Polish Nationalist Youth March [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Antimage

11-13-2017, 05:21 PM

Ülev

11-13-2017, 05:33 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/16/article-2325454-19D0D210000005DC-219_634x348.jpg

These rethelians are dumb as fuck, they love spreading everywhere and don't mind unbalacing the local job markets but get oversensitive about an unexistant problem in their country, no refugees would even want to settle there

you got it wrong

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?226509-2-mln-of-Ukrs-in-Poland-In-the-next-year-will-be-3-Don-t-you-think-enough-is-enough

Ukrainians are good looking people and they also carry R1a....I don't see any issues with that .
They might also reinforce the Polish anti-Islam nationalist parties...

Ukrainians have a lot of Old European I2 and I1, they are making Poland LESS R1 Indo-European:

https://nonpundit.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/haplogroup_i-borders.gif

http://novi.ba/storage/2016/02/23/thumbs/56cc4955-2000-40a3-b763-56430a0a0a6c-mapa-eupedia-690x480.gif

R1a make Europe more R1a (and I2a1b)

Cristiano viejo

11-13-2017, 05:35 PM

These rethelians are dumb as fuck, they love spreading everywhere and don't mind unbalacing the local job markets but get oversensitive about an unexistant problem in their country, no refugees would even want to settle there
You can not guilt Polacks for being foresighter.

Ülev

11-13-2017, 05:41 PM

Poland Defends Independence Day March Organized By Far-Right Nationalists

WARSAW, Poland — Poland's Foreign Ministry said Monday that it strongly condemns racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic ideas, but insisted that a large weekend march by nationalists in Warsaw was largely an expression of patriotic feeling.

The ministry said that the march Saturday on the Independence Day holiday was "a great celebration of Poles, differing in their views, but united around the common values of freedom and loyalty to an independent homeland."

The event was organized by groups that trace their roots to radical nationalist pre-World War II anti-Semitic groups. About 60,000 people took part, including families.

But there were also young men carrying banners with messages including "White Europe of brotherly nations."

more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/11/13/poland-defends-independence-day-march-organized-by-far-right-nationalists_a_23275509/

Rethel

11-13-2017, 05:48 PM

There was noone with the slogan "R1land Forever"... :pout:

Megadorian

11-13-2017, 05:58 PM

That is right, but EU wants to distribute refugees among all member states https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/sites/homeaffairs/files/what-we-do/policies/european-agenda-migration/background-information/docs/communication_on_the_european_agenda_on_migration_ annex_en.pdf
Many of these "refugees" who get asylum are simple ecomic migrants btw.

If you're so unhappy about migrant quotas and centralized decisions why don't the eastern block quit the EU alltogether?

You keep whining so much about a few refugees the EU is throwing at you meanwhile your fellow countrymen are over-filling the job markets in UK, Belgium, France, Scandinavia etc, the "liberal, pro-refugee undemocratic states" you hate so much!

Szegedist

11-13-2017, 07:21 PM

There was noone with the slogan "R1land Forever"... :pout:

Because these subhumans stayed home in their mothers basement. Did they Rethard ?

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 07:36 PM

there are almost no jew in poland
almost all of them died
it is ridiclous :banghead:
polako go figure lol :)

RN97

11-13-2017, 07:36 PM

you got it wrong

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?226509-2-mln-of-Ukrs-in-Poland-In-the-next-year-will-be-3-Don-t-you-think-enough-is-enough
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There are 38,634,007 people in Poland, most are Pollacks. What's the issue with taking in 2-3 million Ukrainians? They wouldn't be that hard to integrate even. Unless they exceed 10% of the population, I don't see it being an issue.

Jana

11-13-2017, 07:39 PM

Don't like it, can't imagine such marches in my country...

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 07:43 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Polish_sentiment

Veslan

11-13-2017, 07:46 PM

There was noone with the slogan "R1land Forever"... :pout:

Why didn't you join the march with this slogan then?

MissMischief

11-13-2017, 07:58 PM

How can Poland of all places support the Nazis? The last time Poland got really fucked up, it was by people with that exact ideology.

Peterski

11-13-2017, 08:02 PM

Anti-fascists were there as well, but you can't expect Western media to objective when covering events in Poland:

https://twitter.com/PawelGawel1410/status/929497468496240641/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOY9Az9X4AAf0tU.jpg:small

Rethel

11-13-2017, 08:05 PM

Why didn't you join the march with this slogan then?

I would gone in the mob... :pout:

Antimage

11-13-2017, 08:05 PM

How can Poland of all places support the Nazis? The last time Poland got really fucked up, it was by people with that exact ideology.

where does it say they're nazis

Rethel

11-13-2017, 08:07 PM

there are almost no jew in poland
almost all of them died
it is ridiclous :banghead:
polako go figure lol :)

Nope.
Hundrets of thousands migrated to US and Israel after the war,
and tens if not hundreds of thousands chose to assimilate.

Peterski

11-13-2017, 08:08 PM

How can Poland of all places support the Nazis? The last time Poland got really fucked up, it was by people with that exact ideology.

We don't support the Nazis. But the last time we got really fucked up was by Commies. The Nazis had been before that.

zhaoyun

11-13-2017, 08:10 PM

How can Poland of all places support the Nazis? The last time Poland got really fucked up, it was by people with that exact ideology.

It's weird seeing Slavs waving Nazi flags. It'd be like Chinese waving Japanese war flags.

Peterski

11-13-2017, 08:11 PM

where does it say they're nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEvT0RXmryo

It'd be like Chinese waving Japanese war flags.

I think there were some Celtic crosses but were there Nazi flags top? I seriously doubt it.

BTW, I'm sure that some Chinese collaborated with Japan during WW2.

Antimage

11-13-2017, 08:13 PM

It's weird seeing Slavs waving Nazi flags. It'd be like Chinese waving Japanese war flags.

But did they really wave nazi flags?

Peterski

11-13-2017, 08:17 PM

By the way, in my city it was different than in Warsaw:

https://repostuj.pl/upload/2017/11/11/8d7eb35e-96b1-4de7-afe1-5d5f5ab4541f.jpg

Ülev

11-13-2017, 08:19 PM

Rogal Świętomarciński (https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogal_%C5%9Bwi%C4%99tomarci%C5%84ski)- yummy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Rogale_%C5%9Bwi%C4%99tomarci%C5%84skie_RB1.JPG
I bought few rogals from Wolsztyn bakery (Karpicko)

zhaoyun

11-13-2017, 08:22 PM

But did they really wave nazi flags?

Ive seen some, though most don't probably

Antimage

11-13-2017, 08:25 PM

Ive seen some, though most don't probably

where?

Lucia

11-13-2017, 08:26 PM

By the way, in my city it was different than in Warsaw:

https://repostuj.pl/upload/2017/11/11/8d7eb35e-96b1-4de7-afe1-5d5f5ab4541f.jpg

All stands but.. listopad?? No logic in Poland, we don't call November listopad(leaffall) but studeni(cold). It's been snowing here today, the leaves already fell in October(listopad). :p

Ülev

11-13-2017, 08:29 PM

All stands but.. listopad?? No logic in Poland, we don't call November listopad(leaffall) but studeni(cold). It's been snowing here today, the leaves already fell in October(listopad). :p

lol, where?, in s-w .pl a few leafs still on trees (10 November)

s-w .pl +8

last leafs on the trees

https://s1.postimg.org/26q7lw1obz/abc.jpg

zhaoyun

11-13-2017, 08:29 PM

where?

Guess not in this instance, though I've seen Slavics use the Nazi flag.

dperucca

11-13-2017, 08:34 PM

I am not in Poland or Polish but I feel like the media is not completely unbiased in this case. The district that I currently work in has a large Polish/Polish American community and many feel it has nothing to do with nazis.

Mingle

11-13-2017, 08:35 PM

It's weird seeing Slavs waving Nazi flags. It'd be like Chinese waving Japanese war flags.

I don't see them waving Nazi flags as contradictory. Nazism is a broad ideology like socialism, producerism, bolshevism, etc. Just cause Hitler hated Slavs doesn't mean it is a core part of Nazism. Nazism is just socialist economics but for a particular nation (ethnic group) as opposed to all the country's inhabitants (regular socialism). I would say there's a difference between Hitlerism and Nazism.

Also, it wouldn't be similar to Chinese folk waving a Japanese war flag. The Slavic equivalent to that would be Slavs waving a Nazi Germany flag.

dperucca

11-13-2017, 08:38 PM

I don't see them waving Nazi flags as contradictory. Nazism is a broad ideology like socialism, producerism, bolshevism, etc. Just cause Hitler hated Slavs doesn't mean it is a core part of Nazism. Nazism is just socialist economics but for a particular nation (ethnic group) as opposed to all the country's inhabitants (regular socialism). I would say there's a difference between Hitlerism and Nazism.

Also, it wouldn't be similar to Chinese folk waving a Japanese war flag. The Slavic equivalent to that would be Slavs waving a Nazi Germany flag.
:icon_ask:

The Illyrian Warrior

11-13-2017, 08:43 PM

Antimage

11-13-2017, 08:45 PM

Ironically back in Hitler's days, these slavic 'muh wite race' knights would be one of the first to be made soap outta them, are they aware that preserving white heritage was Hitler ideology and as such slavs were seen on bottom of race ladder on same level with gypsies and blacks. We truly live in dark moments when stupid is being valued more than it should.
I'm sure Hitler wasn't the first and only one to want to "preseve white heritage"
and what does Hitler have anything to do with the protest anyway?

Antimage

11-13-2017, 08:45 PM

:icon_ask:

Nazi Germany flag=/= Nazi flag.

Veslan

11-13-2017, 08:52 PM

Ironically back in Hitler's days, these slavic 'muh wite race' knights would be one of the first to be made soap outta them, are they aware that preserving white heritage was de jure patented Hitler ideology and as such slavs were seen on bottom of race ladder on same level with gypsies and blacks. We truly live in dark moments when stupid is being valued more than it should.

Why the fuck do foreigners always have to mention "hurr durr hitler something something" when there is a discussion about Polish nationalists?
These people heroes (NSZ, AK, Konfederacja Narodu) fought against them during the WW2. And the most of Poles don't treat this war as an edgy conflict of ideologies, but as a conflict between Germans, the invaders, and us. We didn't fight Germans because they were "evil nazis", but because they were foreign invaders and occupiers. In fact Polish nationalism has anti-German (therefore "anti-Nazi") core.

Mingle

11-13-2017, 08:53 PM

:icon_ask:

If Slavs waved this flag, then they'd be self-haters:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Flag_of_the_German_Reich_%281933%E2%80%931935%29.s vg

Even though the Nazi flag was used by Nazi Germany, I took it to more broadly represent Nazism rather than Nazi Germany specifically. But there are other forms of Nazi symbolism that include the Swastika but are different from the flag Nazi Germany used.

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 08:53 PM

hittler was e-v13 he made all those r1.......something
his slaves
this i remember very well and those poles in the protest should know also. :)
it doesn't matter if he saw the poles as sub-human { they can still can have antisemitic feelings no matter}
the main target of the protest was Jews and Muslim less so the poles are in the top of the racial ladder

Antimage

11-13-2017, 08:57 PM

Why the fuck do foreigners always have to mention "hurr durr hitler something something" when there is a discussion about Polish nationalists?
These people heroes (NSZ, AK, Konfederacja Narodu) fought against them during the WW2. And the most of Poles don't treat this war as an edgy conflict of ideologies, but as a conflict between Germans, the invaders, and us. We didn't fight Germans because they were "evil nazis", but because they were foreign invaders and occupiers. In fact Polish nationalism has anti-German (therefore "anti-Nazi") core.

They're brainwashed to think anti immigration, nationalism=nazism. I blame it on the leftist media.

The Illyrian Warrior

11-13-2017, 08:58 PM

I'm sure Hitler wasn't the first one to want to "preseve white heritage"
and what does Hitler have anything to do with the protest anyway?

I'm pretty sure he was first also the only one who actually fought for preserving white race, his ideology was mostly made around this concept, nowadays I seen many Slavs who actually want to reincarnate this ideology however they seem unable to proceed that during that nostalgic years (to slav follower of ideology) they were highly unlikable and were counted subhumans on their concept.......In Poland this ideology is quite widespread (and most likely was initiated from them), Poland has biggest base of WN and Neo-Nazism in Slavic world therefore is easily connected with my statement.

Veslan

11-13-2017, 08:59 PM

They're brainwashed to think anti immigration, nationalism=nazism. I blame it on the leftist media.

Even the supposed right winger foreigners think like that. "Hurr durr polacks can't be nationalists because natzees wanted to kill 80% of them". Even on TA two diffrent persons wrote to me that I shouldn't be interested in racial classification because "hitler something something". :picard2:

Ülev

11-13-2017, 09:05 PM

do you have a calipers? for measurements

The Illyrian Warrior

11-13-2017, 09:08 PM

Why the fuck do foreigners always have to mention "hurr durr hitler something something" when there is a discussion about Polish nationalists?
These people heroes (NSZ, AK, Konfederacja Narodu) fought against them during the WW2. And the most of Poles don't treat this war as an edgy conflict of ideologies, but as a conflict between Germans, the invaders, and us. We didn't fight Germans because they were "evil nazis", but because they were foreign invaders and occupiers. In fact Polish nationalism has anti-German (therefore "anti-Nazi") core.

Do whatever the fuck you want there but I noticed that you (not you personally) confuse nationalism with white nationalism, you have mixed both in one banner from what I've seen, so it makes really hard for any foreign to differentiate unspoiled polish nationalism with neo-nazism which quite frankly you seem to have alot there.

Antimage

11-13-2017, 09:12 PM

I'm pretty he was first also the only one who actually fought for preserving white race, his ideology was mostly made around this concept, nowadays I seen many Slavs who actually want to reincarnate this ideology however they seem unable to proceed that during that nostalgic years (to slav follower of ideology) they were highly unlikable and were counted subhumans on their concept.......In Poland this ideology is quite widespread (and most likely was initiated from them), Poland has biggest base of WN and Neo-Nazism in Slavic world therefore is easily connected with my statement.

Any evidence the protestors were nazi? And no, ideology of white supremacy in America predates Hitler and Poles were Whites in USA.
What is your point exactly, that they can't be anti immigration and white nationalist "cuz hitler"? They're whatever the fuck they want to be

Mingle

11-13-2017, 09:24 PM

I'm pretty sure he was first also the only one who actually fought for preserving white race

I consider the White Australia policy to be an example of White nationalism. It started in 1901, I doubt it had anything to do with Nazism.

Veslan

11-13-2017, 09:26 PM

Do whatever the fuck you want there but I noticed that you (not you personally) confuse nationalism with white nationalism, you have mixed both in one banner from what I've seen, so it makes really hard for any foreign to differentiate unspoiled polish nationalism with neo-nazism which quite frankly you seem to have alot there.

Why can't a Pole be a "White nationalist" too? Poles are fucking White, and being Polish means also being White.

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 09:31 PM

first of all Slav are whites
there woman look better than western european woman
don't know hittler mised that . :picard2:
second hittler was Austrian and they have significant Slavic blood
from the balto -slavic genetic markers they score in dna tribes thats from results i saw.

The Illyrian Warrior

11-13-2017, 09:39 PM

Any evidence the protestors were nazi? And no, ideology of white supremacy in America predates Hitler and Poles were Whites in USA.
What is your point exactly, that they can't be anti immigration and white nationalist "cuz hitler"? They're whatever the fuck they want to be

The guys who did go out and protest for certainty were WN or supportive of that ideology as they were calling with 'Europe will be white, etc.' you can't challenge or refute that argument unless you reject any major media outlet and support your views from second or third tier sources, now all freaking WN I encounter or knows in one way or another has Hitler ideology as truly white nationalism example to follow, never seen a WN loath and reject Hitler legacy while at same time fighting for white cause, simple as that.

They can stand firm against immigration or be supportive of ethnic purity however waving or make gestures of nazi's like I used to see among 'nationalist' Poles and other Slavs often time, that's a hypocritical also stupid approach.

Antimage

11-13-2017, 09:41 PM

The guys who did go out and protest for certainty were WN or supportive of that ideology as they were calling with 'Europe will be white, etc.' you can't challenge or refute that argument unless you reject any major media outlet and support your views from second or third tier sources, now all freaking WN I encounter or knows in one way or another has Hitler ideology as truly white nationalism example to follow, never seen a WN loath and reject Hitler legacy while at same time fighting for white cause, simple as that.WN=/=Nazism

never seen a WN loath and reject Hitler legacy
They don't need to

waving or make gestures of nazi's like I used to see among 'nationalist' Poles and other Slavs often time, that's a hypocritical also stupid approach. I haven't seen such things

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-13-2017, 09:42 PM

Feeling jealous of Poland. We need a conscious youth in Portugal as well.

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 09:50 PM

Feeling jealous of Poland. We need a conscious youth in Portugal as well.

so go for it that would be great
don't forget to visit them
you are european from head to toe i don't denay that
but next to the poles there you would look swarthy you have the ideology you hate jews and racist but the look man you don't exactly look like them.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-13-2017, 09:52 PM

so go for it that would be great
don't forget to visit them
you are european from head to toe i don't denay that
but next to the poles there you would look swarthy you have the ideology you hate jews and racist but the look man you don't exactly look like them.

Bro, I used to live in Poland, lol. It's not like I need to visit them. Nothing happened to me and indeed I look exotic among them.

War Chef

11-13-2017, 09:55 PM

NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A NATIONALIST.

NATIONALISM IS STRENGTH.

let the others cry salty tears

The Illyrian Warrior

11-13-2017, 09:57 PM

WN=/=Nazism

I haven't seen such things

WN goes almost hand to hand with Nazism or in many cases interchangeable, not because media taught people that way but because all WN I know conditionally say, admit personally that they are strongly supportive of Nazism or are adherent to that ideology, it's only lately that I see a transformation tendency among some WN who deliberately want to distance from nazi ideology but that's done for practical reasons to gain more supporter, however I'm not convinced on their honesty because I still sense that Nazism lives very well in them, not because it bothers me but when I see Slavs do nazi gesture make me acquire strange feeling on how I am suppose to react to that shit.

I've seen many Poles and other Slavs do that.

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 09:58 PM

Bro, I used to live in Poland, lol. It's not like I need to visit them. Nothing happened to me and indeed I look exotic among them.

why the hell did you choose to live in poland lol:rotfl:

War Chef

11-13-2017, 10:00 PM

Nationalism is ethnocentric pride, doesn't need to be anything "white" about it. Though the Poles don't nearly deserve to have as much pride as my people.

Nothing to be proud of about letting both the Livonian order & Knights Templars set up in your country & take your Baltic coastline. Even for a month let alone 100's of years.

Antimage

11-13-2017, 10:00 PM

WN goes almost hand to hand with Nazism or in many cases interchangeable, not because media taught people that way but because all WN I know conditionally say, admit personally that they are strongly supportive of Nazism or are adherent to that ideology, it's only lately that I see a transformation tendency among some WN who deliberately want to distance from nazi ideology but that's done for practical reasons to gain more supporter, however I'm not convinced on their honesty because I still sense that Nazism lives very well in them, not because it bothers me however when I see Slavs do nazi gesture make me acquire strange feeling on how I am suppose to react to that shit.

I've seen many Poles and other Slavs do that.

So how do you know the protestors were nazi supporters? any evidence? Were you there and asked them personally? I have never seen a polish nazi btw.

Antimage

11-13-2017, 10:01 PM

War Chef

11-13-2017, 10:01 PM

why the hell did you choose to live in poland lol:rotfl:

Cute blondies of course

The Illyrian Warrior

11-13-2017, 10:04 PM

Feeling jealous of Poland. We need a conscious youth in Portugal as well.

Man, if Portuguese would raise up that would be a huge triracial WN club. :D

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-13-2017, 10:05 PM

why the hell did you choose to live in poland lol:rotfl:

http://visitgdansk.com/en/download/2016-09/610.png

Black Panther

11-13-2017, 10:08 PM

Man, if Portuguese would raise up that would be a huge triracial WN club. :D

Maybe biracial, but not triracial.

kingjohn

11-13-2017, 10:11 PM

i have also been in Poland but when i was 18 years old
to see the extermination camps the Nazis build in polish yard
so some people go to poland to have fun
wasn't me one of those .....

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-13-2017, 10:13 PM

Man, if Portuguese would raise up that would be a huge triracial WN club. :D

Who the fuck is talking about white nationalism, I am talking about plain nationalism like in a past not so long ago here in Portugal. The most exotic ethnic Portuguese ever is more European than the blondest Albanian, both culturally and genetically. Let me remind you that Albanians are the only "Europeans" that no other European nationalists wants by their side, especially White Nationalists since you're not even allowed among them.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-13-2017, 10:14 PM

i have also been in Poland but when i was 18 years old
to see the extermination camps the Nazis build in polish yard
so some people go to poland to have fun
wasn't me one of those .....

I have been to Auschwitz twice.

Peterski

11-13-2017, 10:15 PM

Nothing to be proud of about letting both the Livonian order & Knights Templars set up in your country & take your Baltic coastline. Even for a month let alone 100's of years.

But we always took it back every time after losing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRogtbUclEE

"Our grandfathers propped their lands
against the chest of the sea
Our fathers left their tribes
open to attack by the enemy

Our grandfathers flushed their swords
in the waves of the oceans
And we are flushing faults of our fathers
in our battle wounds"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQuo3Popn9Y

"Our fathers were content with salty and stale fish,
we are coming for fresh ones, splashing in the ocean

Our fathers were content when capturing strongholds,
we don't fear any storms, nor a nasty sound of sea waves.

Our fathers were going out deer hunting
we hunt treasures and sea monsters, hidden in the ocean."

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-13-2017, 10:16 PM

Maybe biracial, but not triracial.

:picard1:

Black Panther

11-13-2017, 10:31 PM

:picard1:

If you want to be technical, that is. I don't consider the Portuguese biracial. For me, you have to be more than 12% Black to be considered biracial.

MissMischief

11-13-2017, 10:32 PM

where does it say they're nazis

They're anti-Semitic far-right nationalists. What would you call them if not neo-nazis?

Dunai

11-13-2017, 10:33 PM

I'm impressed by the massive showing of mostly healthy and positive patriotism of tens of thousand of Poles on their streets. Such an image is unheard of in contemporary Europe, maybe with the exception of the hot patriotic fervor in Barcelona. The sea of Polish flags was indeed a glorious view to have and many Hungarian comrades were also there showing support for Polish Independence. Of course there were a few fascists and other extremist hot heads, but mostly regular Polish patriots were in the streets, and it's always encouraging when the people are getting back the streets.

Antimage

11-13-2017, 10:42 PM

They're anti-Semitic far-right nationalists. What would you call them if not neo-nazis?

Are they anti-capitalistic too? Real nazis were.

Ülev

11-13-2017, 10:53 PM

https://youtu.be/uUrT7U8g044

Magnolia

11-13-2017, 11:07 PM

MissMischief

11-13-2017, 11:14 PM

Are they anti-capitalistic too? Real nazis were.

I guess they are? Well, the policies commonly associated with nationalism go directly against the concept of free markets.

They're vehemently homophobic too.

In 2004, 2005, and 2006, All-Polish Youth members and sympathizers violently attacked people who were taking part in pro-gay demonstrations, throwing eggs, bottles and rocks at them, and were reported to have shouted "Send the fags to the hospital", "Perverts, get out of Kraków", "Let's gas the fags" and "We'll do to you what Hitler did to the Jews".

Dick

11-13-2017, 11:25 PM

Good for them.

https://youtu.be/KQTq07gihqg

Peterski

11-13-2017, 11:34 PM

Poles were always "racists", it is part of their culture

LOL, Poland was actually one of the most multicultural melting pots between the 1400s and WW2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OoSdnebLxw

Peterski

11-13-2017, 11:40 PM

They're vehemently homophobic too.

Yeah they are idiots.

Maybe they wouldn't be so homophobic if they knew that this Polish patriotic anthem was written by a lesbian:

http://inside-poland.com/t/the-ambiguous-maria-konopnicka/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIDq7vDXpE0

Kouros

11-13-2017, 11:54 PM

where does it say they're nazis

It doesn't, people just equate fascism with nazis whatever chance they get.

dperucca

11-14-2017, 12:19 AM

Magnolia

11-14-2017, 12:26 AM

LOL, Poland was actually one of the most multicultural melting pots between the 1400s and WW2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OoSdnebLxw

Modern History =/= reality.

Magnolia

11-14-2017, 12:43 AM

https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-could-seek-war-reparations-from-germany-say-parliament-researchers/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-should-pay-poland-1-trillion-reparations-world-war-ii-government-a7929561.html:cool:

What's wrong with that? Germany should pay their debts. Not only to Poland but to all countries that were harmed by Germany.
"Germany" led two awful wars during in the 20th century. They should pay for it.

Morena

11-14-2017, 12:47 AM

Good for them!

Black Panther

11-14-2017, 12:58 AM

Funny thing is Poland is one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. They are complaining about a non-issue, really.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 01:35 AM

Polish nationalists should distant themselves from Nazis/Neo-nazis and their subhuman misanthropic ideas about race.

Anti-immigration parties should show respect for all races, if they want to have a chance their voices to be heard.

There's nothing racist about being against multi-culturalism and wanting to preserve the Polish character in Poland. But it is irrational to hate other races and lecture about the superiority of white race. That creates resentment to other races who then begin to see whites as their enemy.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 01:38 AM

Funny thing is Poland is one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. They are complaining about a non-issue, really.

In the past decade they too started receiving many immigrants.

Magnolia

11-14-2017, 01:47 AM

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 02:01 AM

It is still racism. But it is a smart way of racism. Modern racists should be like that, only this way they can be accepted.

Whites do have a sense of superiority against other races, I am not sure if that is racism though. I don't think it is bad racism, if they also have a genuine interest in the well being of all people in the world, and not seek to exploit or exterminate other races.

Magnolia

11-14-2017, 02:11 AM

Whites do have a sense of superiority against other races, I am not sure if that is racism though. I don't think it is bad racism, if they also have a genuine interest in the well being of all people in the world, and not seek to exploit or exterminate other races.

I didn't say it was bad, I find it quite natural; they like the way they are and they want to stay the way they are. They didn't want to kill anyone, they just don't want to share the same society with them. But in core it is still about "1. we are better than they are 2. they are uncivilised lower human beings (1+2 applies to Muslims), they are evil's human beings (this goes for both Muslims and Jews).

Rumata

11-14-2017, 03:16 AM

I've never read the full article as I'm not registered there, but the Polish youth seems smart enough to learn from mistakes of the neighbors. Mass migration + multiculturalism is a destructive cocktail which eventually polarizes the society, producing more ultra right supporters. Timely preventive measures are necessary.

That said, I'm not even a big nationalist.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:43 AM

Funny thing is Poland is one of the most homogeneous countries in the world. They are complaining about a non-issue, really.

Should waite for couple of millions of Arabs, and then complain?

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:48 AM

LOL, Poland was actually one of the most multicultural melting pots between the 1400s and WW2:

It is not the same as today, becasue there was no integration, no equality,
every group lived separatly, and there was one unreplaceable chief volk. This
is, why it worked. Jews leftists couldn't get the High Court and promote abortion
and faggotry. Muslims couldnt influence politics to get them social supports or
promote them Islam in schools. Aso, aso, aso... and most important, there was
no autosomalists at all. Zero. Null. Nada. None.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:51 AM

They're vehemently homophobic too.

One good thing, which can be said about them... :)

Poles were always "racists", it is part of their culture - the result: one of the ethnically/genetically purest nation in Europe.

Becasue of stalinistic deportations we were always racists... yea... high logic... :picard1:

far-right

:picard2:

You don;t even know what they belive in, or do you not know the meaning of the word which you use?

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:56 AM

hittler was e-v13 he made all those r1.......something
his slaves

He tried to, but he wasn't able. Five years at best and lose totaly. Nothing to be proud of, really.
Why people here often are unable to differenciate trying from achieving and really doing??? :picard2:

Austrvegr

11-14-2017, 07:23 AM

hittler was e-v13

So the Holocaust was an inner-Jewish feud.

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 07:28 AM

He tried to, but he wasn't able. Five years at best and lose totaly. Nothing to be proud of, really.
Why people here often are unable to differenciate trying from achieving and really doing??? :picard2:

what ever make your r1 ego feal good jones
he was only stopped at russia because 2 factors
;)

a} Russian winter
b} to many resources were set for the extermination of the jews
instead of focus on the eastern front .

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 07:30 AM

So the Holocaust was an inner-Jewish feud.

why so ?????
hittler was balkan e-v13 this clade don't exist in jews
he was non jewish at all .

Austrvegr

11-14-2017, 07:34 AM

what ever make your r1 ego feal good jones
he was only stopped at russia because 2 factors
;)

a} Russian winter

Russian winter 1941-1945. 4 years, that is the usual Russian winter duration.

Austrvegr

11-14-2017, 07:40 AM

why so ?????
hittler was balkan e-v13 this clade don't exist in jews
he was non jewish at all .

Still, he was your Afrasian bro, even judging by his gesticulation.

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/d1d0f543fff0481b8ce5cf3af98a9385/hitler-adolf-2041889-3041945-german-politician-nsdap-chancellor-of-db3xd9.jpg

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 07:43 AM

he failed because of
b}
enough resources and equipment and soldiers and hewould have won
butin the end he also failed in b as i am talking to you right now
and my grandmother is aschenazi :)

Linebacker

11-14-2017, 07:48 AM

This has been drooled over in western right winger communities.

They need to read Robocops message,Slavs don't give a shit about them and their countries.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 08:29 AM

what ever make your r1 ego feal good jones
he was only stopped at russia because 2 factors
;)

a} Russian winter
b} to many resources were set for the extermination of the jews
instead of focus on the eastern front .

And what?
The explatanion why failed, doesn't
change the fact, that he was unable.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 08:29 AM

why so ?????
hittler was balkan e-v13 this clade don't exist in jews
he was non jewish at all .

Who said, that he was V13? Who and where?

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 09:21 AM

This has been drooled over in western right winger communities.

They need to read Robocops message,Slavs don't give a shit about them and their countries.

If they didn't they wouldn't have been so keen to join the EU.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 09:26 AM

Should waite for couple of millions of Arabs, and then complain?

1. Countries like France and Britain should take these Arab immigrants, rather than countries like Greece, Italy or Poland. Greeks even protested against the bombing of Iraq and Libya. Britain and France need to learn to stop intervening in Arabs affairs.

2. The EU must penalise countries like Morocco who refuse to take back Morrocans immigrants, many of who enter the EU illegally.

Linebacker

11-14-2017, 09:28 AM

If they didn't they wouldn't have been so keen to join the EU.

The EU has become a joke and now everybody is thinking how to leave without serious penalty.

In my country 70% of people are for leaving the EU,it has been small gains but mostly burdens for us.

The Illyrian Warrior

11-14-2017, 10:22 AM

So how do you know the protestors were nazi supporters? any evidence? Were you there and asked them personally? I have never seen a polish nazi btw.

Should I repeat myself again? Doesn't need additional evidence when evidence is right in your wall which I have illustrated to you how things work out with WN.....You can open YT if you're interested to see how Neo-Nazi Poles look like, you tent to think that Poles have nothing to do with Neo-Nazis at all but since you haven't seen them here you have one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVM7D5-oZzg

ЛыSSый

11-14-2017, 10:27 AM

https://otvet.imgsmail.ru/download/162f77bb1e52475e2a660ce82eccf2ff_i-21.jpg

Arjana

11-14-2017, 10:39 AM

Should I repeat myself again? Doesn't need additional evidence when evidence is right in your wall which I have illustrated to you how things work out with WN.....You can open YT if you're interested to see how Neo-Nazi Poles look like, you tent to think that Poles have nothing to do with Neo-Nazis at all but since you haven't seen them here you have one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVM7D5-oZzg

Polacks being neo nazis is the most ridiculous thing a human creature can do...

They were killed in the most terrible ways during WW2 by the 3rd Reich and if the 3rd Reich would have won the war, poland would have stopped to exist, literally

Arjana

11-14-2017, 10:41 AM

http://visitgdansk.com/en/download/2016-09/610.png

It is a german city, Portuguese mulatto.

It was raised and developed by Prussians and later one, 2nd Reich.

Arjana

11-14-2017, 10:49 AM

Who the fuck is talking about white nationalism, I am talking about plain nationalism like in a past not so long ago here in Portugal. The most exotic ethnic Portuguese ever is more European than the blondest Albanian, both culturally and genetically. Let me remind you that Albanians are the only "Europeans" that no other European nationalists wants by their side, especially White Nationalists since you're not even allowed among them.

How can a portugese , the most african influenced people in europe be '' whiter'' than some one else in europe???

You are the only people in europe ( maybe with some south italians) whose young males have an average height of 170 cm and look like a bunch of levantines from Jordan.

Sincerely, when i saw for the first time a groups of young guys from your people, i would have never thought of them to be from europe, height and racially wise.

You are the most negroid and maghrbeian influenced people on this continent, or you do you want me to post studies here???

As for '' culture'' , there is not such thing as europan culture and especially the so called '' europan culture '' of the after WW2 is disgusting and destructive and i dont want to be part of it.

'' white nationalists'' are a 180 degree turn of the policies of the 3rd Reich ( a state which would consider todays' neo nazis as subhumans) and considering how neo nazis and so called '' white nationalists'' behave and how dumb they are, for sure they are jewish sponsored to make their campaign ( which is in it's core right an just) appear dumb and idiotic.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 10:49 AM

It is a german city, Portuguese mulatto.

It was raised and developed by Prussians and later one, 2nd Reich.

No shit :picard1: Just let me correct you, it is a Polish city that was annexed by the Prussians it wasn't raised by them dummie. It is back to their rightful owners.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Gdanskmemorial.jpg

Arjana

11-14-2017, 10:50 AM

No shit :picard1: Just let me correct you, it is a Polish city that was annexed by the Prussians it wasn't raised by them dummie. It is back to their rightful owners.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Gdanskmemorial.jpg

It is a city developed by germans.

It's architecture is much more typical among germans.

Polaks came to Gdansk when it was populated by german tribes.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 10:55 AM

...

https://img.memecdn.com/ancient-illyrian_o_5904249.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/26u4bEWR4748af1T2/giphy.gif

Laberia

11-14-2017, 11:14 AM

Unbelievable!!!! The impotent maghrebin who pretend to be the defender of Europe. We live in a strange world and a crazy period of time.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 11:18 AM

https://img.memecdn.com/ancient-illyrian_o_5904249.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/26u4bEWR4748af1T2/giphy.gif

Illyrians were mostly NOT Christians, they rebelled against both Rome and Constantinople, they disagreed on both Catholic and Orthodox and previously Nicene teachings.

Many Illyrians are muslims, true europeans unlike you... Berber.

Root

11-14-2017, 11:18 AM

their country - their rules.. they know better what to do & they can do whatever and whenever they want

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 11:23 AM

Many Illyrians are muslims, true europeans unlike you... Berber.

https://j.gifs.com/g5rGYD.gif

The Illyrian Warrior

11-14-2017, 11:23 AM

Who the fuck is talking about white nationalism, I am talking about plain nationalism like in a past not so long ago here in Portugal. The most exotic ethnic Portuguese ever is more European than the blondest Albanian, both culturally and genetically. Let me remind you that Albanians are the only "Europeans" that no other European nationalists wants by their side, especially White Nationalists since you're not even allowed among them.

I wanted to tease you but I expected more chill answer tbh :D, now since you were serious with answers I give a blunt honest answer to you, the reality with Albanians is they rarely visit forums of this kind even less have information about WN nationalism movement they not only careless about them but honestly they know little if anything about them, besides I wouldn't be so worried about when a group of people who attract mostly no lifers into their movement who among other are ousted by society for not accepting me, in fact I carry this as badge of honor since I don't want to be part of WN movement who amongst all attracts people with no social skills and have serious problem with anxiety hence why they are easily manipulated by WN, Albanians are nationalist but not into this brand, do not mistake few Albanians you know here with random Albanians I talk with daily, if I talked to them about WN or anthropology they would actually laugh at me, not joking.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 11:27 AM

https://j.gifs.com/g5rGYD.gif

It's funny how Berber want to kill Europeans.

Can't accept the fact that Islam is European religion.

You ancestors are: Abd-ar Rahman I, Tariq ibn Ziyad, Ibn Abd-el-Hakem NOT MINE.... YOURS

You are a Kebab boy..... from Kebabia (Spain & Portugal)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 11:37 AM

It's funny how Berber want to kill Europeans.

Can't accept the fact that Islam is European religion.

You ancestors are: Abd-ar Rahman I, Tariq ibn Ziyad, Ibn Abd-el-Hakem NOT MINE.... YOURS

You are a Kebab boy..... from Kebabia (Spain & Portugal)

Since when do I want to kill Europeans or any other person for the matter.

I don't know who is more hilarious and out of touch with reality, if Muslim majority Albanians calling me Moor or Serbian Muslims a.k.a. Bosniaks that only exist as an artificial ethnicity because of Islam calling me Berber, Arab and what not.

Especially coming from a guy with identity crisis, that is 30% EastMed\RedSea\WestAsian and that scores North African on most calculators. You change your heritage as I change my underwear, ancient Roman descendant yesterday and today a Muslim Illyrian of Slavic ancestry, which apparently is European to you.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 11:44 AM

Since when do I want to kill Europeans or any other person for the matter.

I don't know who is more hilarious and out of touch with reality, if Muslim majority Albanians calling me Moor or Serbian Muslims a.k.a. Bosniaks that only exist as an artificial ethnicity because of Islam calling me Berber, Arab and what not.

Especially coming from a guy with identity crisis, that is 30% EastMed\RedSea\WestAsian and that scores North African on most calculators. You change your heritage as I change my underwear, ancient Roman descendant yesterday and today a Muslim Illyrian of Slavic ancestry, which apparently is European to you.

That meme you posted is a real guy that was killed. You have openly showed your support for that.

What EastMed/RedSea/WestAsian? What are you babbling about?

Whatever I have is still better than Berber/Moor scores you have kebab boy.

Don't talk about Balkans, Illyrians... that shouldn't concern YOU. You would be regarded foreigner here as much as any Turk or Arab.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 11:44 AM

It's funny how Berber want to kill Europeans.

Can't accept the fact that Islam is European religion.

You ancestors are: Abd-ar Rahman I, Tariq ibn Ziyad, Ibn Abd-el-Hakem NOT MINE.... YOURS

You are a Kebab boy..... from Kebabia (Spain & Portugal)

Islam is not European. It never was.

The official Roman religion (no matter if it is polytheism or christianity) was born to the area, to lands inside the Roman empire. Islam was a religion that was imported from a land outside of the borders of Roman empire and was in a complete difference with the way of life of the people of the Roman/Byzantine, the local natives empire.

The Ottomans who imported Islam to Europe, tended to find its historical continuity with their nomadic ancestry from central Asia and with the originally Arabic Islam, hardly with the bulk of the Christian Romans. The latter had perpetually remained a conquered, subjugated and largely unassimilated alien population for the former.

So no, it would not be accurate to say that Islam is European. If anything, it was a sharper, more violent break than in most similar conquests over the history of that general region of the world. Natives became a subjugated people and slaves of the Muslims.

Linebacker

11-14-2017, 11:45 AM

How did Al-Benians manage to ruin another thread on the forum,it is never possible to have a civilized discussion with this goats

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 11:45 AM

Islam is not European. It never were.

The official Roman religion (no matter if it is polytheism or christianity) was born to the area, to lands inside the Roman empire. Islam was a religion that imported from a land outside of the borders of Roman empire and was in a complete difference with the way of life of the people of the Roman/Byzantine, the local natives empire.

The Ottomans who imported Islam to Europe, tended to find its historical continuity with their nomadic ancestry from central Asia and with the originally Arabic Islam, hardly with the bulk of the Christian Romans. The latter had perpetually remained as a conquered , subjugated and largely unassimilated alien population for the former.

So no, it would not be accurate to say that Islam is European. If anything, it was a sharper, more violent break than in most similar conquests over the history of that general region of the world. Natives became a subjugated people and slaves of Allah.

I am a muslim, as well as 5+ million people of Balkans, therefore it's European except if you deny that we are Europeans.

We don't give a fuck about Christians and their opinion about us. We were here before Jesus was invented, We were here before anything you can imagine.

So Yes we are Europeans and Yes Islam is European religion.

Fractal

11-14-2017, 11:46 AM

Islam is not European. It never was.

The official Roman religion (no matter if it is polytheism or christianity) was born to the area, to lands inside the Roman empire. Islam was a religion that was imported from a land outside of the borders of Roman empire and was in a complete difference with the way of life of the people of the Roman/Byzantine, the local natives empire.

The Ottomans who imported Islam to Europe, tended to find its historical continuity with their nomadic ancestry from central Asia and with the originally Arabic Islam, hardly with the bulk of the Christian Romans. The latter had perpetually remained a conquered, subjugated and largely unassimilated alien population for the former.

So no, it would not be accurate to say that Islam is European. If anything, it was a sharper, more violent break than in most similar conquests over the history of that general region of the world. Natives became a subjugated people and slaves of Allah.

Christianity is as foreign to Northern Europe as Islam. Germans and Scandinavians should abandon it and re-claim their ancient Pagan myths.

Ülev

11-14-2017, 11:48 AM

Polish Senate Speaker calls remark by ex Hillary Clinton aide ‘brazen lie’

14.11.2017 12:08
A high-ranking Polish senator has slammed a tweet by a former adviser to Hillary Clinton that denounced an Independence Day gathering in Warsaw as a "Nazi" march.

Jesse Lehrich, a former foreign policy spokesman for Hillary Clinton, has written on Twitter that “60,000 Nazis marched on Warsaw” on November 11, Poland’s Independence Day.

"This is a brazen lie," Stanisław Karczewski, the Speaker of the upper house of Poland’s parliament, said on Tuesday morning.

“We have to counter" this kind of allegation, and "of course we will intervene in various ways,” Karczewski told public broadcaster Polish Radio 1.

"Wherever we are, wherever we will be, we will be saying that this is false information," he said.

Karczewski added that Poland’s ruling conservatives condemned and distanced themselves from any "extreme behaviour" that occurred during the march. He added that a "small group" of participants in Saturday’s gathering was responsible for such "excesses," which he said he hoped would not occur in the future.

Most of those taking part in the Independence March were peaceful, according to Karczewski. "The march was a sea of red-and-white flags; it was very peaceful, with families, young people, children," he said.

No room for xenophobia: president

Polish President Andrzej Duda said on Monday that “there is no room … in our country for xenophobia, for pathological nationalism, for anti-Semitism.”

“Such approaches mean exclusion from our society,” he added.

“One can’t equate patriotism with nationalism,” he also said while speaking to residents in the south-western town of Krapkowice on Monday evening. “These are two completely opposite notions and two totally opposite approaches.”

'Fringe of the fringe': Polish ruling party leader

When asked about the march in a media interview, the leader of Poland’s ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, Jarosław Kaczyński, said that his group referred to traditions that “have nothing to do with anti-Semitism or racism.”

He said that "there were some extremely unfortunate" and "completely unacceptable" incidents during the march, but added that these occurrences were the "fringe of the fringe" and that they were “very likely a provocation.”

“Those who want to harm Poland know perfectly well how to do that," he told public broadcaster TVP on Monday evening. "These kinds of slogans, this kind of nonsense, shameful nonsense, is very damaging to us," he added.

The Independence Day march had an umbrella slogan of “We Want God,” a line from a religious song.

Some 60,000 people took part in the march, according to police figures. Participants waved Polish flags, some of them with various patriotic symbols on them, as well as other flags and banners, one including the slogan “Death to enemies of the fatherland.”

Other banners brandished slogans such as “Europe will be white or uninhabited” and “A white Europe of fraternal nations.”

(gs/pk)

Source: PAP, IAR, wpolityce.pl

http://thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/334987,Polish-Senate-Speaker-calls-remark-by-ex-Hillary-Clinton-aide-%E2%80%98brazen-lie%E2%80%99

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 11:48 AM

Whatever I have is still better than Berber/Moor scores you have kebab boy.

How are Iberians moors if they kicked the moors out of Europe? If it wasn't for them Islam would probably have expanded to the rest of Western Europe.

Peterski

11-14-2017, 11:51 AM

It is a german city, Portuguese mulatto.

It was raised and developed by Prussians and later one, 2nd Reich.

No it is not. In 1770 Gdansk was multi-ethnic, 58% were Germans and 42% were Poles and others.*

It became more German after the First Partition of Poland when Brandenburg-Prussia took it from us.

*Source:

B. Szady, "Geografia struktur religijnych i wyznaniowych w Koronie w II połowie XVIII wieku", page 165:

https://www.kul.pl/files/845/pdf/szady_geografia_struktur_2010.pdf

This 58% can actually be overestimated, because it is from German sources (G. Dabinnus & M. Aschkewitz).

So in reality Germans could be less than half of the city's population shortly before the Partitions of Poland.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 11:52 AM

Christianity is as foreign to Northern Europe as Islam. Germans and Scandinavians should abandon it and re-claim their ancient Pagan myths.

Christianity is full of paganistic rites, and neoplatonic philosophy, another reason why it is European.

The Christmas tree, the celebration of Christmas on Dec 25th, the honoring of Saints all have their roots to 'Paganism'.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 11:52 AM

That meme you posted is a real guy that was killed. You have openly showed your support for that.

What EastMed/RedSea/WestAsian? What are you babbling about?

Whatever I have is still better than Berber/Moor scores you have kebab boy.

Don't talk about Balkans, Illyrians... that shouldn't concern YOU. You would be regarded foreigner here as much as any Turk or Arab.

I am "babbling" about the scores you got on your calculators. Are you aware in which populations those markers peak?

I don't support anything and I wasn't even aware or care what happened you little sensitive Balkanigga, you guys get triggered with anything so I just googled "remove kebab Bosnia" and posted the first thing that appeared.

Your Y-DNA is textbook Slavic, I wasn't aware that Illyrians were Slavic and that Serbians that converted to Islam and Turks that remained in the region were their descents. Interesting.

Of course I would stand out in Bosnia and thank God for it, last thing I would want is to look like one of yours.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 11:56 AM

How are Iberians moors if they kicked the moors out of Europe? If it wasn't for them Islam would probably have expanded to the rest of Western Europe.

I am very happy that we are muslims, so we don't have to follow Rome or Constantinople (we never did), not even in Ancient Times.

You have no tolerance towards different European Religions, I wonder what happened to Hellenic Pagans, Illyrian Pagans probably your pious Christians slayed them all in the name of your God.

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 11:58 AM

Who said, that he was V13? Who and where?

common if he was e1b1b1 with roots in austria
most of the chances he was e-v13 and not e-m123 or e-m81 :picard2:

Ülev

11-14-2017, 11:58 AM

Organizatorzy Marszu Niepodległości pozwą „Rzeczpospolitą” i inne media za „szkalowanie uczestników” tegorocznej manifestacji
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Organizers of the March of Independence will sue "Rzeczpospolita" and other media for "defaming the participants" of this year's manifesto

http://www.wirtualnemedia.pl/artykul/organizatorzy-marszu-niepodleglosci-pozwa-rzeczpospolita-i-inne-media-za-szkalowanie-uczestnikow-tegorocznej-manifestacji

- Nie można w świetle prawa mówić o drugiej osobie czy o podmiocie prawnym, że jest „faszystą” czy „nazistą”. Takie określenia są niedopuszczalne, będziemy się im sprzeciwiać – zapowiada Damian Kita.
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- You can not legally speak of the other person or legal entity as being a "Nazi" or "fascist". Such terms are unacceptable, we will oppose them - said Damian Kita.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 12:02 PM

I am "babbling" about the scores you got on your calculators. Are you aware in which populations those markers peak?

I don't support anything and I wasn't even aware or care what happened you little sensitive Balkanigga, you guys get triggered with anything so I just googled "remove kebab Bosnia" and posted the first thing that appeared.

Your Y-DNA is textbook Slavic, I wasn't aware that Illyrians were Slavic and that Serbians that converted to Islam and Turks that remained in the region were their descents. Interesting.

Of course I would stand out in Bosnia and thank God for it, last thing I would want is to look like one of yours.

We mixed with Slavs.

I am probably 50% Ukraine/Poland + 50% Albanian/Greek

https://i.imgur.com/F282tRi.png

I am proud of my ancestry.

Show us your K36 map when you are so quick to call us for "Removal".

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 12:04 PM

Show us your K36 map when you are so quick to call us for "Removal".

https://s14.postimg.org/73uuj40r5/k36.jpg

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 12:09 PM

https://s14.postimg.org/73uuj40r5/k36.jpg

You are more related to Serbs and Bosnians than Greeks yet you call for "Removal"

Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia = 62,61,63

Greece, Albania = 57, 51

Also show us Africa... let's see how close you are to Kebabs.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 12:20 PM

I am very happy that we are muslims, so we don't have to follow Rome or Constantinople (we never did), not even in Ancient Times.

You have no tolerance towards different European Religions, I wonder what happened to Hellenic Pagans, Illyrian Pagans probably your pious Christians slayed them all in the name of your God.

The Hellenic polytheists became Greek Orthodox. There was no such thing as paganism in Greece. The Hellenic religion was ancestor worship and was developed and practiced in cities so cant be called pagan which means countryside. The Hellenic religion was city based. Greeks worshipped their biological ancestors who founded their cities and these state Gods,were recognised and respected by the founders of the Christian church as what they were, deified ancestors. Every ancient religion was based on ancestor worship.

Antimage

11-14-2017, 12:21 PM

Should I repeat myself again? Doesn't need additional evidence when evidence is right in your wall which I have illustrated to you how things work out with WN.....You can open YT if you're interested to see how Neo-Nazi Poles look like, you tent to think that Poles have nothing to do with Neo-Nazis at all but since you haven't seen them here you have one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVM7D5-oZzg

If they're indeed nazi then you are right that they're hypocrite, but I think most people who showed up in the recent protest weren't nazi. If they want to keep Poland ethnically polish then they should have right to it.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 12:24 PM

We mixed with Slavs.

I am probably 50% Ukraine/Poland + 50% Albanian/Greek

https://i.imgur.com/F282tRi.png

I am proud of my ancestry.

Show us your K36 map when you are so quick to call us for "Removal".

He calls for the removal of the kebab ideology called Islam. Recall how Alija Izetbekovic envisioned a Caliphate and a Sharia for all Muslims, whether those Muslims were European/Mena or not.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 12:25 PM

The Hellenic polytheists became Greek Orthodox. There was no such thing as paganism in Greece. The Hellenic religion was ancestor worship and was developed and practiced in cities so cant be called pagan which means countryside. The Hellenic religion was city based. Greeks worshipped their biological ancestors who founded their cities and these state Gods,were recognised and respected by the founders of the Christian church as what they were, deified ancestors. Every ancient religion including Judaism and Christianity was based on ancestor worship.

Zeus exist even today silly girl, he was never human... Zeus/Amon/Serapis/Az etc.. Surpreme King of Demons who lives on Earth, whom your Christians call "Satan" nowdays.

Your ancestors worshiped Demonic entities.

But you as a Christian surely know a lot about them right?

"Ancestor Worship"... if they were misguided, they weren't morons.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 12:26 PM

He calls for the removal of the kebab ideology called Islam. Recall how Alija Izetbekovic envisioned a Caliphate and a Sharia for all Muslims, whether those Muslims were European or Mena.

He envisioned for Muslims, just like Constantine I envisioned New Testament for Christian followers. Do you have problem with that?

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 12:39 PM

He envisioned for Muslims, just like Constantine I envisioned New Testament for Christian followers. Do you have problem with that?

I do because Islam is against European values which are based on Roman and Greek values like respect for democracy, freedom, justice and the rule of law which is something that Islam has never had any regard for and why there has never been an Islamic democracy.

It was the Roman Empire (including the Byzantines) which made Europe. The peoples who were the perpetual enemies of Rome and did not accept Roman civilisations, culture, morality, democracy and law which was based on that of the Greeks are not Europeans.

The Persians never embraced Rome and the Turks destroyed it and exterminated its peoples. The Arabs were always attacking Rome and believed in slavery even after the Romans abolished it.

Islam does not preach repentance and demands intolerance of other beliefs and other peoples and their laws. It preaches that the Muslim must not live with Jews, Christians and Pagans and is always right to perpetrate whatever crimes he wishes against non-Muslims.

Compare and contrast Christian Germany with Muslim Turkey. German recognised its crimes against humanity, apologised and repented and made reparations. Turkey has never recognised its crimes against humanity, has never apologised and repented and had never made reparations.

This is because Turkey has no appreciation for European values. Islamic countries all base their laws, society and culture on the savagery and this make it impossible to be part of Europe whose society is not rooted in the days of barbarism.

Bosniensis

11-14-2017, 12:55 PM

I do because Islam is against European values which are based on Roman and Greek values like respect for democracy, freedom, justice and the rule of law which is something that Islam has never had any regard for and why there has never been an Islamic democracy.

It was the Roman Empire (including the Byzantines) which made Europe. The peoples who were the perpetual enemies of Rome and did not accept Roman civilisations, culture, morality, democracy and law which was based on that of the Greeks are not Europeans.

The Persians never embraced Rome and the Turks destroyed it and exterminated its peoples. The Arabs were always attacking Rome and believed in slavery even after the Romans abolished it.

Islam does not preach repentance and demands intolerance of other beliefs and other peoples and their laws. It preaches that the Muslim must not live with Jews, Christians and Pagans and is always right to perpetrate whatever crimes he wishes against non-Muslims.

Compare and contrast Christian Germany with Muslim Turkey. German recognised its crimes against humanity, apologised and repented and made reparations. Turkey has never recognised its crimes against humanity, has never apologised and repented and had never made reparations.

This is because Turkey has no appreciation for European values. Islamic countries all base their laws, society and culture on the savagery and this make it impossible to be part of Europe whose society is not rooted in the days of barbarism.

You are not Muslim, you don't know our religion our laws.

You know nothing about tolerance in Islam so you are not qualified to talk about it.

Truth is we have many enemies who POSE AS MUSLIMS, and you are getting info from them.

Islamic government or representatives are dead for 150-200 years now.

We don't have Islamic Government but Religious institution.

If you think that those ISIS, Wahabbi people are muslims... that's like.. YOUR OPINION, they are not recognized
by Islamic Institution of Bosnia nor by Islamic Institution of Turkey, they are just Terrorists and they can't represent
Islam in the world.

My partial Ancestors (Illyrians) existed before Rome and any Roman/Byzantine Empire Culture on Balkans.. I can't be lectured
by your people on Cultural subject.

Your people still whine about how Diocletian committed mass murders of Christians, yet nowdays you wish that same thing happen to
us muslims... Those ISIS fighters are funded by Christians (Americans) even Putin admitted that... so don't compare Islam with Isis (as you usually do).

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 01:06 PM

Zeus exist even today silly girl, he was never human... Zeus/Amon/Serapis/Az etc.. Surpreme King of Demons who lives on Earth, whom your Christians call "Satan" nowdays.

Your ancestors worshiped Demonic entities.

But you as a Christian surely know a lot about them right?

"Ancestor Worship"... if they were misguided, they weren't morons.

Read Apollodorus and Diodorus and what other historians wrote. Zeus was born in Crete, and not only was a historical king that lived around 1675 BC, his name is also recorded in Minoan and Hyksos inscriptions as a king of Crete at Tylissos and Lyktos/Lato and Egypt and his father's name Saturn is recorded in Minoan inscriptions as a king of Crete from the time he lived.

In Minoan times the name Zeus was pronounced Sdeus. Sa-a-si-te-pi was Zeus. Zeus is also referred to in Egyptian inscriptions from the same time as Sheshi. Sheshi is identical to hyksos king Saasi. The fact that the Hyksos were foreign invaders adds to the evidence that Sheshi was Zeus. Historical accounts say that Zeus ruled over Egypt and the whole world, not just Greece.

Every ancient historian accepted Zeus as being a deified king of Crete and the ancestor of the Greeks that worshiped him. Even Newton accepted it. There is not one historical text which even remotely suggests anything to the contrary. If it is written as historical fact then it must be accepted as historical fact unless evidence is found to prove that it is fiction. No evidence exists to prove that the reign of Zeus is fiction or to even suggest that it might have been.

Each city state, town, village had its own state Gods who founded those cities. For example Athens worshiped Athena and Argos worshiped Hera. Hephaestus was first considered to be a son of Hera and an ancient king. Secondly he was considered a God of the state. He was associated with the forge because of what he did, and therefore the guide of blacksmiths adopted him as their patron deity, as kind of mascot, and thus his memory was preserved, which was the who purpose of worship in the first place. Preserving the memory of the ancestors.

The historical fact is that all of the Gods and Heroes in Greek mythology were the ancestors of the people who worshiped them for generation upon generation in over 200 Greek city states. They had grave sites, temples, their bodies were venerated, and the structures that they built when they lived could be visited by their descendents for millennia.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

11-14-2017, 01:13 PM

You are more related to Serbs and Bosnians than Greeks yet you call for "Removal"

Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia = 62,61,63

Greece, Albania = 57, 51

Also show us Africa... let's see how close you are to Kebabs.

You do realize that "Kebab" is a slang for Turks and Balkan Muslims like Bosniaks and Albanians, right? :picard1: It has nothing to do with Africa as the dish is not even traditionally found in the region.

You even had to crop the map of Europe to just show the Balkan region...that's how dissimilar you must be with other regions of Europe. Or maybe it was to not show how similar you're with Turks.

I feel closer to Greeks than to any other nation from the Balkan peninsula culturally wise. It is the nation where my phenotype overlaps the best as well on the region.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 01:25 PM

You are not Muslim, you don't know our religion our laws.

You know nothing about tolerance in Islam so you are not qualified to talk about it.

Truth is we have many enemies who POSE AS MUSLIMS, and you are getting info from them.

Islamic government or representatives are dead for 150-200 years now.

We don't have Islamic Government but Religious institution.

If you think that those ISIS, Wahabbi people are muslims... that's like.. YOUR OPINION, they are not recognized
by Islamic Institution of Bosnia nor by Islamic Institution of Turkey, they are just Terrorists and they can't represent
Islam in the world.

My partial Ancestors (Illyrians) existed before Rome and any Roman/Byzantine Empire Culture on Balkans.. I can't be lectured
by your people on Cultural subject.

Your people still whine about how Diocletian committed mass murders of Christians, yet nowdays you wish that same thing happen to
us muslims... Those ISIS fighters are funded by Christians (Americans) even Putin admitted that... so don't compare Islam with Isis (as you usually do).

Although Bosnians may ascribe to their own version of Islam, there will always be those radicalized Bosnians who will act as trojan horses within Bosnia and the Eu should they join. You may try to convince them that Islam is a tolerant religion, but they won't care about your version of Islam, they will care about the one version of Islam that was taught by Muhammad. And unfortunately Muhammad's version of Islam, its sunna and the Quran is on the side of fundamentalists, not yours.

wvwvw

11-14-2017, 01:31 PM

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 01:37 PM

i like this food tasty :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab

Magnolia

11-14-2017, 01:48 PM

Balkan war again :lol:.
Go away!

Btw. Islam is far from being a European religion.

Lucia

11-14-2017, 01:56 PM

Anyway remove kebab in the case of Bosnians means the removal of radicalized Islam from the country, i.e bosnians should stop acting like the stooges of Turkey or the wahhabis, should remove the adoption of arab customs and dressing codes etc, and adopt or preserve freedom of speech, rule of law tolerance for unbelievers, etc

Well, since a genocide was commited against them, maybe it’s better to avoid that term.
Otherwise I agree, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have become too involved in this country in the middle of Europe while the EU are closing their eyes about it.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 02:00 PM

common if he was e1b1b1 with roots in austria
most of the chances he was e-v13 and not e-m123 or e-m81 :picard2:

So you don;'t know.

He didn't have roots in Austria as his grandfather was a Jew.
In that case it is slightly probable, that he was V13, could, but also more probable could be not.

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 02:34 PM

his grandfather wasn't a jew it is just a rumor
he was balkanoid e-v13 with no jewish roots austrian from head to toe
napoleon was e-m123 -m34-L791
hitler was e-v13
as stears use to say
deal with it.:p

Ülev

11-14-2017, 05:33 PM

Polish professional boxer and kickboxer born in Szczecin Izu Ugonoh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izu_Ugonoh): In Poland there is no racism, there is ignorance.

https://youtu.be/qBqLh18AdIE

in short:

You look at the other person, you do not know anything about him, and you come out of different assumptions. And that is something that is not quite depend from the color of the skin. He just does not accept it. It is how it is. I think Poles are more tolerant. And it's not a matter of accepting everything as it goes. I believe everyone has the right to his own opinion. For example, I would not like someone to tell me whom I have to like. Because it is fashionable or popular. I like people for who they are.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 05:49 PM

his grandfather wasn't a jew it is just a rumor

Not a rumor. The only thing which is known about.
If you know better, tell, who he was and how can you prove it.

Tong

11-14-2017, 05:51 PM

lowkey poland is sort of a leech, sucks up to american jews and the west, while getting so much praise for denying migrants (not that it's bad)

Tong

11-14-2017, 05:52 PM

So you don;'t know.

He didn't have roots in Austria as his grandfather was a Jew.
In that case it is slightly probable, that he was V13, could, but also more probable could be not.

The only non austrian ancestor he had was czech

Rethel

11-14-2017, 05:53 PM

The only non austrian ancestor he had was czech

And a Jew. The Jew.

Tong

11-14-2017, 05:59 PM

And a Jew. The Jew.

proof? Thats a rumour i thought
if he had jew blood that close he wouldve gassed himself

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 06:13 PM

proof? Thats a rumour i thought
if he had jew blood that close he wouldve gassed himself

to think that the man who brought the biggest destruction ever to jewsin there history
is part jewish is ridiculous:picard1:
personally for me it is funny how rethel really think he was part jewish i think his breaking records here in stupidity :patpat:

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:29 PM

proof? Thats a rumour i thought
if he had jew blood that close he wouldve gassed himself

He destroyed his ancestral village when he anschlußed
the Austria. Why do you think he did this? WHY?

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 06:35 PM

He destroyed his ancestral village when he anschlußed
the Austria. Why do you think he did this? WHY?

here you go genius tell me were is the jews in his family ??????? :coffee:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/family/Hitlers_familytree.gif

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:36 PM

to think that the man who brought the biggest destruction ever to jewsin there history
is part jewish is ridiculous:picard1:

Why?
The more selfhater and denialist, the bigger freak he is.
So who was his grandfather?

Btw i german army served hundreds of thousands of Jews and para-Jews.
Many were on very prominent positions, taking part in extermination.
Some were even generals.

Btw, the main opinion about reasons of jewish genocide is the fact, that
after some jewish congress, european Jews didn;t want to migrate to Palestine,
so to mobilized them american Jews did sponsor the Nazi party and casue the
panishable genicide. And, btw, if this was a coincidental genicide, why Jewish
activists so desperatly claim the name holocaust and number 6 mln, even if
the summarized number was much higher once, and other proposals are lower?
To who did you sacrifice your brethren, that you insist on calling this like that?

Knowing the satanists who rule over you, it is very possible scenario. I woudn't
be eve shocked, if Hitler would be a conscious of his role in such jewish plan.

personally for me it is funny how rethel really think he was part jewish i think his breaking records here in stupidity :patpat:

I do not think he was part jewish.

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:37 PM

here you go genius tell me were is the jews in his family ??????? :coffee:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/family/Hitlers_familytree.gif

And who was the father of Alois?
You showed the picture without the grandfather, you genious. :picard2:

Rethel

11-14-2017, 06:38 PM

proof? Thats a rumour i thought
if he had jew blood that close he wouldve gassed himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZVeAAUaD0M

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 06:48 PM

Accordingly, Johann Georg Hiedler {Hitler real grandfather}is one of three people often cited as having possibly been the biological grandfather of Adolf Hitler. The other two are Johann Nepomuk and a Graz Jew by the name of Leopold Frankenberger (rumored by ex-Nazi Hans Frank during the Nuremberg Trials). In the 1950s, the third possibility became popular among historians, but modern historians have concluded that Frank's speculation has no factual support. Frank said that Maria came from "Leonding near Linz", when in fact she came from the hamlet of Strones, near the village of Döllersheim. No evidence has ever been found that a "Frankenberger" lived in the area; the Jews were expelled from Styria (which includes Graz) in the 15th century and were not permitted to return until the 1860s, several decades after Alois' birth.[10][11][12] Although Alois was legitimized and Johann Georg was considered the officially accepted paternal grandfather of Hitler by the Third Reich, whether he was Hitler's biological grandfather remains unknown and has caused speculation.[13][14][15] However, his case is considered the most plausible and widely accepted.[4]

Longbowman

11-14-2017, 10:08 PM

Fucking jewish newspapers and their paywalls! Longbowman, fix it!

no, gib shekels

kingjohn

11-14-2017, 10:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZVeAAUaD0M

e1b1b1 is not recent
was found in5000 bc avellander cave
in 5000 bc croatia
and 4700 bc sopot culture
this damn videos was before all those were found
e-v13 is neolithic in eurupe they were farmers who gave you civilization :thumb001:

and even in the near east m123 is not recent after the natufian bones were found positive for e1b1b1 we are talking about 9000 bc thats not recent
e1b1b1 die Natufianer :thumb001:

aryan my ass the real aryan are fractal and his friends not germans and not poles ....
i am a shame that i have dna from slavs :picard1:
9% my heritage, 11% myorigins 2.0 , and 13% in dna tribes snp report.{genetic signitures test}

Gold-Shekel

11-16-2017, 10:44 AM

Poland which has virtually no Muslims is calling for a Muslim Holocaust, didn't you learn anything from the last time? You're going to become Russia and for a long time, maybe some Chechens will take your houses, would be quite funny.

Austrvegr

11-16-2017, 11:15 AM

Poles' concerns are fully justified, everywhere in the West Jews support and promote Muslim invasion.

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 11:17 AM

Balkan war again :lol:.
Go away!

Btw. Islam is far from being a European religion.

I've made it European.

It is I who decide what is European and what isn't in Europe (Balkans).

5 million Europeans decided to proclaim Islam as European religion, and not those
who came from Asia Europeans but those who lived here for the last few millennia.

I2, E1b, J2 Europeans

If Albanians, Bosnians proclaim it European, who can says otherwise? NOBODY.

wvwvw

11-16-2017, 11:26 AM

I've made it European.

It is I who decide what is European and what isn't in Europe (Balkans).

5 million Europeans decided to proclaim Islam as European religion, and not those
who came from Asia Europeans but those who lived here for the last few millennia.

I2, E1b, J2 Europeans

If Albanians, Bosnians proclaim it European, who can says otherwise? NOBODY.

No you failed to make it European. Have you ever bothered to read Alija Izetbegovic's Islamic Manifesto?

In it he argued:

"The exhaustive definition of the Islamic Order is: the unity of religion and law, education and force, ideals and interests, spiritual society and State…the Muslim does not exist at all as an independent individual… […] It is not in fact possible for there to be any peace or coexistence between 'the Islamic Religion' and non-Islamic social and political institutions."

This is as explicit as Islamic fundamentalism gets. Oh, there is also the matter of Muslim soldiers killed in the Bosnian War being called shahaad, "martyr for the faith," indicating theirs was a Muslim holy war (jihad), not a struggle for some fictitious multi-ethnic utopia. Izetbegovic requested to be buried at the main shahaad cemetery in Sarajevo, next to the holy warriors who died for his vision.

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 11:40 AM

No you failed to make it European. Have you ever bothered to read Alija Izetbegovic's Islamic Manifesto?

In it he argued:

"The exhaustive definition of the Islamic Order is: the unity of religion and law, education and force, ideals and interests, spiritual society and State…the Muslim does not exist at all as an independent individual… […] It is not in fact possible for there to be any peace or coexistence between 'the Islamic Religion' and non-Islamic social and political institutions."

This is as explicit as Islamic fundamentalism gets. Oh, there is also the matter of Muslim soldiers killed in the Bosnian War being called shahaad, "martyr for the faith," indicating theirs was a Muslim holy war (jihad), not a struggle for some fictitious multi-ethnic utopia. Izetbegovic requested to be buried at the main shahaad cemetery in Sarajevo, next to the holy warriors who died for his vision.

Trust me, nobody read that book. I've heard Orthodoxes quoting it but pretty much Nobody has read it and nobody follows that book.

Also that Book was written in 1980 when there wasn't a clear identity of Bosnians. Alija himself later stated
many things in 1990's which are apparently completely opposite of that Book. That Book was inspired with Neo-Ottoman ideology which is
nowdays completely dead in Bosnia.

It was hard for us to separate our conscious from 500 years Ottoman Occupation and indoctrination. Nowdays we have basically continued
the mission of Ljudevit Gaj's Illyrian Movement where Bosniak nation is a spiritual and cultural successor of Illyrian and Slavic tribes that inhabited these
areas before Ottoman conquests.

We have abandoned everything related to Islamic Government and Laws except Islamic State Institution (something like Orthodox Church) which is independent
(Just like Orthodox Churches nowdays). We have independent views on Islam, and we can't be touched by anything from Middle East. We are completely religiously
independent from Arabs and Iranian people. We have absorbed Islam in the way we like it completely differently than MENA people.

I know that people from many other regions do not know that, Serbs and Albanians DO which is why you see they don't complain. It is only those others
who know nothing about us.

Also we have always had our religions either pagan or christian, who can blame us for changing our religion for 3rd time if it suits our needs.

Jana

11-16-2017, 11:49 AM

Nowdays we have basically continued the mission of Ljudevit Gaj's Illyrian Movement where Bosniak nation is a spiritual and cultural successor of Illyrian and Slavic tribes that inhabited these
areas before Ottoman conquests.

Wtf ? Ljudevit Gaj and Illyrian movement were part of Croatian national revival and Pan-Slavic ideas. It has nothing to do with Bosniaks.

Stop stealing others people history.

Jana

11-16-2017, 11:49 AM

...

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 11:58 AM

Wtf ? Ljudevit Gaj and Illyrian movement were part of Croatian national revival and Pan-Slavic ideas. It has nothing to do with Bosniaks.

Stop stealing others people history.

We continued his philosophy.

Also he was talking about Illyrian identity (Pan-Slavism) that included wider range of peoples.

But then Croatian identity defated Illyrian. He was Croatian Yes, but he lived in completely different times
when he practically looked upon Bosnians, Serbians, Croats as a more closely related people than today.

I never claimed he was Bosnian or something like that, but that we approached Cultural revival the same way as he did nothing else.

Jana

11-16-2017, 12:02 PM

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 12:04 PM

Gaj was German by origin.

Cool.

I admired how he approach Cultural Revival in Croatia, and I compared him to post-Ottoman Bosniak revival for which reason i Admire his works.

Laberia

11-16-2017, 12:08 PM

We continued his philosophy.

Also he was talking about Illyrian identity (Pan-Slavism) that included wider range of peoples.

But then Croatian identity defated Illyrian. He was Croatian Yes, but he lived in completely different times
when he practically looked upon Bosnians, Serbians, Croats as a more closely related people than today.

I never claimed he was Bosnian or something like that, but that we approached Cultural revival the same way as he did nothing else.

1705-1715
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz:
Correspondence on the Albanian Language

(Hanover, 28 December 1711)
… The modern European alphabets are derived from Latin, with the exception of the two Slavic ones: Cyrillic and so-called Glagolitic. Some authors later attributed these to Saint Jerome who was of Illyrian origin, but falsely so, as if the ancient Illyrian language were some sort of Slavic. But the Slavs were late to arrive in Illyria, not before the age of Justinian. The ancient Illyrians were of Celtic origin. They used a language closely related to Germanic and Gaulish. It is evident that relics of this are preserved in the modern language, in particular in that of the Epirots, of which I have seen specimens published. Nowadays they generally call the Slavic language Illyrian because the Slavs settled in Illyria. …
(Vienna, 13 January 1714)
II. …One day in Berlin you gave me a book in the language of the Epirots, printed in Rome by the Propaganda Fide. I believe it had the Lord's Prayer in that language and I took it out. But I cannot easily find it in my letters. Would you be so kind, Sir, as to send it to me once more?
(Hanover, 24 March 1715)

Source:
[Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Opera Philologica (Hildesheim: Georg Olms, 1989). Translated from the French by Robert Elsie.]

Laberia

11-16-2017, 12:11 PM

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 12:15 PM

1705-1715
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz:
Correspondence on the Albanian Language

(Hanover, 28 December 1711)
… The modern European alphabets are derived from Latin, with the exception of the two Slavic ones: Cyrillic and so-called Glagolitic. Some authors later attributed these to Saint Jerome who was of Illyrian origin, but falsely so, as if the ancient Illyrian language were some sort of Slavic. But the Slavs were late to arrive in Illyria, not before the age of Justinian. The ancient Illyrians were of Celtic origin. They used a language closely related to Germanic and Gaulish. It is evident that relics of this are preserved in the modern language, in particular in that of the Epirots, of which I have seen specimens published. Nowadays they generally call the Slavic language Illyrian because the Slavs settled in Illyria. …
(Vienna, 13 January 1714)
II. …One day in Berlin you gave me a book in the language of the Epirots, printed in Rome by the Propaganda Fide. I believe it had the Lord's Prayer in that language and I took it out. But I cannot easily find it in my letters. Would you be so kind, Sir, as to send it to me once more?
(Hanover, 24 March 1715)

Source:
[Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Opera Philologica (Hildesheim: Georg Olms, 1989). Translated from the French by Robert Elsie.]

I agree on that... I see no connection with Slavic and Illyrian languages.

As far as I am concerned before Slavic language, Illyrians spoke Latin (north) Greek (south), nobody knows for sure

which language was spoken before Hellenization or Latinization. I assume it might be Albanian but we don't have enough evidences.

Also, modern people of Balkans are not Illyrians but Thraco-Illyrians who mixed with Slavs. So Serbs are more related to Thracians (mostly) while Bosnians are more related to Illyrians.

Also there is a second theory where Thraco-Illyrian languages are Proto-Slavic language (that were used before Latin, Greek) but who can confirm that? At this moment nobody.

We can only confirm that Modern people of Western Balkans are Slavo-Illyrian and Slavo-Thracian people since neither real Slavs recognize them as Slavs, nor Greek or Albanians recognize them as fully southern people and map in my signiture show unity of (Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia) as a homogenous group of people.

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 12:15 PM

Talk about your people. Leave the others out of your lunatic world.

I've talked with Albanians, we have Albanians in NW Bosnia.. wtf are you talking about.. are you representative of Albanians? NO.

Do you deny Albanians to call themselves European muslims?

Laberia

11-16-2017, 12:21 PM

I've talked with Albanians, we have Albanians in NW Bosnia.. wtf are you talking about.. are you representative of Albanians? NO.

Do you deny Albanians to call themselves European muslims?

I don't represent all the Albanians, i represent myself like every normal member of this forum, but i am an Albanian, i don't know if you noticed this fact. Stop talking about us.
And don't derail this thread with your lunatic posts.

MagnusAurelius

11-16-2017, 06:26 PM

How can a portugese , the most african influenced people in europe be '' whiter'' than some one else in europe???

You are the only people in europe ( maybe with some south italians) whose young males have an average height of 170 cm and look like a bunch of levantines from Jordan.

Sincerely, when i saw for the first time a groups of young guys from your people, i would have never thought of them to be from europe, height and racially wise.

You are the most negroid and maghrbeian influenced people on this continent, or you do you want me to post studies here???

As for '' culture'' , there is not such thing as europan culture and especially the so called '' europan culture '' of the after WW2 is disgusting and destructive and i dont want to be part of it.

'' white nationalists'' are a 180 degree turn of the policies of the 3rd Reich ( a state which would consider todays' neo nazis as subhumans) and considering how neo nazis and so called '' white nationalists'' behave and how dumb they are, for sure they are jewish sponsored to make their campaign ( which is in it's core right an just) appear dumb and idiotic.

Keep trying to denigrate Portuguese, meanwhile there is no major difference in phenotype. You are simply another inferiority complex degenerate who worships a White Nordic standard of beauty and you think Albanians along with other South Eastern Europeans are Whiter than Portuguese.

Both groups look "ethnic" enough.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Portuguese+Crowd&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCxsSA6cPXAhWChJAKHbwkCY4Q_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=612&dpr=1.5 Portuguese Crowd

https://www.google.com/search?q=Albanian+Crowd&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb6OWP6cPXAhVICpAKHX56CZ8Q_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=612 Albanian Crowd

Rethel

11-16-2017, 06:42 PM

If Albanians, Bosnians proclaim it European, who can says otherwise? NOBODY.

They are infidels only becasue of muslim asiatic invasion. Ergo traitors.

Rethel

11-16-2017, 06:45 PM

Poland which has virtually no Muslims is calling for a Muslim Holocaust

You are delirious.
Never none Pole wanted such thing.

Gold-Shekel

11-16-2017, 07:16 PM

You are delirious.
Never none Pole wanted such thing.

Listening to your far right politicians, they're the delirious ones.

wvwvw

11-16-2017, 07:30 PM

Listening to your far right politicians, they're the delirious ones.

They are delirous against the EU that forces them to take third world immigrants.

They have already taken in thousands of Ukrainians.

kingjohn

11-16-2017, 07:37 PM

They are delirous against the EU that forces them to take third world immigrants.

They have already taken in thousands of Ukrainians.

wow i am realy immpresed lol
common
but ukranian are white europeans { many are assholes but they are still white european }
and not immighrants from syria or afghanistan .... with different look culture everything different .

Token

11-16-2017, 07:42 PM

I agree on that... I see no connection with Slavic and Illyrian languages.

As far as I am concerned before Slavic language, Illyrians spoke Latin (north) Greek (south), nobody knows for sure

which language was spoken before Hellenization or Latinization. I assume it might be Albanian but we don't have enough evidences.

Also, modern people of Balkans are not Illyrians but Thraco-Illyrians who mixed with Slavs. So Serbs are more related to Thracians (mostly) while Bosnians are more related to Illyrians.

Also there is a second theory where Thraco-Illyrian languages are Proto-Slavic language (that were used before Latin, Greek) but who can confirm that? At this moment nobody.

We can only confirm that Modern people of Western Balkans are Slavo-Illyrian and Slavo-Thracian people since neither real Slavs recognize them as Slavs, nor Greek or Albanians recognize them as fully southern people and map in my signiture show unity of (Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia) as a homogenous group of people.

Illyrians spoke Illyrian languages that are now extinct (even if some linguists supports the notion that Albanian is a Illyrian remnant), not Latin nor Greek and much less Slavic.

Ülev

11-16-2017, 07:56 PM

and another lawsuit

After a lawsuit against Guy Verhofstadt, the head of the liberal factions of the European Parliament, announced the Reduta of the Good Name (Reduta Dobrego Imienia), a similar action is being considered by Dr. Bawer Aondo-Akaa.
He is a dark-skinned Polish patriot, a participant in the Independence March, who felt touched by the scandalous words of the former Prime Minister of Belgium.

https://dorzeczy.pl/kraj/47484/Coraz-gorecej-wokol-Verhofstadta-Tym-razem-pozwanie-go-rozwaza-Bawer-Aondo-Akaa-uczestnik-Marszu-Niepodleglosci.html

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 08:00 PM

Illyrians spoke Illyrian languages that are now extinct (even if some linguists supports the notion that Albanian is a Illyrian remnant), not Latin nor Greek and much less Slavic.

Lol man everybody knows that Illyrians spoke Latin

Even Illyrian pope.. Pope Caius spoke Latin.

Constantine the Great spoke Latin

Trajan Decius spoke Latin

and many others..

Question remains, what % of populace used latin.. probably quite a large cause Vlachs of western balkans all knew some variant of Latin.

Token

11-16-2017, 08:05 PM

Lol man everybody knows that Illyrians spoke Latin

Even Illyrian pope.. Pope Caius spoke Latin.

Constantine the Great spoke Latin

Trajan Decius spoke Latin

and many others..

Question remains, what % of populace used latin.. probably quite a large cause Vlachs of western balkans all knew some variant of Latin.

Nope, Illyrian was later influenced by Latin but it was a completely different branch of the Indo-European macrofamily that went extinct around 500 CE. Illyrians are now extinct and there's none modern population that can be considered Illyrian ethnolinguistically, not even Albanians that are heavily pre-Indo-European (Paleo-Balkan) genetically and their language is not considered part of the Illyrian branch by most linguists.

wvwvw

11-16-2017, 08:07 PM

Lol man everybody knows that Illyrians spoke Latin

Even Illyrian pope.. Pope Caius spoke Latin.

Constantine the Great spoke Latin

Trajan Decius spoke Latin

and many others..

Question remains, what % of populace used latin.. probably quite a large cause Vlachs of western balkans all knew some variant of Latin.

Latin and Greek were the official languages, they did not replace the native languages.

Greek and Roman culture was based on multi-culturalism and tolerance for native people's cultures. Illyrians and many others flourished under Greco-Roman rule.

wvwvw

11-16-2017, 08:10 PM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvKTLLHMMoXi2zW68KgLaTRlp89gThi b6WN8tMLNGU4ziYSw

Token

11-16-2017, 08:13 PM

Latin and Greek were the official languages, they did not replace the native languages.

Greek and Roman culture was based on multi-culturalism and tolerance for native people's cultures. Illyrians and many others flourished under Greco-Roman rule.

In reality they did but it was a gradual process and, in the case of the Romans, the final product was a Latin language with a lot of influence from the pre-Roman conquest language spoken in the region. Otherwise Iberia, France and Northern Italy would still speak Celtic languages.

Bosniensis

11-16-2017, 08:18 PM

Latin and Greek were the official languages, they did not replace the native languages.

Greek and Roman culture was based on multi-culturalism and tolerance for native people's cultures. Illyrians and many others flourished under Greco-Roman rule.

But Illyrians remained under Roman government for many years.. like 450 years, Rome itself collapsed in Dalmatia (western court).

Could it be that they fully embraced Latin during that period? Or do you still believe they knew their original language?

Rethel

11-16-2017, 09:05 PM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvKTLLHMMoXi2zW68KgLaTRlp89gThi b6WN8tMLNGU4ziYSw

http://www.komputerswiat.pl/media/2011/59/1754962/lubie-to-zaj.jpg

ALL

11-16-2017, 09:48 PM

to think that the man who brought the biggest destruction ever to jewsin there history
is part jewish is ridiculous:picard1:
personally for me it is funny how rethel really think he was part jewish i think his breaking records here in stupidity :patpat:

Don't forget his doctors.:)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4128594/
Don't forget his superior WW 1 officer. That's when he was awarded the Iron cross.:)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gutmann

kingjohn

11-16-2017, 10:46 PM

Don't forget his doctors.:)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4128594/
Don't forget his superior WW 1 officer. That's when he was awarded the Iron cross.:)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gutmann

so what Hitler himself was not jewish and not even part jewish
lenin was 1/4 jewish but not hittler his grandfather was non jew Austrian
yes i know i am conected to german jews even on my x chromosome we gave our soul to germany many jews fought in ww1
but later the non jewish germans sell us for nothing and send us to ovens no forgiveness in my hurt for that but that's my own personal business . :(

ALL

11-16-2017, 11:03 PM

so what Hitler himself was not jewish and not even part jewish
lenin was 1/4 jewish but not hittler his grandfather was non jew Austrian
yes i know i am conected to german jews even on my x chromosome we gave our soul to germany many jews fought in ww1
but later the non jewish germans sell us for nothing and send us to ovens no forgiveness in my hurt for that but that's my own personal business . :(

True; 12,000 died in WW1 and 18,000 were awarded the Iron Cross for bravery. That is almost 1/3+/- of the 100,000 that either died or were awarded the Iron cross fighting on the German side. However don't forget Polish contribution. Piast dynasty -Casimir the Great http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4098-casimir-iii-the-great