GEDmatch for a close cousin of Sikeliot.. 100% Palermo, Sicily

[Sikeliot]

This person is very closely related to me on One to Many matches. He is over 90 with all of his family from Palermo.

I highlighted noteworthy parts of his results.

Dodecad K12b:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.67
2 Atlantic_Med 24.82
3 Southwest_Asian 14.23
4 North_European 11.37
5 Gedrosia 6.93
6 Northwest_African 4.77
7 Sub_Saharan 0.53
8 South_Asian 0.44
9 East_African 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 5.04
2 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 5.11
3 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.66
4 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 5.87
5 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.87
6 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 9.05
7 Greek (Dodecad) 10.79
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.96
9 Cypriots (Behar) 14.16
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.09
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.86
12 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.07
13 Lebanese (Behar) 17.6
14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.25
15 Turks (Behar) 19.22
16 Syrians (Behar) 20.57
17 Druze (HGDP) 20.79
18 Jordanians (Behar) 21.62
19 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 23.16
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 23.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 7.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 1.87
2 57.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.3% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.94
3 93.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 6.3% Brahui (HGDP) @ 1.95
4 93.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 6.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.03
5 81.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 18.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.06
6 91.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.11
7 82.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 17.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.19
8 91.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.2
9 91.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.21
10 90.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.24
11 91% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.27
12 91.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.28
13 92.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 7.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.29
14 76.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.3
15 92.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 7.4% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.31
16 91.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 8.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.37
17 82% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 18% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.41
18 91% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.45
19 81.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.54
20 88.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 11.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.58



MDLP K23b:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.26
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.17
3 Near_East 12.96
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.42
5 South_Central_Asian 7.12
6 North_African 6.35
7 Subsaharian 1.03
8 Amerindian 0.85
9 Archaic_Human 0.53
10 South_Indian 0.21
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian_East ( ) 4.36
2 French_Jew ( ) 4.76
3 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 4.8
4 Turk_Jew ( ) 4.95
5 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 4.95
6 Italian_Jew ( ) 5.14
7 Ashkenazi ( ) 5.53
8 Cretan ( ) 5.55
9 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 5.75
10 Romanian_Jew ( ) 6.42
11 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 6.54
12 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 6.96
13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 7.43
14 Sicilian_West ( ) 7.63
15 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 7.92
16 Central_Greek ( ) 8.37
17 Syrian_Jew ( ) 8.37
18 Sicilian_Center ( ) 8.46
19 Greek ( ) 8.47
20 Maltese ( ) 8.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.9% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 20.1% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.8
2 77.5% Sicilian_West ( ) + 22.5% Druze ( ) @ 1.92
3 81.2% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 18.8% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 1.94
4 74.8% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) + 25.2% Lebanese_Druze ( ) @ 1.97
5 64.7% Sicilian_West ( ) + 35.3% Cypriot ( ) @ 1.98
6 81.3% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 18.7% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 2.01
7 85.3% Sicilian_East ( ) + 14.7% Iraki ( ) @ 2.01
8 74.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 25.2% Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.02
9 77.4% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 22.6% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.04
10 76.4% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) + 23.6% Iraqi_Jew ( ) @ 2.05
11 71.8% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 28.2% Iraqi_Jew ( ) @ 2.06
12 86.8% Sicilian_East ( ) + 13.2% Kurd_South ( ) @ 2.1
13 73.2% Sicilian_West ( ) + 26.8% Lebanese_Christian ( ) @ 2.1
14 70.1% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 29.9% Lebanese_Druze ( ) @ 2.12
15 60.3% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 39.7% Syrian_Jew ( ) @ 2.16
16 73.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 26.9% Lebanese_Druze ( ) @ 2.17
17 84.1% Sicilian_East ( ) + 15.9% Syrian ( ) @ 2.2
18 81% Sicilian_East ( ) + 19% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 2.21
19 87.4% Sicilian_East ( ) + 12.6% Kurd_East ( ) @ 2.21
20 81.5% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 18.5% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.21


Eurogenes K15:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.16
2 West_Med 17.99
3 West_Asian 15.92
4 Atlantic 14.43
5 Red_Sea 7.19
6 Baltic 6.26
7 North_Sea 4.85
8 Eastern_Euro 1.27
9 Northeast_African 1.19
10 Sub-Saharan 0.74

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.81
2 East_Sicilian 5.41
3 Sephardic_Jewish 5.94
4 Central_Greek 6.23
5 Italian_Jewish 6.88
6 Algerian_Jewish 7.28
7 West_Sicilian 8.1
8 Ashkenazi 8.14
9 Italian_Abruzzo 8.41
10 Tunisian_Jewish 9.83
11 Greek 10.86
12 Cyprian 11.8
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.94
14 Libyan_Jewish 13.39
15 Tuscan 13.71
16 Lebanese_Muslim 15.56
17 Syrian 16.5
18 Turkish 17.56
19 Samaritan 18.59
20 Bulgarian 19.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% Cyprian + 26.4% Southwest_French @ 2.93
2 69.7% Cyprian + 30.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.07
3 69.7% South_Italian + 30.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.11
4 81.5% South_Italian + 18.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.17
5 91.4% South_Italian + 8.6% Bedouin @ 3.21
6 94.6% South_Italian + 5.4% Saudi @ 3.29
7 71.7% Cyprian + 28.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.31
8 92.8% South_Italian + 7.2% Egyptian @ 3.32
9 89.8% South_Italian + 10.2% Syrian @ 3.34
10 73.3% Cyprian + 26.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.34
11 71.3% Cyprian + 28.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.34
12 77.8% Cyprian + 22.2% French_Basque @ 3.35
13 91.4% South_Italian + 8.6% Jordanian @ 3.35
14 71.2% Cyprian + 28.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.37
15 86.4% South_Italian + 13.6% Cyprian @ 3.37
16 91.9% South_Italian + 8.1% Palestinian @ 3.37
17 73% Cyprian + 27% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.37
18 91.3% South_Italian + 8.7% Samaritan @ 3.39
19 89.8% South_Italian + 10.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.4
20 95.4% South_Italian + 4.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.42


PuntDNA-L K13:
# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 38.22
2 West_Asia 25.55
3 SW_Asia 18.15
4 NE_Europe 13.6
5 East_Africa 1.41
6 West_Africa 1.07
7 Americas 0.89
8 South_Asia 0.68
9 NE_Asia 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Sicilian 3.17
2 Sephardic_Jew 3.26
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 4.21
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.79
5 Greek_Central 9.46
6 Cypriot 10.72
7 Turkish 13.88
8 Greek_Thessaly 14.42
9 Albanian 15.04
10 Syrian 15.65
11 Lebanese_Christian 15.69
12 Turkish_Kayseri 15.79
13 Lebanese_Druze 16.33
14 Italian_Tuscan 16.34
15 Kosovar 16.34
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.2
17 Jordanian 17.21
18 Turkish_Aydin 17.39
19 Palestinian 19.93
20 Bulgarian 21.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.7% Italian_Sicilian + 14.3% Jordanian @ 1.39
2 88.3% Italian_Sicilian + 11.7% Samaritan_Jew @ 1.39
3 87.5% Italian_Sicilian + 12.5% Palestinian @ 1.43
4 85.1% Italian_Sicilian + 14.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.59
5 85.2% Italian_Sicilian + 14.8% Syrian @ 1.64
6 91.7% Italian_Sicilian + 8.3% Yemeni @ 1.64
7 86.4% Italian_Sicilian + 13.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.68
8 90.4% Italian_Sicilian + 9.6% Egyptian_Copts @ 1.71
9 85.9% Italian_Sicilian + 14.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.72
10 93.5% Italian_Sicilian + 6.5% Saudi @ 1.78
11 94.5% Italian_Sicilian + 5.5% Bedouin @ 1.88
12 80.7% Italian_Sicilian + 19.3% Cypriot @ 1.92
13 90.7% Italian_Sicilian + 9.3% Egyptian @ 1.92
14 51.2% Italian_Sicilian + 48.8% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.05
15 69.6% Lebanese_Christian + 30.4% French_Basque @ 2.14
16 67.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.4% French_Basque @ 2.18
17 90.5% Italian_Sicilian + 9.5% Assyrian @ 2.22
18 68.7% Lebanese_Druze + 31.3% French_Basque @ 2.24
19 91.2% Italian_Sicilian + 8.8% Armenian @ 2.41
20 88.1% Ashkenazy_Jew + 11.9% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.49


Eurasia K9 ASI:
# Population Percent
1 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 27.72
2 SW_Asian 25.08
3 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 20
4 WHG 19.99
5 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 4.53
6 W_African 1.44
7 Ancestral_South_Indian 1.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Maltese 4.98
2 Sicilian 5.96
3 Greek 10.09
4 Albanian 11.93
5 Tuscan 12.47
6 Cypriot 12.84
7 Turkish 14.62
8 Lebanese 16.82
9 Bulgarian 17.71
10 Druze 18.24
11 Syrian 18.32
12 Jordanian 18.84
13 Armenian 20.58
14 Kumyk 21.14
15 Georgian_Jew 21.4
16 Iraqi_Jew 21.51
17 Adygei 21.71
18 Spanish 22.16
19 Azeri 22.36
20 Iranian_Jew 23.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Druze + 45.1% Spanish @ 2.01
2 50.8% Iraqi_Jew + 49.2% Spanish @ 2.13
3 60.8% Albanian + 39.2% Syrian @ 2.13
4 72.1% Greek + 27.9% BedouinA @ 2.13
5 59.7% Tuscan + 40.3% Syrian @ 2.18
6 63% Lebanese + 37% French_South @ 2.27
7 57% Lebanese + 43% Spanish @ 2.34
8 61% Druze + 39% French_South @ 2.39
9 61.5% Albanian + 38.5% Jordanian @ 2.41
10 77.8% Greek + 22.2% Yemenite_Jew @ 2.5
11 61.8% Lebanese + 38.2% French @ 2.56
12 60.5% Tuscan + 39.5% Jordanian @ 2.63
13 58.8% Albanian + 41.2% Lebanese @ 2.64
14 59.8% Druze + 40.2% French @ 2.67
15 78.1% Cypriot + 21.9% Lithuanian @ 2.72
16 75.7% Cypriot + 24.3% Belarusian @ 2.8
17 78.2% Cypriot + 21.8% Estonian @ 2.8
18 65.8% Greek + 34.2% Jordanian @ 2.81
19 67.2% Cypriot + 32.8% Croatian @ 2.83
20 72.8% Cypriot + 27.2% Czech @ 2.84



Near Eaat Neolithic K13:
# Population Percent
1 CHG_EEF 33.07
2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 20.3
3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 17.93
4 NATUFIAN 16.17
5 SHG_WHG 5.43
6 EHG 3.26
7 SUB_SAHARAN 2.36
8 KARITIANA 0.86
9 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.47
10 SIBERIAN 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Ashkenazi 5.37
2 Sicilian 5.75
3 Italian_South 7.18
4 Jew_Moroccan 8.23
5 Greek 8.88
6 Cypriot 10.56
7 Turkish_Istanbul 10.68
8 Turkish 11.37
9 Albanian 12.19
10 Turkish_Adana 13.24
11 Turkish_Kayseri 14.03
12 Turkish_Balekesir 14.09
13 Jew_Tunisian 14.18
14 Jew_Libyan 14.58
15 Turkish_Aydin 14.71
16 Lebanese 16.1
17 Turkish_Trabzon 16.64
18 Bulgarian 16.67
19 Armenian 18.01
20 Druze 18.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.2% Sicilian + 23.8% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.61
2 77.7% Sicilian + 22.3% Armenian @ 2.61
3 80.4% Sicilian + 19.6% Assyrian @ 2.8
4 65.3% Greek + 34.7% Lebanese @ 2.83
5 92.8% Jew_Ashkenazi + 7.2% Iran_ChL @ 2.87
6 94.5% Sicilian + 5.5% Iran_LN @ 2.9
7 94.5% Sicilian + 5.5% Iran_N @ 2.9
8 80.8% Sicilian + 19.2% Jew_Iranian @ 2.96
9 54.8% Greek + 45.2% Cypriot @ 3.05
10 85.5% Sicilian + 14.5% Kurd_C @ 3.12
11 84.4% Sicilian + 15.6% Iranian_Lori @ 3.14
12 86.9% Sicilian + 13.1% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 3.16
13 91% Jew_Ashkenazi + 9% Iran_recent @ 3.19
14 81% Sicilian + 19% Jew_iraqi @ 3.2
15 70.2% Greek + 29.8% Jordanian @ 3.22
16 81.9% Sicilian + 18.1% Georgian @ 3.27
17 69.7% Greek + 30.3% Syrian @ 3.27
18 90% Jew_Ashkenazi + 10% Armenia_MLBA @ 3.3
19 71.1% Greek + 28.9% Jew_iraqi @ 3.34
20 68.5% Greek + 31.5% Druze @ 3.37

[Teucer]

It's amazing how similar Sicilians are to Jewish people. The only thing I don't understand is how they are this related. I can't think of any historical event which would cause such a commonality. Are Sicilians related to Jewish people because of their similar genetic combinations, or is their a direct line of ancestry of both peoples?

[Iloko]

'Caucasus' is his/her's highest component!

What about for a Spaniard..I wonder if Caucasus/SW-Asian/etc would signal Phoenecian/Jewish/Greek/Roman/Arabic admixture? https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml

[Sikeliot]

It's amazing how similar Sicilians are to Jewish people. The only thing I don't understand is how they are this related. I can't think of any historical event which would cause such a commonality. Are Sicilians related to Jewish people because of their similar genetic combinations, or is their a direct line of ancestry of both peoples?

Both Sicilians and European Jews are a mixture of Italic, Greek, and Levantine. There were in fact assimilated Jews in Sicily but they were just one of many groups there.

The way to understand Sicily, more or less, is that the northeast of the island is closest to Dodecanese, southeast is closest to southern Greeks, and the rest of the island is close to different Jewish groups. Despite some people thinking otherwise, I don't find Sicilians to look very different from western Jews.

[Sikeliot]

'Caucasus' is his/her's highest component!

What about for a Spaniard..I wonder if Caucasus/SW-Asian/etc would signal Phoenecian/Jewish/Greek/Roman/Arabic admixture? https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml


Nearly all Sicilians score Caucasus as their highest component.

For Spaniards, Caucasian input is much lower. I am unsure what it would signal but most likely Greek, Roman, or Phoenician input.

[Teucer]

Both Sicilians and European Jews are a mixture of Italic, Greek, and Levantine. There were in fact assimilated Jews in Sicily but they were just one of many groups there.

The way to understand Sicily, more or less, is that the northeast of the island is closest to Dodecanese, southeast is closest to southern Greeks, and the rest of the island is close to different Jewish groups. Despite some people thinking otherwise, I don't find Sicilians to look very different from western Jews.

So they only appear to be related because they have similar ancestry combinations, not that they were once the same people but then broke off from one another?

[Sikeliot]

So they only appear to be related because they have similar ancestry combinations, not that they were once the same people but then broke off from one another?

Yes. The relationship between Sicilians and Jews is comparable to the following:

You have two sisters, A and B. You have two brothers, C and D.

Sister A has a child with brother C. This would be Sicilians.
Sister B has a child with brother D. This would be Jews.

These two hypothetical children would not have the same parents, but nearly identical inputs.

[Bobby Martnen]

I don't really think they look at all alike, even though they're very genetically close.

IMHO, Sicilians have darker complexions but more western facial features than Ashkenazic Jews

[Sikeliot]

I don't really think they look at all alike, even though they're very genetically close.

IMHO, Sicilians have darker complexions but more western facial features than Ashkenazic Jews

I think it depends on where on the island. I think the Palermo/Caltanissetta/Agrigento area they do genuinely look like Ashkenazim. The east coast they look like various types of Greeks, more like islanders in the north and Peloponnesians in the south. The region with the most 'western' types is probably Trapani but even there, the Levantine input is higher than it is in the east.

[Bobby Martnen]

I think it depends on where on the island. I think the Palermo/Caltanissetta/Agrigento area they do genuinely look like Ashkenazim. The east coast they look like various types of Greeks, more like islanders in the north and Peloponnesians in the south. The region with the most 'western' types is probably Trapani but even there, the Levantine input is higher than it is in the east.

They really don't look similar to me. Rates of light eyes and hair are way higher in Ashkenazim than any Sicilian or South Italian group. That said, Ashkenazim have more eastern looking facial features to me
Ashkenazi:
http://mm-group.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/MichaelBolton_01.jpg
Sicilian:
https://www.icorn.org/sites/default/files/styles/image_main/public/field/image/default_2280_6301781576_0.jpeg?itok=LFhq5vz0

[Leto]

It's amazing how similar Sicilians are to Jewish people. The only thing I don't understand is how they are this related. I can't think of any historical event which would cause such a commonality. Are Sicilians related to Jewish people because of their similar genetic combinations, or is their a direct line of ancestry of both peoples?
Some say Jewish men took Northern Italian wives and converted them in the 1st millennium A.D. Actually if you model the Ashkenazim as a mix of Samaritans and Tuscans (see GEDmatch results), the mix would come out surprisingly similar to Jews.

[Leto]

They really don't look similar to me. Rates of light eyes and hair are way higher in Ashkenazim than any Sicilian or South Italian group. That said, Ashkenazim have more eastern looking facial features to me
Ashkenazi:

Sicilian:
The former man looks significantly whiter than the latter.

[Sikeliot]

Here is his Eurogenes K36 similarity.

https://i.imgur.com/P3gwPSU.png
https://i.imgur.com/NNaMdKS.png
https://i.imgur.com/oKgBLsC.png

[Sp_loa]

It is amazing to see how jews are genetically related to Sicilians. I also think that Sicilians look very similar to Jews. Although European Jews often have whiter vibe.. I wonder what makes the difference.

I mean I usually get South-central Italian or central-northern greek (rather than sicilian) as a close population in gedmatch (and even in other tests like DNA.land I have huge trunk of South Italian in addition to Iberian,South-Slavic, Levantine and Amazigh)..

But I don't think I could pass as a typical sicilian. I almost look like a textbook Alpinid (round head shape and straight-upturned nose) but I can see some little Mediterranid(Pontid? East Mediterranid?) effect on my face. I might be uploading a picture of myself to here when I'll be old enough(I hope in two years. my face change really fast at the moment). If you like I can send you some pictures of family members(Full Sephardi like me) in PM so you could classify them and say if they pass in sicily or anywhere else.