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randomguy1235
11-13-2017, 06:12 PM
Hello everyone! Long time no post.
@TheBedouin @McCree900 @Wadaad .... Stay mad
Here's Semitic Duwa's expert analysis on my results:
"OK so you clearly owe the vast majority of your ancestry to a Samaritan-like source.
The most convincing results come from MDLP K23b, Eurogenes K13 and PuntDNAL K13 Global. You often get fits that are invariably +80% Samaritan + North African (or Horner), while I think the North African signal is bogus it is worthy of consideration since your mtDNA haplogroup is very common in NW Africa, I'll see what happens if we use Copts to proxy that signal once you get your Global 10 results. Surprisingly, you often get high Genetic Distances (GDs) in the single population mode, this could be indicative of recent admixture or, more likely, of sampling bias.
The funny thing is that despite the North African signal, you're not particularly shifted towards Bedouins and Peninsular Arabs, you're closer to Lebanese Muslims and Christians instead, heck you're also closer to Western Jews (Ashkenazi, Italian, Sephardic, North African & Syro-Lebanese) Jews than to several Arabian populations so if this isn't bogus it has to be recent North African ancestry. One thing which could vindicate this signal is the set of fits which proxy you as 90% Palestinian Christian + Berber.
In terms of Levantine substructure, you seem to be somewhat more akin to "Israeli Arabs"/3arab 48/Filastiniyi ed Dakhel than to the Palestinian reference, more importantly "Christian_Arabs_Israel" doesn't show up in the K23b oracle, so you share drift with the Muslim community (the genetic distance is rather high though, so I wouldn't take this too seriously). You're consistently close to Samaritans as well, you even get Samaritan as your first population in MDLP K11 so I'm going to assume that you're on the less Arabian-admixed side of the spectrum (Palestinians vary wildly, some are like Saudis and Negev Bedouins, others are like Samaritans and Lebanese Christians, others still are somewhere in between, not far from Jordanians).
^^I'll test all of the above when you'll get your K7 and G10 results from Davidski. To make things short, you owe the vast majority of your ancestry (over 75%) to a Samaritan-like source (probably Jews in your case) and you might have some recent North African ancestry (but this is relatively minor)."
puntDNAL K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 36.62
2 Caucasian 26.45
3 SW_Asian 17.67
4 Horn_Of_Africa 10.62
5 NE_European 3.16
6 S_Indian 2.68
7 Wht_Nile_River 2.52
8 Siberian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritian 7.84
2 Palestinian 7.95
3 Lebanese 10.67
4 Jordanian 10.74
5 Egyptian 10.78
6 Iraqi_Jew 11.22
7 Syrian 11.98
8 Cypriot 12.08
9 Libyan 12.27
10 Druze 13.02
11 Yemenite_Jew 14.79
12 Sephardic_Jew 15.93
13 Assyrian 18.62
14 Sicilian 18.92
15 Ashkenazy_Jew 18.96
16 Turk_Kayseri 20.01
17 Bedouin_A 20.24
18 Yemenese 20.44
19 Kurdish 22.65
20 Armenian 22.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% Egyptian + 46.9% Cypriot @ 3.32
2 55.5% Cypriot + 44.5% Yemenite_Jew @ 3.85
3 66.3% Libyan + 33.7% Turk_Trabzon @ 4.18
4 50.4% Cypriot + 49.6% Libyan @ 4.23
5 90.1% Samaritian + 9.9% Somali @ 4.31
6 87.1% Samaritian + 12.9% Eritrean @ 4.43
7 88.4% Samaritian + 11.6% Afar @ 4.49
8 87.1% Samaritian + 12.9% Tygray @ 4.52
9 87.8% Samaritian + 12.2% Amhara @ 4.58
10 88.8% Samaritian + 11.2% Oromo @ 4.62
11 61.4% Libyan + 38.6% Assyrian @ 4.63
12 63.2% Libyan + 36.8% Turk_Kayseri @ 4.65
13 66.2% Libyan + 33.8% Armenian @ 4.68
14 60.8% Samaritian + 39.2% Egyptian @ 4.72
15 81.7% Cypriot + 18.3% Afar @ 5.03
16 79.7% Cypriot + 20.3% Tygray @ 5.03
17 77% Libyan + 23% Georgian @ 5.04
18 85.9% Samaritian + 14.1% Somali_Benadiri @ 5.05
19 91.5% Samaritian + 8.5% Maasai @ 5.08
20 90.3% Samaritian + 9.7% Wolayta @ 5.16
puntDNAL K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 31.84
2 West_Asia 30.09
3 SW_Asia 26.27
4 East_Africa 5.29
5 Siberia 2.35
6 NE_Europe 2.16
7 South_Asia 1.6
8 West_Africa 0.24
9 South_Africa 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanian 6.37
2 Syrian 7.31
3 Lebanese_Christian 7.48
4 Palestinian 8.26
5 Lebanese_Druze 8.28
6 Lebanese_Muslim 8.46
7 Samaritan_Jew 9.96
8 Cypriot 10.36
9 Egyptian_Copts 13.47
10 Egyptian 14.18
11 Assyrian 14.89
12 Sephardic_Jew 15.07
13 Turkish_Kayseri 15.48
14 Turkish 16.02
15 Armenian 16.36
16 Yemeni 17.14
17 Italian_Sicilian 18.4
18 Turkish_Trabzon 19.03
19 Ashkenazy_Jew 19.16
20 Azerbaijan_Azeri 19.76
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% Cypriot + 41% Egyptian @ 4.43
2 57.7% Cypriot + 42.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 4.57
3 84.3% Cypriot + 15.7% Amhara @ 4.73
4 83.8% Cypriot + 16.2% Tigray @ 4.77
5 59.4% Egyptian_Copts + 40.6% Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.87
6 82% Lebanese_Druze + 18% Saharawi @ 4.97
7 91.2% Lebanese_Christian + 8.8% Oromo @ 5.05
8 84.6% Lebanese_Christian + 15.4% Saharawi @ 5.06
9 70.7% Lebanese_Christian + 29.3% Egyptian @ 5.08
10 89.6% Lebanese_Christian + 10.4% Tigray @ 5.08
11 91.7% Lebanese_Christian + 8.3% Somali @ 5.09
12 87.1% Cypriot + 12.9% Somali @ 5.11
13 92.7% Lebanese_Christian + 7.3% Aricultivator @ 5.16
14 90.1% Lebanese_Christian + 9.9% Amhara @ 5.16
15 91.9% Lebanese_Christian + 8.1% Datog @ 5.17
16 70.7% Syrian + 29.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 5.17
17 91.6% Lebanese_Christian + 8.4% Wolayta @ 5.21
18 86.5% Cypriot + 13.5% Oromo @ 5.21
19 65.9% Lebanese_Druze + 34.1% Egyptian_Copts @ 5.22
20 54% Egyptian_Copts + 46% Turkish_Kayseri @ 5.23
MDLP K23
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.21
2 Near_East 21.87
3 North_African 13.79
4 European_Early_Farmers 12.45
5 South_Central_Asian 9.63
6 East_African 3.74
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.37
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.14
9 Subsaharian 1
10 South_Indian 0.42
11 Khoisan 0.32
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) 8.52
2 Palestinian ( ) 8.71
3 Jordanian ( ) 9.04
4 Syrian ( ) 11.89
5 BedouinA ( ) 11.94
6 Lebanese ( ) 12.23
7 Tunisian_Jew ( ) 12.3
8 Syrian_Jew ( ) 12.74
9 Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) 13.01
10 Libyan_Jew ( ) 13.12
11 Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) 13.16
12 Egyptian_Tanta ( ) 13.37
13 Samaritian ( ) 13.54
14 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 13.63
15 Egyptian_Kairo ( ) 14.27
16 Egyptian_Cairo ( ) 14.57
17 Turk_Jew ( ) 14.64
18 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 14.78
19 Iraki ( ) 14.79
20 Lebanese_Muslim ( ) 14.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% Samaritian ( ) + 20.8% Algerian ( ) @ 3.22
2 82.2% Samaritian ( ) + 17.8% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.28
3 79.7% Lebanese ( ) + 20.3% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.37
4 77.8% Samaritian ( ) + 22.2% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.38
5 78.7% Lebanese ( ) + 21.3% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.38
6 83.8% Lebanese ( ) + 16.2% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.41
7 81% Lebanese ( ) + 19% Algerian ( ) @ 3.53
8 75% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) + 25% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.69
9 76.9% Samaritian ( ) + 23.1% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.7
10 58.9% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) + 41.1% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 3.83
11 51.3% Syrian_Jew ( ) + 48.7% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 3.88
12 53.1% Syrian_Jew ( ) + 46.9% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 3.93
13 62.5% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) + 37.5% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 3.94
14 85.1% Lebanese ( ) + 14.9% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 3.94
15 59.2% Syrian_Jew ( ) + 40.8% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 3.96
16 85.9% Lebanese ( ) + 14.1% Saharawi ( ) @ 4.05
17 65.8% Iraqi_Jew ( ) + 34.2% Tunisian ( ) @ 4.05
18 80.9% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) + 19.1% Morocco_South ( ) @ 4.09
19 76.3% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) + 23.7% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 4.1
20 83.7% Samaritian ( ) + 16.3% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 4.18
MDLP K16
MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.2
2 Neolithic 16.75
3 NearEast 14.79
4 NorthAfrican 10.37
5 Steppe 5.41
6 EastAfrican 3.51
7 Indian 2.01
8 Subsaharian 1.12
9 Oceanic 0.84
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritan (Israel) 4.62
2 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 5.31
3 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 5.57
4 Jordanian (Jordanian) 5.94
5 Jew (Syria) 6.54
6 Palestinian (Israel) 6.56
7 Arab_Israel (Shefa_Amr) 6.64
8 Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) 6.8
9 Syrian (Syria) 7.92
10 Jew (Tunisian) 8.43
11 Jew (Libya) 8.61
12 Lebanese (Lebanon) 9.26
13 Cypriot (Cyprus) 10.14
14 Jew (Turkish_Sephardim) 10.21
15 Jew (Georgia) 10.88
16 Jew (Morocco) 11.14
17 Jew (Turkey) 11.15
18 Druze (Mount_Carmel) 11.22
19 Jew (Sephardim) 11.24
20 Assyrian (Iran) 11.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.6% Samaritan (Israel) + 5.4% Mozabite (Algeria) @ 2.67
2 93.7% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 6.3% Mozabite (Algeria) @ 2.79
3 91.7% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 8.3% Berber (Algeria) @ 3
4 57.5% Palestinian (Israel) + 42.5% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.04
5 92.2% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 7.8% Saharawi (Morocco) @ 3.07
6 91.8% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 8.2% Saharawi (Morocco) @ 3.14
7 93.5% Samaritan (Israel) + 6.5% Berber (Algeria) @ 3.15
8 58.2% Palestinian (Israel) + 41.8% Jew (Libya) @ 3.17
9 89.3% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 10.7% Algerian (Algeria) @ 3.19
10 91.4% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 8.6% Berber (Algeria) @ 3.24
11 94% Samaritan (Israel) + 6% Saharawi (Morocco) @ 3.27
12 61% Jordanian (Jordanian) + 39% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.27
13 88.2% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 11.8% Tunisian (Tunis) @ 3.31
14 87.4% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 12.6% Tunisian (Tunis) @ 3.31
15 93.7% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 6.3% Mozabite (Algeria) @ 3.34
16 91.8% Samaritan (Israel) + 8.2% Algerian (Algeria) @ 3.37
17 51.9% Syrian (Syria) + 48.1% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.38
18 71.2% Samaritan (Israel) + 28.8% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.42
19 65.5% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 34.5% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.44
20 89% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 11% Algerian (Algeria) @ 3.46
MDLP K11
MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Basal 37.32
2 Neolithic 25.93
3 EHG 23.84
4 African 5.95
5 Iran-Mesolithic 5.84
6 Oceanic 1.13
Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
11 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 British_Roman @ 19.432192
2 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 25.107145
3 Armenia_Chalcolithic @ 25.240267
4 Levant_BA @ 27.301584
5 Armenia_EBA @ 28.517410
6 Armenia_MLBA @ 28.964769
7 Armenia_MBA @ 32.717705
8 Levant_N @ 32.821526
9 Armenia_LBA @ 33.555561
10 Anatolia_Chalcolithic @ 35.927876
11 Iran_LN @ 41.322235
12 Vestonice14_Gravettian @ 43.106743
13 Hungary_IronAge @ 44.440666
14 Kostenki14_Upper_Paleolithic @ 49.619221
15 Hungary_MBA @ 49.902187
16 Muierii2_Upper_Paleolithic @ 50.411713
17 Russia_IA @ 51.558578
18 Maros_BA @ 51.746761
19 Unetice_MBA @ 51.850056
20 Vatya_MBA @ 52.427475
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenia_Chalcolithic +50% British_Roman @ 6.216468
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% British_Roman +25% Hungary_MBA +25% Iran_Chalcolithic @ 5.757868
Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + British_Roman + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 4.101380
2 Armenia_Chalcolithic + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.105571
3 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_BA @ 5.147912
4 Greek_Neolithic + British_Roman + Natufian + Satsurblia_CHG @ 5.279218
5 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.322676
6 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + British_Roman @ 5.327697
7 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MBA + British_Roman + British_Roman @ 5.383818
8 Armenia_EBA + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.390645
9 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.406948
10 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_EBA + British_Roman + British_Roman @ 5.554220
11 Balkan_LBA + British_Roman + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 5.559263
12 British_Roman + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Natufian + Satsurblia_CHG @ 5.578753
13 British_Roman + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Natufian + Satsurblia_CHG @ 5.578753
14 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_LBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.584440
15 Armenia_LBA + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.616683
16 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_EBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.707058
17 British_Roman + British_Roman + Hungary_MBA + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 5.757868
18 British_Roman + Hungary_MBA + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_BA @ 5.797588
19 Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.897361
20 Armenia_EBA + Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + Levant_N @ 5.905653
Eurogenes K15
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit DV1504664
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.83
2 Red_Sea 14.41
3 West_Asian 14.12
4 West_Med 9.73
5 Atlantic 7.59
6 Northeast_African 5.16
7 North_Sea 2.05
8 South_Asian 1.56
9 Eastern_Euro 1.44
10 Sub-Saharan 1.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Palestinian 4.02
2 Jordanian 5.44
3 Samaritan 7.23
4 Syrian 8.03
5 Tunisian_Jewish 9.02
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.12
7 Bedouin 9.15
8 Lebanese_Christian 9.53
9 Libyan_Jewish 10.26
10 Lebanese_Druze 10.92
11 Cyprian 11.23
12 Sephardic_Jewish 13.03
13 Egyptian 13.3
14 Algerian_Jewish 14.08
15 Italian_Jewish 14.57
16 Kurdish_Jewish 14.74
17 Iranian_Jewish 15.1
18 Assyrian 17.62
19 Ashkenazi 18.9
20 Yemenite_Jewish 18.97
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% Palestinian + 28.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.86
2 93.8% Palestinian + 6.2% French_Basque @ 1.96
3 78.8% Palestinian + 21.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
4 92.9% Palestinian + 7.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.19
5 92.3% Palestinian + 7.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.19
6 92.7% Palestinian + 7.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.2
7 92.6% Palestinian + 7.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.25
8 86.8% Palestinian + 13.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.29
9 80.8% Palestinian + 19.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.31
10 93.3% Palestinian + 6.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.37
11 81.5% Palestinian + 18.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.37
12 93.4% Palestinian + 6.6% Southwest_French @ 2.37
13 92.5% Palestinian + 7.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.38
14 92.6% Palestinian + 7.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.43
15 93% Palestinian + 7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.5
16 93.1% Palestinian + 6.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.51
17 91.7% Palestinian + 8.3% North_Italian @ 2.53
18 90.1% Palestinian + 9.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
19 92.9% Palestinian + 7.1% Portuguese @ 2.57
20 88.1% Palestinian + 11.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.59
Eurogenes K13
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Kit DV1504664
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 43.19
2 West_Asian 15.16
3 Red_Sea 14.01
4 West_Med 13
5 North_Atlantic 5.57
6 Northeast_African 5.18
7 South_Asian 2.1
8 Baltic 0.9
9 Sub-Saharan 0.88
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Palestinian 3.68
2 Jordanian 5.45
3 Samaritan 6.65
4 Syrian 8.02
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.78
6 Lebanese_Christian 8.92
7 Libyan_Jewish 9.38
8 Tunisian_Jewish 9.54
9 Bedouin 9.59
10 Lebanese_Druze 9.92
11 Cyprian 11.16
12 Egyptian 12.96
13 Sephardic_Jewish 13.84
14 Algerian_Jewish 14.68
15 Italian_Jewish 14.96
16 Kurdish_Jewish 15.4
17 Iranian_Jewish 15.42
18 Ashkenazi 17.68
19 Assyrian 17.81
20 Yemenite_Jewish 19.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% Palestinian + 26.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.58
2 81.9% Palestinian + 18.1% Italian_Jewish @ 1.66
3 81.7% Palestinian + 18.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.68
4 74.2% Palestinian + 25.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.69
5 93.8% Palestinian + 6.2% Sardinian @ 2.04
6 81.8% Palestinian + 18.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
7 85.5% Palestinian + 14.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.15
8 88.8% Palestinian + 11.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.19
9 86.8% Palestinian + 13.2% South_Italian @ 2.19
10 91.3% Palestinian + 8.7% Tuscan @ 2.31
11 87.4% Palestinian + 12.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.32
12 92.8% Palestinian + 7.2% North_Italian @ 2.37
13 94.2% Palestinian + 5.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.4
14 94.1% Palestinian + 5.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.4
15 88.7% Palestinian + 11.3% Central_Greek @ 2.45
16 94.7% Palestinian + 5.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.46
17 94.4% Palestinian + 5.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.47
18 94.9% Palestinian + 5.1% Southwest_French @ 2.48
19 94.7% Palestinian + 5.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.49
20 94.2% Palestinian + 5.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.49
23andme
European
0.5%
Southern European
0.3%
Sub-Saharan African
0.7%
East African
0.7%
West African
0.0%
Central & South African
0.0%
Broadly Sub-Saharan African
0.0%
Middle Eastern & North African
98.5%
North African
52.1%
Middle Eastern
45.4%
Broadly Middle Eastern & North African
1.1%
Hi. Fantastic news, congrats! :thumb001:
Post Dodecad K7b please.
StonyArabia
11-13-2017, 06:36 PM
Where is the y and mtdna? And autosomal DNA ,You should send your results to McDonald. You seem to be North African shifted.
Congrats now you can show this to Ariel not me who disputes you and your people nativity to the region.
randomguy1235
11-13-2017, 06:43 PM
Where is the y and mtdna? And autosomal DNA ,You should send your results to McDonald. You seem to be North African shifted.
Congrats now you can show this to Ariel not me who disputes you and your people nativity to the region.
Y-DNA: T-170M
MtDNA: U6a
Semitic Duwa's input on my haplogroups:
"You have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as Thomas Jefferson (fun fact), however this is a very old haplogroup in the Levant, much older than my own. It has been found in a ~9,500 year-old sample PPNB sample from 'Ain Ghazal, you can read more about 3ayn Ghazal here, it's safe to assume that your ancestors made the famous statues associated with this local Neolithic culture.
It has also been found in a Late Neolithic Moroccan sample (around 5,000 years old) and happens to be a prominent marker in East Africa among Cushitic-speaking populations, where it reaches its maximal frequencies (especially in Somalia and the closely related Afar people). So I'd surmise that this haplogroup was heavily involved in Afroasiatic at an early stage, and more narrowly with the Cushitic-Semitic-Berber continuum. I would strongly suggest taking a Y-DNA test (37 markers) with FTDNA to figure out exactly which branch of T1a-M70 you carry, as some branches are typically Arabian while others are more generally Levantine, that being said even the Arabian ones are bound to come from the Neolithic Levant. This haplogroup is rather rare among present-day Arabs, unless we're talking about specific tribes in the Peninsula, the ruling family of the UAE shares your Y-DNA haplogroup if I'm not mistaken for instance, either way you're more likely to carry a specifically Levantine subclade than an Arabian one, if I had to guess I'd say you're probably T1a-Y7794 like most Jews, though you might also be T1a-Y15127 like most Arabs. Like I said, if you have time and money, you should definitely look into this.
Your maternal haplogroup is a typically Eurasian one (my father is U7a5 BTW), while U6a is typical of Northwest African/Maghrebi populations, especially Berbers who have its highest frequencies, the oldest U6 sample we have so far is a 33,000 year-old female from what is now Romania, she had a lot of Neanderthal ancestry as well IIRC. U6a has also been found in 5 out of 6 Early Neolithic samples from Morocco (IAM, the guys Afrocentric loons here desperately try to claim as their own). More importantly, one of the three Ancient Egyptian samples we have with full coverage was U6a2 (Y-DNA E-V22), so I'm tempted to say that your maternal ancestors came from Egypt when the Levant was under Egyptian domination during the New Kingdom period."
And LOL. Don't act as if you and McCree900 didn't claim that I was genetically Arab or something bro
StonyArabia
11-13-2017, 06:54 PM
Y-DNA: T-170M
MtDNA: U6a
Semitic Duwa's input on my haplogroups:
"You have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as Thomas Jefferson (fun fact), however this is a very old haplogroup in the Levant, much older than my own. It has been found in a ~9,500 year-old sample PPNB sample from 'Ain Ghazal, you can read more about 3ayn Ghazal here, it's safe to assume that your ancestors made the famous statues associated with this local Neolithic culture.
It has also been found in a Late Neolithic Moroccan sample (around 5,000 years old) and happens to be a prominent marker in East Africa among Cushitic-speaking populations, where it reaches its maximal frequencies (especially in Somalia and the closely related Afar people). So I'd surmise that this haplogroup was heavily involved in Afroasiatic at an early stage, and more narrowly with the Cushitic-Semitic-Berber continuum. I would strongly suggest taking a Y-DNA test (37 markers) with FTDNA to figure out exactly which branch of T1a-M70 you carry, as some branches are typically Arabian while others are more generally Levantine, that being said even the Arabian ones are bound to come from the Neolithic Levant. This haplogroup is rather rare among present-day Arabs, unless we're talking about specific tribes in the Peninsula, the ruling family of the UAE shares your Y-DNA haplogroup if I'm not mistaken for instance, either way you're more likely to carry a specifically Levantine subclade than an Arabian one, if I had to guess I'd say you're probably T1a-Y7794 like most Jews, though you might also be T1a-Y15127 like most Arabs. Like I said, if you have time and money, you should definitely look into this.
Your maternal haplogroup is a typically Eurasian one (my father is U7a5 BTW), while U6a is typical of Northwest African/Maghrebi populations, especially Berbers who have its highest frequencies, the oldest U6 sample we have so far is a 33,000 year-old female from what is now Romania, she had a lot of Neanderthal ancestry as well IIRC. U6a has also been found in 5 out of 6 Early Neolithic samples from Morocco (IAM, the guys Afrocentric loons here desperately try to claim as their own). More importantly, one of the three Ancient Egyptian samples we have with full coverage was U6a2 (Y-DNA E-V22), so I'm tempted to say that your maternal ancestors came from Egypt when the Levant was under Egyptian domination during the New Kingdom period."
And LOL. Don't act as if you and McCree900 didn't claim that I was genetically Arab or something bro
You seem to have Berber admixture as your mtDNA is very Berber like and you seem to be Berber shifted. Nice Y-DNA btw. I am also Y-DNA T but mine T*. It seems do to Ariel trolling you tried to be defensive and became anti-Arab/Arabian, so this is the main reason why. Anyways it's nice to see your results. So far you, FairyQueen, and McCree proves him wrong. You don't seem to have much admixture from people of the Arabian pen, but you seem to have a recent Berber ancestry.
Kamal900
11-13-2017, 07:02 PM
You're not exactly the pure Levantine or anything since that you're maternally of Berber origins, but autosomally speaking, you're genetically not much different from my results(predominately Levantine) apart on the fact that you have more recent North African/Maghrebi genetic admixture while I on the other hand have more Arabian and Egyptian admixture. Which proves my point on how Palestinians as a whole are genetically diverse as what Semitic Duwa said.
You should mix with a North Italian to produce an Ashkenazi-like child, lol.
Kamal900
11-13-2017, 07:05 PM
Y-DNA: T-170M
MtDNA: U6a
Semitic Duwa's input on my haplogroups:
"You have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as Thomas Jefferson (fun fact), however this is a very old haplogroup in the Levant, much older than my own. It has been found in a ~9,500 year-old sample PPNB sample from 'Ain Ghazal, you can read more about 3ayn Ghazal here, it's safe to assume that your ancestors made the famous statues associated with this local Neolithic culture.
It has also been found in a Late Neolithic Moroccan sample (around 5,000 years old) and happens to be a prominent marker in East Africa among Cushitic-speaking populations, where it reaches its maximal frequencies (especially in Somalia and the closely related Afar people). So I'd surmise that this haplogroup was heavily involved in Afroasiatic at an early stage, and more narrowly with the Cushitic-Semitic-Berber continuum. I would strongly suggest taking a Y-DNA test (37 markers) with FTDNA to figure out exactly which branch of T1a-M70 you carry, as some branches are typically Arabian while others are more generally Levantine, that being said even the Arabian ones are bound to come from the Neolithic Levant. This haplogroup is rather rare among present-day Arabs, unless we're talking about specific tribes in the Peninsula, the ruling family of the UAE shares your Y-DNA haplogroup if I'm not mistaken for instance, either way you're more likely to carry a specifically Levantine subclade than an Arabian one, if I had to guess I'd say you're probably T1a-Y7794 like most Jews, though you might also be T1a-Y15127 like most Arabs. Like I said, if you have time and money, you should definitely look into this.
Your maternal haplogroup is a typically Eurasian one (my father is U7a5 BTW), while U6a is typical of Northwest African/Maghrebi populations, especially Berbers who have its highest frequencies, the oldest U6 sample we have so far is a 33,000 year-old female from what is now Romania, she had a lot of Neanderthal ancestry as well IIRC. U6a has also been found in 5 out of 6 Early Neolithic samples from Morocco (IAM, the guys Afrocentric loons here desperately try to claim as their own). More importantly, one of the three Ancient Egyptian samples we have with full coverage was U6a2 (Y-DNA E-V22), so I'm tempted to say that your maternal ancestors came from Egypt when the Levant was under Egyptian domination during the New Kingdom period."
And LOL. Don't act as if you and McCree900 didn't claim that I was genetically Arab or something bro
We didn't say that you're genetically predominately Arab. We claimed that you MIGHT have Arabian genetic admixture like many Palestinians including myself. As what you're results show, your foreign admixture comes from North Africa rather than Arabia via your maternal ancestry.
Anglojew
11-14-2017, 10:56 AM
So you're essentually a Samaritan?
Did you do JTest?
26% South West Asian means Arab. And people were telling Levantines aren't Arabs but East Med, that's wrong. Despite other elements and genetic differences from Saudi or UAE people, Levantine Arabs are also Arabs.
There is also a connection with Cypriots obviously with effect until Sicily, through Crete etc.
Sikeliot
11-14-2017, 11:35 AM
The Cypriot/Sicilian/Ashkenazi connection is evident also. You actually do score Sicilian in some of your top 20 population lists. :) Of course this is more because Sicilians and Cypriots have Levantine ancestry rather than you having European, but it shows that you're not that far away from populations familiar to Westerners that are considered white.
randomguy1235
11-14-2017, 01:25 PM
So you're essentually a Samaritan?
Did you do JTest?
More or less, yes! I did not do a Jtest
Sikeliot
11-14-2017, 04:18 PM
How does it feel to have a lot of SSA given that you have said you find them inferior? It might be time to see that you are related to the people you hold racist views toward.
Myanthropologies
11-14-2017, 04:46 PM
How does it feel to have a lot of SSA given that you have said you find them inferior? It might be time to see that you are related to the people you hold racist views toward.
++++++100
Kamal900
11-14-2017, 04:48 PM
How does it feel to have a lot of SSA given that you have said you find them inferior? It might be time to see that you are related to the people you hold racist views toward.
He used to look down on North Africans too, and yet, he's maternally Maghrebi himself. It's ironic, indeed.
How does it feel to have a lot of SSA given that you have said you find them inferior? It might be time to see that you are related to the people you hold racist views toward.
Bullshit. There are actually black race realists who understand that different people are not all the same as liberals keep repeating. All the so called social sciences teach two things: 1) we're all equal 2) if someone's doing better than others, then he might be somehow "privileged" and others are somehow "oppressed".
randomguy1235
11-14-2017, 06:22 PM
How does it feel to have a lot of SSA given that you have said you find them inferior? It might be time to see that you are related to the people you hold racist views toward.
Huh? Just because I acknowledge the reality of IQ disparities between varied populations who've had drastically different selection pressures for TENS of thousands of years =/= racist. And I don't have much SSA at all. Less than the average for Muslim Palis anyways.
randomguy1235
11-14-2017, 06:27 PM
He used to look down on North Africans too, and yet, he's maternally Maghrebi himself. It's ironic, indeed.
1) No I didn't.
2) Coming from the person who was openly racist towards blacks? That's funny. Also, I'm not maternally Berber. It's just that I MIGHT have some minor, more recent NA ancestry
Kamal900
11-14-2017, 06:38 PM
1) No I didn't.
2) Coming from the person who was openly racist towards blacks? That's funny. Also, I'm not maternally Berber. It's just that I MIGHT have some minor, more recent NA ancestry
Well, your haplogroup says otherwise, but okay. I was harsh and at times even was very blunt about it, especially against some of the Afrocentric members here who basically jumped on me for simply disagreeing with them, I agree. But I apologised for that, and ever since, I never spoke against Black people even though I do agree on the notion that there are racial differences between all human races in terms of culture, intelligence and so on which is based on realism rather than racism. When I said that you looked down on them, I didn't mean that you hated them. I was simply saying that you were denying that most Palestinians do have significant NA and Arabian admixture in them, and that you were applying the notion that most Palestinians are like me and you genetically which is not the case at all. I mean, we vary genetically of course, but on average, Palestinians and other Muslim Levantines are more closer to Arabians and the Afro-Asiatic groups of Africa like Berbers and so on than to west Asiatic peoples like Persians, Turks and etc due to admixture, that's all.
Myanthropologies
11-14-2017, 07:05 PM
Huh? Just because I acknowledge the reality of IQ disparities between varied populations who've had drastically different selection pressures for TENS of thousands of years =/= racist. And I don't have much SSA at all. Less than the average for Muslim Palis anyways.
You do realize that in populations like animals, most so-called "selection pressures" actually take like millions of years to actually do something. I mean for christ sake, you make it sound like different "races" are different species. Neanderthals and humans only split apart 400,000 years ago even after sharing a recent ancestor with humans as much as 1 million years ago. What makes you think that 10,000 yrs or even 50,000 years contributed to anything significant? If intelligence was really varied among different populations of humans, then we'd see it among different populations of other species as well, but we don't. Come on dude, I thought you're a medical student. This is General Biology II info.
Bullshit. There are actually black race realists who understand that different people are not all the same as liberals keep repeating. All the so called social sciences teach two things: 1) we're all equal 2) if someone's doing better than others, then he might be somehow "privileged" and others are somehow "oppressed".
It has been shown over and over again (especially when comparing IQ scores of African immigrants vs African Americans or comparing a black and white person of the same economic class), that iq differences largely stem from oppression and social issues. There are also tests meant to measure intelligence where chimpanzees have performed better on average than humans did. Does this mean that chimpanzees are more intelligent than humans? According to your logic, it does.
Gangrel
11-14-2017, 07:12 PM
He used to look down on North Africans too, and yet, he's maternally Maghrebi himself. It's ironic, indeed.
this guy is another owd cuck?
I mean, we vary genetically of course, but on average, Palestinians and other Muslim Levantines are more closer to Arabians and the Afro-Asiatic groups of Africa like Berbers and so on than to west Asiatic peoples like Persians, Turks and etc due to admixture, that's all.
There are no Persian reference data afaik. There are Iranian samples who happen to be closer to Turks than north Kurds are. North Kurds should actually be closer to Turks considering they are abit Turcoman-admixed. The only explanation is that Iranian sample isn't Persian or at least not fully but heavily Turkic-admixed person possibly even Azerbaijani.
Hadouken
11-14-2017, 07:31 PM
There are no Persian reference data afaik. There are Iranian samples who happen to be closer to Turks than north Kurds are. North Kurds should actually be closer to Turks considering they are abit Turcoman-admixed. The only explanation is that Iranian sample isn't Persian or at least not fully but heavily Turkic-admixed person possibly even Azerbaijani.
I think it depends on the calculator also
for example the kurdish samples on gedrosia calculators are very dubious . I dont get them even in top 10 on some calculators there wtf
I guess the iranian samples also vary . I do think a lot of the samples are persian though . however likely not from the south or east that one is for sure because east iranians have a different shift if I remember right (I have seen such a result)
randomguy1235
11-14-2017, 08:53 PM
You do realize that in populations like animals, most so-called "selection pressures" actually take like millions of years to actually do something. I mean for christ sake, you make it sound like different "races" are different species. Neanderthals and humans only split apart 400,000 years ago even after sharing a recent ancestor with humans as much as 1 million years ago. What makes you think that 10,000 yrs or even 50,000 years contributed to anything significant? If intelligence was really varied among different populations of humans, then we'd see it among different populations of other species as well, but we don't. Come on dude, I thought you're a medical student. This is General Biology II info.
I'm sorry, but this is some of dumbest stuff I've read in a while. Bro, selection pressures and mutational adaptations have nothing to do with a fixed/predetermined amount of time. Various branches of fauna exhibit radically different gestation and adaptation rates, so it's fallacious to try and equate their cycles to ours and vice versa. Take for example some species of bacteria in a petri dish: Their selection pressures (exposure to substance with antibacterial properties) and subsequent adaptation can take as little as a couple of days, no need for millions of years.
It has been shown over and over again (especially when comparing IQ scores of African immigrants vs African Americans or comparing a black and white person of the same economic class), that iq differences largely stem from oppression and social issues. There are also tests meant to measure intelligence where chimpanzees have performed better on average than humans did. Does this mean that chimpanzees are more intelligent than humans? According to your logic, it does.
Nope. Comparing the brightest, highly stratified group of immigrants with the average of their host society = Bad reasoning. Just because a 100 IQ Nigerian immigrates to the U.S. doesn't negate the fact that the AVERAGE Nigerian still scores around 70 in terms of IQ.
randomguy1235
11-14-2017, 08:56 PM
this guy is another owd cuck?
lol @ using an anti-intellectual term like OWD. No, I'm a Samaritan who's been accused of being non-indigenous/Arab by a number of posters here.
You do realize that in populations like animals, most so-called "selection pressures" actually take like millions of years to actually do something. I mean for christ sake, you make it sound like different "races" are different species. Neanderthals and humans only split apart 400,000 years ago even after sharing a recent ancestor with humans as much as 1 million years ago. What makes you think that 10,000 yrs or even 50,000 years contributed to anything significant? If intelligence was really varied among different populations of humans, then we'd see it among different populations of other species as well, but we don't. Come on dude, I thought you're a medical student. This is General Biology II info.
It has been shown over and over again (especially when comparing IQ scores of African immigrants vs African Americans or comparing a black and white person of the same economic class), that iq differences largely stem from oppression and social issues. There are also tests meant to measure intelligence where chimpanzees have performed better on average than humans did. Does this mean that chimpanzees are more intelligent than humans? According to your logic, it does.
You're an SJW, listen to Jordan Petersen and Charles Murray. I'm not saying IQ is everything, but to me it's obvious that people are not equal. Both inside a race and outside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lsa_97KIlc
Myanthropologies
11-15-2017, 12:41 AM
I'm sorry, but this is some of dumbest stuff I've read in a while. Bro, selection pressures and mutational adaptations have nothing to do with a fixed/predetermined amount of time. Various branches of fauna exhibit radically different gestation and adaptation rates, so it's fallacious to try and equate their cycles to ours and vice versa. Take for example some species of bacteria in a petri dish: Their selection pressures (exposure to substance with antibacterial properties) and subsequent adaptation can take as little as a couple of days, no need for millions of years.
Nope. Comparing the brightest, highly stratified group of immigrants with the average of their host society = Bad reasoning. Just because a 100 IQ Nigerian immigrates to the U.S. doesn't negate the fact that the AVERAGE Nigerian still scores around 70 in terms of IQ.
We aren't bacteria though, we're mammals. The life history traits of mammals tend to be something between K and R selection, whereas bacteria are one of the few species that are strictly R shifted. They put all their energy into making abundant offspring and reproduce at younger ages, where as humans are larger, and put more of their energy into their own development instead of producing more offspring. Clearly humans and bacteria aren't under the same selection pressures, otherwise humans would be mutating as much as bacteria do. This is why divergence in mammals, especially divergence due to secular dispersal ONLY causes major genetic differences over millions of years.
And comparing the "brightest" Nigerian immigrants is fair because they have access to the same things upper class whites in America do, whereas in Nigeria they obviously don't. You can't compare upper class westerners to people in environments of developing countries. I don't understand why you believe that it is more fair to compare people in developing country conditions/poverty to upper class westerners than it is to compare them to black people in the same environmental conditions as the westerners. Your logic makes no sense at all. Just because they're "average," doesn't rule out the fact that their environmental factors are largely different.
Myanthropologies
11-15-2017, 12:46 AM
You're an SJW, listen to Jordan Petersen and Charles Murray. I'm not saying IQ is everything, but to me it's obvious that people are not equal. Both inside a race and outside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lsa_97KIlc
I may be a liberal, but im educated in the field of biology and I'm a 4th year student at one of America's best public universities. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. My politics are shaped around my knowledge of science and society, NOT the other way around like you're implying.
Anglojew
11-15-2017, 02:57 AM
More or less, yes! I did not do a Jtest
I thought you were a Samaritan remember?
You should do a JTest.
I hope you embrace your Israelite heritage. You're a descendant of Ephraim and Manasseh.
frankhammer
11-15-2017, 03:12 AM
lol @ using an anti-intellectual term like OWD. No, I'm a Samaritan who's been accused of being non-indigenous/Arab by a number of posters here.
Welcome back.
Myanthropologies
11-15-2017, 07:24 PM
Aren't you just an ethnic Palestinian? Aren't Samartians and entirely different modern ethnic group? I'm confused. I am pretty sure most of your ancestry is native Levantine, but what makes you think it's specifically Samartian?
Myanthropologies
11-15-2017, 07:31 PM
I mean your gedmatch results don't seem drastically different compared to the average ethnic Palestinian, like this one (Moody)
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=46338
randomguy1235
11-15-2017, 08:05 PM
I mean your gedmatch results don't seem drastically different compared to the average ethnic Palestinian, like this one (Moody)
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=46338
Moody and I aren't average Muslim Palestinians in terms of genetic composition. And please read the analysis on the first page/post to glean more information
Kamal900
11-22-2017, 07:25 AM
Moody and I aren't average Muslim Palestinians in terms of genetic composition. And please read the analysis on the first page/post to glean more information
True, but that doesn't negate on what he said on the matter. I mean, being an Arab isn't about belonging to a specific race or anything, and Palestinians are culturally and ethnically different from Samaritans who have their own distinct culture and identity. You and I aren't exactly the typical for an average Palestinian, yes, but that doesn't mean that we're genetically pure since we do have foreign ancestry as well. The average Arabian admixture among Palestinians is around 20 to 30% according to this 2015 genetic study on the different Arab populations:
Although it is not possible to date securely events as old as the ones occurring in the Pleistocene/Holocene transition based on genome-wide data alone, it is interesting to observe how the patterns of shared genome-wide ancestry support the inferences made for the mtDNA. All the Arabian populations form a close group with Near East populations in PC analysis (Fig. 3), with the first component explaining 44% of the diversity and partitioning populations along a west–east axis, and the second component explaining 8% and organising populations on a north–south axis. A few individuals in Arabian populations most probably had recent ancestry within Africa (especially for Yemen) or Pakistan (in the United Arab Emirates; UAE). Yemen shows the highest dispersion along the first axis, testifying again the higher African input in the closest country to the Horn of Africa. We confirmed the clustering of Yemeni Jews with Bedouin and Saudi Arabians, already identified previously [23], and probably indicating that they were less open to recent admixture with non-Arabian populations than their Yemeni Arab/Muslims neighbours.
The ADMIXTURE results indicate that K = 6 (Fig. 4 and Table 1; other K plots are displayed in S38 Fig.) is the number of clusters that best represents the population structure of the analysed populations. Here it is already possible to distinguish between a Southwest Asian/Caucasian and an Arabian/North African component; these two components have similar proportions of ∼30% each in Yemen and UAE, but the Arabian/North African proportion increases to 52–60% in Saudi and Bedouin. In Near Eastern populations, correspondingly, the Southwest Asian/Caucasian component rises to ∼50% and the Arabian/North African cluster decreases to ∼20–30%, even in Palestinians (similar to the Samaritans and some of the Druze), highlighting their primarily indigenous origin, with the most extreme values for the Druze, carrying the Southwest Asian/Caucasian component at ∼80%.
European background is higher in Near Eastern populations (around 9–15%) than in Arabia (1.5–5%) while the African ancestry is ∼25% in Yemen, and then 4–8% in all Arabian and Near East populations except in Samaritans and Druze, with 0–2%. The UAE has a substantial pool from South Asia (21%) similar to the proportion displayed in Iran (24%), which falls to below 10% in all other Arabian and Near Eastern populations, except Turkey (18%).
ADMIXTURE allows us to calculate FST values between the components in order to quantify their similarity (Fig. 5A). For K = 6, Arabia showed a lower distance from the Near East (0.046), than from Europe (0.052), eastern Africa (0.098) and finally western Africa (0.140). Arabia and the Near East have similar genetic distances from eastern African (0.098 and 0.097, respectively), double that of the value between western and eastern Africa (0.046). When evaluating FST values in pairwise comparisons between Arabian and Near Eastern populations (Fig. 5B), we see that FST values are higher between Yemen and all other populations (and also for comparisons with Samaritans, but these results may be biased by low sample size). The UAE is closer to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon than Saudi Arabia is; while Saudi are closer to Palestinians, Druze and Samaritans than UAE. Thus, FST values support lower or similar genetic distances between UAE and Near Eastern populations as between Saudi and Near Eastern populations, while Yemen is clearly more divergent.
At the genome-wide level, Egypt is quite similar to its Levantine neighbours, displaying a mainly Near Eastern (39.8%) and Arabian/North African (30.5%) background, with slightly higher western (5.6%) and eastern (15.1%) African proportions, and lower European (8.4%) and South Asian (0.6%) proportions. The ROLLOFF estimate for admixture in Egypt (using Africans and Europeans as ancestral populations) was 30 generations, predictably young due to continuous gene flow between the two regions. Morocco and Tunisia presented similar western (9.8–12.2%) and eastern African (10.4–12.1%) components and roughly twice the magnitude for each of the European (22.8–25.5%), Near Eastern (21.4–26.0%) and Arabian (28.9–31.0%) pools. Again these young dates show that simple genome-wide dating approaches based on linkage disequilibrium decay must be applied cautiously in complex scenarios of several migrations occurring over a long span of time, such as the ones which took place across the Red Sea, North Africa [56] and Iberia [57].
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0118625
As you can see, Saudis, Yemenite Jews and Bedouins are more closer to us Palestinians and Samaritans while the Emirati Arabs are more closer to the near east due to their more near eastern genetic ancestry and so on. The study does agree that Palestinians are largely natives genetically, but they do have significant Arabian admixture in them.
True, but that doesn't negate on what he said on the matter. I mean, being an Arab isn't about belonging to a specific race or anything, and Palestinians are culturally and ethnically different from Samaritans who have their own distinct culture and identity. You and I aren't exactly the typical for an average Palestinian, yes, but that doesn't mean that we're genetically pure since we do have foreign ancestry as well. The average Arabian admixture among Palestinians is around 20 to 30% according to this 2015 genetic study on the different Arab populations:
As you can see, Saudis, Yemenite Jews and Bedouins are more closer to us Palestinians and Samaritans while the Emirati Arabs are more closer to the near east due to their more near eastern genetic ancestry and so on. The study does agree that Palestinians are largely natives genetically, but they do have significant Arabian admixture in them.
I wonder what about Syria and Lebanon. Quite a few Syrians look straight up Arabian.
Grace O'Malley
11-24-2017, 01:36 PM
Hello everyone! Long time no post.
@TheBedouin @McCree900 @Wadaad .... Stay mad
Here's Semitic Duwa's expert analysis on my results:
"OK so you clearly owe the vast majority of your ancestry to a Samaritan-like source.
The most convincing results come from MDLP K23b, Eurogenes K13 and PuntDNAL K13 Global. You often get fits that are invariably +80% Samaritan + North African (or Horner), while I think the North African signal is bogus it is worthy of consideration since your mtDNA haplogroup is very common in NW Africa, I'll see what happens if we use Copts to proxy that signal once you get your Global 10 results. Surprisingly, you often get high Genetic Distances (GDs) in the single population mode, this could be indicative of recent admixture or, more likely, of sampling bias.
The funny thing is that despite the North African signal, you're not particularly shifted towards Bedouins and Peninsular Arabs, you're closer to Lebanese Muslims and Christians instead, heck you're also closer to Western Jews (Ashkenazi, Italian, Sephardic, North African & Syro-Lebanese) Jews than to several Arabian populations so if this isn't bogus it has to be recent North African ancestry. One thing which could vindicate this signal is the set of fits which proxy you as 90% Palestinian Christian + Berber.
In terms of Levantine substructure, you seem to be somewhat more akin to "Israeli Arabs"/3arab 48/Filastiniyi ed Dakhel than to the Palestinian reference, more importantly "Christian_Arabs_Israel" doesn't show up in the K23b oracle, so you share drift with the Muslim community (the genetic distance is rather high though, so I wouldn't take this too seriously). You're consistently close to Samaritans as well, you even get Samaritan as your first population in MDLP K11 so I'm going to assume that you're on the less Arabian-admixed side of the spectrum (Palestinians vary wildly, some are like Saudis and Negev Bedouins, others are like Samaritans and Lebanese Christians, others still are somewhere in between, not far from Jordanians).
^^I'll test all of the above when you'll get your K7 and G10 results from Davidski. To make things short, you owe the vast majority of your ancestry (over 75%) to a Samaritan-like source (probably Jews in your case) and you might have some recent North African ancestry (but this is relatively minor)."
puntDNAL K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 36.62
2 Caucasian 26.45
3 SW_Asian 17.67
4 Horn_Of_Africa 10.62
5 NE_European 3.16
6 S_Indian 2.68
7 Wht_Nile_River 2.52
8 Siberian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritian 7.84
2 Palestinian 7.95
3 Lebanese 10.67
4 Jordanian 10.74
5 Egyptian 10.78
6 Iraqi_Jew 11.22
7 Syrian 11.98
8 Cypriot 12.08
9 Libyan 12.27
10 Druze 13.02
11 Yemenite_Jew 14.79
12 Sephardic_Jew 15.93
13 Assyrian 18.62
14 Sicilian 18.92
15 Ashkenazy_Jew 18.96
16 Turk_Kayseri 20.01
17 Bedouin_A 20.24
18 Yemenese 20.44
19 Kurdish 22.65
20 Armenian 22.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% Egyptian + 46.9% Cypriot @ 3.32
2 55.5% Cypriot + 44.5% Yemenite_Jew @ 3.85
3 66.3% Libyan + 33.7% Turk_Trabzon @ 4.18
4 50.4% Cypriot + 49.6% Libyan @ 4.23
5 90.1% Samaritian + 9.9% Somali @ 4.31
6 87.1% Samaritian + 12.9% Eritrean @ 4.43
7 88.4% Samaritian + 11.6% Afar @ 4.49
8 87.1% Samaritian + 12.9% Tygray @ 4.52
9 87.8% Samaritian + 12.2% Amhara @ 4.58
10 88.8% Samaritian + 11.2% Oromo @ 4.62
11 61.4% Libyan + 38.6% Assyrian @ 4.63
12 63.2% Libyan + 36.8% Turk_Kayseri @ 4.65
13 66.2% Libyan + 33.8% Armenian @ 4.68
14 60.8% Samaritian + 39.2% Egyptian @ 4.72
15 81.7% Cypriot + 18.3% Afar @ 5.03
16 79.7% Cypriot + 20.3% Tygray @ 5.03
17 77% Libyan + 23% Georgian @ 5.04
18 85.9% Samaritian + 14.1% Somali_Benadiri @ 5.05
19 91.5% Samaritian + 8.5% Maasai @ 5.08
20 90.3% Samaritian + 9.7% Wolayta @ 5.16
puntDNAL K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 31.84
2 West_Asia 30.09
3 SW_Asia 26.27
4 East_Africa 5.29
5 Siberia 2.35
6 NE_Europe 2.16
7 South_Asia 1.6
8 West_Africa 0.24
9 South_Africa 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Jordanian 6.37
2 Syrian 7.31
3 Lebanese_Christian 7.48
4 Palestinian 8.26
5 Lebanese_Druze 8.28
6 Lebanese_Muslim 8.46
7 Samaritan_Jew 9.96
8 Cypriot 10.36
9 Egyptian_Copts 13.47
10 Egyptian 14.18
11 Assyrian 14.89
12 Sephardic_Jew 15.07
13 Turkish_Kayseri 15.48
14 Turkish 16.02
15 Armenian 16.36
16 Yemeni 17.14
17 Italian_Sicilian 18.4
18 Turkish_Trabzon 19.03
19 Ashkenazy_Jew 19.16
20 Azerbaijan_Azeri 19.76
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% Cypriot + 41% Egyptian @ 4.43
2 57.7% Cypriot + 42.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 4.57
3 84.3% Cypriot + 15.7% Amhara @ 4.73
4 83.8% Cypriot + 16.2% Tigray @ 4.77
5 59.4% Egyptian_Copts + 40.6% Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.87
6 82% Lebanese_Druze + 18% Saharawi @ 4.97
7 91.2% Lebanese_Christian + 8.8% Oromo @ 5.05
8 84.6% Lebanese_Christian + 15.4% Saharawi @ 5.06
9 70.7% Lebanese_Christian + 29.3% Egyptian @ 5.08
10 89.6% Lebanese_Christian + 10.4% Tigray @ 5.08
11 91.7% Lebanese_Christian + 8.3% Somali @ 5.09
12 87.1% Cypriot + 12.9% Somali @ 5.11
13 92.7% Lebanese_Christian + 7.3% Aricultivator @ 5.16
14 90.1% Lebanese_Christian + 9.9% Amhara @ 5.16
15 91.9% Lebanese_Christian + 8.1% Datog @ 5.17
16 70.7% Syrian + 29.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 5.17
17 91.6% Lebanese_Christian + 8.4% Wolayta @ 5.21
18 86.5% Cypriot + 13.5% Oromo @ 5.21
19 65.9% Lebanese_Druze + 34.1% Egyptian_Copts @ 5.22
20 54% Egyptian_Copts + 46% Turkish_Kayseri @ 5.23
MDLP K23
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.21
2 Near_East 21.87
3 North_African 13.79
4 European_Early_Farmers 12.45
5 South_Central_Asian 9.63
6 East_African 3.74
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.37
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.14
9 Subsaharian 1
10 South_Indian 0.42
11 Khoisan 0.32
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) 8.52
2 Palestinian ( ) 8.71
3 Jordanian ( ) 9.04
4 Syrian ( ) 11.89
5 BedouinA ( ) 11.94
6 Lebanese ( ) 12.23
7 Tunisian_Jew ( ) 12.3
8 Syrian_Jew ( ) 12.74
9 Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) 13.01
10 Libyan_Jew ( ) 13.12
11 Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) 13.16
12 Egyptian_Tanta ( ) 13.37
13 Samaritian ( ) 13.54
14 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 13.63
15 Egyptian_Kairo ( ) 14.27
16 Egyptian_Cairo ( ) 14.57
17 Turk_Jew ( ) 14.64
18 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 14.78
19 Iraki ( ) 14.79
20 Lebanese_Muslim ( ) 14.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% Samaritian ( ) + 20.8% Algerian ( ) @ 3.22
2 82.2% Samaritian ( ) + 17.8% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.28
3 79.7% Lebanese ( ) + 20.3% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.37
4 77.8% Samaritian ( ) + 22.2% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 3.38
5 78.7% Lebanese ( ) + 21.3% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.38
6 83.8% Lebanese ( ) + 16.2% Morocco_South ( ) @ 3.41
7 81% Lebanese ( ) + 19% Algerian ( ) @ 3.53
8 75% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) + 25% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.69
9 76.9% Samaritian ( ) + 23.1% Tunisian ( ) @ 3.7
10 58.9% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) + 41.1% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 3.83
11 51.3% Syrian_Jew ( ) + 48.7% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 3.88
12 53.1% Syrian_Jew ( ) + 46.9% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 3.93
13 62.5% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) + 37.5% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 3.94
14 85.1% Lebanese ( ) + 14.9% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 3.94
15 59.2% Syrian_Jew ( ) + 40.8% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 3.96
16 85.9% Lebanese ( ) + 14.1% Saharawi ( ) @ 4.05
17 65.8% Iraqi_Jew ( ) + 34.2% Tunisian ( ) @ 4.05
18 80.9% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) + 19.1% Morocco_South ( ) @ 4.09
19 76.3% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) + 23.7% Shaigi_Sudan ( ) @ 4.1
20 83.7% Samaritian ( ) + 16.3% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 4.18
MDLP K16
MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 45.2
2 Neolithic 16.75
3 NearEast 14.79
4 NorthAfrican 10.37
5 Steppe 5.41
6 EastAfrican 3.51
7 Indian 2.01
8 Subsaharian 1.12
9 Oceanic 0.84
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritan (Israel) 4.62
2 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 5.31
3 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 5.57
4 Jordanian (Jordanian) 5.94
5 Jew (Syria) 6.54
6 Palestinian (Israel) 6.56
7 Arab_Israel (Shefa_Amr) 6.64
8 Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) 6.8
9 Syrian (Syria) 7.92
10 Jew (Tunisian) 8.43
11 Jew (Libya) 8.61
12 Lebanese (Lebanon) 9.26
13 Cypriot (Cyprus) 10.14
14 Jew (Turkish_Sephardim) 10.21
15 Jew (Georgia) 10.88
16 Jew (Morocco) 11.14
17 Jew (Turkey) 11.15
18 Druze (Mount_Carmel) 11.22
19 Jew (Sephardim) 11.24
20 Assyrian (Iran) 11.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.6% Samaritan (Israel) + 5.4% Mozabite (Algeria) @ 2.67
2 93.7% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 6.3% Mozabite (Algeria) @ 2.79
3 91.7% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 8.3% Berber (Algeria) @ 3
4 57.5% Palestinian (Israel) + 42.5% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.04
5 92.2% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 7.8% Saharawi (Morocco) @ 3.07
6 91.8% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 8.2% Saharawi (Morocco) @ 3.14
7 93.5% Samaritan (Israel) + 6.5% Berber (Algeria) @ 3.15
8 58.2% Palestinian (Israel) + 41.8% Jew (Libya) @ 3.17
9 89.3% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 10.7% Algerian (Algeria) @ 3.19
10 91.4% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 8.6% Berber (Algeria) @ 3.24
11 94% Samaritan (Israel) + 6% Saharawi (Morocco) @ 3.27
12 61% Jordanian (Jordanian) + 39% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.27
13 88.2% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 11.8% Tunisian (Tunis) @ 3.31
14 87.4% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 12.6% Tunisian (Tunis) @ 3.31
15 93.7% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 6.3% Mozabite (Algeria) @ 3.34
16 91.8% Samaritan (Israel) + 8.2% Algerian (Algeria) @ 3.37
17 51.9% Syrian (Syria) + 48.1% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.38
18 71.2% Samaritan (Israel) + 28.8% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.42
19 65.5% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 34.5% Jew (Tunisian) @ 3.44
20 89% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 11% Algerian (Algeria) @ 3.46
MDLP K11
MDLP K11 Modern 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Basal 37.32
2 Neolithic 25.93
3 EHG 23.84
4 African 5.95
5 Iran-Mesolithic 5.84
6 Oceanic 1.13
Finished reading population data. 161 populations found.
11 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 British_Roman @ 19.432192
2 Iran_Chalcolithic @ 25.107145
3 Armenia_Chalcolithic @ 25.240267
4 Levant_BA @ 27.301584
5 Armenia_EBA @ 28.517410
6 Armenia_MLBA @ 28.964769
7 Armenia_MBA @ 32.717705
8 Levant_N @ 32.821526
9 Armenia_LBA @ 33.555561
10 Anatolia_Chalcolithic @ 35.927876
11 Iran_LN @ 41.322235
12 Vestonice14_Gravettian @ 43.106743
13 Hungary_IronAge @ 44.440666
14 Kostenki14_Upper_Paleolithic @ 49.619221
15 Hungary_MBA @ 49.902187
16 Muierii2_Upper_Paleolithic @ 50.411713
17 Russia_IA @ 51.558578
18 Maros_BA @ 51.746761
19 Unetice_MBA @ 51.850056
20 Vatya_MBA @ 52.427475
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenia_Chalcolithic +50% British_Roman @ 6.216468
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% British_Roman +25% Hungary_MBA +25% Iran_Chalcolithic @ 5.757868
Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + British_Roman + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 4.101380
2 Armenia_Chalcolithic + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.105571
3 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_BA @ 5.147912
4 Greek_Neolithic + British_Roman + Natufian + Satsurblia_CHG @ 5.279218
5 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.322676
6 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + British_Roman @ 5.327697
7 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MBA + British_Roman + British_Roman @ 5.383818
8 Armenia_EBA + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.390645
9 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.406948
10 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_EBA + British_Roman + British_Roman @ 5.554220
11 Balkan_LBA + British_Roman + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 5.559263
12 British_Roman + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Natufian + Satsurblia_CHG @ 5.578753
13 British_Roman + GermanStuttgart_LBK + Natufian + Satsurblia_CHG @ 5.578753
14 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_LBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.584440
15 Armenia_LBA + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.616683
16 Anatolia_Chalcolithic + Armenia_EBA + British_Roman + Levant_BA @ 5.707058
17 British_Roman + British_Roman + Hungary_MBA + Iran_Chalcolithic @ 5.757868
18 British_Roman + Hungary_MBA + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_BA @ 5.797588
19 Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + Iran_Chalcolithic + Levant_N @ 5.897361
20 Armenia_EBA + Armenia_MLBA + British_Roman + Levant_N @ 5.905653
Eurogenes K15
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Kit DV1504664
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.83
2 Red_Sea 14.41
3 West_Asian 14.12
4 West_Med 9.73
5 Atlantic 7.59
6 Northeast_African 5.16
7 North_Sea 2.05
8 South_Asian 1.56
9 Eastern_Euro 1.44
10 Sub-Saharan 1.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Palestinian 4.02
2 Jordanian 5.44
3 Samaritan 7.23
4 Syrian 8.03
5 Tunisian_Jewish 9.02
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.12
7 Bedouin 9.15
8 Lebanese_Christian 9.53
9 Libyan_Jewish 10.26
10 Lebanese_Druze 10.92
11 Cyprian 11.23
12 Sephardic_Jewish 13.03
13 Egyptian 13.3
14 Algerian_Jewish 14.08
15 Italian_Jewish 14.57
16 Kurdish_Jewish 14.74
17 Iranian_Jewish 15.1
18 Assyrian 17.62
19 Ashkenazi 18.9
20 Yemenite_Jewish 18.97
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% Palestinian + 28.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.86
2 93.8% Palestinian + 6.2% French_Basque @ 1.96
3 78.8% Palestinian + 21.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
4 92.9% Palestinian + 7.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.19
5 92.3% Palestinian + 7.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.19
6 92.7% Palestinian + 7.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.2
7 92.6% Palestinian + 7.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.25
8 86.8% Palestinian + 13.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.29
9 80.8% Palestinian + 19.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.31
10 93.3% Palestinian + 6.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.37
11 81.5% Palestinian + 18.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.37
12 93.4% Palestinian + 6.6% Southwest_French @ 2.37
13 92.5% Palestinian + 7.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.38
14 92.6% Palestinian + 7.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.43
15 93% Palestinian + 7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.5
16 93.1% Palestinian + 6.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.51
17 91.7% Palestinian + 8.3% North_Italian @ 2.53
18 90.1% Palestinian + 9.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
19 92.9% Palestinian + 7.1% Portuguese @ 2.57
20 88.1% Palestinian + 11.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.59
Eurogenes K13
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Kit DV1504664
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 43.19
2 West_Asian 15.16
3 Red_Sea 14.01
4 West_Med 13
5 North_Atlantic 5.57
6 Northeast_African 5.18
7 South_Asian 2.1
8 Baltic 0.9
9 Sub-Saharan 0.88
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Palestinian 3.68
2 Jordanian 5.45
3 Samaritan 6.65
4 Syrian 8.02
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.78
6 Lebanese_Christian 8.92
7 Libyan_Jewish 9.38
8 Tunisian_Jewish 9.54
9 Bedouin 9.59
10 Lebanese_Druze 9.92
11 Cyprian 11.16
12 Egyptian 12.96
13 Sephardic_Jewish 13.84
14 Algerian_Jewish 14.68
15 Italian_Jewish 14.96
16 Kurdish_Jewish 15.4
17 Iranian_Jewish 15.42
18 Ashkenazi 17.68
19 Assyrian 17.81
20 Yemenite_Jewish 19.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% Palestinian + 26.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.58
2 81.9% Palestinian + 18.1% Italian_Jewish @ 1.66
3 81.7% Palestinian + 18.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.68
4 74.2% Palestinian + 25.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.69
5 93.8% Palestinian + 6.2% Sardinian @ 2.04
6 81.8% Palestinian + 18.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
7 85.5% Palestinian + 14.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.15
8 88.8% Palestinian + 11.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.19
9 86.8% Palestinian + 13.2% South_Italian @ 2.19
10 91.3% Palestinian + 8.7% Tuscan @ 2.31
11 87.4% Palestinian + 12.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.32
12 92.8% Palestinian + 7.2% North_Italian @ 2.37
13 94.2% Palestinian + 5.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.4
14 94.1% Palestinian + 5.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.4
15 88.7% Palestinian + 11.3% Central_Greek @ 2.45
16 94.7% Palestinian + 5.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.46
17 94.4% Palestinian + 5.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.47
18 94.9% Palestinian + 5.1% Southwest_French @ 2.48
19 94.7% Palestinian + 5.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.49
20 94.2% Palestinian + 5.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.49
23andme
European
0.5%
Southern European
0.3%
Sub-Saharan African
0.7%
East African
0.7%
West African
0.0%
Central & South African
0.0%
Broadly Sub-Saharan African
0.0%
Middle Eastern & North African
98.5%
North African
52.1%
Middle Eastern
45.4%
Broadly Middle Eastern & North African
1.1%
Nice to see you post again. Thanks for taking the time to post your results.
MaldenK
12-22-2019, 12:16 PM
Compare your MDLP K16 to mine
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 49.66
2 NearEast 17.9
3 Neolithic 15.94
4 NorthAfrican 5.99
5 Steppe 4.36
6 EastAfrican 2.78
7 Indian 2.2
8 Oceanic 1.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritan (Israel) 4.43
2 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 4.91
3 Palestinian (Israel) 5.64
4 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 5.66
5 Syrian (Syria) 6.36
6 Jordanian (Jordanian) 6.92
7 Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) 7.17
8 Druze (Mount_Carmel) 7.78
9 Lebanese (Lebanon) 7.95
10 Jew (Georgia) 8.71
11 Arab_Israel (Shefa_Amr) 8.83
12 Cypriot (Cyprus) 8.98
13 Jew (Syria) 9.09
14 Jew (Iraqi) 9.73
15 Assyrian (Iran) 10.09
16 Assyrian (Armavir) 10.33
17 Jew (Kurdish) 10.34
18 Jew (Azerbaijan) 10.78
19 Armenian (Lebanon) 11.07
20 Assyrian (Armenia) 11.19
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81% Samaritan (Israel) + 19% Jew (Georgia) @ 3.09
2 70.6% Samaritan (Israel) + 29.4% Druze (Mount_Carmel) @ 3.32
3 85.8% Samaritan (Israel) + 14.2% Armenian (Armenia) @ 3.56
4 67.9% Cypriot (Cyprus) + 32.1% Jew (Yemen) @ 3.57
5 65.6% Palestinian (Israel) + 34.4% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 3.67
6 89.7% Samaritan (Israel) + 10.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 3.71
7 91.8% Samaritan (Israel) + 8.2% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 3.74
8 62% Palestinian (Israel) + 38% Druze (Mount_Carmel) @ 3.82
9 88.7% Samaritan (Israel) + 11.3% Georgian (Laz) @ 3.92
10 81.1% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) + 18.9% Jew (Yemen) @ 3.95
11 77.9% Samaritan (Israel) + 22.1% Lebanese (Lebanon) @ 3.97
12 90.9% Samaritan (Israel) + 9.1% Azerbaijani (Baku) @ 4
13 85.4% Samaritan (Israel) + 14.6% Assyrian (Turkey) @ 4.01
14 90.8% Samaritan (Israel) + 9.2% Georgian (Georgia) @ 4.02
15 91.9% Samaritan (Israel) + 8.1% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 4.03
16 92.5% Samaritan (Israel) + 7.5% Abhkasian (Abkhasia) @ 4.04
17 58.6% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) + 41.4% Palestinian (Israel) @ 4.04
18 69.3% Palestinian (Israel) + 30.7% Jew (Iraqi) @ 4.06
19 73.5% Samaritan (Israel) + 26.5% Syrian (Syria) @ 4.06
20 90.9% Samaritan (Israel) + 9.1% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 4.09
marco
12-23-2019, 08:33 PM
You seem to have Berber admixture as your mtDNA is very Berber like and you seem to be Berber shifted. Nice Y-DNA btw. I am also Y-DNA T but mine T*. It seems do to Ariel trolling you tried to be defensive and became anti-Arab/Arabian, so this is the main reason why. Anyways it's nice to see your results. So far you, FairyQueen, and McCree proves him wrong. You don't seem to have much admixture from people of the Arabian pen, but you seem to have a recent Berber ancestry.
LOL
Kavkam
12-25-2019, 09:22 AM
samaritans are assyrians who converted to judaism so you're not jew
You're not exactly the pure Levantine or anything since that you're maternally of Berber origins, but autosomally speaking, you're genetically not much different from my results(predominately Levantine) apart on the fact that you have more recent North African/Maghrebi genetic admixture while I on the other hand have more Arabian and Egyptian admixture. Which proves my point on how Palestinians as a whole are genetically diverse as what Semitic Duwa said.
The guy's kit is still working
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.53
2 SW-Asian 26.37
3 Mediterranean 16.6
4 Baloch 12.99
5 E-African 5.96
6 Siberian 0.66
7 S-Indian 0.64
8 NE-Euro 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 jordanian (behar) 6.76
2 lebanese (behar) 7.49
3 palestinian (harappa) 7.72
4 syrian (behar) 8.73
5 palestinian (hgdp) 8.86
6 lebanese-muslim (haber) 11.61
7 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.69
8 lebanese-christian (haber) 13.76
9 samaritian (behar) 14.39
10 lebanese-druze (haber) 14.97
11 egypt (henn2012) 15.01
12 iraq-jew (behar) 15.1
13 egyptian (behar) 15.34
14 sephardic-jew (behar) 15.75
15 morocco-jew (behar) 16.07
16 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.35
17 cypriot (behar) 16.53
18 iranian-jew (behar) 17.08
19 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 17.12
20 armenian (harappa) 17.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% palestinian (harappa) + 12.6% tunisia (henn2012) @ 3.28
2 86.8% palestinian (harappa) + 13.2% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 3.85
3 74.7% iraq-jew (behar) + 25.3% saharawi (henn2012) @ 3.92
4 76.9% iraq-jew (behar) + 23.1% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.09
5 72.2% iranian-jew (behar) + 27.8% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.16
6 61.9% assyrian (harappa) + 38.1% libya (henn2012) @ 4.24
7 87.1% palestinian (harappa) + 12.9% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.31
8 86.3% palestinian (harappa) + 13.7% algeria (henn2012) @ 4.42
9 75.2% iraq-jew (behar) + 24.8% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 4.42
10 74.6% iranian-jew (behar) + 25.4% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.47
11 86.7% syrian (behar) + 13.3% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.54
12 87.4% palestinian (harappa) + 12.6% mozabite (hgdp) @ 4.55
13 60.5% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 39.5% libya (henn2012) @ 4.57
14 73.5% iraq-jew (behar) + 26.5% algeria (henn2012) @ 4.58
15 73.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 26.7% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.58
16 75.6% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 24.4% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.64
17 65% iranian-jew (behar) + 35% libya (henn2012) @ 4.71
18 68.1% iraq-jew (behar) + 31.9% libya (henn2012) @ 4.71
19 72.7% iranian-jew (behar) + 27.3% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 4.76
20 75% iraq-jew (behar) + 25% mozabite (hgdp) @ 4.8
He scores no West African.
These are yours
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.38
2 SW-Asian 23.12
3 Mediterranean 14.62
4 Baloch 12.82
5 E-African 3.04
6 NE-Euro 2.75
7 NE-Asian 1.23
8 S-Indian 1.17
9 Pygmy 0.82
10 W-African 0.5
11 Papuan 0.4
12 American 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 lebanese (behar) 3.44
2 palestinian (harappa) 5.05
3 syrian (behar) 5.38
4 jordanian (behar) 7.07
5 lebanese-muslim (haber) 7.35
6 iraqi-arab (harappa) 8.87
7 palestinian (hgdp) 9.73
8 lebanese-christian (haber) 10.2
9 lebanese-druze (haber) 10.97
10 iraq-jew (behar) 11.56
11 armenian (harappa) 12.43
12 cypriot (behar) 12.52
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.72
14 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.93
15 samaritian (behar) 13.42
16 iranian-jew (behar) 13.44
17 georgia-jew (behar) 14.03
18 sephardic-jew (behar) 14.27
19 turkish (harappa) 14.69
20 assyrian (harappa) 15.1
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% palestinian (harappa) + 24.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 2.05
2 91.7% palestinian (harappa) + 8.3% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.08
3 77.6% palestinian (harappa) + 22.4% morocco-jew (behar) @ 2.19
4 95.8% lebanese (behar) + 4.2% brahui (hgdp) @ 2.61
5 95.7% lebanese (behar) + 4.3% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.64
6 91.6% syrian (behar) + 8.4% sardinian (hgdp) @ 2.68
7 95.7% lebanese (behar) + 4.3% makrani (hgdp) @ 2.69
8 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% sindhi (hgdp) @ 2.72
9 96.2% lebanese (behar) + 3.8% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 2.73
10 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.76
11 96.3% lebanese (behar) + 3.7% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.77
12 96.4% lebanese (behar) + 3.6% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.77
13 96.1% lebanese (behar) + 3.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.79
14 96% lebanese (behar) + 4% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.79
15 96.4% lebanese (behar) + 3.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.8
16 96.2% lebanese (behar) + 3.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.81
17 96.5% lebanese (behar) + 3.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.82
18 96% lebanese (behar) + 4% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.83
19 97.3% lebanese (behar) + 2.7% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.83
20 95.9% lebanese (behar) + 4.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.83
Philo
09-24-2021, 10:47 PM
Well I'm just surprised Duwa did an analysis for u.
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