White-born man claims he's 'transracial,' identifies as Filipino

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http://www.eastbound88.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2372&d=1510599466

Now that's something you don't hear every day.

Ja Du recently sat down with WTSP to discuss his racial identity, telling the outlet that although he was born a white man named Adam, he feels Filipino. He now identifies as transracial.

"Whenever I'm around the music, around the food, I feel like I'm in my own skin," he said.

"I'd watch the history channel sometimes for hours you know whenever it came to that and you know nothing else intrigues me more but things about Filipino culture."

Although Ja Du can't change the way he presents outwardly, he's embraced all aspects of his identity as it relates to the way he lives his life.

He can often be found driving around his native Tampa, Fla., in a purple Tuk Tuk, a three-wheeled vehicle often used as public transportation in the Philippines.

Psychologist Stacey Scheckner told WTSP she's never had a client express a desire to change their race, but she has worked with a number of people who want to change their appearance in some way.

She told the publication anyone who feels drawn to another religion, race or culture should be encouraged to embrace those feelings and dive in completely

"If someone feels that they feel at home with a certain religion, a certain race, a certain culture, I think that if that's who they really feel inside life is about finding out who you are. The more knowledge you have of yourself, the happier you can be," Scheckner said.

"And, as long as it's not hurting yourself or anyone else, I don't see a problem with that."

Ja Du has yet to come out to his family as transracial. He told WTSP he worries they won't take him seriously.
Scheckner had some wise words for family members and others who may be critical of Ja Du's identity.

"If that's who they are and they want to celebrate it and enjoy it, then you have to think what harm is it doing? All they want to do is throw themselves into that culture and celebrate it," Scheckner added.

Ja Du told WTSP it's not his intention to appropriate anyone's culture or take advantage of things that may be offered to people of specific nationalities or races.

"I believe people will (take advantage) just like other people have taken advantage of their identity to get their way, but the difference between me and them Garin (Flowers, WTSP reporter) is that I don't want that. I think that we all have the freedoms to pursue happiness in our own ways," he said.
Ja Du isn't the first to come out publicly as transracial.

Perhaps the most notable transracial figure is Rachel Dolezal, the former president of the Spokane, Wash., chapter of the NAACP, who was revealed to be a white woman presenting as black.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/white-born-man-claims-transracial-identifies-filipino-article-1.3629551

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJg8s8NG2KQ

[zhaoyun]

These fucking idiots are a waste of time. He can think whatever he wants, but his delusions are just that.

[KMack]

More power to him. He will probably move there, and become a real Filipino.

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most of us .. don't care anymore... I seen a few India & Caucasians in Philippines that has Philippine passport and part of the government..

__________

here are few mainstream people that is already accepted..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwR9b4FtjAU <-- shes black... she's like a mega icon in Philippines..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAPtDRFn06Y

[Root]

another glitch/bug. Nature made a mistake over his gender and self-identity.. lol

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I think were the only people in Asia or maybe singaporean( not sure) that will accept Non-Asians as one us or as family.. Foreigners cannot be Vietnamese, malay,indonesian, east Asians. etc etc..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6LKL7WluJI <;; example: austrlian girl is already accepted..

the original meaning of Filipino/ Filipina is mestizo/mestiza of the ruling elite... basically it's a mixed race of natives & Spanish..
they looked something like this..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zfGyVtq3LLA/Ty5rUNHchoI/AAAAAAAAcoM/XNKZheQQnJo/s1600/FPJ-%2B%2BOct%2B58-%2BLiterary%2BSong-Movie.jpg

it's only after independence, where Filipino became a nationality..

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I should make more threads like this....

the world is becoming interesting in the age of globalization.

[zhaoyun]

most of us .. don't care anymore... I seen a few India & Caucasians in Philippines that has Philippine passport and part of the government..

__________

here are few mainstream people that is already accepted..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwR9b4FtjAU <-- shes black... she's like a mega icon in Philippines..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAPtDRFn06Y

It'd be different if he grew up in the Philippines and spoke Tagalog. I guess he will eventually assimilate if he's living there.

[Mingle]

Filipino is not a race. It's just a citizenship. Can't Whites be Filipino? How is that transracial? Does he want to have surgery to look like a native Filipino?

[zhaoyun]

Filipino is not a race. It's just a citizenship. Can't Whites be Filipino? How is that transracial? Does he want to have surgery to look like a native Filipino?

The term transracial is fucking retarded.

[StonyArabia]

The guy clearly has issues. Transracial lol, but this not strange because there even transanimals out there.

[Tooting Carmen]

He has the right to identify however he wishes. Nevertheless, the rest of us also have the right to say that (at least in a genetic and biological sense) what he is saying is utter nonsense.

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Filipino is not a race. It's just a citizenship. Can't Whites be Filipino? How is that transracial? Does he want to have surgery to look like a native Filipino?

the 2nd president of Philippine is a Caucasian Spanish mestizo... the original meaning of Filipino is -- mestizo ( basically a mixed race of the ruiling elite)... basically it's a nationality now that we all use as a term of racial identity especially overseas.

ofcourse! 5 year old can see that their racial difference..A man is not a woman & woman is not a man ( common sense).""We are not the same race"".. Anyone with Philippine passport will be accepted and have same rights like everyone else, he can run for the president etc etc.. you can be accepted as a brother from another mother, same rights as a biological brother in the same household..


and YEs there many people who looks different that the mainstream calls Filipino.. they will call you Filipino meaning '' one of us''... but they don't mean we are the same race in back of their heads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=663otOvJVGU

[Iloko]

Oh so he's also a transsexual as well?

[greasycaveman]

sick

[KMack]

Oh so he's also a transsexual as well?

Yeah or considering it.

[Iloko]

another glitch/bug. Nature made a mistake over his gender and self-identity.. lol
a glitch in the matrix hehehe

[Iloko]

I should make more threads like this....

the world is becoming interesting in the age of globalization.
I never suspected there was any other race that wanted to be like us! Next headline: 12 year old Eskimo girl feels Filipino on the inside!

[zhaoyun]

the 2nd president of Philippine is a Caucasian Spanish mestizo... the original meaning of Filipino is -- mestizo ( basically a mixed race of the ruiling elite)... basically it's a nationality now that we all use as a term of racial identity especially overseas.

ofcourse! 5 year old can see that their racial difference..A man is not a woman & woman is not a man ( common sense).""We are not the same race"".. Anyone with Philippine passport will be accepted and have same rights like everyone else, he can run for the president etc etc.. you can be accepted as a brother from another mother, same rights as a biological brother in the same household..


and YEs there many people who looks different that the mainstream calls Filipino.. they will call you Filipino meaning '' one of us''... but they don't mean we are the same race in back of their heads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=663otOvJVGU

Filipinos come from a different place than East Asians in history, that's why they are more accepting. The Philippines wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the Spanish, so your societies were ruled by Caucasians for 90% of your history, of course Caucasians would be accepted, they were the rulers of the Philippines. It has nothing to do with equality, actually the opposite. To pass it off as equality is intellectually dishonest. Whites were the ruling class in the Philippines.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans ruled their own societies since forever. In China, you will find a great deal of diversity, unlike Japan and Korea, China has native born Caucasian ethnic groups in it's far west. I think these individuals should be accepted as equally Chinese citizens, and as per the law, they have equal rights, although discrimination IRL is a different matter. I wouldn't say these minorities are treated badly in China, but I would say they are generally marginalized, so in actuality, it's not that much different than a Mongoloid minority in a Caucasoid country.

[StonyArabia]

Filipinos come from a different place than East Asians in history, that's why they are more accepting. The Philippines wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the Spanish, so your societies were ruled by Caucasians for 90% of your history, of course Caucasians would be accepted, they were the rulers of the Philippines. It has nothing to do with equality, actually the opposite. To pass it off as equality is intellectually dishonest. Whites were the ruling class in the Philippines.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans ruled their own societies since forever. In China, you will find a great deal of diversity, unlike Japan and Korea, China has native born Caucasian ethnic groups in it's far west. I think these individuals should be accepted as equally Chinese citizens, and as per the law, they have equal rights, although discrimination IRL is a different matter. I wouldn't say these minorities are treated badly in China, but I would say they are generally marginalized, so in actuality, it's not that much different than a Mongoloid minority in a Caucasoid country.

Before the Spanish there was significant Arabian presence in all over Southeast Asia to, this why you have significant minority of Filipinos being Muslims, some even say the whole nation was Muslim before the Spanish enforced Catholicism by brutal force. The Arabian presence was not colonial but rather based on mutual economic trade, however many Arabians for one or another decided to remain there and today some people there have Arabian ancestry. However our influence is much stronger in Indonesia, and many Indonesians seem to have Arabian features intermixed with Asiatic of course.

[Iloko]

These fucking idiots are a waste of time. He can think whatever he wants, but his delusions are just that.
He looks like a heavy-metal rocker..I'm surprised that he has a thing for Pinoys. Usually the ones who are interested in Filipinos and Filipino culture don't look like him..they tend to be much older Caucasian men. Many 20-something Koreans these days are also flocking to Manila as well and digging the culture. Though I do also often see Caucasians in their 20s living in the business district areas of Metro Manila as well who also seem to dig the culture/people/etc..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzmDImMG-p4

[zhaoyun]

Before the Spanish there was significant Arabian presence in all over Southeast Asia to, this why you have significant minority of Filipinos being Muslims, some even say the whole nation was Muslim before the Spanish enforced Catholicism by brutal force. The Arabian presence was not colonial but rather based on mutual economic trade, however many Arabians for one or another decided to remain there and today some people there have Arabian ancestry. However our influence is much stronger in Indonesia, and many Indonesians seem to have Arabian features intermixed with Asiatic of course.

The island of Mindanao in the South of the Philippines is basically part of the same cultural fabric as Indonesia and Malaysia. The rest of the Philippines would've likely been incorporated in the same way if it weren't for the Spanish, although the island of Luzon may have gone the path of Taiwan and become Sinicized with increasing Chinese immigration. Who knows.

Anyways, my point is that the fact that Filipinos accept White people isn't really a celebration of racial equality, rather it's more the legacy of them being colonized for so long. Obviously they'd accept White people, Whites were the creators of their society and at the helm for 90% of their history. It's more the other way around, Filipino society has always longed to be accepted by Whites whether they were Spaniard or American.

[Antimage]

He has the right to identify however he wishes.

Why does he have the right when he isn't a filippino? What's next, a man identifying as a tree or a lion is ok?

[zhaoyun]

Why does he have the right when he isn't a filippino? What's next, a man identifying as a tree or a lion is ok?

If he grew up in the Philippines and spoke Tagalog as his primary language, then he'd have a point. But he's a White guy from the US, it's just weird. But I guess if he lives there and eventually assimilates, then he'd have more of a foundation. But the term trans-racialism is just fucking retarded.

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Filipinos come from a different place than East Asians in history, that's why they are more accepting. The Philippines wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the Spanish, so your societies were ruled by Caucasians for 90% of your history, of course Caucasians would be accepted, they were the rulers of the Philippines. It has nothing to do with equality, actually the opposite. To pass it off as equality is intellectually dishonest. Whites were the ruling class in the Philippines.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans ruled their own societies since forever. In China, you will find a great deal of diversity, unlike Japan and Korea, China has native born Caucasian ethnic groups in it's far west. I think these individuals should be accepted as equally Chinese citizens, and as per the law, they have equal rights, although discrimination IRL is a different matter. I wouldn't say these minorities are treated badly in China, but I would say they are generally marginalized, so in actuality, it's not that much different than a Mongoloid minority in a Caucasoid country.

you're talking about colonial times.. I was referring from independence day to 2017... Blacks, Indians, middle easterns, Latinos are treated with respect and protected by law as well..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESgcExetso


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKWKs1IQa4 <-- black-American.. his already accepted as well.. they called him brother, Filipino already..... I can post hundreds of these videos... where you don't see backlash of Filipino Nazis going ape..

[Mingle]

Why does he have the right when he isn't a filippino? What's next, a man identifying as a tree or a lion is ok?

We have people identifying as a different gender. This isn't really all that surprising considering the OWD/OYD/etc. rampant in this world.

[zhaoyun]

you're talking about colonial times.. I was referring from independence day to 2017... Blacks, Indians, middle easterns, Latinos are treated with respect and protected by law as well..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wESgcExetso


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKWKs1IQa4 <-- black-American.. his already accepted as well.. they called him brother, Filipino already..... I can post hundreds of these videos... where you don't see backlash of Filipino Nazis going ape..

The colonial mentality is still very strong with Filipinos even though they've been independent for 60 years. Yeah, they are more accepting than other Asians, my point was that it's tied to their colonial history.

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Before the Spanish there was significant Arabian presence in all over Southeast Asia to, this why you have significant minority of Filipinos being Muslims, some even say the whole nation was Muslim before the Spanish enforced Catholicism by brutal force. The Arabian presence was not colonial but rather based on mutual economic trade, however many Arabians for one or another decided to remain there and today some people there have Arabian ancestry. However our influence is much stronger in Indonesia, and many Indonesians seem to have Arabian features intermixed with Asiatic of course.

it would be battle ground of muslims and Japanese, germans, british, French, dutch..... without Europeans I'd say it would be battle between muslims and sinosphere.


The island of Mindanao in the South of the Philippines is basically part of the same cultural fabric as Indonesia and Malaysia. The rest of the Philippines would've likely been incorporated in the same way if it weren't for the Spanish, although the island of Luzon may have gone the path of Taiwan and become Sinicized with increasing Chinese immigration. Who knows.

Anyways, my point is that the fact that Filipinos accept White people isn't really a celebration of racial equality, rather it's more the legacy of them being colonized for so long. Obviously they'd accept White people, Whites were the creators of their society and at the helm for 90% of their history. It's more the other way around, Filipino society has always longed to be accepted by Whites whether they were Spaniard or American.

:picard2: it has nothing to with that... it has something to do with our Christian beliefs to love another as God would love you... treat others as you want to be treated.. that's where it comes from...

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The colonial mentality is still very strong with Filipinos even though they've been independent for 60 years. Yeah, they are more accepting than other Asians, my point was that it's tied to their colonial history.

there's nothing wrong with treating others as you want to be treated... were the only one's that would treats africans/pacific australoids with open arms..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7lVw4KhKO4 <-- 1:38 his been there since 1972! no testimony of racism..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HtukvK_XwM <-- blacks in Philippines


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnRQIG_ZAVg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhzmpqjoGgc <-- Nigerians in Philippines..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3UMRCUMrQI <-- I can post hundreds of videos.. foreigners aren't complaining of racism or mis-treatment..

[Black Panther]

Filipinos come from a different place than East Asians in history, that's why they are more accepting. The Philippines wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the Spanish, so your societies were ruled by Caucasians for 90% of your history, of course Caucasians would be accepted, they were the rulers of the Philippines. It has nothing to do with equality, actually the opposite. To pass it off as equality is intellectually dishonest. Whites were the ruling class in the Philippines.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans ruled their own societies since forever. In China, you will find a great deal of diversity, unlike Japan and Korea, China has native born Caucasian ethnic groups in it's far west. I think these individuals should be accepted as equally Chinese citizens, and as per the law, they have equal rights, although discrimination IRL is a different matter. I wouldn't say these minorities are treated badly in China, but I would say they are generally marginalized, so in actuality, it's not that much different than a Mongoloid minority in a Caucasoid country.

You nailed it. It's the same shit in Latin America. A lot of Latinos believe their countries are the most welcoming on the planet, when the reality is Latin America is one of the most White-worshiping and racially segregated continents on the planet. Haitians aren't getting all that "Latino love" in Brazil or Chile from my personal experience. Neither are the native-born Amerindians and Blacks.

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You nailed it. It's the same shit in Latin America. A lot of Latinos believe their countries are the most welcoming on the planet, when the reality is Latin America is one of the most White-worshiping and racially segregated continents on the planet. Haitians aren't getting all that "Latino love" in Brazil or Chile from my personal experience. Neither are the native-born Amerindians and Blacks.

you should compare us with Malaysians, Indonesians & Vietnamese... Malaysians/Indonesians have been trying to kill all Chinese and australoids.. as for Vietnamese, They are culturally east Asian..but they hate Chinese and racists to Chinese with passion... Koreans vs Chinese vs Japanese are actually racists/nationalist to one another..
the native australoids is protected by government in Philippines..

We treat Chinese better than Vietnamese, Indonesians, Japanese because we have different set of values..

[Black Panther]

you should compare us with Malaysians, Indonesians & Vietnamese... Malaysians/Indonesians have been trying to kill all Chinese and australoids.. as for Vietnamese, They are culturally east Asian..but they hate Chinese and racists to Chinese with passion... Koreans vs Chinese vs Japanese are actually racists/nationalist to one another..
the native australoids is protected by government in Philippines..

We treat Chinese better than Vietnamese, Indonesians, Japanese.

I am not comparing Latin America to the Philippines because I know the colonization of Latin America was far more brutal/dehumanizing so Latin America is far worse than the Philippines in terms of colonial mentality, white-worshiping, etc. I was just pointing out that both places have a "self-reputation" of being welcoming to everyone when in fact, these societies have a preference for Whites and will be quick to adopt them into their cultures, while sometimes being hostile to other races, especially Blacks and Amerindians.

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I am not comparing Latin America to the Philippines because I know the colonization of Latin America was far more brutal/dehumanizing so Latin America is far worse than the Philippines in terms of colonial mentality, white-worshiping, etc. I was just pointing out that both places have a "self-reputation" of being welcoming to everyone when in fact, these societies have a preference for Whites and will be quick to adopt them into their cultures, while sometimes being hostile to other races, especially Blacks and Amerindians.

ok.. honest answer... the Christian Haitian will probably be accepted.. but the VOODOO snake worshipping Haitian tribes will probably freak us out of fear.. ( they will get some sort of racism or anti-voodoo attacks)

I got nothing against black, in fact most of us Filipinos admire them..

[zhaoyun]

You nailed it. It's the same shit in Latin America. A lot of Latinos believe their countries are the most welcoming on the planet, when the reality is Latin America is one of the most White-worshiping and racially segregated continents on the planet. Haitians aren't getting all that "Latino love" in Brazil or Chile from my personal experience. Neither are the native-born Amerindians and Blacks.

I would say that Latinos FME are generally accepting, but they are definitely white worshipping societies. Usually Asian or Black features are denigrated in those societies and anybody who doesn't fit the Caucasian ideal are looked down upon. But in the end, despite this, they will more willingly accept other races, probably because they are mixed race societies to begin with.

[zhaoyun]

you should compare us with Malaysians, Indonesians & Vietnamese... Malaysians/Indonesians have been trying to kill all Chinese and australoids.. as for Vietnamese, They are culturally east Asian..but they hate Chinese and racists to Chinese with passion... Koreans vs Chinese vs Japanese are actually racists/nationalist to one another..
the native australoids is protected by government in Philippines..

We treat Chinese better than Vietnamese, Indonesians, Japanese because we have different set of values..

Malaysians and Indonesians are not culturally East Asian at all. Vietnamese are the only SE Asians that are truly Confucian culturally. The reason why they hate China is because historically they were dominated by China, so they have a deep paranoia of China trying to colonize them again, which, I guess is logical. Vietnam was a Chinese province in the past and was in the process of becoming a "Han Chinese" territory but they rebelled and succeeded, unlike many of the other regions that are now considered "Chinese".

[Anthony PV]

Vietnam was a Chinese province in the past and was in the process of becoming a "Han Chinese" territory but they rebelled and succeeded, unlike many of the other regions that are now considered "Chinese".
How did Vietnam manage to free itself from China unlike the other regions? :confused:

[zhaoyun]

How did Vietnam manage to free itself from China unlike the other regions? :confused:

Probably because it was far south. The Vietnamese are great fighters, I'll give them that.

[Mingle]

Malaysians and Indonesians are not culturally East Asian at all. Vietnamese are the only SE Asians that are truly Confucian culturally. The reason why they hate China is because historically they were dominated by China, so they have a deep paranoia of China trying to colonize them again, which, I guess is logical. Vietnam was a Chinese province in the past and was in the process of becoming a "Han Chinese" territory but they rebelled and succeeded, unlike many of the other regions that are now considered "Chinese".

Some of them were China worshipers too:


"Trung Quốc" 中國 was used as a name for Vietnam by Gia Long in 1805.[59]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gia_Long


Minh Mang sinicized ethnic minorities such as Cambodians, claimed the legacy of Confucianism and China's Han dynasty for Vietnam, and used the term Han people 漢人 (Hán nhân) to refer to the Vietnamese.[12] Minh Mang declared that "We must hope that their barbarian habits will be subconsciously dissipated, and that they will daily become more infected by Han [Sino-Vietnamese] customs."[13] This policies were directed at the Khmer and hill tribes.[14] The Nguyen lord Nguyen Phuc Chu had referred to Vietnamese as "Han people" in 1712 when differentiating between Vietnamese and Chams.[15] It was said "Hán di hữu hạn" 漢夷有限 ("the Vietnamese and the barbarians must have clear borders" by the Gia Long Emperor (Nguyễn Phúc Ánh) when differentiating between Khmer and Vietnamese.[16] Minh Mang implemented an acculturation integration policy directed at minority non-Vietnamese peoples.[17] Thanh nhân 清人 or Đường nhân 唐人 were used to refer to ethnic Chinese by the Vietnamese while Vietnamese called themselves as Hán dân 漢民 and Hán nhân 漢人 in Vietnam during the 1800s under Nguyễn rule.[18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minh_Mạng

I think the reason they dislike China today is cause they view China as a bully (e.g. territory dispute, meddling in Viet affairs, etc), not anything to do with historical domination.

[Black Panther]

I would say that Latinos FME are generally accepting, but they are definitely white worshipping societies. Usually Asian or Black features are denigrated in those societies and anybody who doesn't fit the Caucasian ideal are looked down upon. But in the end, despite this, they will more willingly accept other races, probably because they are mixed race societies to begin with.

If you are a tourist, yes. Latin America is very welcoming. But for poor Blacks and Amerindians who live there or immigrate there (in he case of Blacks), Latin America is definitely a hostile territory. LA is a highly classist society as well, so even if you are non-White but you have cash, you will be treated better. But as soon as the money runs out... Being non-White will be a problem. If I didn't have money, I wouldn't even step my feet in Latin America. It's not worth it, lol.

[Mingle]

If you are a tourist, yes. Latin America is very welcoming. But for poor Blacks and Amerindians who live there or immigrate there (in he case of Blacks), Latin America is definitely a hostile territory. LA is a highly classist society as well, so even if you are non-White but you have cash, you will be treated better. But as soon as the money runs out... Being non-White will be a problem. If I didn't have money, I wouldn't even step my feet in Latin America. It's not worth it, lol.

I thought Brazil was one of the most racially tolerant countries? That's what I've heard at least.

[zhaoyun]

If you are a tourist, yes. Latin America is very welcoming. But for poor Blacks and Amerindians who live there or immigrate there (in he case of Blacks), Latin America is definitely a hostile territory. LA is a highly classist society as well, so even if you are non-White but you have cash, you will be treated better. But as soon as the money runs out... Being non-White will be a problem. If I didn't have money, I wouldn't even step my feet in Latin America. It's not worth it, lol.

To be fair though, most societies will treat you a lot better if you are rich. LOL

[Black Panther]

ok.. honest answer... the Christian Haitian will probably be accepted.. but the VOODOO snake worshipping Haitian tribes will probably freak us out of fear.. ( they will get some sort of racism or anti-voodoo attacks)

I got nothing against black, in fact most of us Filipinos admire them..

But do they admire Blacks or African Americans (thanks to American cultural dominance)?

[Black Panther]

I thought Brazil was one of the most racially tolerant countries? That's what I've heard at least.

:lol::pound::lol00001::rotfl: That has to be the biggest lie in the History of mankind. The reality is Brazil is still a completely White-owned/controlled society where most non-Whites deeply hate themselves and you will only be welcome there if you are: A (White, especially Nordic looking) or B (Non-white, but with lots of cash or fame).

[Kamal900]

:lol::pound::lol00001::rotfl: That has to be the biggest lie in the History of mankind. The reality is Brazil is still a completely White-owned/controlled society where most non-Whites deeply hate themselves and you will only be welcome there if you are: A (White, especially Nordic looking) or B (Non-white, but with lots of cash or fame).

I wonder where I'll sit in society if I was in Brazil? I mean, I don't look Nordic or anything, but I am racially Caucasoid with light pigmentation. I'm not European either. It's really weird if you think about it.

[Black Panther]

To be fair though, most societies will treat you a lot better if you are rich. LOL

Sure, but I don't mean millionaire-rich. Just have more money than the average White person there and you will do fine if you ignore all the racism directed at others like you who are not so prosperous.

[zhaoyun]

:lol::pound::lol00001::rotfl: That has to be the biggest lie in the History of mankind. The reality is Brazil is still a completely White-owned/controlled society where most non-Whites deeply hate themselves and you will only be welcome there if you are: A (White, especially Nordic looking) or B (Non-white, but with lots of cash or fame).

Look at Heathers FFS. LOL

If I was Afram, I definitely wouldn't trade places with an Afro Brazilian for sure.

[Anthony PV]

:lol::pound::lol00001::rotfl: That has to be the biggest lie in the History of mankind. The reality is Brazil is still a completely White-owned/controlled society where most non-Whites deeply hate themselves and you will only be welcome there if you are: A (White, especially Nordic looking) or B (Non-white, but with lots of cash or fame).
Brazilians are self-haters who worship Nordics?! :confused: That's not the reality I saw in movies like Cidade de Deus and Tropa de Elite... :p

[zhaoyun]

I wonder where I'll sit in society if I was in Brazil? I mean, I don't look Nordic or anything, but I am racially Caucasoid with light pigmentation. I'm not European either. It's really weird if you think about it.

You'd probably be seen as White more easily in Brazil than in the US. Lebanese in Brazil are pretty much White, they aren't as different from the Iberians as they are from the Nordics/Anglos who were the traditional Whites in the US.

[Black Panther]

I wonder where I'll sit in society if I was in Brazil? I mean, I don't look Nordic or anything, but I am racially Caucasoid with light pigmentation. I'm not European either. It's really weird if you think about it.

You would be fine in most of Brazil, though. You'd only be discriminated in small White communities in the South (where there are some German and E. European communities). In my case, I am only treated well (before they know I am from Sweden, anyway) in the state of Bahia and a few other places in the Northeast/North and Rio de Janeiro.

[1R0N M4N XL]

Malaysians and Indonesians are not culturally East Asian at all. Vietnamese are the only SE Asians that are truly Confucian culturally. The reason why they hate China is because historically they were dominated by China, so they have a deep paranoia of China trying to colonize them again, which, I guess is logical. Vietnam was a Chinese province in the past and was in the process of becoming a "Han Chinese" territory but they rebelled and succeeded, unlike many of the other regions that are now considered "Chinese".

i never said malaysians/indonesians are east asian.. they are muslims ofcourse.



But do they admire Blacks or African Americans (thanks to American cultural dominance)?


non-black americans ( no Michael jordan, no denzel washington, no will smith etc)

judge yourself from the testimony of africans & carribeans

Jamaicans
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cVSjs1qr3ds/hqdefault.jpg <-- type blakdyank in google and see for yourself.. and look at his testimony.
http://www.angelfire.com/celeb2/flipceleb6/angelika/show33.jpg

nigerians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u4ggIxAkpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGWUJJvQxig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFBIx-sZtxY

[Babak]

You nailed it. It's the same shit in Latin America. A lot of Latinos believe their countries are the most welcoming on the planet, when the reality is Latin America is one of the most White-worshiping and racially segregated continents on the planet. Haitians aren't getting all that "Latino love" in Brazil or Chile from my personal experience. Neither are the native-born Amerindians and Blacks.

Would I fit in? lol

[Black Panther]

Look at Heathers FFS. LOL

If I was Afram, I definitely wouldn't trade places with an Afro Brazilian for sure.

I wouldn't either. Sometimes, I am thankful I wasn't born fully Brazilian just so I don't have to deal with all that bullshit, but I feel like I have to do something to at least help to change that culture in the future, even if by a little bit.

[Black Panther]

Brazilians are self-haters who worship Nordics?! :confused: That's not the reality I saw in movies like Cidade de Deus and Tropa de Elite... :p

That's exactly what I saw in those movies and through all the years I spent there, lol.

[Babak]

I wouldn't either. Sometimes, I am thankful I wasn't born fully Brazilian just so I don't have to deal with all that bullshit, but I feel like I have to do something to at least help to change that culture in the future, even if by little.

I heard latinas love MENA men, is that true?

[Black Panther]

Would I fit in? lol

I haven't seen one of your pics so far, but the question is not whether one fits or not. Almost anyone fits in Brazil. The thing is, White privilege might be a somewhat overused term in North America, but it is a very real and palpable concept in Latin America.

[Black Panther]

I heard latinas love MENA men, is that true?

Not as much as Nordic men. But if they aren't too dark-skinned, I think most women in Brazil will like MENA men.

[Anthony PV]

That's exactly what I saw in those movies and through all the years I spent there, lol.
In these movies, Brazil comes across as a country filled with socio-economic problems (crime, police corruption, poverty, street gangs), not as the land of White worshipers, lol.

[Babak]

Not as much as Nordic men. But if they aren't too dark-skinned, I think most women in Brazil will like MENA men.

Wow lol

[zhaoyun]

I haven't seen one of your pics so far, but the question is not whether one fits or not. Almost anyone fits in Brazil. The thing is, White privilege might be a somewhat overused term in North America, but it is a very real and palpable concept in Latin America.

Despite all the criticism, the US in general is a fairer society than most.

[Black Panther]

In these movies, Brazil comes across as a country filled with socio-economic problems (crime, police corruption, poverty, street gangs), not as the land of White worshipers, lol.

Because that wasn't the focus of the movie. And it's not like Brazil's White elite wants to promote movies where this subject is dealt with. They want racism to continue surviving on a low profile (which is a very smart move). If non-White Brazilians realized what's going on, the country would have gone through a revolution a long time ago, lol.

[Black Panther]

Despite all the criticism, the US in general is a fairer society than most.

I am pretty sure it is. There is no comparison to be honest. Aframs don't deal with 10% of what Afro-Brazilians do.

[zhaoyun]

Because that wasn't the focus of the movie. And it's not like Brazil's White elite wants to promote movies where this subject is dealt with. They want racism to continue surviving on a low profile (which is a very smart move). If non-White Brazilians realized what's going on, the country would have gone through a revolution a long time ago, lol.

Instead they're obsessed about ass size and ass shaking like Heathers is. LOL

[Black Panther]

Instead they're obsessed about ass size and ass shaking like Heathers is. LOL

It's quite sad, honestly. The whole situation is depressing once you realize what's happening. But I don't blame poor non-Whites in Brazil (Wealthier ones should know better, though). It's not easy to acquire a good understanding of things when you are engulfed by the media propaganda to think and behave a certain way. In a way, Aframs were lucky they were in a wealthier country (even though as the poorest race), that had segregation, because it allowed to think more cautiously and carefully about race. Blacks in Brazil do not have that luxury, which (in my opinion) explains the gap between the accomplishments of Aframs and Afro-Brazilians. It's sad to say this, but most non-Whites in Brazil think like children. White people tell them what to think and what to say, and they all do it accordingly.

[zhaoyun]

It's quite sad, honestly. The whole situation is depressing once you realize what's happening. But I don't blame poor non-Whites in Brazil (Wealthier ones should know better, though). It's not easy to acquire a good understanding of things when you are engulfed by the media propaganda to think and behave a certain way. In a way, Aframs were lucky they were in a wealthier country (even though as the poorest race), that had segregation, because it allowed to think more cautiously and carefully about race. Blacks in Brazil do not have that luxury, which (in my opinion) explains the gap between the accomplishments of Aframs and Afro-Brazilians. It's sad to say this, but most non-Whites in Brazil think like children. White people tell them what to think and what to say, and they all do it accordingly.

In that case the most important goal should be improving the education and intellectual culture of the people first, if they are behaving like children and just becoming angrier because of racial politics, it doesn't really help. They need to be able to sustain themselves first as a people. That's why I respect Black activists such as Malcolm X more than others because they recognized the importance of focusing on self-improvement and self-empowerment. This is an ongoing issue with all Black communities in the West honestly. Maybe some Black African country one day could develop and buck the tide, but most Western Black societies are culturally degraded at a deep level that they aren't able to truly empower themselves. Even in the US, even though there are notable Afram figures, the Afram community in general still lag behind greatly when it comes to owning their own businesses and land in their own communities.

[Smitty]

If you are a tourist, yes. Latin America is very welcoming. But for poor Blacks and Amerindians who live there or immigrate there (in he case of Blacks), Latin America is definitely a hostile territory. LA is a highly classist society as well, so even if you are non-White but you have cash, you will be treated better. But as soon as the money runs out... Being non-White will be a problem. If I didn't have money, I wouldn't even step my feet in Latin America. It's not worth it, lol.

Surely, poor whites wouldn't have any advantages, though. I mean poor on the level of Latin Americans themselves. I can't imagine any society outside of truly isolated tribal ones where simply being white would carry any currency.

[Black Panther]

In that case the most important goal should be improving the education and intellectual culture of the people first, if they are behaving like children and just becoming angrier because of racial politics, it doesn't really help. They need to be able to sustain themselves first as a people. That's why I respect Black activists such as Malcolm X more than others because they recognized the importance of focusing on self-improvement and self-empowerment. This is an ongoing issue with all Black communities in the West honestly. Maybe some Black African country one day could develop and buck the tide, but most Western Black societies are culturally degraded at a deep level that they aren't able to truly empower themselves. Even in the US, even though there are notable Afram figures, the Afram community in general still lag behind greatly when it comes to owning their own businesses and land in their own communities.

Oh, I know. Aframs are regressing culturally and economically in America. It's sad because for many racially aware Blacks in Latin America, they are a primary source of inspiration. And you are absolutely right. It's very important to keep your cool in situations like this, especially when there is hope and potential for change. The good thing is once people wake-up, they can't go back to sleep again. And they will tell others about this. I was the first in my family to become knowledgeable of Brazil's dirty secrets at age 15 and have ever since brought light to many people in my family. I know others who have gone through the same path there. The most crucial thing is to find balance in my opinion. Malcolm was cold, but he wasn't cowardly. He didn't rage against random Whites, but he didn't keep his understanding of American White racism to himself either. He was open, direct and brave to face the enemy in the eye and tell the truth no matter where it would lead him. He also emphasized through his actions and words that finding like-minded people with whom to organize is extremely important. It not only helps you find opportunities for economic or political growth, but it also strengthens your soul: You know you are not an isolated atom in the middle of chaos.

Unfortunately, I am not a talented speaker like Malcolm X or Martin Luther King, and (perhaps because of my youth) I wouldn't want to take such a step in my life because I know it would mean to put my life on the line. However, I will certainly network with like-minded mixed race and Afro-Brazilians once I return to Brazil. Who knows, maybe I can find the right people to help finance an adapted version of a Brazilian Malcolm X in the not-so-distant future. Anyway, my primary goal is to make an all-Black/Pardo company in Brazil, but cater to a multiracial set of customers. I hope it works.

[Black Panther]

Surely, poor whites wouldn't have any advantages, though. I mean poor on the level of Latin Americans themselves. I can't imagine any society outside of truly isolated tribal ones where simply being white would carry any currency.

Poor Whites have advantages in Latin America. The very fact that you have a media promoting you as beautiful, intelligent and perhaps even more importantly, as a standard for everything positive in a country where you are a minority, is enough to give you an edge over others. Then there is the economy which is 95% White-owned in Latin America, meaning you have twice as many job opportunities as others.

[zhaoyun]

Oh, I know. Aframs are regressing culturally and economically in America. It's sad because for many racially aware Blacks in Latin America, they are a primary source of inspiration. And you are absolutely right. It's very important to keep your cool in situations like this, especially when there is hope and potential for change. The good thing is once people wake-up, they can't go back to sleep again. And they will tell others about this. I was the first in my family to become knowledgeable of Brazil's dirty secrets at age 15 and have ever since brought light to many people in my family. I know others who have gone through the same path there. The most crucial thing is to find balance in my opinion. Malcolm was cold, but he wasn't cowardly. He didn't rage against random Whites, but he didn't keep his understanding of American White racism to himself either. He was open, direct and brave to face the enemy in the eye and tell the truth no matter where it would lead him. He also emphasized through his actions and words that finding like-minded people with whom to organize is extremely important. It not only helps you find opportunities for economic or political growth, but it also strengthens your soul: You know you are not an isolated atom in the middle of chaos.

Unfortunately, I am not a talented speaker like Malcolm X or Martin Luther King, and (perhaps because of my youth) I wouldn't want to take such a step in my life because I know it would mean to put my life on the line. However, I will certainly network with like-minded mixed race and Afro-Brazilians once I return to Brazil. Who knows, maybe I can find the right people to help finance an adapted version of a Brazilian Malcolm X in the not-so-distant future. Anyway, my primary goal is to make an all-Black/Pardo company in Brazil, but cater to a multiracial set of customers. I hope it works.

Make Heathers the CEO, don't let down ya boy.

[1R0N M4N XL]

I haven't seen one of your pics so far, but the question is not whether one fits or not. Almost anyone fits in Brazil. The thing is, White privilege might be a somewhat overused term in North America, but it is a very real and palpable concept in Latin America.

I thought Brazil was like melting pot.. Just wondering there's like 2 million japanese in Brazil? How are the treated?

. I myself want to visit Brazil see that giant statue in Rio.

[Loki]

another glitch/bug. Nature made a mistake over his gender and self-identity.. lol

A glitch in the matrix, lol...

What is this world coming to?

[Black Panther]

Make Heathers the CEO, don't let down ya boy.

Then I should become a magazine publisher talking about African American celebrities. With Heathers as a CEO, I'd be a billionaire in 3 years.

[1R0N M4N XL]

Since the world is communiting now.. We would to hook up with Brazil and the rest of Latin America.

[1R0N M4N XL]

Then I should become a magazine publisher talking about African American celebrities. With Heathers as a CEO, I'd be a billionaire in 3 years.

Dude!!! I have my own website.. Becoming a news publishing.. Ill msg u in pvt msg if u want.

[Black Panther]

I thought Brazil was like melting pot.. Just wondering there's like 2 million japanese in Brazil? How are the treated?

. I myself want to visit Brazil see that giant statue in Rio.

The Japanese are treated like light-skinned mixed people, though they are seen as a business oriented upper-middle class ethnic group. The downside is because of their cultural heritage and demographic size, a lot of people (usually White Brazilians) feel free to make demeaning and distasteful jokes against Japanese people or Asians in general. However, because the Japanese tend to be very united and run family-businesses, they have managed to "protect" themselves as a people there.

[Black Panther]

Dude!!! I have my own website.. Becoming a news publishing.. Ill msg u in pvt msg if u want.

Thank you. I accept any business tips.

[KMack]

This thread went way OT.

[JohnSmith]

Interesting

[zhaoyun]

The Japanese are treated like light-skinned mixed people, though they are seen as a business oriented upper-middle class ethnic group. The downside is because of their cultural heritage and demographic size, a lot of people (usually White Brazilians) feel free to make demeaning and distasteful jokes against Japanese people or Asians in general. However, because the Japanese tend to be very united and run family-businesses, they have managed to "protect" themselves as a people there.

Actually FME all types of Latinos from White to Amerindian to Black seem to think it's ok to make fun of Asians. Of course, it's not something I particularly care about as they usually don't have any power over Asians, but it's something I've noticed.

[Black Panther]

Actually FME all types of Latinos from White to Amerindian to Black seem to think it's ok to make fun of Asians. Of course, it's not something I particularly care about as they usually don't have any power over Asians, but it's something I've noticed.

I'd say it's mostly Whites, at least in Brazil. Blacks and Pardos might feel like it's wrong making fun of others because they are constantly made fun of themselves. Whites feel too comfortable in that country to say whatever they want. But perhaps it might be a bit different in other Latin American countries.

[Magnolia]

If he think he has Filipino's soul, he should be respected like that.

[greasycaveman]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?227124-Non-euros-Do-I-look-non-european

[wvwvw]

Attention drama queen

[Skjaldemjøden]

Why is this newsworthy?

[Ashlyn]

"Whenever I'm around the music, around the food, I feel like I'm in my own skin," he said. "I'd watch the history channel sometimes for hours you know whenever it came to that and you know nothing else intrigues me more but things about Filipino culture." Although Ja Du can't change the way he presents outwardly, he's embraced all aspects of his identity as it relates to the way he lives his life. He can often be found driving around his native Tampa, Fla., in a purple Tuk Tuk, a three-wheeled vehicle often used as public transportation in the Philippines.

So he drives a tuk tuk that's very nice. The tuk tuk is Sri Lankan, Thai, or even Egyptian while the tricycle, so named as it is often a sidecar on a motorcycle, is a bit different & more typical of Philippines. So he likes the food isn't it ironic that millions of Americans like chinese food thus, in his limited mind, they've got to be transracial Chinese. And he likes the music but is that folk/traditional music or music emulating/taken from European/western society seeing as I know many Filipinos and a number enjoy non-Asatic/Philippines music.

Ultimately, as said, he's a "glitch". It is highly unlikely he can speak the language, it is rather unlikely he knows anything about the culture, beliefs, religion, etc. beyond whatever rubbish he watches on television, and I wouldn't be surprised if he went to the Philippines he'd last a meager couple of months.


The irony is, is I believe he said somewhere he doesn't mean any insult. He doesn't mean to appropriate their culture (don't see why he says that as he appears to know very little to nothing about it). Either way he should go ask a Filipino, one straight off the boat from the Philipines, what they think of their newfound "brother [or sister]".

[zhaoyun]

So he drives a tuk tuk that's very nice. The tuk tuk is Sri Lankan, Thai, or even Egyptian while the tricycle, so named as it is often a sidecar on a motorcycle, is a bit different & more typical of Philippines. So he likes the food isn't it ironic that millions of Americans like chinese food thus, in his limited mind, they've got to be transracial Chinese. And he likes the music but is that folk/traditional music or music emulating/taken from European/western society seeing as I know many Filipinos and a number enjoy non-Asatic/Philippines music.

Ultimately, as said, he's a "glitch". It is highly unlikely he can speak the language, it is rather unlikely he knows anything about the culture, beliefs, religion, etc. beyond whatever rubbish he watches on television, and I wouldn't be surprised if he went to the Philippines he'd last a meager couple of months.


The irony is, is I believe he said somewhere he doesn't mean any insult. He doesn't mean to appropriate their culture (don't see why he says that as he appears to know very little to nothing about it). Either way he should go ask a Filipino, one straight off the boat from the Philipines, what they think of their newfound "brother [or sister]".

Come to think of it, the tuk tuk is Thai. So basically this guy lives in Florida and he drives a Thai vehicle and thinks he's Filipino? What a complete fucktard.

[1R0N M4N XL]

If he think he has Filipino's soul, he should be respected like that.

his a transsexual from florida ,that don't speak Filipino language. I don't think he have Filipino friends... he basically just watch a lot of T.V.. but his not the only .. average Filipino would probably think he is unsual or strange.. but if he is interest most of Filipinos would probably try to help him get learn. after he passes.. his in the circle. .




Attention drama queen


Why is this newsworthy?

because its un usual.


So he drives a tuk tuk that's very nice. The tuk tuk is Sri Lankan, Thai, or even Egyptian while the tricycle, so named as it is often a sidecar on a motorcycle, is a bit different & more typical of Philippines. So he likes the food isn't it ironic that millions of Americans like chinese food thus, in his limited mind, they've got to be transracial Chinese. And he likes the music but is that folk/traditional music or music emulating/taken from European/western society seeing as I know many Filipinos and a number enjoy non-Asatic/Philippines music.

Ultimately, as said, he's a "glitch". It is highly unlikely he can speak the language, it is rather unlikely he knows anything about the culture, beliefs, religion, etc. beyond whatever rubbish he watches on television, and I wouldn't be surprised if he went to the Philippines he'd last a meager couple of months.


The irony is, is I believe he said somewhere he doesn't mean any insult. He doesn't mean to appropriate their culture (don't see why he says that as he appears to know very little to nothing about it). Either way he should go ask a Filipino, one straight off the boat from the Philipines, what they think of their newfound "brother [or sister]".

it's called tuk tuk as well in Philippines. the mainstream is now open to tolerance of gays.. it's also illegal to discriminate against gays..

however he would probably not welcome by hardcore catholics and attacked by muslims extremist from the south..

I don't know if he will change his mind, once he finds out the Catholics views of trans sexual.

[Root]

A glitch in the matrix, lol...

What is this world coming to?



It's either a genetically modified food, or a genetic change itself/gene mutation..that guy most likely has an OFW (Off Filipino Dillema).. I really hope that one day the scientists will invent&produce some OWD-abuse vaccine very soon, some ppl on TheApricity need it as well

[Lurker]

Some time ago there was this case of a blonde Brazilian who underwent 10 surgical procedures to become Asian. His name was Xiahn.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2645950/I-fun-bein-Korean-Blonde-Brazilian-man-undergoes-extraordinary-surgery-achieve-convincing-Oriental-look.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/02/article-0-1E65E0E600000578-435_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/02/article-2645950-1E65E10300000578-279_634x738.jpg

I wonder if transracialism in the future is going to get the same treatment as transgenderism is receiving now. Maybe there'll be a movie about these people in the future, just like there was the "Danish girl".

[Lurker]

There was also the case of American Rachel Dolezal. She identified as black, was a black activist and was a teacher of African American studies in a university. But she was born white, to two white parents. She said that "race is a social construct" and that she was born white, but identifies as black.

https://media2.fdncms.com/inlander/imager/u/original/2490721/news3-1.jpg

[Lurker]

How did Vietnam manage to free itself from China unlike the other regions? :confused:

http://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/vietnam-before-french-colonisation/

Vietnamese independence was not secured until the 10th century. In 939, Viet general Ngo Quyen comprehensively defeated a Chinese force at Bach Dang River. Three decades later, Viet warlord Dinh Bo Linh consolidated independence by negotiating a series of compromises with the Chinese. Rather than resisting the Chinese entirely, Dinh Bo Linh agreed to rule Vietnam as a vassal state. The Viet people would abide by Chinese law and send regular tribute payments north, in return for a large degree of political autonomy. For the next nine centuries the northern half of Vietnam was called Dai Viet and was ruled by a series of local dynasties.

[MissMischief]

Pretty damn weird, I don't get it. He can be fascinated with the culture but identifying as Filipino?

I mean, a person can be white and like Filipino culture. They can embrace it and live it, dress it, eat it, watch all the shows and learn the language... that's all fine. It still doesn't make a person another ethnicity any more than wearing high heels actually make me tall.

I'm guessing he spends too much time on Tumblr xD

[zhaoyun]

Pretty damn weird, I don't get it. He can be fascinated with the culture but identifying as Filipino?

I mean, a person can be white and like Filipino culture. They can embrace it and live it, dress it, eat it, watch all the shows and learn the language... that's all fine. It still doesn't make a person another ethnicity any more than wearing high heels actually make me tall.

I'm guessing he spends too much time on Tumblr xD

He doesn't even speak Tagalog nor does he even seem to have any Filipino friends. FFS, he's never even been to the Philippines and drives around a Thai vehicle. He probably gravitates towards a different culture because he's a social reject where he is from, and I can see why.

[zhaoyun]

http://alphahistory.com/vietnamwar/vietnam-before-french-colonisation/

Vietnamese independence was not secured until the 10th century. In 939, Viet general Ngo Quyen comprehensively defeated a Chinese force at Bach Dang River. Three decades later, Viet warlord Dinh Bo Linh consolidated independence by negotiating a series of compromises with the Chinese. Rather than resisting the Chinese entirely, Dinh Bo Linh agreed to rule Vietnam as a vassal state. The Viet people would abide by Chinese law and send regular tribute payments north, in return for a large degree of political autonomy. For the next nine centuries the northern half of Vietnam was called Dai Viet and was ruled by a series of local dynasties.

Vietnam, Korea, Mongolia, those are all the long lost provinces of China.

[Heather Duval]

Look at Heathers FFS. LOL

If I was Afram, I definitely wouldn't trade places with an Afro Brazilian for sure.

Since when I hate myself? And blacks in Brazil have always lived better socially than the Aframs, why you think people here are mixed as fuck?
Tri racial is the most common race in Brazil because the ethnic groups have always lived with each other here, no ethnically neighborhoods and Jim Crow.
Brazil never had Jim Crow's era, of course, there have always been prejudices, but not established by laws. And also racism here is illegal by laws since 1989, meanwhile US has "free speech". :rolleyes:

[zhaoyun]

Since when I hate myself? And blacks in Brazil have always lived better socially than the Aframs, why you think people here are mixed as fuck?
Tri racial is the most common race in Brazil because the ethnic groups have always lived with each other here, no ethnically neighborhoods and Jim Crow.
Brazil never had Jim Crow's era, of course, there have always been prejudices, but not established by laws. And also racism here is illegal by laws since 1989, meanwhile US has "free speech". :rolleyes:

You're very insecure about your racial background, it shows in all of your posts. But keep denying it, everyone sees it though.

[Heather Duval]

You're very insecure about your racial background, it shows in all of your posts. But keep denying it, everyone sees it though.

You gonna say any thing because you are one of my 19283848 haters in this forum. You do not even know me, you are not my friend and you are not part of my family in real life to affirm such bullshit.

[zhaoyun]

You gonna say any thing because you are one of my 19283848 haters in this forum. You do not even know me, you are not my friend and you are not part of my family in real life to affirm such bullshit.

Well, you write 1000 posts a day, it's pretty clear what your thought process is. Honestly, your thoughts online probably reveal far more of what you are thinking than what you reveal to your friends IRL.

[Heather Duval]

I am pretty sure it is. There is no comparison to be honest. Aframs don't deal with 10% of what Afro-Brazilians do.

Yes, it should be better to live in a country where "free speech" exists, Jim Crow society still exist because EVERYONE KNOWS USA still segregated. :rolleyes:

[Heather Duval]

Well, you write 1000 posts a day, it's pretty clear what your thought process is. Honestly, your thoughts online probably reveal far more of what you are thinking than what you reveal to your friends IRL.

I really do not care what you think, you're just one of my many haters on this forum so anything negative you're going to say about me. And no, no white Brazilians do not hate themselves because nobody really thinks about races 24-7 in this country, like Americans or an anthrretaed forum do. You are just a complexed that is probably afraid of suffering racism in Brazil because you have seen news that we make jokes about Asians, but do not worry because since 1989 there is a law that has made racism Ilegal. You can call the police if you see it.

[zhaoyun]

I really do not care what you think, you're just one of my many haters on this forum so anything negative you're going to say about me. And no, no white Brazilians do not hate themselves because nobody really thinks about races 24-7 in this country, like Americans or an anthrretaed forum do. You are just a complexed that is probably afraid of suffering racism in Brazil because you have seen news that we make jokes about Asians, but do not worry because since 1989 there is a law that has made racism Ilegal. You can call the police if you see it.

Actually, I'm not your hater, you're just narcissistic like Fractal is. You make everything revolve around you. I honestly don't care about you one way or another, but just pointing out the obvious about your racial insecurities since someone mentioned Brazil.

[Heather Duval]

Actually, I'm not your hater, you're just narcissistic like Fractal is. You make everything revolve around you. I honestly don't care about you one way or another, but just pointing out the obvious about your racial insecurities since someone mentioned Brazil.

That old Brazilian woman who called Asiatics disgusting, was arrested for racism. But she died before going to jail.

[Heather Duval]

Actually, I'm not your hater, you're just narcissistic like Fractal is. You make everything revolve around you. I honestly don't care about you one way or another, but just pointing out the obvious about your racial insecurities since someone mentioned Brazil.

That old Brazilian woman who called Asiatics disgusting, was arrested for racism. But she died before going to jail. And im just here because you mentioned my name in your fucking delusional post " US fairy society" lol

[zhaoyun]

That old Brazilian woman who called Asiatics disgusting, was arrested for racism. But she died before going to jail. And im just here because you mentioned my name in your fucking delusional post " US fairy society" lol

Alright man LOL I could care less, she has no impact on my life.

[Black Panther]

Yes, it should be better to live in a country where "free speech" exists, Jim Crow society still exist because EVERYONE KNOWS USA still segregated. :rolleyes:

Segregation is not the worst thing per say. And there are multiracial neighborhoods in America for anyone who wants to live among people of different races. Besides, I would much rather be in a segregated place where my race is somewhat respected than in a place where "there is no segregation", but my race is constantly made fun of, marginalized and murdered. I love my Black and Pardo Brazilians, but there is no doubt Aframs have it better because they are more racially conscious and the Whites there are more straight-forward than in Brazil. A guy like William Waack would most likely have been fired in America and no one in MSM would defend him. In Brazil, the whole right-wing is saying Waack was just playing around and joking... And don't get me started on police brutality... 160 Blacks die in the hands of police every year. In Brazil, this number is in the thousands :(

[Black Panther]

Alright man LOL I could care less, she has no impact on my life.

It's not like Brazil is this anti-racism country anyway. Look at what this TV presenter did in Brazil. No backlash from the local media...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brazilian-tv-host-sparks-race-10860312

[zhaoyun]

It's not like Brazil is this anti-racism country anyway. Look at what this TV presenter did in Brazil. No backlash from the local media...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brazilian-tv-host-sparks-race-10860312

yeah not surprising at all. That dude looks like a pig btw.

[Dandelion]

These fucking idiots are a waste of time. He can think whatever he wants, but his delusions are just that.

He better not identify as Han Chinese, especially not as Northern Chinese.

[Black Panther]

yeah not surprising at all. That dude looks like a pig btw.

Typical old Italian-Brazilian guy. A Smiley racist.

[Black Panther]

yeah not surprising at all. That dude looks like a pig btw.

edit.

[Dandelion]

Yes, it should be better to live in a country where "free speech" exists, Jim Crow society still exist because EVERYONE KNOWS USA still segregated. :rolleyes:

You were transracial and transgender at the same time at a point. You were a blonde white girl of German-Italian descent. It got guys to send you dick pics, but usually too small white dicks for you to be 'interested'.

[Heather Duval]

It's not like Brazil is this anti-racism country anyway. Look at what this TV presenter did in Brazil. No backlash from the local media...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brazilian-tv-host-sparks-race-10860312

Because is a racism against Asians, most people dont care about them here.
https://www.opovo.com.br/noticiasimages/app/noticia_146418291334/2017/11/08/328179/William-Waack-Reproduo.jpg

William Waack
Journalism very famous in Brazil, was banished last week from the TV for saying "This is a black thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhzgqDdbm4Q

And he was almost arrested too

Although racism is an unstoppable crime, Gilmar Mendes of the Federal Supreme Court has acquitted Globo journalist William Waack, who said "it's a black thing", complaining about a citizen hooting in the street during newspaper coverage in the United States; since the video surfaced, Waack was criticized even by artists of the own company, like the actor Lázaro Ramos; Globo dismissed the journalist and he also lost his program on GloboNews
https://www.brasil247.com/pt/247/poder/327020/Gilmar-absolve-Waack-do-crime-de-racismo-%E2%80%9CTodos-n%C3%B3s-podemos-errar%E2%80%9D.htm

[zhaoyun]

He better not identify as Han Chinese, especially not as Northern Chinese.

They'd just be seen as a creepy weirdo tbh. Although if they did put in effort to learn for real, he'd be able to make friends. But this guy doesn't seem like he's really learning Filipino culture, he's just driving around a tuk tuk in Florida and fantasizing about being Filipino. He's deranged tbh.

[Root]

yeah not surprising at all. That dude looks like a pig btw.



https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10860391.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/THP_MDG_240717SBT_365JPG.jpg



this oink oink is Hosni Mubarak's twin brother ;D

[Heather Duval]

Segregation is not the worst thing per say. And there are multiracial neighborhoods in America for anyone who wants to live among people of different races. Besides, I would much rather be in a segregated place where my race is somewhat respected than in a place where "there is no segregation", but my race is constantly made fun of, marginalized and murdered. I love my Black and Pardo Brazilians, but there is no doubt Aframs have it better because they are more racially conscious and the Whites there are more straight-forward than in Brazil. A guy like William Waack would most likely have been fired in America and no one in MSM would defend him. In Brazil, the whole right-wing is saying Waack was just playing around and joking... And don't get me started on police brutality... 160 Blacks die in the hands of police every year. In Brazil, this number is in the thousands :(

William Waack was almost arrested but forgiven by Gilmar Mendes of the Federal Supreme Court
lol
In US it would be called free speech, you have people saying bad things about blacks there and the police cant do anything because racism isnt ilegal in America. :picard1:

[Black Panther]

Because is a racism against Asians, most people dont care about them here.
https://www.opovo.com.br/noticiasimages/app/noticia_146418291334/2017/11/08/328179/William-Waack-Reproduo.jpg

William Waack
Journalism very famous in Brazil, was banished last week from the TV for saying "This is a black thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhzgqDdbm4Q

And he was almost arrested too

Although racism is an unstoppable crime, Gilmar Mendes of the Federal Supreme Court has acquitted Globo journalist William Waack, who said "it's a black thing", complaining about a citizen hooting in the street during newspaper coverage in the United States; since the video surfaced, Waack was criticized even by artists of the own company, like the actor Lázaro Ramos; Globo dismissed the journalist and he also lost his program on GloboNews
https://www.brasil247.com/pt/247/poder/327020/Gilmar-absolve-Waack-do-crime-de-racismo-%E2%80%9CTodos-n%C3%B3s-podemos-errar%E2%80%9D.htm

He wasn't banned from TV though. Globo (one of the most racist media networks on the planet beside Television) is just waiting for things to cool down so they can get him back in a couple of weeks. But at least it shows a sign that this is becoming less and less tolerable in Brazilian society. As for Asians, they might not have a numerous community in Brazil like they do in America, but racism against them should be taken seriously anyway. Brazil will only live up to its promises of order and progress once everyone is respected equally.

[Dandelion]

They'd just be seen as a creepy weirdo tbh. Although if they did put in effort to learn for real, he'd be able to make friends. But this guy doesn't seem like he's really learning Filipino culture, he's just driving around a tuk tuk in Florida and fantasizing about being Filipino. He's deranged tbh.

Then it'd still be best not to throw around the term transracial.

There's such white YTer who wants to be considered Japanese and refers to Japanese people in first person plural. At least she considers herself white still. ;) Her last application for citizenship got denied.

[Black Panther]

William Waack was almost arrested but forgiven by Gilmar Mendes of the Federal Supreme Court
lol
In US it would be called free speech, you have people saying bad things about blacks there and the police cant do anything because racism isnt ilegal in America. :picard1:

In America, you say whatever you want, but you face the consequences for it. Sure, a White American journalist could have said the same thing on TV there, but they would have fired him immediately after because Blacks are more respected there than in Brazil. That's just the reality.

[Heather Duval]

He wasn't banned from TV though. Globo (one of the most racist media networks on the planet beside Television) is just waiting for things to cool down so they can get him back in a couple of weeks. But at least it shows a sign that this is becoming less and less tolerable in Brazilian society. As for Asians, they might not have a numerous community in Brazil like they do in America, but racism against them should be taken seriously anyway. Brazil will only live up to its promises of order and progress once everyone is respected equally.

Where in USA people get arrested for saying even the nigger word? He was almost arrested if it wanst for the Gilmar Mendes of the Federal Supreme Court !
Have a good life in the USA, be called a nigger and other shit you can not report to the police station.

[Dandelion]

One thing is for sure, it is very unlikely that Anthony PV identifies with this transracial guy.

[Heather Duval]

In America, you say whatever you want, but you face the consequences for it. Sure, a White American journalist could have said the same thing on TV there, but they would have fired him immediately after because Blacks are more respected there than in Brazil. That's just the reality.

But he got fired. And that does not matter, he was almost arrested, just was not arrested for being probably rich. Lol, black Brazilians are privileged to live in a country where you can go to the police station to claim that you was called black.

[Black Panther]

Where in USA people get arrested for saying even the nigger word? He was almost arrested if it wanst for the Gilmar Mendes of the Federal Supreme Court !
Have a good life in the USA, be called a nigger and other shit you can not report to the police station.

No one goes to jail for offending Blacks in Brazil, not even a guy who was completely brazen about it like Waack. Yeah, the law is there, but who follows it? They just fine the person or not even that. What truly works against those racists is hurting their pockets. You have to fire them, not give them a time off. America tends to fire racist journalists or at least the people boycott them until they are fired. I don't see that happening in Brazil.

[Black Panther]

But he got fired. And that does not matter, he was almost arrested, just was not arrested for being probably rich. Lol, black Brazilians are privileged to live in a country where you can go to the police station to claim that you was called black.

He wasn't fired. He got a time off.

[Heather Duval]

No one goes to jail for offending Blacks in Brazil, not even a guy who was completely brazen about it like Waack. Yeah, the law is there, but who follows it? They just fine the person or not even that. What truly works against those racists is hurting their pockets. You have to fire them, not give them a time off. America tends to fire racist journalists or at least the people boycott them until they are fired. I don't see that happening in Brazil.

Mulher é presa suspeita de injúria racial em supermercado do Rio
Ela teria dito a gerente de loja no Leblon: 'Volta para sua senzala'.
Suspeita será levada para Bangu neste domingo.

Woman arrested for suspected racial slurs in supermarket in Rio
She is a store manager at Leblon: 'Go back to your shantytown'.
Suspect will be taken to Bangu on Sunday.
http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/05/mulher-e-presa-suspeita-de-racismo-em-supermercado-na-zona-sul-do-rio.html

Yes, people here indeed goes to jail. Only racial injury is fundable, not racism. I think you're complex and afraid to report them. I would have no problem suing someone for racial injury. I would prob make money on that. Youre also wasting many times being osbsed with races, I never heard any black friend of mine being victim of racism here, quite the opossite. Many of them insits if it happen they will report them by police and get some money for racial injury.

[Lurker]

Very off-topic, but since people talked about Brazil in this thread I will as well.

Racism in Brazil is a very complex issue. There's racism in every country in the world, that's the fact, but it assumes different shapes in different countries.

Brazil's racism comes from its colonial times and was reinforced by scientific racism of the late 19th century and early 20th century, but, like all things, it assumed a different shape than in other places. Slavery in Brazil was different from slavery in the US, for example. Like in other latin countries (including Haiti), there was a different place in society for mulattoes and freed blacks. They were not automatically enslaved, some of them became the middle class of society, adn the rate of manumission was much higher. In some cases they were able to rise in society and join the upper class (like Xica da Silva), mixing with it and making their descendants whiter and whiter as they married within it, until their descendants couldn't be distinguished from Europeans.

This escape route from racism was one of the reasons anti-racism discourse didn't get so much traction in Brazil compared to other places. There's some meritocracy inside the racism. Very skilled blacks will be able to enter high society, and although they'll face prejudice, if they mix their descendants will be able to be treated as fully part of high society in the future.

Miscegeneation also was a part of how racists wanted to deal with blacks in the early 20th century. While the US was outlawing mixed race marriages during Jim Crow, in Brazil the racist among the elites thought that the only way for Brazil to become a developed country was to "whiten" the country. Two things would be needed for that: mass immigration from Europe and miscigenation between whites and blacks until people didn't look black anymore. You can see a somewhat successful "whitening" of a country in Argentina and Uruguay, where blacks almost disappeared from their society due to mixing and where a good % of them look completely white.

Even with all this, anti-racism and black rights movements in Brazil emerged. The reason they weren't as succesful as in the US, and this is something most American and European brazilianists fail to take into consideration, was the dictatorships and coups that happened throughout Brazilian history. There was a black elite in Brazil at the end of the 19th century for example (the Rebouças brothers, very succesful engineers, were an example of that, they had plans to be part of a government that would treat the former slaves better), but they mostly sided with the monarchy at the very end of it and when the Republic was established they were exiled. During the early Republican period (1900-1930), pro-Black movements slowly arose in society, like Black Brazilian Legion, which immitated what the European/Lebanese/Japanese immigrants did in setting up clubs to aid members of their community. The Black Brazilian Legion wanted to put a Black presidential candidate in the 1938 elections. But Getulio Vargas made a coup and forbid all political parties in 1937, including that society, which set back the fight for Black Brazilians decades. Again in the 1960s there was talk among the Afro Brazilians to demand their rights, but that was curtailed in 1964 with the military coup. The military dictatorship wanted no talk of racial inequality, people were supposed to be Brazilian, period, so again the discussions were forbidden. Only after redemocratization, in 1985, is dicussion about civil rights allowed again. Racial quotas are established only in the 2000s for universities, for example.

Brazilian racial inequality is worse than American racial inequality, but then again all inequalities in Brazil are worse (gender, class, urban-rural, regional, etc).

Some things are exactly the same. Police profile blacks more and are more brutal towards them. There was the case of two black students that were racing because they were late to their test and the police stopped them because they thought they were thieves. Or the case of a black adopted child of an European couple who was expelled from a fancy restaurant because the restaurant owner thought it was one of the homeless childs that roam Brazil. This happens especially if you're really black looking, I mean Kunta Kinte looking black. In Brazil if you're not very black, you're white. In the US if you're not very white, you're black (or brown).

I have something positive to say about Brazil though. People in Brazil seggregate less than people in the US according to race. They think less about race, and they care less about race in terms of friendship, employment or dating. Racial housing seggregation and people moving out of a neighbourhood because blacks moved in is something unheard of in Brazil. The differences in gender in interracial dating was also something that I learned about only in these forums and American culture. In some of the black civil rights movements forums in Brazil, for example, people say that black women marry outside their race much more than black men and should be ashamed of it (which is the opposite of what happens in the US, from what I've read).In my personal view, there's actually no gender disparity in interracial marriage or dating here.

[Heather Duval]

Very off-topic, but since people talked about Brazil in this thread I will as well.

Racism in Brazil is a very complex issue. There's racism in every country in the world, that's the fact, but it assumes different shapes in different countries.

Brazil's racism comes from its colonial times and was reinforced by scientific racism of the late 19th century and early 20th century, but, like all things, it assumed a different shape than in other places. Slavery in Brazil was different from slavery in the US, for example. Like in other latin countries (including Haiti), there was a different place in society for mulattoes and freed blacks. They were not automatically enslaved, some of them became the middle class of society, adn the rate of manumission was much higher. In some cases they were able to rise in society and join the upper class (like Xica da Silva), mixing with it and making their descendants whiter and whiter as they married within it, until their descendants couldn't be distinguished from Europeans.

This escape route from racism was one of the reasons anti-racism discourse didn't get so much traction in Brazil compared to other places. There's some meritocracy inside the racism. Very skilled blacks will be able to enter high society, and although they'll face prejudice, if they mix their descendants will be able to be treated as fully part of high society in the future.

Miscegeneation also was a part of how racists wanted to deal with blacks in the early 20th century. While the US was outlawing mixed race marriages during Jim Crow, in Brazil the racist among the elites thought that the only way for Brazil to become a developed country was to "whiten" the country. Two things would be needed for that: mass immigration from Europe and miscigenation between whites and blacks until people didn't look black anymore. You can see a somewhat successful "whitening" of a country in Argentina and Uruguay, where blacks almost disappeared from their society due to mixing and where a good % of them look completely white.

Even with all this, anti-racism and black rights movements in Brazil emerged. The reason they weren't as succesful as in the US, and this is something most American and European brazilianists fail to take into consideration, was the dictatorships and coups that happened throughout Brazilian history. There was a black elite in Brazil at the end of the 19th century for example (the Rebouças brothers, very succesful engineers, were an example of that, they had plans to be part of a government that would treat the former slaves better), but they mostly sided with the monarchy at the very end of it and when the Republic was established they were exiled. During the early Republican period (1900-1930), pro-Black movements slowly arose in society, like Black Brazilian Legion, which immitated what the European/Lebanese/Japanese immigrants did in setting up clubs to aid members of their community. The Black Brazilian Legion wanted to put a Black presidential candidate in the 1938 elections. But Getulio Vargas made a coup and forbid all political parties in 1937, including that society, which set back the fight for Black Brazilians decades. Again in the 1960s there was talk among the Afro Brazilians to demand their rights, but that was curtailed in 1964 with the military coup. The military dictatorship wanted no talk of racial inequality, people were supposed to be Brazilian, period, so again the discussions were forbidden. Only after redemocratization, in 1985, is dicussion about civil rights allowed again. Racial quotas are established only in the 2000s for universities, for example.

Brazilian racial inequality is worse than American racial inequality, but then again all inequalities in Brazil are worse (gender, class, urban-rural, regional, etc).

Some things are exactly the same. Police profile blacks more and are more brutal towards them. There was the case of two black students that were racing because they were late to their test and the police stopped them because they thought they were thieves. Or the case of a black adopted child of an European couple who was expelled from a fancy restaurant because the restaurant owner thought it was one of the homeless childs that roam Brazil. This happens especially if you're really black looking, I mean Kunta Kinte looking black. In Brazil if you're not very black, you're white. In the US if you're not very white, you're black (or brown).

I have something positive to say about Brazil though. People in Brazil seggregate less than people in the US according to race. They think less about race, and they care less about race in terms of friendship, employment or dating. Racial housing seggregation and people moving out of a neighbourhood because blacks moved in is something unheard of in Brazil. The differences in gender in interracial dating was also something that I learned about only in these forums and American culture. In some of the black civil rights movements forums in Brazil, for example, people say that black women marry outside their race much more than black men and should be ashamed of it (which is the opposite of what happens in the US, from what I've read).In my personal view, there's actually no gender disparity in interracial marriage or dating here.

This. Racism has always existed in Brazil, but never established by law as Jim Crow. Black Americans are purer than we are because of racial segregation that they had, and they have no anti racism laws there, reasoning KKK exist.

[Lightshade25]

Typical old Italian-Brazilian guy. A Smiley racist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raul_Gil

Son of Spanish immigrants.

[Heather Duval]

These are typical Brazilian streets. No one here care about people's race, racial segregation never happened here.
http://www.espacogalera.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/12-rua_de_lazer_Itabira_01-10-2017.jpg
https://catracalivre.com.br/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/02/brincar_na_rua.jpg
http://portaldozacarias.com.br/site/arquivos/imagens/imgeditor/DSC_0074.JPG

[Heather Duval]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raul_Gil

Son of Spanish immigrants.

Everyone knows he is Spaniard, he says many times on TV. But Domare dont live here, he sayd his own opinion on things. Also, the only reason no one cared is because he was racist against Asians, people here dont care about them because they are recent immigrants and dont have any history in our colonial country, so reasoning anti racism laws here usually only works for blacks and indigenous.

[Heather Duval]

And Raul Gil isnt racist. Most artists on his tv show that he helped to become popular in Brazil are mixed or black.
He also has a tv show to found the new Beyoncé.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwodYRFAZlU
What he said about Asians is just a joke, he is well knowing here for making jokes

[Black Panther]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raul_Gil

Son of Spanish immigrants.

Same behavior though.

[Heather Duval]

Same behavior though.

No. Italians and Spaniards are the most integrated in Brazilian culture among new immigrants. Germans are the only racists here, and they live in a bubble.

[Heather Duval]

My dream is to suffer racial injury and even racism, because I need some money right now.

[Tooting Carmen]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?227172-Racial-divisions-in-USA-vs-racial-divisions-in-Brazil-my-theory

[Black Panther]

But he got fired. And that does not matter, he was almost arrested, just was not arrested for being probably rich. Lol, black Brazilians are privileged to live in a country where you can go to the police station to claim that you was called black.

I think our disagreement stems from what we consider important in the fight against racism. You think laws and race-mixing are enough signs of progress. In my opinion, racism is ALL about power. Racism will only be truly over when Blacks own their own media networks, banks, industries and political parties. Until then, Blacks are a people in captivity in Brazil.

[Ashlyn]

it's called tuk tuk as well in Philippines.

Yes, foreign devices but not necessarily (authentic) Filipino ones.

Tuk tuk / tuc tuc are sold by outside manufacturers, such as China, and so massed produced that they're shipped anywhere. You will find stores that do mention these "Philippines" auto rickshaws are of Indian or Bangladesh, etc. (example > Bajaj) origin/design after all.

He seems to be driving some sort of a weird songthaew / tuk tuk cross actually. If so, Thai.



the mainstream is now open to tolerance of gays.. it's also illegal to discriminate against gays..

Couldn't careless if he was genderfluid. The "brother" / "sister" comment comes from the simple fact you can't deny he'd confuse someone from the Philippines.

Talking about legality however.

If someone is completely & utterly ignorant of a culture/ethnicity/society but turns around & risks insulting people of that group by the seeming unintentional mockery are they racists or just fools?



however he would probably not welcome by hardcore catholics and attacked by muslims extremist from the south..

I don't know if he will change his mind, once he finds out the Catholics views of trans sexual.

I was talking more about the difference in culture, the countries, etc. It's rather easy to entertain the concept he is Filipino when nice & cozy in the Americas.

Besides he said the Filipino culture entices him. That he spends "hours" watching history channel. Just assume he has some understanding about their religious views.

[Lightshade25]

Well, Brazil imported more slaves than any other nation in the Western Hemisphere, and held on to the practice of slavery the longest.

Plus, this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_apartheid_in_Brazil


Brazilians with African ancestry earning substantially less than white Brazilians, due to disadvantages in education and wages. Black Brazilians have levels of educational attainment that is two thirds the level of whites, which limits their access to higher paying jobs.


Journalist Kevin G. Hall wrote in 2002 that Afro-Brazilians trail White Brazilians in almost all social indicators, including income and education. Those living in cities are far more likely to be abused or killed by police, or incarcerated than are members of other groups.

Brazil's social situation has negative effects on educational opportunities for the disadvantaged. Critics note that the classes are mostly separated from any interaction other than service: the wealthy live in walled-off gated communities, and the disadvantaged classes do not interact at all with the wealthy "except in domestic service and on the shop floor".

According to France Winddance Twine, the separation by class and race extends into what she terms "spatial apartheid", where upper-class residents and guests, presumed to be white, enter apartments buildings and hotels through the main entrance, while lower-class domestics and service providers enter at the side or rear.

Civil rights activist Carlos Verrisimo writes that Brazil is a racist state, and that the inequities of race and class are often inter-related. Michael Löwy states that the "social apartheid" is manifested in the gated communities, a "social discrimination which also has an implicit racial dimension where the great majority of the poor are black or half caste." Despite Brazil's retreat from military rule and return to democracy in 1988, social apartheid has increased


The chance of a black teenager murdered is 3.7 times higher compared with whites.

The survey also shows that blacks are bigger victims of assault by police. The National Victimization Survey shows that in 2009, 6.5% of blacks who had suffered an aggression as aggressors police or private security guards (who are often working in the police off duty), compared with 3.7% of whites.

According to Daniel Cerqueira, more than 60,000 people are murdered every year in the country and there is a strong bias of color and social status in these deaths: "In proportion black death rate is 135% higher than non-blacks. While the homicide rate for blacks is 36.5 per 100 000 inhabitants, in the case of whites, the ratio is 15.5 per 100 000 inhabitants."

Oh man, Brazil seems like paradise xD

[Heather Duval]

I think our disagreement stems from what we consider important in the fight against racism. You think laws and race-mixing are enough signs of progress. In my opinion, racism is ALL about power. Racism will only be truly over when Blacks own their own media networks, banks, industries and political parties. Until then, Blacks are a people in captivity in Brazil.

We do not have to complain about much. I never suffered racism, nor did my black friends. I lived in a neighborhood with many different ethnic groups and they treat me well, if they did not I would report them for racism or racial injury. What about black Americans? If a white man calls them junk and does not want to live with them, the subject is going to die there. That's the free speech.

[Tooting Carmen]

I think our disagreement stems from what we consider important in the fight against racism. You think laws and race-mixing are enough signs of progress. In my opinion, racism is ALL about power. Racism will only be truly over when Blacks own their own media networks, banks, industries and political parties. Until then, Blacks are a people in captivity in Brazil.

That's an almost Orwellian (re) definition of "fighting against racism". What you're saying is that only if/when Blacks become even more segregated and distinct from Whites than is already the case by having their "own" companies and industries can racism thus die. Do you think that the USA having a channel called the Black Entertainment Network helps ease or eliminate racism?

[Heather Duval]

Well, Brazil imported more slaves than any other nation in the Western Hemisphere, and held on to the practice of slavery the longest.

Plus, this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_apartheid_in_Brazil







Oh man, Brazil seems like paradise xD

"The chance of a black teenager murdered is 3.7 times higher compared with whites."
The blacks themselves kills each others, there's gang warfare every year, and it's very famous.
https://news-images.vice.com/images/2014/03/20/in-photos-the-social-media-of-brazils-gang-wars-article-body-image-1395351199.jpg?output-quality=75
https://news-images.vice.com/images/2014/03/20/in-photos-the-social-media-of-brazils-gang-wars-article-body-image-1395351392.jpg?output-quality=75

And about slavery, most blacks were free people of colour in Brazil before the end of slavery:
https://ogimg.infoglobo.com.br/in/7275327-d98-9d3/FT1500A/550/censoimperio1.jpg
We never had Jim crow laws, kind the opposite because we have anti racism laws since 1989
And the mix of races present in this country is just a demonstration of the racial interaction we had, every Brazilians in this forum scored black and indigenous. In your pseudo apartheid link only shows that majority of poor Brazilians are pardos and blacks and some colonial racism(to prove something), how bad it that? Jim Crows laws seems more hard than that.
:lol:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/%22Colored%22_drinking_fountain_from_mid-20th_century_with_african-american_drinking.jpg/1200px-%22Colored%22_drinking_fountain_from_mid-20th_century_with_african-american_drinking.jpg
http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/media/__sized__/canonical_images/feature/JimCrow_ColoredWaitngRoom_Sign_Canon-resize-1200x0-70.jpg

Unlike America, black Brazilians was never not allowed to that anything and be segrated into colored restaurants, neighborhoods(my paternals grandparents neighborhoods had even Germans, (actually my grandmother was raised by a white woman friend of the family because her mother didnt had money enough to raise her alone) and shits like that you did. Also USA the only country from the new world you can found someone purest black and white due to racial segragations you have, mostly Aframs cant pass in Brazil because they are too dark. Kanye West is a good exemple, he would be a minority here but not in US specially in NYC. And I live in Brazil and I can tell you whats good or not here also because im a minority, meanwhile you cant speak for Aframs cause you never had a black day in your life.

[Lurker]

Is the guy in the OP going to go under surgery to make himself look more filipino? Or at least try to get a tan, like the woman I posted who posed as Afro-American? He can't pass for filipino if he remains white like that.

[Black Panther]

We do not have to complain about much. I never suffered racism, nor did my black friends. I lived in a neighborhood with many different ethnic groups and they treat me well, if they did not I would report them for racism or racial injury. What about black Americans? If a white man calls them junk and does not want to live with them, the subject is going to die there. That's the free speech.

I don't think complaining even works. I just tell things the way I see them. Begging Whites for positions of power will NEVER work. I believe in making businesses, studying and most importantly, networking with like-minded people. As for being treated well, I sincerely don't care about being treated well by other groups. What we need is power. Not approval.

[Heather Duval]

I don't think complaining even works. I just tell things the way I see them. Begging Whites for positions of power will NEVER work. I believe in making businesses, studying and most importantly, networking with like-minded people. As for being treated well, I sincerely don't care about being treated well by other groups. What we need is power. Not approval.

Brazil never had laws prohibiting blacks from shitting in a white bathroom. I can not say the same about the USA.
https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2016/06/10/636011192852965746-712312113_whites-only-paul-mashburn.jpg

[Black Panther]

That's an almost Orwellian (re) definition of "fighting against racism". What you're saying is that only if/when Blacks become even more segregated and distinct from Whites than is already the case by having their "own" companies and industries can racism thus die. Do you think that the USA having a channel called the Black Entertainment Network helps ease or eliminate racism?

It doesn't eliminate racism because Blacks are living in a White majority society, thus it is politically and militarily dominated by them. Whites can do harm to Blacks on a massive level, the opposite isn't possible. But having a media outlet that is owned by Blacks is clearly more positive than having nothing. It means they can discuss Black topics openly without being censored by Whites or Jews. But anyway, BET was sold to non-Blacks, so Aframs have no media of their own anymore.

[1R0N M4N XL]

Yes, foreign devices but not necessarily (authentic) Filipino ones.

Tuk tuk / tuc tuc are sold by outside manufacturers, such as China, and so massed produced that they're shipped anywhere. You will find stores that do mention these "Philippines" auto rickshaws are of Indian or Bangladesh, etc. (example > Bajaj) origin/design after all.

He seems to be driving some sort of a weird songthaew / tuk tuk cross actually. If so, Thai.




Couldn't careless if he was genderfluid. The "brother" / "sister" comment comes from the simple fact you can't deny he'd confuse someone from the Philippines.

Talking about legality however.

If someone is completely & utterly ignorant of a culture/ethnicity/society but turns around & risks insulting people of that group by the seeming unintentional mockery are they racists or just fools?




I was talking more about the difference in culture, the countries, etc. It's rather easy to entertain the concept he is Filipino when nice & cozy in the Americas.

Besides he said the Filipino culture entices him. That he spends "hours" watching history channel. Just assume he has some understanding about their religious views.

he hasn't done anything wrong that will deserve hate... his not rapist or anything like that..

majority of the Filipinos will probably help me fit in to get inside our circles just like this girl..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq2itwocBb0 <--somewhere in the 9:00

majority will not bash him... even if he acts like alien, clueless..

and for the record where already getting used to it... there are Indians & non-Asian races in Philippines that speak better tagalog than I DO, who has Philippine passport and members of the government officials.

[Heather Duval]

It doesn't eliminate racism because Blacks are living in a White majority society, thus it is politically and militarily dominated by them. Whites can do harm to Blacks on a massive level, the opposite isn't possible. But having a media outlet that is owned by Blacks is clearly more positive than having nothing. It means they can discuss Black topics openly without being censored by Whites or Jews. But anyway, BET was sold to non-Blacks, so Aframs have no media of their own anymore.

Lol, Aframs mostly live in black neighborhoods because they were taught during Jim Crow laws not to live with whites, and they are inferior.

"You don't have to live next to me
Just give me my equality "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiAtwQZnHs

[1R0N M4N XL]

Is the guy in the OP going to go under surgery to make himself look more filipino? Or at least try to get a tan, like the woman I posted who posed as Afro-American? He can't pass for filipino if he remains white like that.

getting a plastic surery will make us that think that he is a ''FREAK''..

he doesn't need surgery to be accepted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SAU8mD4uwM <--- this guy is darker than heathers & domare.. and his accepted us ''adopted one of us'' already..

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.qJJpai8lAkof64pIKF5PYADrCi&pid=15.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYb7rL_Wuv8 <-- this Jamaican dude is mega icon in the 70's 80's... his accepted as well. we just call them blackapino

[Heather Duval]

It doesn't eliminate racism because Blacks are living in a White majority society, thus it is politically and militarily dominated by them. Whites can do harm to Blacks on a massive level, the opposite isn't possible. But having a media outlet that is owned by Blacks is clearly more positive than having nothing. It means they can discuss Black topics openly without being censored by Whites or Jews. But anyway, BET was sold to non-Blacks, so Aframs have no media of their own anymore.

Aframs are already segregated and nothing changed in a good way.

[Black Panther]

Aframs are already segregated and nothing changed in a good way.

That's because Black Americans have abandoned the concept of ethnic businesses. Of course other communities will give jobs to their own before they give it to Blacks. Aframs need to wake up. They're more advanced than Afro-Brazilians in terms of racial consciousness, but they have made a lot of mistakes, unfortunately.

[zhaoyun]

That's because Black Americans have abandoned the concept of ethnic businesses. Of course other communities will give jobs to their own before they give it to Blacks. Aframs need to wake up. They're more advanced than Afro-Brazilians in terms of racial consciousness, but they have made a lot of mistakes, unfortunately.

Well, it's going to be extremely difficult to reverse those trends. Culturally, most Aframs just lack the work ethic, business savvy and discipline that other groups have which are necessary to succeed. Even if you have all of that, plus capital, there is no guarantee of success. Most Aframs are greatly lacking in all of those qualities, not only that, their mindset and focus is not even remotely close to what it takes, so I don't see this scenario improving any time soon unfortunately.

[Black Panther]

Well, it's going to be extremely difficult to reverse those trends. Culturally, most Aframs just lack the work ethic, business savvy and discipline that other groups have which are necessary to succeed. Even if you have all of that, plus capital, there is no guarantee of success. Most Aframs are greatly lacking in all of those qualities, not only that, their mindset and focus is not even remotely close to what it takes, so I don't see this scenario improving any time soon unfortunately.

I know. It would take at least 2 generations for Black Americans to just start reversing those trends. Well, perhaps the African immigrants can serve as a wake-up call for Aframs which could help speed up the recovery process, but it will take a long time regardless.

[Heather Duval]

That's because Black Americans have abandoned the concept of ethnic businesses. Of course other communities will give jobs to their own before they give it to Blacks. Aframs need to wake up. They're more advanced than Afro-Brazilians in terms of racial consciousness, but they have made a lot of mistakes, unfortunately.

Afro Brazilians has even mixedprivileges for not looking black enough like Aframs are.

[Black Panther]

Afro Brazilians has even mixedprivileges for not looking black enough like Aframs are.

No, they don't. African Americans are more respected as a people than Afro-Brazilians.

[zhaoyun]

I know. It would take at least 2 generations for Black Americans to just start reversing those trends. Well, perhaps the African immigrants can serve as a wake-up call for Aframs which could help speed up the recovery process, but it will take a long time regardless.

I could see African immigrants running businesses successfully at a large scale, but honestly, they are a completely different people from Aframs and the two just do not mix for the most part, completely different values and cultures.

[Heather Duval]

No, they don't. African Americans are more respected as a people than Afro-Brazilians.

Aframs are more respected than many people here in Latin America due to the fact they are from US. My aunt is Afram and everyone here thinks hes a fine gringo.
And everyone knows that he is gringo because he is extremely darker than average blacks here, while blacks in Brazil are consistently called mulattos. You dont it because you dont live here and never had any experience in our society, the closer you get to Brazil is reading activits blogs.

[Black Panther]

I could see African immigrants running businesses successfully at a large scale, but honestly, they are a completely different people from Aframs and the two just do not mix for the most part, completely different values and cultures.

But they are still the same race. And I don't mean African immigrants have to (or will) go out there and teach Aframs how to run their lives as if they were little children to be guided. Either Aframs learn how to guide themselves again or they remain in the same state, that's it. What I believe is positive about African immigrants is that Aframs will observe their way of operating in society to an extent that would never happen by observing more successful non-Black groups.

[zhaoyun]

But they are still the same race. And I don't mean African immigrants have to (or will) go out there and teach Aframs how to run their lives as if they were little children to be guided. Either Aframs learn how to guide themselves again or they remain in the same state, that's it. What I believe is positive about African immigrants is that Aframs will observe their way of operating in society to an extent that would never happen by observing more successful non-Black groups.

I hope we can see some African countries become developed in this century. I think there will be a few that will.

[Black Panther]

Aframs are more respected than many people here in Latin America due to the fact they are from US. My aunt is Afram and everyone here thinks hes a fine gringo.
And everyone knows that he is gringo because he is extremely darker than average blacks here, while blacks in Brazil are consistently called mulattos. You dont it because you dont live here and never had any experience in our society, the closer you get to Brazil is reading activits blogs.

I've been to both places and read the news from both countries to know how different they are. Besides, I didn't mean international respect. I meant respect at the national level. Aframs are not as disrespected by the rest of American society as Afro-Brazilians are. I've heard non-Black Brazilians say disgusting things about Blacks quite openly when I lived there and even here.

[Black Panther]

I hope we can see some African countries become developed in this century. I think there will be a few that will.

I think Nigeria might become wealthier than South Africa in the next few decades. That in itself would already be a great step forward because a lot of people think Nigeria is poorer than South Africa because it is an all Black country. Nigeria is growing faster than South Africa, so it wouldn't be a surprise to see them with a higher GDP per capita in the future.

[zhaoyun]

I think Nigeria might become wealthier than South Africa in the next few decades. That in itself would already be a great step forward because a lot of people think Nigeria is poorer than South Africa because it is an all Black country. Nigeria is growing faster than South Africa, so it wouldn't be a surprise to see them with a higher GDP per capita in the future.

Nigerians are actually very aggressive in business, so I can see them expanding on that front. Not sure if they can translate that into building first world infrastructure for their society as a whole though.

I think Ethiopia and Rwanda are strong candidates however.

[Heather Duval]

I've been to both places and read the news from both countries to know how different they are. Besides, I didn't mean international respect. I meant respect at the national level. Aframs are not as disrespected by the rest of American society as Afro-Brazilians are. I've heard non-Black Brazilians say disgusting things about Blacks quite openly when I lived there and even here.

You just hear what you're looking for. Token user lived his entire life in a German colony in southern Brazil and never heard any kind of racist commentary against blacks there, that was he told me and can confirm you this. You trying to make Brazil a racist country is the most ridiculous and delirious thing ever.
There is racism in any country in fact, but it has never been compared to the things that blacks lived in the United States, Jim Crow is one of the saddest things of humanity history. And if blacks get disrespected in the US nothing can happen, because there is no law that protects them, so they will at most spank whites. Just like that black who was called a nigger at an American school, he spanked that boy.

[Black Panther]

Nigerians are actually very aggressive in business, so I can see them expanding on that front. Not sure if they can translate that into building first world infrastructure for their society as a whole though.

I think Ethiopia and Rwanda are strong candidates however.

Nigeria is still too religious as a whole and somewhat divided ethnically and religiously. Those are two big negative aspects with the country. But I think they could pull Latin American levels of development not too long from now. First world standards will take a longer time though.

[Black Panther]

You just hear what you're looking for. Token user lived his entire life in a German colony in southern Brazil and never heard any kind of racist commentary against blacks there, that was he told me and can confirm you this. You trying to make Brazil a racist country is the most ridiculous and delirious thing ever.
There is racism in any country in fact, but it has never been compared to the things that blacks lived in the United States, Jim Crow is one of the saddest things of humanity history. And if blacks get disrespected in the US nothing can happen, because there is no law that protects them, so they will at most spank whites. Just like that black who was called a nigger at an American school, he spanked that boy.

Again. Actions speak louder than words. I don't care if people seem less racist in Brazil (which they honestly don't). Just turn on the TV there, watch politicians speaking or go to any major company there. Count the number of Blacks there...

[Heather Duval]

Again. Actions speak louder than words. I don't care if people seem less racist in Brazil (which they honestly don't). Just turn on the TV there, watch politicians speaking or go to any major company there. Count the number of Blacks there...

And does blacks wants to be politician? Most here wants to be a football player or a singer, and most are. I live in Brazil and never suffered racism, and no friend of mine suffered. You waste your time reading isolated news and activism blogs, this does not define reality. If black Americans suffer racism nothing will happen to them, meanwhile I can report people to police based on our laws. Go read the fucking US history before you want to compare it to a mixed country like Brazil that has never had Jim Crow laws and KKK.

[Heather Duval]

I bet my ass Rosa Parks would rather to live in Brazil than in USA during Jim Crows laws
https://p2.trrsf.com/image/fget/cf/460/0/images.terra.com/2013/12/01/rosa-parks-martin-luther-king-wikimedia.tiff
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Rosa_Parks_Bus.jpg

"Bus only for whites" lol

[Black Panther]

And does blacks wants to be politician? Most here wants to be a football player or a singer, and most are. I live in Brazil and never suffered racism, and no friend of mine suffered. You waste your time reading isolated news and activism blogs, this does not define reality. If black Americans suffer racism nothing will happen to them, meanwhile I can report people to police based on our laws. Go read the fucking US history before you want to compare it to a mixed country like Brazil that has never had Jim Crow laws and KKK.

I am not trying to paint US as a paradise or Brazil as the opposite. But when talking about how things are today, Brazil fares worse than America in its treatment of people of color. Anyway, I think this subject is becoming tedious and repetitive and I have to take a pause, lol.

[Heather Duval]

I am not trying to paint US as a paradise or Brazil as the opposite. But when talking about how things are today, Brazil fares worse than America in its treatment of people of color. Anyway, I think this subject is becoming tedious and repetitive and I have to take a pause, lol.

No, not even today. A black, an Indigenous, or a mixed people may be subject to prejudice for different reasons. A Negro can be this victim simply because he is black. It would be a matter of recognizing that he belongs to an inferior race. It is racism that has no way out. When in the United States blacks could not ride a bus alongside whites or use the same toilet, the discrimination was about RACE. It was as if they were letting the pigs into the house.

When in Brazil the police in the street catch a robbery and a black man and a white man run away, he is more likely to try to stop the negro, who for the policeman is more likely to be a bad guy. In this case, racism is not necessarily racial. The general notion is that blacks study less, know less, are poorer, and therefore are more inclined to crime. It's social racism.

Does this mean that racism in Brazil is less serious? No. The fact that it is a social racism is monstrous and must be fought with the same force as Martin Luther King condemned the racism of segregation in the United States. On the good side, if it is possible to use this adjective in such a terribly inhuman affair, is that because it is a much more social racism, it is easier to combat it through a cultural and political campaign.

[StonyArabia]

From what I know it's rather the mixed Nordestinos that face most racism in Brazil, they usually have a "Mestizo" look.

[Black Panther]

From what I know it's rather the mixed Nordestinos that face most racism in Brazil, they usually have a "Mestizo" look.

They suffer mostly because of how they speak. Mestizos are discriminated in Brazil too though. And most Northeasterners are triracials or mulattoes. It's a minority that actually looks mestizo. Mestizos are more common in the Amazon.

[Lurker]

getting a plastic surery will make us that think that he is a ''FREAK''..

he doesn't need surgery to be accepted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SAU8mD4uwM <--- this guy is darker than heathers & domare.. and his accepted us ''adopted one of us'' already..

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.qJJpai8lAkof64pIKF5PYADrCi&pid=15.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYb7rL_Wuv8 <-- this Jamaican dude is mega icon in the 70's 80's... his accepted as well. we just call them blackapino

Lol, blackapino. I like that term.

[Lurker]

Actually FME all types of Latinos from White to Amerindian to Black seem to think it's ok to make fun of Asians. Of course, it's not something I particularly care about as they usually don't have any power over Asians, but it's something I've noticed.


I'd say it's mostly Whites, at least in Brazil. Blacks and Pardos might feel like it's wrong making fun of others because they are constantly made fun of themselves. Whites feel too comfortable in that country to say whatever they want. But perhaps it might be a bit different in other Latin American countries.

Don't know about other countries, but in Brazil there's this mentality of free-for-all or anything goes regarding making fun of other people. And this is expected from all races. So what is expected is for people to take those jokes in stride and give back as good as they get. Kind of reminds me of the scene of that movie Gran Torino, in which Clint Eastwood is teaching the young Asian boy how to behave in the barbershop he goes to. Clint and the barber trade insults a lot, calling each other ethnic names (polack, italian, etc). That's how Brazilians view these iterations. There are words for all kinds of stuff if you deviate from the "norm", and this includes words for people who are blonde (galego, alemão), pale (branco azedo), too thin, too fat and any race. It depends on tone, but most of the time people are still supposed to be friendly to each other after the name calling and act like nothing happened.

Then again, this was in Sao Paulo, where everyone knows an Asian. In other places where Asians are rare maybe the attitude is kind of similar to how rural Chinese or Japanese view white and black people, as exotic people and they think it's OK to point at them (this happened to an East Asian acquaintance of mine in Northeastern Brazil decades ago, and also to blonde Brazilian friends of mine when they visited Beijing in 2008 during the Olympics. I think the Chinese who asked to take pictures with them had never seem a blonde person before in their lives).

Oh yeah, and don't have hopes for any kind of "racial solidarity" in Brazil. I doubt it exists anywhere besides the minds of liberal people in US college (people of color, gays, women and other minorities united against the evil white men who dominates the world). I sontrgly suspect it doesn't exist in the US as well.

[Heather Duval]

From what I know it's rather the mixed Nordestinos that face most racism in Brazil, they usually have a "Mestizo" look.

Most people here makes fun of their accent etc it doesnt matter their race or ethniicty
racism in brazil is social, not really due to race like it was in segregation America during Jim Crows. As i already explained here

No, not even today. A black, an Indigenous, or a mixed people may be subject to prejudice for different reasons. A Negro can be this victim simply because he is black. It would be a matter of recognizing that he belongs to an inferior race. It is racism that has no way out. When in the United States blacks could not ride a bus alongside whites or use the same toilet, the discrimination was about RACE. It was as if they were letting the pigs into the house.

When in Brazil the police in the street catch a robbery and a black man and a white man run away, he is more likely to try to stop the negro, who for the policeman is more likely to be a bad guy. In this case, racism is not necessarily racial. The general notion is that blacks study less, know less, are poorer, and therefore are more inclined to crime. It's social racism.

Does this mean that racism in Brazil is less serious? No. The fact that it is a social racism is monstrous and must be fought with the same force as Martin Luther King condemned the racism of segregation in the United States. On the good side, if it is possible to use this adjective in such a terribly inhuman affair, is that because it is a much more social racism, it is easier to combat it through a cultural and political campaign.

Also, people dont make fun in their face because discrimination/racism/xeno is illegai by our laws. In my family we make jokes sometimes about nordestinos accent but we are afraid to say it in public. I have family members that also makes fun about dark skinned blacks, yes, colorism is real here.

[Ashlyn]

he hasn't done anything wrong that will deserve hate... his not rapist or anything like that..

No, he hasn't. But that doesn't mean he won't be treated as if he is or has done something wrong by others in America, Europe and some Asiatic countries because he's an "oddity". Personally despite saying he's a glitch - more on his take of being Filipino than anything else - I couldn't careless what or who he is, how he identifies himself, etc.




majority will not bash him... even if he acts like alien, clueless..

No they wouldn't bash him. Not to the degree he has likely experienced among his fellow Europeans. Filipinos are very adaptable. Either where they have to live (foreign countries) or in their hospitality regarding what "clowns**" come visiting. I've spent some time there with friends who invited me to come see their home.

He would confuse some of them, however, and you can't deny that. Even if only for a few months - or years. And he would be in for some cultural shock. That, to me, would be his biggest difficulty (aside from religious). He thinks he knows Filipino culture but there's a difference between knowing a culture & liking a culture.


**I have spent many years in East Asia. Relatives are born there (Japan, China). I know (and partake in practices while there or with friends here) a lot about the culture, language, religion, beliefs, etc. of my favoured country. That country is my home & I plan to retire there in due time. In many ways, nowadays I am after all more at home among East Asians than I am among Europeans & I confuse the heck out of people particularly when "fresh off the boat" [/ first few years fresh back in Europe/Canada as I get reused to European culture it's less obvious] because they expect a fellow European in mannerism, personality, etc. & not someone who is more "Asiatic" than some of the 2nd-3rd generationals around. I'm not calling myself transracial anything regardless.



and for the record where already getting used to it... there are Indians & non-Asian races in Philippines that speak better tagalog than I DO, who has Philippine passport and members of the government officials.

I know foreigners who speak "better" English than me because they are taught RP [/school/proper] English from the start. With your foreigners in the Philippines they are likely taught the "school/proper" version & motivated to learn. Does he have that motivation?

I said before, and will say again, the concept of being Filipino is fine while living in Florida. He is surrounded by a language he speaks, by people who are similar to him, by a culture he knows, etc. On that note, if he did move where do you think he'd do better? In a city like Manila or a more remote/rural place like Lagawe?

[Black Panther]

Don't know about other countries, but in Brazil there's this mentality of free-for-all or anything goes regarding making fun of other people. And this is expected from all races. So what is expected is for people to take those jokes in stride and give back as good as they get. Kind of reminds me of the scene of that movie Gran Torino, in which Clint Eastwood is teaching the young Asian boy how to behave in the barbershop he goes to. Clint and the barber trade insults a lot, calling each other ethnic names (polack, italian, etc). That's how Brazilians view these iterations. There are words for all kinds of stuff if you deviate from the "norm", and this includes words for people who are blonde (galego, alemão), pale (branco azedo), too thin, too fat and any race. It depends on tone, but most of the time people are still supposed to be friendly to each other after the name calling and act like nothing happened.

Then again, this was in Sao Paulo, where everyone knows an Asian. In other places where Asians are rare maybe the attitude is kind of similar to how rural Chinese or Japanese view white and black people, as exotic people and they think it's OK to point at them (this happened to an East Asian acquaintance of mine in Northeastern Brazil decades ago, and also to blonde Brazilian friends of mine when they visited Beijing in 2008 during the Olympics. I think the Chinese who asked to take pictures with them had never seem a blonde person before in their lives).

Oh yeah, and don't have hopes for any kind of "racial solidarity" in Brazil. I doubt it exists anywhere besides the minds of liberal people in US college (people of color, gays, women and other minorities united against the evil white men who dominates the world). I sontrgly suspect it doesn't exist in the US as well.

http://www.otempo.com.br/polopoly_fs/1.905435.1409011802!image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/main-single-horizontal-img-article-fit_620/image.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhNYxzQn_XU

And btw, I have hopes for myself, first and foremost. I can't do much to save others like me. Maybe the White Brazilian elite will be successful in killing off Blacks/Pardos at the end of the day, but that's not something I can do much about. I think my duty is to say the truth whenever it is possible and network with like-minded people to try to come up with solutions to the problems we face. Whatever the future may hold, at least I won't feel guilty about doing nothing.

[Heather Duval]

http://www.otempo.com.br/polopoly_fs/1.905435.1409011802!image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/main-single-horizontal-img-article-fit_620/image.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhNYxzQn_XU

And btw, I have hopes for myself, first and foremost. I can't do much to save others like me. Maybe the White Brazilian elite will be successful in killing off Blacks/Pardos at the end of the day, but that's not something I can do much about. I think my duty is to say the truth whenever it is possible and network with like-minded people to try to come up with solutions to the problems we face. Whatever the future may hold, at least I won't feel guilty about doing nothing.

These people only attacks in the internet bevause they are afraid of the laws. Also theres no such thing as killing pardos and whites here, i live in Brazil and we dont care about races to make such wars. Also whites are a minority group here, youre actong like youre in a novela Mexicana or in an American movie.

[Black Panther]

These people only attacks in the internet bevause they are afraid of the laws. Also theres no such thing as killing pardos and whites here, i live in Brazil and we dont care about races to make such wars. Also whites are a minority group here, youre actong like youre in a novela Mexicana or in an American movie.

It has been documented that the Brazilian elite wanted to exterminate Blacks and Amerindians by mixing and marginalizing them out of existence.

[Tooting Carmen]

MPs from Sao Paulo and Rio. Disproportionately White, but by no means entirely so: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?132733-MPs-from-Sao-Paulo-versus-MPs-from-Rio-de-Janeiro-compare-and-contrast

[Ashlyn]

These people only attacks in the internet bevause they are afraid of the laws. Also theres no such thing as killing pardos and whites here, i live in Brazil and we dont care about races to make such wars. Also whites are a minority group here, youre actong like youre in a novela Mexicana or in an American movie.

Yet racism is no secret:

http://org.elon.edu/brazilmagazine/2005/article10.htm

https://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/08/28/in-brazils-job-market-blacks-and-women-experience-longer-periods-of-unemployment/

http://minorityrights.org/minorities/afro-brazilians/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-rio-olympics-brazil-myths-20160815-story.html

Shall I continue with the above?


By the way, ever heard of the Figueiredo Report? It recounts how the Brazilian government "handled" Amerindians. That was purposeful cultural genocide (7,000 pages worth) regardless of how Brazilians may view it nowadays. I suggest you google it & see if you can stomach it. Some of the recountings well you'd think the "superior" people responsible were animals rather than human beings.

[Black Panther]

Yet racism is no secret:

http://org.elon.edu/brazilmagazine/2005/article10.htm

https://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/08/28/in-brazils-job-market-blacks-and-women-experience-longer-periods-of-unemployment/

http://minorityrights.org/minorities/afro-brazilians/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-rio-olympics-brazil-myths-20160815-story.html

Shall I continue with the above?


By the way, ever heard of the Figueiredo Report? It recounts how the Brazilian government "handled" Amerindians. That was purposeful cultural genocide (7,000 pages worth) regardless of how Brazilians may view it nowadays. I suggest you google it & see if you can stomach it. Some of the recountings well you'd think the "superior" people responsible were animals rather than human beings.

They killed Amerindians, while Blacks were marginalized and expected to mix themselves out of existence. During many periods, Brazil was worse than the Third Reich.

[Ashlyn]

During many periods, Brazil was worse than the Third Reich.

In many ways yes Brazil was. The general world doesn't really know because it didn't concern them.

And I am not sure how the educational system works in Brazil. But if they "white wash" this history of genocide & other such events, as they do in other countries [e.g. aboriginals in Canada are given a basic summary in most history lessons & not much about the colonial], so that it becomes less & less known with every decade passed that wouldn't be a surprise.

And I would not be surprised if some Brazilians living in their ivory towers ignore there's anything wrong because it doesn't concern them. They are fine, okay, protected, etc. by association of their race or skin color.

[Black Panther]

In many ways yes Brazil was. The general world doesn't really know because it didn't concern them.

And I am not sure how the educational system works in Brazil. But if they "white wash" this history of genocide & other such events, as they do in other countries [e.g. aboriginals in Canada are given a basic summary in most history lessons & not much about the colonial], so that it becomes less & less known with every decade passed that wouldn't be a surprise.

And I would not be surprised if some Brazilians living in their ivory towers ignore there's anything wrong because it doesn't concern them. They are fine, okay, protected, etc. by association of their race or skin color.

The education system completely ignores this History, which is not surprising. Most people in Brazil are still mixed race or Black, so I don't think they want us to know what happened to our ancestors. They want us to believe that our misery is our own fault or just a Historical accident with little to no explanation. Thankfully, the Black movements are starting to talk about those Historical periods of genocide through the lens of the victims.

[1R0N M4N XL]

No, he hasn't. But that doesn't mean he won't be treated as if he is or has done something wrong by others in America, Europe and some Asiatic countries because he's an "oddity". Personally despite saying he's a glitch - more on his take of being Filipino than anything else - I couldn't careless what or who he is, how he identifies himself, etc.





No they wouldn't bash him. Not to the degree he has likely experienced among his fellow Europeans. Filipinos are very adaptable. Either where they have to live (foreign countries) or in their hospitality regarding what "clowns**" come visiting. I've spent some time there with friends who invited me to come see their home.

He would confuse some of them, however, and you can't deny that. Even if only for a few months - or years. And he would be in for some cultural shock. That, to me, would be his biggest difficulty (aside from religious). He thinks he knows Filipino culture but there's a difference between knowing a culture & liking a culture.


**I have spent many years in East Asia. Relatives are born there (Japan, China). I know (and partake in practices while there or with friends here) a lot about the culture, language, religion, beliefs, etc. of my favoured country. That country is my home & I plan to retire there in due time. In many ways, nowadays I am after all more at home among East Asians than I am among Europeans & I confuse the heck out of people particularly when "fresh off the boat" [/ first few years fresh back in Europe/Canada as I get reused to European culture it's less obvious] because they expect a fellow European in mannerism, personality, etc. & not someone who is more "Asiatic" than some of the 2nd-3rd generationals around. I'm not calling myself transracial anything regardless.



I know foreigners who speak "better" English than me because they are taught RP [/school/proper] English from the start. With your foreigners in the Philippines they are likely taught the "school/proper" version & motivated to learn. Does he have that motivation?

I said before, and will say again, the concept of being Filipino is fine while living in Florida. He is surrounded by a language he speaks, by people who are similar to him, by a culture he knows, etc. On that note, if he did move where do you think he'd do better? In a city like Manila or a more remote/rural place like Lagawe?

he doesn't speak tagalog... they will know his a foreigner.. ofcourse. he will most likely Fit in manila/Makati because there's a lot of foreigners there.. his most likely get harass for being transsexual than anything most likely from teenage bullies... but his not going in elementary or high school student, so it should be no problem. ( that's what I mean by culture shock)

East Asia is different from south east asia... Thailand, Philippines, Singapore is more open... in east asia.. If non-Japanese wears Kimono... you will get backlash.. but in Philippines most of the people will feel flattered :) and take its a compliment.

his not the only foreigner, a lot of foreigner aren't complaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D5LXYsFQJs

[Heather Duval]

It has been documented that the Brazilian elite wanted to exterminate Blacks and Amerindians by mixing and marginalizing them out of existence.

In THE PAST Brazilian government tried to make the population whiter with new immigrants(Italians and Germans) because they thought they would mix with peole here and later no black would exist anymore due to mixing race. It has nothing to do with elites lol Youre talking in a general way. Also am I privileged? Because im black and i have black friends and we live in a neightborhood and city with many types of ethnicity but neverr heard any kind of racism here. Most people i know are even afraid to say racist words to poc people because racial injury is ilegal by law. Maybe those activits you often read wasnt brave enough to shut the fuck up and call the police. Youre playing a victim many times, go to the real world and see by your eyes how things works. No one here care about races, you often see Brazilians having fun in the beach with no racial segragated your idol Malcom x suffered in US. Also u only have recent Euro ancestry because your mother is afro Brazilian, no recent Europeam would fuck a Afram woman, most of their ancestry from Europe is distant and from.colonial rapits. Bi racials are often seen as something special there.

[Heather Duval]

Yet racism is no secret:

http://org.elon.edu/brazilmagazine/2005/article10.htm

https://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/08/28/in-brazils-job-market-blacks-and-women-experience-longer-periods-of-unemployment/

http://minorityrights.org/minorities/afro-brazilians/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-rio-olympics-brazil-myths-20160815-story.html

Shall I continue with the above?


By the way, ever heard of the Figueiredo Report? It recounts how the Brazilian government "handled" Amerindians. That was purposeful cultural genocide (7,000 pages worth) regardless of how Brazilians may view it nowadays. I suggest you google it & see if you can stomach it. Some of the recountings well you'd think the "superior" people responsible were animals rather than human beings.

Racism exist in any country. The difference is that we have laws for it
Racism is ilegal here, many people got arrested for it but youre convenient so u dont google about it.

[Lurker]

http://www.otempo.com.br/polopoly_fs/1.905435.1409011802!image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/main-single-horizontal-img-article-fit_620/image.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhNYxzQn_XU

And btw, I have hopes for myself, first and foremost. I can't do much to save others like me. Maybe the White Brazilian elite will be successful in killing off Blacks/Pardos at the end of the day, but that's not something I can do much about. I think my duty is to say the truth whenever it is possible and network with like-minded people to try to come up with solutions to the problems we face. Whatever the future may hold, at least I won't feel guilty about doing nothing.


It has been documented that the Brazilian elite wanted to exterminate Blacks and Amerindians by mixing and marginalizing them out of existence.


Yet racism is no secret:

http://org.elon.edu/brazilmagazine/2005/article10.htm

https://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/08/28/in-brazils-job-market-blacks-and-women-experience-longer-periods-of-unemployment/

http://minorityrights.org/minorities/afro-brazilians/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-rio-olympics-brazil-myths-20160815-story.html

Shall I continue with the above?


By the way, ever heard of the Figueiredo Report? It recounts how the Brazilian government "handled" Amerindians. That was purposeful cultural genocide (7,000 pages worth) regardless of how Brazilians may view it nowadays. I suggest you google it & see if you can stomach it. Some of the recountings well you'd think the "superior" people responsible were animals rather than human beings.


They killed Amerindians, while Blacks were marginalized and expected to mix themselves out of existence. During many periods, Brazil was worse than the Third Reich.


In many ways yes Brazil was. The general world doesn't really know because it didn't concern them.

And I am not sure how the educational system works in Brazil. But if they "white wash" this history of genocide & other such events, as they do in other countries [e.g. aboriginals in Canada are given a basic summary in most history lessons & not much about the colonial], so that it becomes less & less known with every decade passed that wouldn't be a surprise.

And I would not be surprised if some Brazilians living in their ivory towers ignore there's anything wrong because it doesn't concern them. They are fine, okay, protected, etc. by association of their race or skin color.


The education system completely ignores this History, which is not surprising. Most people in Brazil are still mixed race or Black, so I don't think they want us to know what happened to our ancestors. They want us to believe that our misery is our own fault or just a Historical accident with little to no explanation. Thankfully, the Black movements are starting to talk about those Historical periods of genocide through the lens of the victims.

Brazil worse than the Third Reich? I'll admit that Brazil has racism problems, but this goes too far.

The "whitening" plan was something that happened between 1870 and 1930, and it was already weakening by 1908 when Japanese immigration starts. To say that Brazilian elites still want this today is like saying that Germans want to exterminate all Jews and Americans to re-enslave the Blacks. Maybe you believe this is true, but I'll say that this is dissociated from reality. The plan has repercussions today, but since Brazil is a very big country we can see that even in the parts of the country where it wasn't implemented at all (where immigration was almost nil) things didn't differ much for blacks. Actually the quality of life for blacks there is worse than in places where more immigration happened (probably because immigration helps the economy grow). Rio Grande do Sul, for example, a state with heavy German and Italian immigration, constantly re-elects a black Senator who advocates civil rights for blacks (Paulo Paim), something the blacker and more mixed-race states, like Bahia or Pernambuco, don't do.

The genocide against native populations encountered by European colonizers happened everywhere in the Americas and Oceania. Brazil wasn't very efficient at that "genocide". The US was much more efficient, for example, as was Canada or Australia. It's very rare to find natives living like they did in the 1500s in these countries, worshipping their gods. Heck there were natives in the state of Sao Paulo in the 1930s, something that was unthinkable in New York at the same time. It's impossible to find in those countries natives that didn't have contact with the "civilized" people. In Brazil this exists NOW, and there's a law that's very similar to the "Prime Directive" of Star Trek regarding contact with them.

If you think unscrupulous big landowners didn't exploit the hell out of natives in other countries, then I can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge very cheap. The difference in Brazil, besides race mixing being accepted from the start (lots of cases of these big landowners being mixed), was that the counciousness that this was wrong came before the genocide was complete, as it happened in anglo countries. The report you mentioned was commissioned by the Interior Department of the Brazilian government, showing how a state agency that was originally created to protect the Natives was taken over by corrupt officials that protected only the interests of the big landowners. When the agency was created (1910) it actually served the original purpose of protecting the Natives quite well (google marshall Rondon to see who created that). So this isn't the case of evil Brazilians killing everyone in sight and then the good-natured, more civilized Swedish or Americans coming and showcasing their crimes. This is Brazilians finding out that crime and corruption happened, basically something that is repeated throughout the whole history of Brazil from 1500 on.


Regarding the internet sources showcasing racism, I'll say that a big country such as Brazil is bound to have a big number of idiots. Racism exists here just like it exists eveyrwhere, and the internet showcases this more than other places. I could go to flashback.se, the swedish forum where free speech is allowed, and show people who have opinions that the Holocaust is a hoax or immigrants are all rapists that should be deported or killed. Does that mean that all Swedish think like that, or that the Swedish average person thinks like that? The same thing with the US. There was a march to "unite the right" not so long ago, with neo-nazis and all that, and the president of the USA actually defended those guys. Does that mean the US is becoming a Nazi state like the show "Man in the High Castle"? No, this just means that there are racist idiots in these countries. Just like there are everywhere.

And most Brazilians don't know much of history at all. This is an education problem. Most Brazilians are also what you'd call "functional illiterate", at least when they complete High School (if they do it). They come out of high school with terrible reading, writing, argumentative, math and science skills. History is just another subject that is very poorly taught.

[JohnSmith]

In THE PAST Brazilian government tried to make the population whiter with new immigrants(Italians and Germans) because they thought they would mix with peole here and later no black would exist anymore due to mixing race. It has nothing to do with elites lol Youre talking in a general way. Also am I privileged? Because im black and i have black friends and we live in a neightborhood and city with many types of ethnicity but neverr heard any kind of racism here. Most people i know are even afraid to say racist words to poc people because racial injury is ilegal by law. Maybe those activits you often read wasnt brave enough to shut the fuck up and call the police. Youre playing a victim many times, go to the real world and see by your eyes how things works. No one here care about races, you often see Brazilians having fun in the beach with no racial segragated your idol Malcom x suffered in US. Also u only have recent Euro ancestry because your mother is afro Brazilian, no recent Europeam would fuck a Afram woman, most of their ancestry from Europe is distant and from.colonial rapits. Bi racials are often seen as something special there.

Brazil has racial problems also. They are not immune to these issues. Plenty of White guys also get with Black girls in the USA.

[Ashlyn]

Racism exist in any country. The difference is that we have laws for it
Racism is ilegal here, many people got arrested for it but youre convenient so u dont google about it.

:picard1:

Did you even read the articles I posted, darling? If people were arrested - or there was serious punishment - for the form of racism those articles are about then what those articles talk about wouldn't exist to the degree it does. Simple social dynamics.

As for people getting arrested, you could always prove it. Or I could post things like this. Can racist police arrest themselves do you think? http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/05/justice-poor-brazil-170511102159339.html

[Ashlyn]

Brazil worse than the Third Reich? I'll admit that Brazil has racism problems, but this goes too far.

The comment was past tense, in the past. Recently not quite.


The "whitening" plan was something that happened between 1870 and 1930, and it was already weakening by 1908 when Japanese immigration starts.

ROFL. Do as I said to Heathers & look up the Figueiredo Report. That was from the 1950s to the 1960s.



To say that Brazilian elites still want this today is like saying that Germans want to exterminate all Jews and Americans to re-enslave the Blacks. Hilter & the Nazis were actually amplifying a mentality, playing on the locals discord with foreigners and others taking away what they say as "theirs", that had been in Germany long before they even came into power. As for Americans & black slaves, there's actually forums & blogs dedicated to the folly of even having slaves from the first day of the Americas.



The genocide against native populations encountered by European colonizers happened everywhere in the Americas and Oceania. Brazil wasn't very efficient at that "genocide". The US was much more efficient, for example, as was Canada or Australia. It's very rare to find natives living like they did in the 1500s in these countries, worshipping their gods. Heck there were natives in the state of Sao Paulo in the 1930s, something that was unthinkable in New York at the same time. It's impossible to find in those countries natives that didn't have contact with the "civilized" people. In Brazil this exists NOW, and there's a law that's very similar to the "Prime Directive" of Star Trek regarding contact with them.

Yet the Figueiredo Report still spans 7,000 pages of Brazilian government approved genocide.



Regarding the internet sources showcasing racism, I'll say that a big country such as Brazil is bound to have a big number of idiots. Racism exists here just like it exists eveyrwhere, and the internet showcases this more than other places. I could go to flashback.se, the swedish forum where free speech is allowed, and show people who have opinions that the Holocaust is a hoax or immigrants are all rapists that should be deported or killed. Does that mean that all Swedish think like that, or that the Swedish average person thinks like that? The same thing with the US. There was a march to "unite the right" not so long ago, with neo-nazis and all that, and the president of the USA actually defended those guys. Does that mean the US is becoming a Nazi state like the show "Man in the High Castle"? No, this just means that there are racist idiots in these countries. Just like there are everywhere.

And most Brazilians don't know much of history at all. This is an education problem. Most Brazilians are also what you'd call "functional illiterate", at least when they complete High School (if they do it). They come out of high school with terrible reading, writing, argumentative, math and science skills. History is just another subject that is very poorly taught.

Read the links I posted to Heathers. What's your definition of "big number of idiots"?

And just because a person is illiterate that doesn't mean they aren't subject to racism nor does that keep stories of what their grandparents or great-grandparents from being passed down through the generations as verbal history. Or do you think Brazil is the only country where the working & poor class are widely illiterate?

[Ashlyn]

he doesn't speak tagalog... they will know his a foreigner.. ofcourse. he will most likely Fit in manila/Makati because there's a lot of foreigners there.. his most likely get harass for being transsexual than anything most likely from teenage bullies... but his not going in elementary or high school student, so it should be no problem. ( that's what I mean by culture shock)

East Asia is different from south east asia... Thailand, Philippines, Singapore is more open... in east asia.. If non-Japanese wears Kimono... you will get backlash.. but in Philippines most of the people will feel flattered :) and take its a compliment.

his not the only foreigner, a lot of foreigner aren't complaining.


True to all. So maybe I shouldn't comment when on little sleep? lol.

I enjoy it (love it actually) but East Asia is indeed different. Though at times far more subtle than some would expect - Chinese gentleman once smiled at my colleague, given the conversation I never told her it wasn't in humor. As said been to the Philippines, actually am working with a company that is 90% Filipino. More enjoyable than the last company with 95% Europeans.

Ah... The transsexual would be a big issue. He's likely being bullied anyways so even teenagers wouldn't be too much. You know you can sort of understand the reason why he thinks he's really Filipino. I just think this is his fifteen minutes of fame, however, and he will eventually tire of it. Or never go beyond trekking around Florida in his little auto rickshaw.

[Mingle]

Mulher é presa suspeita de injúria racial em supermercado do Rio
Ela teria dito a gerente de loja no Leblon: 'Volta para sua senzala'.
Suspeita será levada para Bangu neste domingo.

Woman arrested for suspected racial slurs in supermarket in Rio
She is a store manager at Leblon: 'Go back to your shantytown'.
Suspect will be taken to Bangu on Sunday.
http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/05/mulher-e-presa-suspeita-de-racismo-em-supermercado-na-zona-sul-do-rio.html

Yes, people here indeed goes to jail. Only racial injury is fundable, not racism. I think you're complex and afraid to report them. I would have no problem suing someone for racial injury. I would prob make money on that. Youre also wasting many times being osbsed with races, I never heard any black friend of mine being victim of racism here, quite the opossite. Many of them insits if it happen they will report them by police and get some money for racial injury.

How are you supposed to prove someone said something racist to you? What if you get into a bad argument with someone and then lie that they were racist? Can you get money for that?

Also, over here people that say racist stuff or do racist stuff that doesn't result in physical harm don't just get away scot-free:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/woman-who-used-n-word-acquitted-of-hate-crime-but-gets-90-days-in-jail/

shorenewsnetwork.com/ocean-county-news-community/mayor-swastika-in-jackson-park-to-be-treated-as-hate-crime/

[Mortimer]

thats normal to me and i wouldnt call him transracial but transcultural. because he doesnt try to change his physical appearance with surgery. he is aware he is a white man, but likes so much philipino culture. im transcultural in many ways, because im a world citizen, from native american music to japanese zen music i can enjoy and feel at home.

[Heather Duval]

:picard1:

Did you even read the articles I posted, darling? If people were arrested - or there was serious punishment - for the form of racism those articles are about then what those articles talk about wouldn't exist to the degree it does. Simple social dynamics.

As for people getting arrested, you could always prove it. Or I could post things like this. Can racist police arrest themselves do you think? http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/05/justice-poor-brazil-170511102159339.html

recently showed on tv many racist police lost their job
it only happen with polices if the victims can prove it
normal people here gets easily arrested for racial injury
and everyone knows that in Brazil, the police have better treatments and also the rich people, because we are a corrupt country
but normal people get arrested for anything racist they say in real life, the laws are valid. So many racists use the internet as a way to escape

"The Brazilian Bar Association in Minas Gerais (OAB) said on Saturday (5) that the man imprisoned at the Belo Horizonte International Airport in Confins on suspicion of racial injury is not a lawyer. According to the Order, he has already had an enrollment as an intern, but has no definitive record.

This Friday (4), he was denounced by an attendant of an airline for racism after handing her a banana. The commander of the flight was warned and requested the removal of the passenger, who was arrested by the Federal Police. He denied that he committed a crime of racism.
https://g1.globo.com/minas-gerais/noticia/homem-preso-em-confins-por-suspeita-de-racismo-nao-e-advogado-diz-oab.ghtml"

The retired Davina Castelli, 72, was sentenced on Wednesday to four years in prison in a semi-open regime for dumping this series of racial injuries on three blacks who were in the Top Center, a mall of av. Paulista, in November of 2012.
https://dellacellasouzaadvogados.jusbrasil.com.br/noticias/113683946/aposentada-e-condenada-a-quatro-anos-de-prisao-por-racismo

And on TV we have many comercials and stuff encouraging people to denounce racism and racial injurybecause it is a crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywTyIv8XcnI

[Heather Duval]

How are you supposed to prove someone said something racist to you? What if you get into a bad argument with someone and then lie that they were racist? Can you get money for that?

Also, over here people that say racist stuff or do racist stuff that doesn't result in physical harm don't just get away scot-free:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/woman-who-used-n-word-acquitted-of-hate-crime-but-gets-90-days-in-jail/

shorenewsnetwork.com/ocean-county-news-community/mayor-swastika-in-jackson-park-to-be-treated-as-hate-crime/

you got to have witness to report them and you can get some money for sued them for racial injury here

[AnabolicCat]

>The state of the west
Average soy boy.

[Black Panther]

Brazil worse than the Third Reich? I'll admit that Brazil has racism problems, but this goes too far.

The "whitening" plan was something that happened between 1870 and 1930, and it was already weakening by 1908 when Japanese immigration starts. To say that Brazilian elites still want this today is like saying that Germans want to exterminate all Jews and Americans to re-enslave the Blacks. Maybe you believe this is true, but I'll say that this is dissociated from reality. The plan has repercussions today, but since Brazil is a very big country we can see that even in the parts of the country where it wasn't implemented at all (where immigration was almost nil) things didn't differ much for blacks. Actually the quality of life for blacks there is worse than in places where more immigration happened (probably because immigration helps the economy grow). Rio Grande do Sul, for example, a state with heavy German and Italian immigration, constantly re-elects a black Senator who advocates civil rights for blacks (Paulo Paim), something the blacker and more mixed-race states, like Bahia or Pernambuco, don't do.

The genocide against native populations encountered by European colonizers happened everywhere in the Americas and Oceania. Brazil wasn't very efficient at that "genocide". The US was much more efficient, for example, as was Canada or Australia. It's very rare to find natives living like they did in the 1500s in these countries, worshipping their gods. Heck there were natives in the state of Sao Paulo in the 1930s, something that was unthinkable in New York at the same time. It's impossible to find in those countries natives that didn't have contact with the "civilized" people. In Brazil this exists NOW, and there's a law that's very similar to the "Prime Directive" of Star Trek regarding contact with them.

If you think unscrupulous big landowners didn't exploit the hell out of natives in other countries, then I can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge very cheap. The difference in Brazil, besides race mixing being accepted from the start (lots of cases of these big landowners being mixed), was that the counciousness that this was wrong came before the genocide was complete, as it happened in anglo countries. The report you mentioned was commissioned by the Interior Department of the Brazilian government, showing how a state agency that was originally created to protect the Natives was taken over by corrupt officials that protected only the interests of the big landowners. When the agency was created (1910) it actually served the original purpose of protecting the Natives quite well (google marshall Rondon to see who created that). So this isn't the case of evil Brazilians killing everyone in sight and then the good-natured, more civilized Swedish or Americans coming and showcasing their crimes. This is Brazilians finding out that crime and corruption happened, basically something that is repeated throughout the whole history of Brazil from 1500 on.


Regarding the internet sources showcasing racism, I'll say that a big country such as Brazil is bound to have a big number of idiots. Racism exists here just like it exists eveyrwhere, and the internet showcases this more than other places. I could go to flashback.se, the swedish forum where free speech is allowed, and show people who have opinions that the Holocaust is a hoax or immigrants are all rapists that should be deported or killed. Does that mean that all Swedish think like that, or that the Swedish average person thinks like that? The same thing with the US. There was a march to "unite the right" not so long ago, with neo-nazis and all that, and the president of the USA actually defended those guys. Does that mean the US is becoming a Nazi state like the show "Man in the High Castle"? No, this just means that there are racist idiots in these countries. Just like there are everywhere.

And most Brazilians don't know much of history at all. This is an education problem. Most Brazilians are also what you'd call "functional illiterate", at least when they complete High School (if they do it). They come out of high school with terrible reading, writing, argumentative, math and science skills. History is just another subject that is very poorly taught.

In my opinion, external factors were the reason why the Whitening policy wasn't totally "successful" in Brazil. The great depression, followed by world war two and the consequent economic boom (and communist dictatorships) in post war Europe made emigration to Brazil less viable and interesting. If it weren't for that, Brazil would have been a White country by now and mixed people would have been totally exterminated. I have no doubts the elite would be eager to repeat this process in Brazil if there were large numbers of young poor White men in Europe.

[JohnSmith]

In my opinion, external factors were the reason why the Whitening policy wasn't totally "successful" in Brazil. The great depression, followed by world war two and the consequent economic boom (and communist dictatorships) in post war Europe made emigration to Brazil less viable and interesting. If it weren't for that, Brazil would have been a White country by now and mixed people would have been totally exterminated. I have no doubts the elite would be eager to repeat this process in Brazil if there were large numbers of young poor White men in Europe.

Do you think Brazil and the USA both have similar issues with racism?

[Black Panther]

Do you think Brazil and the USA both have similar issues with racism?

They both have issues, but they are not similar in all spheres. I think racism in Brazil is more like a game where the elite has to confuse the hell out of the minority in order to stay on top. In some countries, this happens between the rich and the poor, but in Brazil it is a social and racial issue. In America, I think there is no game to be played because Blacks are a relatively small minority there. That's why when racism was at an all time high in the US, it was far more open than in Brazil. The most interesting thing to me though is Afro-Brazilians slowly are becoming more like African Americans used to be prior to the civil rights movement and Aframs are Afro-Brazilianizing themselves by race mixing and having a strong belief in multiculturalism. Black Americans were basically seen as gypsies are seen in Europe when they became free from slavery, while in Brazil, the majority had African ancestry so mistreating Afro-Brazilians the way the KKK or ther organizations did Aframs could backfire in the future and Brazil would have become sort of like South Africa. That's why I think the basis of racism in the countries are different, if that not always seem to be the case.

[Selurong]

Wow. People these days are just getting stranger. I guess we Filipinos can accept him as one of us if he learns the language and applies for citizenship. Until then, people will just look to "her" as a delusional "transracial".

[Selurong]

Before the Spanish there was significant Arabian presence in all over Southeast Asia to, this why you have significant minority of Filipinos being Muslims, some even say the whole nation was Muslim before the Spanish enforced Catholicism by brutal force. The Arabian presence was not colonial but rather based on mutual economic trade, however many Arabians for one or another decided to remain there and today some people there have Arabian ancestry. However our influence is much stronger in Indonesia, and many Indonesians seem to have Arabian features intermixed with Asiatic of course.

The Arabs had significant influence in Southeast Asia, and were all over the Philippines, yes. However, the whole nation was not Islamic, in fact, by the time the Spanish came, there were some areas of the Philippines which were still Pagan (Either Hindu or Animist) and warred with Muslims still.

Also, Arab-Islamic colonization in the Philippines wasn't only economic it was also imperialistic. The Sultanate of Brunei in Borneo, for example, had once invaded the Kingdom of Tondo in Luzon island and supplanted it with their vassal-state, the Kingdom of Manila. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruneian_Empire) Brunei's Sultan also married Sulu's princess, Leila Mecana, to expand their territory even unto the Sulu archipelago.

There are also other examples, like, the Kedatuan of Dapitan in Bohol island which was utterly destroyed by the Papuan-speaking Sultanate of Ternate and had to re-establish their Kedatuan in Northern Mindanao, before they sided with the Spanish to attack their Muslim neighbors. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kedatuan_of_Dapitan)

The Rajahs of Cebu and Butuan also had their fair-share of slave-raiding and warfare from the Sultanate of Maguindanao. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajahnate_of_Cebu)

As you can see, the whole Philippines wasn't Muslim then, but were rapidly being islamized before the Spanish came and allied with the Non-Muslim states and Christianized the whole lot of us.

And why are you crying over the Christians attacking and converting Muslim lands when Muslims have been doing that far longer and more extensively. Muslims invaded over 2/3rds of the former Christian Roman Empire by annexing the Middle East, North Africa and Iberia, yet when Spaniards and Iberians Rechristianize Islamic Spain and Christianize Islamic Philippines, you throw a hissy fit.

The Spanish had a particular hate against the Arab-Muslims considering that their homeland was invaded by Muslims and it took 750 years of war before the last Islamic Emirate in Iberia, the Emirate of Granada, was destroyed by the expanding Christian Kingdoms, lead by the Kingdom of Castille.

[Selurong]

Double Post.

[Timawa]

I think this guy doesn't feel proud of being White. She used the transracialism to align himself with another ethnicity. It's same for Rachel Dolezal. I think it's appreciate another culture but I feel that it's not okay to transform yourself dramatically at any extremes in order to be accepted by another ethnic group.

[Black Panther]

DNA is real.

[Dirty Dingus MaGee]

I am 3/4th white and 1/4th Filipino if that counts.. :) My sisters look spanish/white and I look at least half south east asian.

[Meerkat]

That's what all this trans ideology leads to.

[CYKA]

I used to identify as white so i was transracial b4 it was a thing.

[Mortimer]

Transracial is a retarded word as if its a sickness or illness. Its perfectly normal. I have a cowboyhat a usa flag and i eat burgers am i tranracial american. Retarded bullshit the only weird thing would be if he had surgery to look philipino

[Mortimer]

Or you are transracial now that you identify as amerind. Lol seriously you are only 20% amerind and there is no objective wrong in your case only what is socially more acceptablle
I used to identify as white so i was transracial b4 it was a thing.

[Zuh]

More power to him. He will probably move there, and become a real Filipino.


Filipinos are one of the most self hate in denial People they envy us Latin Americans because we are heavily mixed with Caucasians therefore they wish they have thin long nose and Narrow faces .


Just look at their celebries tons of contour make up to make it appear more Oval face.

[Alcuin52]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJg8s8NG2KQ

If this man ever stands for high office, I shall vote for him.

Truly an inspiration to us all

:butterfly2:

[rein]

He’s trans in more than one way

[Selurong]

Filipinos are one of the most self hate in denial People they envy us Latin Americans because we are heavily mixed with Caucasians therefore they wish they have thin long nose and Narrow faces .


Just look at their celebries tons of contour make up to make it appear more Oval face.Stop stirring up hate between Filipinos and Latinos. We're supposed to be blood brothers since the Viceroyalty of New Spain included both Mexico and the Philippines as it's territory.

We really literally fought for one another. There were many Latinos from Peru and Mexico who fought in the Philippines...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_Asian

Likewise, there were many Filipinos who fought for Mexican independence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isidoro_Montes_de_Oca

So please stop the hate.


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[HoboJim]

I was on board until he pronounced it "Filipino" instead of "Bilibino". Then I knew he was a fraud.

[Larali]

I wanna be Turkish. OK I'm Turkish now. All I need is a hijab

[1R0N M4N XL]

Filipinos are one of the most self hate in denial People they envy us Latin Americans because we are heavily mixed with Caucasians therefore they wish they have thin long nose and Narrow faces .


Just look at their celebries tons of contour make up to make it appear more Oval face.

if you want to troll us/bait us... make another thread... I answered all your threads already... this thread is already old/outdated and has been derailed way-off already..

make another thread and explained your statements/ I would like to know what your seeing..

[Selurong]

if you want to troll us/bait us... make another thread... I answered all your threads already... this thread is already old/outdated and has been derailed way-off already..

make another thread and explained your statements/ I would like to know what your seeing..I don't get why he's trying to bait and troll Filipinos. Filipinos mostly respect Mexicans yet this is how one of them treats us.

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[1R0N M4N XL]

I don't get why he's trying to bait and troll Filipinos. Filipinos mostly respect Mexicans yet this is how one of them treats us.

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dont take it seriously... his just having fun..


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?250204-Whos-more-Caucasian-Mexicans-or-Indians


Let the TA world cup whiteness begin!!


lol at mexinol..

[Selurong]

dont take it seriously... his just having fun..


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?250204-Whos-more-Caucasian-Mexicans-or-Indians




lol at mexinol..Having fun at our expense...

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[Kamal900]

Very delusional I might say.

[Kamal900]

If this man ever stands for high office, I shall vote for him.

Truly an inspiration to us all

:butterfly2:

You forgot the lol part at the end of your sentence.

[arkas]

He just loves adobo, give the man a break.

[Tong]

im a transracial somali, wadeed is my brother