother.
http://www.oldcameos.com/graf/Pauline.JPG



A cross between the two:

Lucien: (Alpinoid traits dominate with the long nose common to both sides)
http://www.portalestoria.net/IMAGES%2077/lucien%20bonaparte.jpg

Carolina: (mother dominates with some of the father's elements)
http://www.museonapoleonico.it/var/museicivici/storage/images/musei/museo_napoleonico/servizi_scientifici/approfondimenti/gioacchino_murat_e_carolina_bonaparte/70905-2-ita-IT/gioacchino_murat_e_carolina_bonaparte_large.jpg

Jerome
http://www.thepeerage.com/107014_001.jpg


The paternal side seems mainly Mediterranean-Dinaro/Alpine

The maternal seems Atlantid with minor Alpinoid

Rouxinol
01-05-2013, 09:40 PM
His various depictions show mainly an Atlanto-Dinarid man.

Graham
01-05-2013, 09:41 PM
Atlantid & Alpine

Ouistreham
01-05-2013, 10:28 PM
the greatest Corsican and most famous Frenchman was of Italian ancestry.
This is highly debatable. I'll tell you why.


as for the numerous siblings:

- His sister Elisa clearly took after the paternal side, and doesn't look much her brother
- Louis was mainly like his father.
- Joseph, mainly like the father...

The paternal side seems mainly Mediterranean-Dinaro/Alpine

The maternal seems Atlantid with minor Alpinoid

There is a popular legend in Brittany that Napoleon was half-Breton, his actual father being (Breton) general de Marbeuf who was the French military governor in Corsica at the time of Napoleon's birth and youth.

Conversely, the rebellious Corsicans said at that time that Napoleon's mother was an adultery slut and that his son a bastard.

At any rate, a few facts are documented beyond any doubt:

- Napoleon's mother and gen. de Marbeuf were very close friends,
- though he wasn't the eldest of the siblings, he was educated by her mother as the leader of the pack, as if he was from some superior stock,
- Napoleon's "official" father DIDN'T mention the soon to be Emperor in his testament!


Napoleon was born in Ajaccio, Corsica, on August 15th 1769 to Carlo Buonaparte, a lawyer and political opportunist, and his wife, Marie-Letizia. The Buonaparte's were a wealthy family from the Corsican nobility, although when compared to the great aristocracies of France Napoleon's kin were poor and pretentious. A combination of Carlo's social climbing, Letizia's adultery with the Comte de Marbeuf - Corsica's French military governor - and Napoleon's own ability enabled him to enter the military academy at Brienne in 1779. He moved to the Parisian École Royale Militaire in 1784 and graduated a year later as a second lieutenant in the artillery. Spurred on by his father's death in February 1785, the future emperor had completed in one year a course that often took three.
http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/bonapartenapoleon/a/bionapoleon.htm


Young Napoleon really had the specific Breton vibe i.e. an expression of stubbornness along with dreamy eyes:

http://napoleonbonaparte.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/blog-napoleon-bonaparte-a-25-ans.jpg

aherne
01-06-2013, 07:24 AM
Italo-Nordid with Mediterannean admixture. Typical Italian...

Sikeliot
01-06-2013, 07:28 AM
Nordo-Med and typically northern Italian, which is what Corsicans are.. they are not French.

Caismeachd
01-06-2013, 07:51 AM
Gracile med + CM

Lemon Kush
01-06-2013, 08:12 AM
Dinaricized Atlantid with additional Alpinid admixture.

Anglojew
01-06-2013, 08:41 AM
The rumors are he was of partial Scottish descent.

Caismeachd
01-06-2013, 08:44 AM
In the first photos posted his jawline/structure reminds me a bit of myself but with a strong gracile med component. That's why I said gracile med + cm.

Lemon Kush
01-06-2013, 08:54 AM
Typical "classify famous national hero" thread every ethnicity is going to try to claim him as there own.

le penalty
01-06-2013, 10:22 AM
Nordo-Med and typically northern Italian, which is what Corsicans are.. they are not French.

:rolleyes: not Italian that is for sure

Ira di Dio
01-06-2013, 04:22 PM
I would love to see anyone of you try to tell in the face of a Corsican that he is either French or Italian. ;)

He looks atlantodinaric anyway.

le penalty
01-06-2013, 05:46 PM
I would love to see anyone of you try to tell in the face of a Corsican that he is either French or Italian. ;)

He looks atlantodinaric anyway.

A small minority is clearly for independance and the majority dont care literally ! They feel firstly Corsican and after French like Bretons,French basques ... etc I was in Corsica for the world cup final 2006 (italie-france) and you can be sure they didnt support italia :laugh:

Laubach
01-06-2013, 06:04 PM
Taking some minorities of Corsica, Brittany, Basque and Catalan, France is a united country . We don´t have a division and pride ourselves on being French.

But an American come to mean that the Corsicans are not French.

Maybe get some 50 fans in Corsica

Ira di Dio
01-06-2013, 08:37 PM
A small minority is clearly for independance and the majority dont care literally ! They feel firstly Corsican and after French like Bretons,French basques ... etc I was in Corsica for the world cup final 2006 (italie-france) and you can be sure they didnt support italia :laugh:
Definitely not. But I would be surprised to hear that so many ethnic Corsicans were supporting France either considering what a lot of them think about the French.

By the way I'm puzzled to hear that the Corsicans are actually northern Italians when their language sounds nothing like a northern Italian dialect:

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To me this sounds like somewhere between southern Laziale and Sardinian (with French rotacism) :confused:

Sisak
01-06-2013, 08:45 PM
He is alpine or norid.

I met a boy from Vojvodina who looks like his twin. His username was Napoleon because of similarity with Napoleon.

Smeagol
10-16-2013, 10:57 PM
Nordo-Atlantid with Dinaric, and Alpine influences.
His son just looks Nordic.

Hadouken
10-16-2013, 10:58 PM
northatlantid

Sharkeatpeople
10-17-2013, 04:50 AM
Keltic Nordic + Alpine

YeshAtid
12-30-2013, 12:29 AM
Bani Israel

Smeagol
12-30-2013, 12:31 AM
Atlanto-Nordid with Dinarid and Alpinid influences. Looked like a Roman.

LightHouse89
12-30-2013, 12:32 AM
the coolest midget in mankind's history.

oh-nahhh
12-30-2013, 08:41 AM
Atlanto-Alpinid+Dinarid.

Peikko
12-30-2013, 08:42 AM
Alpine midget.

Freeroostah
03-24-2014, 09:18 PM
Alpine-Med

Peyrol
03-24-2014, 09:25 PM
A small minority is clearly for independance and the majority dont care literally ! They feel firstly Corsican and after French like Bretons,French basques ... etc I was in Corsica for the world cup final 2006 (italie-france) and you can be sure they didnt support italia :laugh:

What do you prendend for an island where real corsicans are less than 100,000 out of more 200,000 people? Firstly mainland colonization, then the Pied Noir resettlement, then modern maghreb invasion..


And tell me that this is ''french''...lol...corsican is even more related to standard italian than piemonteis or furlan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNNbOKR8Hw&list=RDGwNNbOKR8Hw#t=28



Btw, Bonaparte's family were from Sarzana, a town in the liguro-tuscan border.

JMack
12-04-2016, 08:43 PM
Alpinized Atlanto-Med. LOL at the Nordid classifications.

Typical Italian.

jmls
07-05-2019, 09:46 AM
Passes as Northern Italian or Swiss/Southern German. Dinaricized Sub-Nordid.

Corded
07-18-2019, 12:21 AM
North-atlantid + dinarid + alpine

chociprasa
07-18-2019, 12:25 AM
Alpino-Dinarid + Atlantid.

Ikiru
07-18-2019, 01:19 AM
Alpino-Dinarid

Lousianaboy
07-18-2019, 01:23 AM
the young napoleon looks like me

jingorex
07-18-2019, 01:25 AM
Alpine+Dinarid

https://media.giphy.com/media/WJjLyXCVvro2I/giphy.gif

Lousianaboy
04-27-2020, 04:05 PM
im a blonde version of Napoleon lol

Rabbit Hole
04-27-2020, 04:09 PM
im a blonde version of Napoleon lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trd49Da0gf0

Antoinecousteau
07-13-2023, 12:28 PM
Napoleon was brachycephalic, round faced. So atlantid doesn't seem likely.

Mortimer
07-13-2023, 12:32 PM
Brünn Celtic nordid

guyinsf
07-19-2023, 07:12 AM
Dinarid, Atlantid and med.

Xacal
07-19-2023, 07:21 AM
Dinarid, Atlantid and med.

+1

Abaddon
07-19-2023, 02:02 PM
Alpine + Dinarid