My Y-DNA haplogroup

[greasycaveman]

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[greasycaveman]

anyone know what this is?

[Dick]

Ask Rethel.

[Gangrel]

ancient mongolian congrats

[Kelmendasi]

You are R1b-L21 which is linked to Celts in the British Isles

[greasycaveman]

You are R1b-L21 which is linked to Celts in the British Isles

So irish........ R u sure lol

[Kelmendasi]

So irish........ R u sure lol
Yep, https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#L21

[greasycaveman]

Yep, https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#L21

shit

[de Burgh II]

So irish........ R u sure lol

He's correct....

I was hoping you were apart of the R1b-U106 Anglo-Saxon master-race.... :(

lol! Jk. :p

https://s17.postimg.org/d0uknj1jz/Untitled.jpg

http://adamsfamilydna.com/haplogroup-r1b-r1b1a2a1a1b4f-subclade-l21/

[Gangrel]

shit

lmaoooo

[greasycaveman]

lmaoooo

WHAT?

[Kelmendasi]

shit
Why, what’s wrong?

[greasycaveman]

Why, what’s wrong?

nothing

[greasycaveman]

Why, what’s wrong?

I dont have a russian haplogroup? Im half russian half american or british i guess. My dad is british, mom is russian.

[Kelmendasi]

I dont have a russian haplogroup? Im half russian half american or british i guess. My dad is british, mom is russian.
You inherit your Ydna from your father who is British which explains the British haplogroup.

[greasycaveman]

You inherit your Ydna from your father who is British which explains the British haplogroup.

wait so its not irish though, making sure? I thought brits and irish people were different?

[Kelmendasi]

wait so its not irish though, making sure? I thought brits and irish people were different?
Its just linked to the Celts who inhabited Britain in general although it’s found in highest frequencies among the Irish so it’s possible that your paternal ancestor came from Ireland

[greasycaveman]

Its just linked to the Celts who inhabited Britain in general although it’s found in highest frequencies among the Irish so it’s possible that your paternal ancestor came from Ireland

prob not i got 1% irish i dont really like irish people.

[Kelmendasi]

prob not i got 1% irish i dont really like irish people.
Admix and haplogroups don’t go hand in hand. You could either be Welsh, Irish or Scottish in origin paternally

[greasycaveman]

Admix and haplogroups don’t go hand in hand. You could either be Welsh, Irish or Scottish in origin paternally

how can I find my mothers side haplogroup?

[Kelmendasi]

how can I find my mothers side haplogroup?
You need to test your Mtdna or if you want to find your mothers paternal lineage you need to test the Ydna of your maternal grandfather or uncle

[Dick]

He's correct....

I was hoping you were apart of the R1b-U106 Anglo-Saxon master-race.... :(

lol! Jk. :p



http://adamsfamilydna.com/haplogroup-r1b-r1b1a2a1a1b4f-subclade-l21/

Sorry to burst your booty but only I1 was found so far in Anglo-Saxons graves.


how can I find my mothers side haplogroup?

Wegene.com

[greasycaveman]

Sorry to burst your booty but only I1 was found so far in Anglo-Saxons graves.



Wegene.com

I did wegene and it told me i was hungarian.... weird..


and what is that haplogroup then?

[Dick]

I did wegene and it told me i was hungarian....

It should tell you both ydna and mtdna.

[Bosniensis]

You need to test your Mtdna or if you want to find your mothers paternal lineage you need to test the Ydna of your maternal grandfather or uncle

is there mtdna predictor?

[Kelmendasi]

is there mtdna predictor?
Yh, it’s called James slicks Mtdna predictor or something

[greasycaveman]

is there mtdna predictor?

what is that ancient farmers thing you have on your profile?

[Bosniensis]

what is that ancient farmers thing you have on your profile?

geneplaza.com

it's something like premium gedmatch eurogenes k36 but different.

you can use your data there as well, for a couple of $

[de Burgh II]

Sorry to burst your booty but only I1 was found so far in Anglo-Saxons graves.



Wegene.com

Ayo hold up..... we wuz.... Doggerlanders' n'

Sheitttttttttttt!!! :p
http://picturestack.com/248/760/6qVPicture18GyU.png

[greasycaveman]

Do i look irish?

[greasycaveman]

...

[Rethel]

shit

Why?

[Rethel]

I dont have a russian haplogroup? Im half russian half american or british i guess. My dad is british, mom is russian.

:picard2:

[Leto]

I dont have a russian haplogroup? Im half russian half american or british i guess. My dad is british, mom is russian.
What are your autosomal results?

[greasycaveman]

What are your autosomal results?

69743

[BalkanTurk]

You are R1b-L21 which is linked to Celts in the British IslesAre all I2a1 subclades Slavic?

[Leto]

69743
Um. 51% East European and 6% Finnish. That's too much for a half-Briton. Have you tried GEDmatch?

[greasycaveman]

Um. 51% East European and 6% Finnish. That's too much for a half-Briton. Have you tried GEDmatch?

Well my dad is american so idk mom is russian tho

K13 belorusian 50% + south dutch 50%

K15 lithuanian 50% + south dutch 50%



Gedmatch # A187402


Its prob wrong tho, bc my ydna haplogroup is celtic.

[Leto]

Well my dad is american so idk mom is russian tho

K13 belorusian 50% + south dutch 50%

K15 lithuanian 50% + south dutch 50%



Gedmatch # A187402
52.2% South_Dutch + 47.8% Belorussian @ 3.02

Then the ADNA results are inaccurate. Though your dad may as well have some East European.

[BalkanTurk]

Well my dad is american so idk mom is russian tho

K13 belorusian 50% + south dutch 50%

K15 lithuanian 50% + south dutch 50%Your Y-DNA haplogroup does not have anything to do with Russians because it shows where your father's ancestor in a straight paternal lineage comes from.

There are 2 probabilities that come in mind as to why you did not score that much Irish which represents all Celtic peoples of the British Isles:

1. You did not inherit Celtic ancestry. You inherit 50% of your ancestry from each of your parents, that means you do not inherit 50% of each of your parents. However, your haplogroup can not change. So perhaps you did not inherit any major Celtic ancestry, but do have it and is shown by your Y-DNA haplogroup.

2. You are a special case and the reason you have this Y-DNA haplogroup is that you have a Celtic ancestor down the line in a straight paternal lineage, but the rest of your dads ancestors were non-Celtic.

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[Rethel]

Um. 51% East European and 6% Finnish. That's too much for a half-Briton. Have you tried GEDmatch?

Let he has even 0.000051% and 600% - who cares... :picard2:

[Kelmendasi]

Are all I2a1 subclades Slavic?
No, some I2a1 clades such as I2a1a which is the native Med I2 common in Sardinians and I2a1b-L161.1 which is found in NW European countries aren't Slavic although the I2a1b clades carried by modern day Slavs are Slavic

[greasycaveman]

Your Y-DNA haplogroup does not have anything to do with Russians because it shows where your father's ancestor in a straight paternal lineage comes from.

There are 2 probabilities that come in mind as to why you did not score that much Irish which represents all Celtic peoples of the British Isles:

1. You did not inherit Celtic ancestry. You inherit 50% of your ancestry from each of your parents, that means you do not inherit 50% of each of your parents. However, your haplogroup can not change. So perhaps you did not inherit any major Celtic ancestry, but do have it and is shown by your Y-DNA haplogroup.

2. You are a special case and the reason you have this Y-DNA haplogroup is that you have a Celtic ancestor down the line in a straight paternal lineage, but the rest of your dads ancestors were non-Celtic.

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wait so the only way to find out my parents full ancestry is to dna test both of them?


I thought that Y-DNA is your father's father's father's father's father's father and so on.


so I only got part of my parents dna? So my parents could have some dna that I dont have?


It wouldnt make sense, that I would only have 1% irish and that my dad could have a lot more than that...

Isnt the ancestryDNA testing your dna from a thousand years ago?

[Kelmendasi]

wait so the only way to find out my parents full ancestry is to dna test both of them?


I thought that Y-DNA is your father's father's father's father's father's father and so on.


so I only got part of my parents dna? So my parents could have some dna that I dont have?
Yes but you can test the Ydna of your mothers father line to find out the haplogroup of the males in your mothers family

[greasycaveman]

Yes but you can test the Ydna of your mothers father line to find out the haplogroup of the males in your mothers family

my grandfather is dead. and if he was alive he would be in russia. and all my moms siblings are dead.

[Kelmendasi]

my grandfather is dead. and if he was alive he would be in russia. and all my moms siblings are dead.
Oh, sorry for your losses. Does your mother have any paternal cousins?

[greasycaveman]

Oh, sorry for your losses. Does your mother have any paternal cousins?

yes but they live close to finland for some odd reason

[Kelmendasi]

yes but they live close to finland for some odd reason
Perhaps you could send them Ydna testing kits if they accept to testing. I personally just bought a Y37 kit from Ftdna to test my mothers paternal cousin as Ftdna have a sale going on right now

[greasycaveman]

Perhaps you could send them Ydna testing kits if they accept to testing

we lost contact with them, i will maybe try to ask my mom where close to finland they moved...and why...

[BalkanTurk]

wait so the only way to find out my parents full ancestry is to dna test both of them?


I thought that Y-DNA is your father's father's father's father's father's father and so on.


so I only got part of my parents dna? So my parents could have some dna that I dont have?


It wouldnt make sense, that I would only have 1% irish and that my dad could have a lot more than that...

Isnt the ancestryDNA testing your dna from a thousand years ago?Their claim that this test goes back thousands of years ago is just a marketing truc. Don't fall for it.

Your Y-DNA haplogroup indeed shows where the father of your father bla bla a long time ago came from.

Believe me, I have seen autosomal DNA results of siblings where one of them scored 30% of a classification but the other not more than 4. The rest of the percentages were pretty much equal though.

[BalkanTurk]

No, some I2a1 clades such as I2a1a which is the native Med I2 common in Sardinians and I2a1b-L161.1 which is found in NW European countries aren't Slavic although the I2a1b clades carried by modern day Slavs are SlavicWhat is the case for I2 in southern Albania or Tosks in general?

[greasycaveman]

Perhaps you could send them Ydna testing kits if they accept to testing. I personally just bought a Y37 kit from Ftdna to test my mothers paternal cousin as Ftdna have a sale going on right now

Ok my grandfathers sister officially moved to Petrozavodsk.

My grandmother's last name is volkova before being married. Her sister moved to mordovia. I am probably karelian/mordvin haplogroup

[Kelmendasi]

What is the case for I2 in southern Albania or Tosks in general?
I2 in southern Albania or Albania in general is the slavic I2a1b-Din clade which came to the Albanians via Slavs and Aromanians/Vlachs who got assimilated by the Albanian population

[BalkanTurk]

I2 in southern Albania or Albania in general is the slavic I2a1b-Din clade which came to the Albanians via Slavs and Aromanians/Vlachs who got assimilated by the Albanian populationInteresting. Any idea on how Ghegs remained "pure" while Tosks assimilated some peoples?

[Leto]

Ok my grandfathers sister officially moved to Petrozavodsk.

My grandmother's last name is volkova before being married. Her sister moved to mordovia. I am probably karelian/mordvin haplogroup
Your Russian side looks to be regularly Russian, no extra Uralic admixture.
I'm pretty sure you would be very close to Czechs and Slovaks if there were such samples in the Eurogenes database. Belorussian (pure Russian, no extra Siberian admixture) + Dutch or English is pretty much Central European.

[Grishnack]

Typical Uzbek haplogroup.

[Kelmendasi]

Interesting. Any idea on how Ghegs remained "pure" while Tosks assimilated some peoples?
Ghegs only have around 1-3% I2 afaik and the reason why they have less is because I2 carriers in northern Albania didn't reproduce as much males as the other people whilst in south Albania they did reproduce a bit more males to carry on the haplogroup(although I2 is still not a majority haplogroup in south Albania) but just because a certain group has a haplogroup of different origin it doesn't mean they aren't "pure" in terms of autosomal dna.

[BalkanTurk]

Ghegs only have around 1-3% I2 afaik and the reason why they have less is because I2 carriers in northern Albania didn't reproduce as much males as the other people whilst in south Albania they did reproduce a bit more males to carry on the haplogroup(although I2 is still not a majority haplogroup in south Albania) but just because a certain group has a haplogroup of different origin it doesn't mean they aren't "pure" in terms of autosomal dna.Nice. I found out with an autosomal DNA test my dad is part Tosk Albanian. My Y-DNA haplogroup is I2a1b3 according to some calculator but I think the clade's name's changed. The calculator was created in 2013 so quite some years have passed since then.

[Kelmendasi]

Nice. I found out with an autosomal DNA test my dad is part Tosk Albanian. My Y-DNA haplogroup is I2a1b3 according to some calculator but I think the clade's name's changed. The calculator was created in 2013 so quite some years have passed since then.
Interesting, how do you know it's Tosk/Albanian admix?

[BalkanTurk]

Interesting, how do you know it's Tosk/Albanian admix?DNA matches. Lots of cousins from Berat, Gjirokaster, Skrapar etc.

My 4th cousin is called "Ardit Zaimi" and he is also Bektashi like my dad's family.

After all, it's already known millions of Turks have partial Albanian ancestry so I'm not surprised.