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Token
11-15-2017, 03:36 PM
The southern part of Brazil, including both the southeastern and southern regions, is distinguishable by its heavily European and Western-based culture with a significant extra-Portuguese European influence, with the southeastern being the region that underwent the heaviest Italian influence, more specifically North Italian as the great majority of the immigrants came from Veneto and adjacent regions, and the south showing a pride in their German heritage brought by immigrants during the XIX and XX century.

Post pictures and anything related to the culture of the south of Brazil.

Rua Das Missões - Blumenau, SC

https://guardemais.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/blumenau-self-storage.png

Gramado, RS

http://televansbh.com.br/WP1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gramado-rs.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.temporadalivre.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Gramado-p%C3%B3rtico_menor-1.jpg?fit=1072%2C712&ssl=1

http://www.gramado.rs.gov.br/admin/arquivos/turista/galeria/crop_13_14082015152830.jpg

http://www.vivergramado.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/gramado-rs-borges-de-medeiros.jpg

Igreja de São Francisco da Penitência, RJ (Baroque Art)

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lpK2i4CreK0/TnzUPgAOBxI/AAAAAAAAKEg/YmA13R-sIIQ/s640/799px-Rio-Igreja-Penitencia4.jpg

https://acervodigital.unesp.br/bitstream/unesp/141165/1/rj_iotsfp_001.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Detalhe_interior_Igreja_de_S%C3%A3o_Francisco.JPG/1280px-Detalhe_interior_Igreja_de_S%C3%A3o_Francisco.JPG

Token
11-15-2017, 03:51 PM
Catedral da Sé - São Paulo, SP (Gothic Architecture)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Catedral_da_S%C3%A9_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo.JPG

http://www.traveltheworldfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Sao-Paulo-the-largest-city-in-Brazil.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Catedral_da_S%C3%A9%2C_S%C3%A3o_Paulo.jpg

Igreja de São Francisco de Assis - Ouro Preto, MG

https://lugaresinesqueciveis.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/img_4454.jpg

https://www.arcaffo.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/igreja-s%C3%A3o-francisco-3.jpg

http://www.ouropreto.com.br/uploads/portal_ouropreto_2014/secoes/c97fdc3cc79d9fec9cb9c752cf4d0454840951bc.jpg

Maria Fumaça - Tiradentes, MG

https://abrilviagemeturismo.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/maria-fumaca-que-sai-de-tiradentes-e-vai-ate-sao-joao-del-rey-em-minas-gerais.jpeg?quality=70&strip=info&w=920

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/LocomotivaTiradentesMG.jpg/800px-LocomotivaTiradentesMG.jpg

Token
11-15-2017, 04:00 PM
D. Pedro I monument - Praça Tiradentes, RJ

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Monumento_%C3%A0_D._Pedro_I.jpg

Independence monument - Ipiranga, SP

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Altar_da_P%C3%A1tria%2C_Monumento_%C3%A0_Independ% C3%AAncia.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Monumento_%C3%A0_Independ%C3%AAncia_04.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Monumento_%C3%A0_Independ%C3%AAncia_do_Brasil_-_S%C3%A3o_Paulo%2C_Brasil.jpg

Cristo Redentor - Rio de Janeiro, RJ

http://www.1zoom.me/big2/341/320917-alexfas01.jpg

http://www.rioculturalsecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/city-tour-corcovado-and-sugar-loaf.jpg?x81371

http://amazingplacespics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/christ-the-redeemer-rio-de-janeiro-christ-the-redeemed-buckets-lists-janeiro-brazil-rio-de.jpg

JMack
11-15-2017, 04:02 PM
South-Southeastern Brazil is the only part of the country that could reasonably said to be ''Western''.

Token
11-15-2017, 04:08 PM
South-Southeastern Brazil is the only part of the country that could reasonably said to be ''Western''.

I agree, the others regions have so much non-European cultural influence to be included in the Western world. The architecture and population mindset is also very distinct.

JMack
11-15-2017, 04:10 PM
I agree, the others regions have so much non-European cultural influence to be included in the Western world, the architecture is also very distinct.

Yeah, but I think the elites there at least belong to the ''West'' (most of them are white or predominantly Euro). There's no sense to say someone who's full Portuguese or nearly full isn't ''Western''.

Bolsonaro2018
11-15-2017, 04:20 PM
Great thread! Finally a decent thread in our section, I'll start with my favorite state in SE Brazil


Campos do Jordão

http://brazilimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tour-Guide-Campos-do-Jordao.jpg

https://cdn.guiadecamposdojordao.com.br/imgs/20160809150644/home-green-hime-campos-do-jordao.jpg

https://www.pousadaaltodaboavista.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/noite-campos-do-jordao-1200x700.jpg

Holambra

http://www.trintaeumas.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20160829-holambra-muito-mais-que-a-holanda-brasileira-1.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/images2.holambrense.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/holambra-expoflora-sentido-obrigatc3b3tio-aventuras-6-1495758340.jpg

Old Downtown

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8438/8015593081_e3431def33_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8294/7728611804_94442a0871_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2560/4038442854_f212c499b4_b.jpg

Cantareira Mountain

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/8161384.jpg

Ouro Preto

https://spguia.melhoresdestinos.com.br/system/fotos_local/fotos/34386/show/vista-da-ladeira-que-leva-a-igreja-de-sao-francisco-de-paula.jpg

Batatais (uncles living there)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3818/9296166386_4929445455_b.jpg


Petrópolis

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Pal%C3%A1cio_Quitandinha%2C_Petr%C3%B3polis.jpg/800px-Pal%C3%A1cio_Quitandinha%2C_Petr%C3%B3polis.jpg

Southern Brazil!

Rock's Cathedral

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/8817632312_6bfbe11c90_b.jpg


Curitiba

https://catracalivre.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/jardim_botanico_2010_2163.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q1wto7S.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4BBgprDvqmc/TQAzPakr1MI/AAAAAAAAAdI/fgktIfpI6tk/s1600/cal%C3%A7ad%C3%A3o_rua_das_flores.JPG

Countryside

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7606/16681098388_966363590f_b.jpg

Pato Branco

http://i.imgur.com/ZZ1Bhya.jpg

Blumenau

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2515/3818004212_41fda2f300_b.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Blumenau-1.jpg

KMack
11-15-2017, 04:23 PM
Very nice photos, well done!

Black Panther
11-15-2017, 04:34 PM
Carnival in São Paulo.

http://manaproducoes.com.br/novosite/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Brasil-Carnaval-SP-Mocidade-Alegre-Anhembi-Sambodromo.jpg

Carnival in Porto Alegre.

http://s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2016/02/10/deflie_ricardo_giusti_pmpa_2.jpg

Cathedral interior in Curitiba.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lMZ8fQ-gRMs/V8976E65JlI/AAAAAAAACaI/k6PQqmW6X5MrH6KKCpNaxBruM3Z_aHaYQCLcB/s1600/20160723135449_FAO__DSC0725blog.jpg

Afro-Brazilian Museum in São Paulo.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Museu_Afro_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Museu_Afro_Brasil.jpg

Immigrant museum in São Paulo.

http://www.saopaulo.sp.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/old/14995/74016.jpg

Curitiba.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/icf/pages/380/attachments/original/1462461929/pr11.jpg?1462461929

São Paulo.

http://foundtheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Sao-Paulo-Brazil-5.jpg

Rio de Janeiro.

https://www.ahstatic.com/photos/1988_hofh_00_p_2560x1440.jpg

Balneário Camboriu.

https://orienteviagens.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/balneario-camboriu.jpg

Porto Alegre.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Porto-alegre-centro.jpg

Bus in Porto Alegre.

http://portal.brasilalemanha.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Porto-Alegre-Shopping-Total-Foto-Cristine-Rochol-barra-PMPA-imagem133449-4.jpg

Token
11-15-2017, 04:55 PM
Languages of the South

Besides Portuguese, there are others languages that were brought to Brazil and developed here under influence of various distinct dialects, inclunding the standard Portuguese, and they are spoken exclusively in the southern fringes of the country. Here are they with a brief description.

Talian

Talian is a dialect of the Venetian language, spoken primarily in the Serra Gaúcha region in the northeast of the state of Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil. It is also spoken in other parts of Rio Grande do Sul, as well as in parts of Espirito Santo and of Santa Catarina. Despite the similar names, Talian is not derived from standard Italian (usually called italiano gramático or "grammatical Italian" in Brazil), but is mainly a mix of Venetian dialects influenced by other Gallo-Italian languages as well as local Portuguese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gASt0urMNDM&t=88s

Hunsrückisch Riograndeser

Hunsrückisch is a German dialect spoken in the Hunsrück region of Germany. This mountainous region of Germany has long been an exporter of emigrants to the United States, Brazil, Canada, Australia and other parts of the world. It's now spoken by German descendants in Rio Grande do Sul and others southern areas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuk8nvW8b8

Pomeranian

Pomeranian or Pommeranisch is a dialect of Low Saxon spoken by the Pomeranians and their descendants here in Brazil, specially in Espírito Santo. The language is almost extinct in Pomerania but is still alive and common in Southern Brazil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFPPoJzYa0

Marinus
11-15-2017, 04:59 PM
Some pictures of my hometown in Brazil, Curitiba. The European heritage in the city and state in general is far less German and Dutch but more Italian and Slav, mainly Ukranian and Polish. Other distinct ethnicities are Japanese, Lebanese and Syrian. The more "Brazilian" ethnicities are Paraná-born people from the countryside, people from São Paulo state and people from Bahia state.

Bosque Alemão (literally "German Grove" or "Garden")
https://i.imgur.com/RxlYgwy.png


Memorial Ucraniano
https://i.imgur.com/pmBc83f.png

Parque Tanguá
https://i.imgur.com/7iKa1eh.png
From the top of the waterfall, at night.
https://i.imgur.com/gXOtuFD.png

Opera de Arame
https://i.imgur.com/lyp2fHn.png

Palacío Avenida
https://i.imgur.com/URYrpoc.png
At Christmas
http://amrturismo.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/CAPA.jpg



https://www.flickr.com/photos/parchen/4772206590/in/album-72157625089822158/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/parchen/5746519507/in/album-72157625089822158/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/parchen/6570987949/in/album-72157625089822158/

Token
11-15-2017, 05:12 PM
Maringá Cathedral, the second tallest monument in Latin America - Maringá, PR

http://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/ra/media/Pub/GP/p3/2012/10/04/VidaCidadania/Imagens/catedral071008.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Cathedral_of_Maring%C3%A1_02_2007_8712.JPG

https://gds.portal5g-media.com/contentFiles/system/pictures/2013/7/84119/original/catedral-de-maringa.jpg

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/76/cd/eb/the-cathedral-at-night.jpg

Oktoberfest - Blumenau, SC

https://bardocelso.com/bar/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Oktoberfest-Blumenau.jpg?x20585

https://content.skyscnr.com/1f8de13a330e461f3a2078a27f01ba58/with_credits_to_oktoberfestblumenau.jpg?resize=800 px:99999px&quality=75

http://chefcomcerveja.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/OKTOBERFEST-NO-BRASIL.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-776mTBnAixw/VrtHr6a4y_I/AAAAAAAADQI/RnCVqRjlkTY/s1600/oktoberfest-blumenau.jpg

Black Panther
11-15-2017, 05:21 PM
Haven't been to a Brazilian Oktoberfest yet. Might be going there year. :thumb001:

Marinus
11-15-2017, 05:37 PM
Rua das Flores
https://i.imgur.com/NWdj8vF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gTPHiP2.png

Parque Tingui, where the Ukranian Memorial is located.
https://i.imgur.com/Mhj9WLe.jpg

Token
11-15-2017, 05:42 PM
Rock Cathedral - Canela, RS (Gothic Architecture)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Catedral_de_Pedra_Canela_001.jpeg/800px-Catedral_de_Pedra_Canela_001.jpeg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Catedral_de_Pedra_Torre.jpeg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Catedral_Nossa_Senhora_de_Lourdes.JPG/1280px-Catedral_Nossa_Senhora_de_Lourdes.JPG

Caraça Sanctuary - Santa Bárbara, MG

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/05/2a/09/f6/santuario-do-caraca.jpg

https://soubh-imagens.s3.amazonaws.com/media/uploaded_images/imprensa/Vista_Santu%C3%A1rio_do_Cara%C3%A7a_MG-20140906151440.jpg

http://revistasagarana.com.br/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/destaques-40-caraca-1-620x413.jpg

http://www.defatoonline.com.br/noticias/img/noticias/foto_05022013145554.jpg

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-15-2017, 06:30 PM
Brazil - Rio Grande do Sul

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/young-men-and-women-boys-and-girls-teenagers-wearing-traditional-picture-id527442334
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/A6W5E3/gauchos-wearing-typical-clothes-state-rio-grande-do-sul-brazil-sunny-A6W5E3.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-gaucho-in-the-fields-of-rio-grande-do-sul-brazil-picture-id839935862
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-gaucho-gathering-the-sheep-rio-grande-do-sul-brazil-picture-id839938644
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/a6/df/18a6df2edb780761fd28d81039aeed10.jpg
https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/29/139029-004-4A48E977.jpg
http://delivery.gettyimages.com/xr/527442868.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=3&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D0ECD041EBCC06E5A1 C4699CCD9EE7E7DE9D297EC07C2CE85AA55A1E4F32AD3138
http://www.todacancha.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Mano-Lima.jpg

Token
11-15-2017, 06:37 PM
Ilha Fiscal (roughly Fiscal Island) - Rio de Janeiro, RJ (Gothic Architecture)

http://mapadecultura.rj.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RIO_ilha_fiscal_IKA9541.jpg

https://gds.portal5g-media.com/contentFiles/system/pictures/2014/4/112068/original/2-ilha-fiscal.jpg

Petrópolis Cathedral - Petrópolis, RJ (Gothic Architecture)

https://abrilviagemeturismo.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/catedral-de-petropolis-rio-de-janeiro.jpeg?quality=70&strip=info&w=928

http://brasil.estadao.com.br/blogs/radar-pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/77/2013/01/petropolis.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/res.cloudinary.com/aleteia/image/fetch/c_fill,g_auto/https://aleteiaportuguese.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/catedral-petrc3b3polis-ilum.jpg?resize=0%2C0&quality=100&strip=all&ssl=1

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Petropolis-Cathedral3.jpg

Bell Beaker
11-15-2017, 06:41 PM
Lovely pictures, Token and others! :thumb001:

Interesting that people here include states like Minas Gerais, Espirito Santo or Rio de Janeiro as part of a region that is the only one that could be considered "Western", aren't MG and RJ basicaly extentions of the Northeast with maybe a slight more Euro input?

I've read that the Center-West (Mato Grosso, Goiás....) is very Colonial Portuguese.

JMack
11-15-2017, 06:49 PM
Interesting that people here include states like Minas Gerais, Espirito Santo or Rio de Janeiro as part of a region that is the only one that could be considered "Western", aren't MG and RJ basicaly extentions of the Northeast with maybe a slight more Euro input?


No. Minas Gerais is basically Colonial Portuguese with few Italians + Pardos and Blacks, but many of the ''whites'' there are full or nearly full European. Espírito Santo have many recent European settlers and like Rio and Minas Gerais many regions are predominantly White. These three states are kinda transitional between ''Pardo'' Brazil and ''White'' Brazil. They can vary depending on the region, but they are significantly more Euro than the Northeast. Rio is only very Black in the capital city and surrounding areas, the rest of the state is less africanized. Minas Gerais is predominantly White in the South and mixed-tri-racial in the North, it's like a microcosm of Brazil.

Token
11-15-2017, 06:59 PM
Lovely pictures, Token and others! :thumb001:

Interesting that people here include states like Minas Gerais, Espirito Santo or Rio de Janeiro as part of a region that is the only one that could be considered "Western", aren't MG and RJ basicaly extentions of the Northeast with maybe a slight more Euro input?

I've read that the Center-West (Mato Grosso, Goiás....) is very Colonial Portuguese.

Thanks. :thumb001:
Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and Espírito Santo are oficially part of the southeast region, together with São Paulo, that yes, is mostly a geopolitical division, but is also characterized by a distinct culture, vegetation and even climate. Center-West and even the Northeast have a lot of colonial Portuguese influence but they were so much influenced by indigenous and African culture and this is visible in toponym, dialectal variations, folklore and even genetics. In a genetic sense, the most European region of Brazil is the South followed by the Southeast and then the Center-West and those north of them. The recent European migrations certainly played a role in the cultural 'Europeanization' of the south (in the broader sense, including the southeast, like we are using in this thread), Italians that visit Brazil says that they feel at home in São Paulo, specially the non-metropolitan regions, and the same is true for Germans in the south.

Bell Beaker
11-15-2017, 07:02 PM
No. Minas Gerais is basically Colonial Portuguese with few Italians + Pardos and Blacks, but many of the ''whites'' there are full or nearly full European. Espírito Santo have many recent European settlers and like Rio and Minas Gerais many regions are predominantly White. These three states are kinda transitional between ''Pardo'' Brazil and ''White'' Brazil. They can vary depending on the region, but they are significantly more Euro than the Northeast. Rio is only very Black in the capital city, the rest of the state is less africanized. Minas Gerais is predominantly White in the South and mixed-tri-racial in the North, it's like a microcosm of Brazil.

That's interesting, when I came to this forum, I thought that most Brazilians were like balanced tri racials and that the SSA and Native American would be more significant. This has to do with Brazilian national teams and famous football players that I was used to see and to appreciate in my childhood and also due to two girls in my class who were very dark and unmistakabely SSA influenced.

Seems like that if you join all 210 million Brazilians into one person and perform a genetic test in that case, you will have something like this.

http://i.imgur.com/jl3yYDD.jpg

JMack
11-15-2017, 07:18 PM
That's interesting, when I came to this forum, I thought that most Brazilians were like balanced tri racials and that the SSA and Native American would be more significant.

That's the perception everyone have of Brazil around the world. Everytime I said I was Brazilian when travelling some people were surprised. Some guys even asked for passport and said I was faking it. They think there are no whites in Brazil, lol.

But I thought Portuguese would know better, since Brazilian novelas are exhibited in Portugal and most actors are whites.

Token
11-15-2017, 07:18 PM
Archeological Site São Miguel Arcanjo - São Miguel das Missões, RS

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Petropolis-Cathedral3.jpg

http://portaldasmissoes.com.br/uploads/empreendimentos/406/0069560_regular_zzz.jpg

http://www.saomiguel-rs.com.br/Arquivos/420/Conte%C3%BAdos/2066/7%20-%20Cruz%20Missioneira%20e%20Fachada%20da%20Igreja% 20DSC_0023_288F.JPG

Laçador - Porto Alegre, RS

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a621d4_bb83ee504ef543858994baed162a74d3~mv2.jpg

https://garfosequartos.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/monumento-lac3a7ador.jpg

https://familiagemeli.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/o-lac3a7ador_01.jpg

Bell Beaker
11-15-2017, 07:18 PM
Thanks. :thumb001:
Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and Espírito Santo are oficially part of the southeast region, together with São Paulo, that yes, is mostly a geopolitical division, but is also characterized by a distinct culture, vegetation and even climate. Center-West and even the Northeast have a lot of colonial Portuguese influence but they were so much influenced by indigenous and African culture and this is visible in toponym, dialectal variations, folklore and even genetics. In a genetic sense, the most European region of Brazil is the South followed by the Southeast and then the Center-West and those north of them. The recent European migrations certainly played a role in the cultural 'Europeanization' of the south (in the broader sense, including the southeast, like we are using in this thread), Italians that visit Brazil says that they feel at home in São Paulo, specially the non-metropolitan regions, and the same is true for Germans in the south.

Oh yeah, I know that inland São Paulo state is very European (geneticaly speaking) but at the same time they have a lot of Amerindian toponyms, legacy of the Bandeirantes who spoke more Tupi than Portuguese. Sometimes corelating Genetics with culture might be wrong or inaccurate, for example in Roman times, a Briton and a Berber north african had nothing in common ancestraly speaking but they shared a lot of cultural aspects due to Roman citzenship.

Culture is something subjective though and it depends on the perspetive, on the eyes of someone from outside who never set a foot in Brazil, all brazilians are the same because they speak the same language and are traditionaly Christian. Religion and Language defines a culture.

Token
11-15-2017, 07:21 PM
The Laçador remembers me the Arminius statue. It's interesting considering the strong Germanic legacy present in the south and southeast.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e4/77/2e/e4772efbeeceb4f17ac4684ecb2e1c1e--roman-legion-roman-history.jpg

Bell Beaker
11-15-2017, 07:27 PM
That's the perception everyone have of Brazil around the world. Everytime I said I was Brazilian when travelling some people were surprised. Some guys even asked for passport and said I was faking it. They think there are no whites in Brazil, lol.

But I thought Portuguese would know better, since Brazilian novelas are exhibited in Portugal and most actors are whites.

Well, in a way we are more aware of what it happens in Brazil, Monday in the radio when I was coming home, they talked about a massacre in a Brazilian prison which didn't even kill 5 persons, as It wasn't of gigantic proportions in let's say Argentina, Iraq or China I think it would not even appear on Radio, so we have more news on Brazil more frequently then people might think.

But usualy most Males only watched 1 or 2 novels with the family when we were younger so we didn't have much expertise in that, Funk is popular here (unfortunately), and most Funk singers are Favelados, and most Brazilians living here are Nordestinos with obvious SSA influence so people have a misconcepted image of your country.

Token
11-15-2017, 07:31 PM
Oh yeah, I know that inland São Paulo state is very European (geneticaly speaking) but at the same time they have a lot of Amerindian toponyms, legacy of the Bandeirantes who spoke more Tupi than Portuguese. Sometimes corelating Genetics with culture might be wrong or inaccurate, for example in Roman times, a Briton and a Berber north african had nothing in common ancestraly speaking but they shared a lot of cultural aspects due to Roman citzenship.

Culture is something subjective though and it depends on the perspetive, on the eyes of someone from outside who never set a foot in Brazil, all brazilians are the same because they speak the same language and are traditionaly Christian. Religion and Language defines a culture.

Yes, some people have that uninformed view but remember that Brazil is enormous and, alone, is larger than all European countries together so you can expect a huge cultural gap between the regions. Non-European toponym is present in Brazil, even in the southern regions to a lesser extent, but is also common in Iberia and this doesn't means nothing in reality.

Bell Beaker
11-15-2017, 07:34 PM
Yes, some people have that uninformed view but remember that Brazil is enormous and, alone, is larger than all European countries together so you can expect a huge cultural gap between the regions. Non-European toponym is present in Brazil but is also common in Iberia and this doesn't means nothing in reality.

I know, culturaly speaking do you and the inhabitants of your area/state feel more connected with the North/Northeast or with Uruguay/Argentina?

Token
11-15-2017, 07:40 PM
I know, culturaly speaking do you and the inhabitants of your area/state feel more connected with the North/Northeast or with Uruguay/Argentina?

Wow, this is a hard question, but what i know for sure is that people from there feel culturally closer to Europeans and others westerners than to northerners. In my case, i grew up in a city where almost everyone had recent German ancestry, and they naturally feel closer to Germans specifically, Ouroboros can tell you better about the southeast.

Token
11-15-2017, 07:58 PM
Monument in homage to Ramos de Azevedo - Cidade Universitária USP, SP
It shows clearly influences of proper German architecture and resembles the statue of William in Kolbenz, Germany, reflecting the Germanic cultural legacy present in the south.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Webysther_20160331120144_-_Monumento_a_Ramos_de_Azevedo_%28corte%29.jpg/800px-Webysther_20160331120144_-_Monumento_a_Ramos_de_Azevedo_%28corte%29.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Webysther_20160331120144_-_Monumento_a_Ramos_de_Azevedo.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Monumento_a_Ramos_de_Azevedo_-_Trabalhadores.JPG

Bolsonaro2018
11-15-2017, 08:29 PM
http://www.defatoonline.com.br/noticias/img/noticias/foto_05022013145554.jpg

This picture is fantastic, what city is this? I wish know Minas Gerais, it is one of my favorite states, much colonial influence.

Others

Diamantina

https://www.essemundoenosso.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/diamantina.jpg

http://diamantina.mg.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/IMG_8879a-e1482170408169.jpg

http://www.profissaohoteleiro.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Diamantina.jpg

São João del Rei

https://www.essemundoenosso.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/sao-joao-del-rei.jpg

https://www.feriasbrasil.com.br/fotosfb/517508452-XG.jpg

Token
11-15-2017, 08:34 PM
This picture is fantastic, what city is this? I wish know Minas Gerais, it is one of my favorite states, much colonial influence.
It's Santa Bárbara, a small city of the interior mineiro. Mineiros are a very receptive people and their culture is truly fascinating, you'll certainly like it.

Token
11-15-2017, 08:49 PM
Roland Statue, in homage to a legendary Frankish Germanic warrior that died fighting the Moors in Iberia - Rolândia, PR

http://www.net10.com.br/home/clientes/rolandia/imagens/estatua_roland/estatua_2008ref1.jpg

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/10/90/a3/b9/estatua-roland-rolandia.jpg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/53636648.jpg

Token
11-15-2017, 08:59 PM
Praça Germânica (roughly Germanic Square), in homage to the German migrants - Teófilo Otoni, MG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--9gIEjw0YjE/TbV-RsTfUGI/AAAAAAAAACM/xiHVLQ-CM6Y/s1600/PRA%25C3%2587A+GERM%25C3%2582NICA-+T.+OTONI.JPG

http://www.teofilootoni.mg.gov.br/pmto/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/18.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1cUdDzR7CcM/SlKEicMClFI/AAAAAAAAAD4/v8i0lIQ4frU/s400/pra%C3%A7a_germanica.jpg

Bolsonaro2018
11-15-2017, 09:11 PM
It's Santa Bárbara, a small city of the interior mineiro. Mineiros are a very receptive people and their culture is truly fascinating, you'll certainly like it.

I know many of them, that's true, a very receptive people. This is my ambition, traveling around the country in the future. Anyway I do prefer more countrysides places than big metropolis... I can't see identity in big metropolis, looks like a mess.

I would never live in a big city I think. That's why I even think myself as a truck driver.


http://www.santacatarinabrasil.com.br/assets/upload/fotos/sc041.jpg

http://rockntech.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/piores-mais-perigosas-estradas-rodovias-do-mundo_16.jpg

http://concessionariatamoios.com.br/uploads/rodovia-dos-tamoiosout-2015aereas0012_563225f763578.jpg

there are a lot of landscapes like that

https://www.clubedaalice.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/foto4.jpg

Cristiano viejo
11-15-2017, 09:11 PM
Rock Cathedral - Canela, RS (Gothic Architecture)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Catedral_de_Pedra_Canela_001.jpeg/800px-Catedral_de_Pedra_Canela_001.jpeg



WOW amaaaazing, beautiful!!

Token
11-15-2017, 09:20 PM
I know many of them, that's true, a very receptive people. This is my ambition, traveling around the country in the future. Anyway I do prefer more countrysides places than big metropolis... I can't see identity in big metropolis, looks like a mess.

I would never live in a big city I think. That's why I even think myself as a truck driver.

http://rockntech.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/piores-mais-perigosas-estradas-rodovias-do-mundo_16.jpg

Me too, i have lived my entire life in a small and calm city, unfortunately i needed to move to a big city for professional reasons but my heart will always be with Westfália and Teutônia. By the way is this image really from Brazil? That is crazy!

Bolsonaro2018
11-15-2017, 09:28 PM
Me too, i have lived my entire life in a small and calm city, unfortunately i needed to move to a big city for professional reasons but my heart will always be with Westfália and Teutônia. By the way is this image really from Brazil? That is crazy!

I feel the same.

Yes, it is in Santa Catarina


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1qb8a9cME

Token
11-15-2017, 09:37 PM
Rio Grande do Sul

http://s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2013/08/27/boneco_2.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Neve_em_Canela.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.temporadalivre.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Gramado-p%C3%B3rtico_menor-1.jpg?fit=1072%2C712&ssl=1

http://novasrotas.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Brasil-inverno-1024x693.jpg

http://www.clicrbs.com.br/rbs/image/15512596.jpg?w=800

Token
11-16-2017, 11:23 AM
The Twelve Prophets, by the master Aleijadinho - Congonhas, MG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hXs6IDL13Cs/Up4GqhlT1aI/AAAAAAAAFHo/qRYp0AppsyM/s1600/Minas+Gerais+010.jpg

http://revistasagarana.com.br/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/reportagem-39-matozinhos-6.jpg

https://imagens.publicocdn.com/imagens.aspx/127296?tp=EI&db=IMAGES&w=823

https://www.g37.com.br/imagens/36683/imagens_711201451520.jpg

Italian Festival - Belo Horizonte, MG

http://www.italiabrasil.com.br/upload/noticia/f1bc422af9b034bd388e1b3a5c656bad.JPG

https://soubh-imagens.s3.amazonaws.com/media/uploaded_images/eventos/172547_festa-italiana.jpg

http://www.fca.pucminas.br/omundo/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/festivalitalia01.jpg

Token
11-16-2017, 03:32 PM
Aparecida's Basilica - Aparecida do Norte, SP

http://www.aafbb.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/aparecida_norte.jpg

http://img.ibxk.com.br/papel-de-parede/bxk/90046-164247-1280.jpg

http://vivomaissaudavel.com.br/static/media/uploads/aparecida-do-norte-2.jpg

https://ogimg.infoglobo.com.br/in/2908088-2df-7d3/FT1086A/Basilica-de-Aparecida-recebeu-10-milhoes-de-visitantesFoto-G1.jpg

Celtic Festival - Campinas, SP

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wpeitnlscjs/VdiEkm894oI/AAAAAAAAARQ/IX7VeDCz0O0/s1600/A-0143-1.JPG

https://i0.wp.com/blog.colegioinstitucionteresiana.cl/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ba_Festival_Celta_Brasil_2016_3-1.jpeg?resize=715%2C402

Beltane's Festival - Porto Alegre, RS

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-75FD45oJt78/V_xQpGevwQI/AAAAAAAAAKs/bZUFyUFDG1woyDpsWiwNP9fWuYTyMyf4QCLcB/s1600/20acd6_509c2fb6ef3547ef8e6a9a38825eaf08-mv2_d_4608_3072_s_4_2.jpg

http://sonhandoacordada.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/beltane.jpg

http://sonhandoacordada.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/beltane3.jpg

Heather Duval
11-16-2017, 03:51 PM
Thanks. :thumb001:
Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and Espírito Santo are oficially part of the southeast region, together with São Paulo, that yes, is mostly a geopolitical division, but is also characterized by a distinct culture, vegetation and even climate. Center-West and even the Northeast have a lot of colonial Portuguese influence but they were so much influenced by indigenous and African culture and this is visible in toponym, dialectal variations, folklore and even genetics. In a genetic sense, the most European region of Brazil is the South followed by the Southeast and then the Center-West and those north of them. The recent European migrations certainly played a role in the cultural 'Europeanization' of the south (in the broader sense, including the southeast, like we are using in this thread), Italians that visit Brazil says that they feel at home in São Paulo, specially the non-metropolitan regions, and the same is true for Germans in the south.

The culture of Rio de Janeiro has more African influence than indigenous, in our dialects, foods(Feijoada, samba, pagode, our accent, some words we often says) etc. Mainly in the capital and Baixada fluminense, and everyone in Rio de Janeiro shares dialects and cultures because Brazil has never been segregated in neighborhoods like the US. The rural areas of Rio de Janeiro is practically considered part of Minas Gerais. Rio is a super small State. And genetically the people here are more European, even blacks here. In Rio de Janeiro people who declares themselves black usually has very dark skin, because when they are brown they call themselves pardos. And white-skinned mixed people only call themselves white, and all these groups in the genetic tests indicate predominant Portuguese ancestry.
https://i.imgur.com/WdnJl6S.png
And to judge Brazil based on novelas is to say that in Mexico there are no mestizos, because in Mexican novels there are only blond actors. By the census, blacks and pardos are majority in Brazil and mainly Rio de Janeiro, true whites in Rio you certanly found in Leblon or rural areas. Rio de Janeiro is one of the last states where you will find pure races,IDK why some Brazilians specially in this thread likes to make such big deal about it. And when they talk about elite I even laugh, because we all know that rich people are minorities in the whole of Brazil, which only confirm that it will be hard to find someone who is pure here. Not judging you because youre not delusional. Most people I know in Rio, even those who looks white claims some black ancestry, or indigenous. Mostly because black people were almost 98% of the population before the mass immigration of Europeans.

Token
11-16-2017, 05:34 PM
The culture of Rio de Janeiro has more African influence than indigenous, in our dialects, foods(Feijoada, samba, pagode, our accent, some words we often says) etc. Mainly in the capital and Baixada fluminense, and everyone in Rio de Janeiro shares dialects and cultures because Brazil has never been segregated in neighborhoods like the US. The rural areas of Rio de Janeiro is practically considered part of Minas Gerais. Rio is a super small State. And genetically the people here are more European, even blacks here. In Rio de Janeiro people who declares themselves black usually has very dark skin, because when they are brown they call themselves pardos. And white-skinned mixed people only call themselves white, and all these groups in the genetic tests indicate predominant Portuguese ancestry.
https://i.imgur.com/WdnJl6S.png
And to judge Brazil based on novelas is to say that in Mexico there are no mestizos, because in Mexican novels there are only blond actors. By the census, blacks and pardos are majority in Brazil and mainly Rio de Janeiro, true whites in Rio you certanly found in Leblon or rural areas. Rio de Janeiro is one of the last states where you will find pure races,IDK why some Brazilians specially in this thread likes to make such big deal about it. And when they talk about elite I even laugh, because we all know that rich people are minorities in the whole of Brazil, which only confirm that it will be hard to find someone who is pure here. Not judging you because youre not delusional. Most people I know in Rio, even those who looks white claims some black ancestry, or indigenous. Mostly because black people were almost 98% of the population before the mass immigration of Europeans.

Rio is not genetically much different from São Paulo like this genetic study suggests, it's even comparable to some parts of the southernmost fringes of Brazil and they are well within the southeastern cultural spectrum. The capital of any state and adjacent regions are always more multi-cultural as it typically receives a lot of extra-south migrations in the case of Brazil, and this is not only observable here but also in European countries like France. Areas like the interior fluminense are certainly more European than the central metropolitan areas and this is also true for São Paulo.

Heather Duval
11-16-2017, 05:50 PM
Rio is not genetically much different from São Paulo like this genetic study suggests, it's even comparable to some parts of the southernmost fringes of Brazil and they are well within the southeastern cultural spectrum. The capital of any state and adjacent regions are always more multi-cultural as it typically receives a lot of extra-south migrations in the case of Brazil, and this is not only observable here but also in European countries like France. Areas like the interior fluminense are certainly more European than the central metropolitan areas and this is also true for São Paulo.

I think people from São Paulo scores less African than people from Rio. The reason why whites and pardos from Rio scores more black ancestry than indigenous in that genetic study is quite obvious: According to the Brazilian Census the society of Rio de Janeiro was divided among whites, blacks and mulattos. Although, nowadays you find many tri-racials around here because Northeastern immigration occurred with a strong impact on the region of Baixada Fluminense.

Token
11-16-2017, 06:01 PM
I think people from São Paulo scores less African than people from Rio. The reason why whites and pardos from Rio scores more black ancestry than indigenous in that genetic study is quite obvious: According to the Brazilian Census the society of Rio de Janeiro was divided among whites, blacks and mulattos. Although, nowadays you find many tri-racials around here because Northeastern immigration occurred with a strong impact on the region of Baixada Fluminense.

Actually not, Whites in the Rio seems to score even more than those from São Paulo but this can be just a variation from study to study. Also, the racial demography is pretty similar in both states so Rio is not really a outsider among others southerners-southeasterners, the exotic and heavily multi-cultural Rio image is just a strategy to attract turists like they do in Spain.

Heather Duval
11-16-2017, 06:10 PM
Actually not, Whites in the Rio seems to score even more than those from São Paulo but this can be just a variation from study to study. Also, the racial demography is pretty similar in both states so Rio is not really a outsider among others southerners-southeasterners, the exotic and heavily multi-cultural Rio image is just a strategy to attract turists like they do in Spain.

Here in Rio there is economic segregation. The rich regions are whiter than mixed and black. But you find whites in the suburbs of Rio. Most of these TV actors who are white and from Rio, did not come from Leblon or Ipanema. And to be self declared black here you gotta be really dark skinned, my sister declared herself parda to ENEM.

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-19-2017, 06:57 AM
The Laçador remembers me the Arminius statue. It's interesting considering the strong Germanic legacy present in the south and southeast.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e4/77/2e/e4772efbeeceb4f17ac4684ecb2e1c1e--roman-legion-roman-history.jpg

funny thing, in the province of La Rioja in Argentina, they made a statue of the XIX caudillo Vicente Peñaloza, and with his gaucho garments, insted looking like some sort of mexican, looks like a iron age warrior.

http://www.elortiba.org/old/ayer/calvo_chacho1.jpg
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/3f/b5/45/monumento-cacho-penaloza.jpg
https://direitasja.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/chacho-pec3b1aloza.jpg?w=500&h=387

Marinus
11-19-2017, 06:58 PM
Catedral Basílica Menor Nossa Senhora da Luz dos Pinhais (Our Lady of Light of the Pines Minor Basilica Cathedral, AKA Metropolitan Cathedral):

https://i.imgur.com/5PTToLy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lf5YShm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/D96n1ht.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fIHLQqC.jpg

Interior:
https://i.imgur.com/Vsj5NTk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kZO9vhK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jlo7pb5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fzXGqgg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5W1kgjG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5UhlvA4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZFaA7Fh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n5ivEh2.jpg


UFPR Prédio Historico, Praça santos Andrade (Federal University of Paraná Historical Building, Santos Andrade Square):

https://i.imgur.com/cKFFnLF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GegDNz6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/j0HbaCy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n5kMHk1.jpg
Directly opposite, Teatro Guaíra
https://i.imgur.com/68IE8xr.jpg

runecrafting
12-11-2017, 01:39 AM
Petrópolis - RJ

https://i2.wp.com/vidasemparedes.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Vida-sem-Paredes-Museu-Imperial-Petr%C3%B3polis-8.jpg?resize=800%2C335

the palace where the royal family used to live

https://transcine.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/palacio-de-cristal-petropolis-rj.jpeg

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/42692700.jpg

Token
01-20-2018, 03:21 PM
Municipal Theatre of São Paulo

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Teatro_Municipal_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_8.jpg/1280px-Teatro_Municipal_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_8.jpg

https://gds.portal5g-media.com/contentFiles/system/pictures/2011/10/27718/original/at-sp-theatro-municipal-de-sao-paulo-002.jpg

Heather Duval
02-13-2018, 05:23 PM
Did you know that the favela "Morro da Conceição" In Rio de janeiro had the architecture inspired and made by Portuguese?
http://www.blogdepriscila.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Morro-da-Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/0f/45/810f45fa602928fb892f08edf98d1243.jpg
https://projetocolabora.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Morro-3.jpg
https://abrilvejario.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/3781_morro-da-conceicao.jpeg?quality=70&strip=info&w=1000&h=666&crop=1
http://www.folhape.com.br/obj/51/177266,930,80,0,0,930,560,0,0,0,0.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/FLqigYcQ-DE24Rq0IPo06P2Hw-E=/s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2014/11/28/dscn7083.jpg
http://www.maisrio.com.br/sites/default/files/styles/large_740x444_/public/0_morro_da_conceicao_2353_compressed.jpg?itok=L7Qa PtiM
http://imgsapp.diariodepernambuco.com.br/app/noticia_127983242361/2017/04/09/698263/20170407205652909214o.jpg



https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morro_da_Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o_(Rio_de_Janeiro)

Former Portuguese immigrants talk about the place

Existia uma richa entre os portugueses e os italianos aqui. Portugueses não namoravam italianos e vice-versa. Teve até um episódio que os italianos queriam fazer uma igreja em celebração a São Francisco de Paula no alto do morro. Rapidamente, os portugueses correram e construíram uma capela para Nossa Senhora de Montserrat e a dos italianos nunca foi feita — conta Domingos

Leia mais: https://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/historia/as-trajetorias-das-familias-portuguesas-que-redescobriram-rio-16042018#ixzz570vXRaiS
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Carlito's Way
02-14-2018, 12:51 AM
Did you know that the favela "Morro da Conceição" In Rio de janeiro had the architecture inspired and made by Portuguese?
http://www.blogdepriscila.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Morro-da-Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/0f/45/810f45fa602928fb892f08edf98d1243.jpg
https://projetocolabora.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Morro-3.jpg
https://abrilvejario.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/3781_morro-da-conceicao.jpeg?quality=70&strip=info&w=1000&h=666&crop=1
http://www.folhape.com.br/obj/51/177266,930,80,0,0,930,560,0,0,0,0.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/FLqigYcQ-DE24Rq0IPo06P2Hw-E=/s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2014/11/28/dscn7083.jpg
http://www.maisrio.com.br/sites/default/files/styles/large_740x444_/public/0_morro_da_conceicao_2353_compressed.jpg?itok=L7Qa PtiM
http://imgsapp.diariodepernambuco.com.br/app/noticia_127983242361/2017/04/09/698263/20170407205652909214o.jpg



https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morro_da_Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o_(Rio_de_Janeiro)

Former Portuguese immigrants talk about the place

Existia uma richa entre os portugueses e os italianos aqui. Portugueses não namoravam italianos e vice-versa. Teve até um episódio que os italianos queriam fazer uma igreja em celebração a São Francisco de Paula no alto do morro. Rapidamente, os portugueses correram e construíram uma capela para Nossa Senhora de Montserrat e a dos italianos nunca foi feita — conta Domingos

Leia mais: https://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/historia/as-trajetorias-das-familias-portuguesas-que-redescobriram-rio-16042018#ixzz570vXRaiS
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now this shit be cray cray asf

Volgo
03-12-2018, 11:55 PM
no surprise to find a lot of racists here. You want to know the truth? The south of Brazil is just as brazilian as the rest, racially and culturally mixed.

Catarinense1998
03-21-2018, 11:57 AM
no surprise to find a lot of racists here. You want to know the truth? The south of Brazil is just as brazilian as the rest, racially and culturally mixed.

O sul está inundado de nordestinos.Falo isso levando meu estado como referência.Por que meus ancestrais nativos daqui - os quais fizeram essas terras serem o que elas são hoje - merecem estar no mesmo pé de igualdade com um mestiço baiano que vem para cá?SC para os verdadeiros catarinenses: açorianos, alemães, italianos.A TV mostra a SC como se fosse um paraíso, e o que acontece?Cidades como Blumenau e Pomerode estão cheias de nordestinos: gente que anda com carro rebaixado com sol alto; gente que faz barraco para morar.Fico muito triste em assistir essa degradação toda.é como meu avô dish: deveríamos colocar toda essa gente em um barco e mandar embora.

Kivan
03-21-2018, 12:19 PM
O sul está inundado de nordestinos.Falo isso levando meu estado como referência.Por que meus ancestrais nativos daqui - os quais fizeram essas terras serem o que elas são hoje - merecem estar no mesmo pé de igualdade com um mestiço baiano que vem para cá?SC para os verdadeiros catarinenses: açorianos, alemães, italianos.A TV mostra a SC como se fosse um paraíso, e o que acontece?Cidades como Blumenau e Pomerode estão cheias de nordestinos: gente que anda com carro rebaixado com sol alto; gente que faz barraco para morar.Fico muito triste em assistir essa degradação toda.é como meu avô dish: deveríamos colocar toda essa gente em um barco e mandar embora.

:laugh:

Catarinense1998
03-21-2018, 12:21 PM
:laugh:

Qual a graça?

Kivan
03-21-2018, 12:29 PM
Qual a graça?

Nada. É que também vejo gente com carros rebaixados, som alto e coisas do tipo...

Catarinense1998
03-21-2018, 12:33 PM
Nada. É que também vejo gente com carros rebaixados, som alto e coisas do tipo...

Ah tá.

Heather Duval
03-21-2018, 01:35 PM
O sul está inundado de nordestinos.Falo isso levando meu estado como referência.Por que meus ancestrais nativos daqui - os quais fizeram essas terras serem o que elas são hoje - merecem estar no mesmo pé de igualdade com um mestiço baiano que vem para cá?SC para os verdadeiros catarinenses: açorianos, alemães, italianos.A TV mostra a SC como se fosse um paraíso, e o que acontece?Cidades como Blumenau e Pomerode estão cheias de nordestinos: gente que anda com carro rebaixado com sol alto; gente que faz barraco para morar.Fico muito triste em assistir essa degradação toda.é como meu avô dish: deveríamos colocar toda essa gente em um barco e mandar embora.

Sonhou! A TV Brasileira só tem foco pra Rio e São Paulo.

Catarinense1998
03-21-2018, 01:53 PM
Sonhou! A TV Brasileira só tem foco pra Rio e São Paulo.

Toda vez que eles fazem reportagens relacionadas às cidades da daqui, eles sobrevalorizam as mesmas.Eu Não disse que eles dão mais atenção ás cidades daqui ou ao nossos estados do sul; eu nunca disse isso istepô.

Heather Duval
03-21-2018, 02:04 PM
Toda vez que eles fazem reportagens relacionadas às cidades da daqui, eles sobrevalorizam as mesmas.Eu Não disse que eles dão mais atenção ás cidades daqui ou ao nossos estados do sul; eu nunca disse isso istepô.

Eles fazem isto até com as cidades da Bahia, nada incomum. SC por sinal é até um estado bastante conhecido, assim como Rio Grande do sul(as pessoas aqui pensam que Gaúchos são caipiras como mostram nas novelas da Globo). O Carioca médio sequer ouve falar do Paraná, eu conheço pessoas que não sabem dizer onde Paraná é localizado. As pessoas do Rio são muito 'ignorantes" sobre o resto do Brasil, mas claro que sabemos sobre o Nordestino/São Paulo pois é bastante comentado na Mídia. Paraná é o Espirito santo da região de vocês: Uma sombra.

QUICAS
03-21-2018, 02:49 PM
Eu não entendo como um mega Estado feito o Parana com 12 milhoes de pessoas pode ser tão moita. RS e SC são bem mais famosos.

QUICAS
03-21-2018, 02:50 PM
Did you know that the favela "Morro da Conceição" In Rio de janeiro had the architecture inspired and made by Portuguese?
http://www.blogdepriscila.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Morro-da-Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o1.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/0f/45/810f45fa602928fb892f08edf98d1243.jpg
https://projetocolabora.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Morro-3.jpg
https://abrilvejario.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/3781_morro-da-conceicao.jpeg?quality=70&strip=info&w=1000&h=666&crop=1
http://www.folhape.com.br/obj/51/177266,930,80,0,0,930,560,0,0,0,0.jpg
http://s2.glbimg.com/FLqigYcQ-DE24Rq0IPo06P2Hw-E=/s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2014/11/28/dscn7083.jpg
http://www.maisrio.com.br/sites/default/files/styles/large_740x444_/public/0_morro_da_conceicao_2353_compressed.jpg?itok=L7Qa PtiM
http://imgsapp.diariodepernambuco.com.br/app/noticia_127983242361/2017/04/09/698263/20170407205652909214o.jpg



https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morro_da_Concei%C3%A7%C3%A3o_(Rio_de_Janeiro)

Former Portuguese immigrants talk about the place

Existia uma richa entre os portugueses e os italianos aqui. Portugueses não namoravam italianos e vice-versa. Teve até um episódio que os italianos queriam fazer uma igreja em celebração a São Francisco de Paula no alto do morro. Rapidamente, os portugueses correram e construíram uma capela para Nossa Senhora de Montserrat e a dos italianos nunca foi feita — conta Domingos

Leia mais: https://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/historia/as-trajetorias-das-familias-portuguesas-que-redescobriram-rio-16042018#ixzz570vXRaiS
stest

bem bonitinho

Black Panther
03-21-2018, 03:14 PM
Eu não entendo como um mega Estado feito o Parana com 12 milhoes de pessoas pode ser tão moita. RS e SC são bem mais famosos.

Paraná é conhecido por ser a Rússia brasileira.

Heather Duval
03-21-2018, 03:21 PM
Paraná é conhecido por ser a Rússia brasileira.

???
Minha tia conheceu uma menina do Paraná no carnaval, e essa menina falou p ela q queria comer sei la o que da terra dela. Minha tia respondeu: Lá nas feiras do Paraíbas aqui no Rio, tu vai encontrar. lol
Ela me contou isso, e eu expliquei pra ela que Paraná fica no sul.

skain
03-22-2018, 09:50 PM
Eles fazem isto até com as cidades da Bahia, nada incomum. SC por sinal é até um estado bastante conhecido, assim como Rio Grande do sul(as pessoas aqui pensam que Gaúchos são caipiras como mostram nas novelas da Globo). O Carioca médio sequer ouve falar do Paraná, eu conheço pessoas que não sabem dizer onde Paraná é localizado. As pessoas do Rio são muito 'ignorantes" sobre o resto do Brasil, mas claro que sabemos sobre o Nordestino/São Paulo pois é bastante comentado na Mídia. Paraná é o Espirito santo da região de vocês: Uma sombra.

Paraná é um estado cheio de gente arrogante

Chaos One
03-25-2018, 05:40 PM
Na verdade depende do paranaense e de qual lugar você é. Eu sempre ouvi muita reclamação do pessoal de Curitiba, mas por outro lado como paulista sempre vejo falarem bem do pessoal do norte do estado devido a maior proximidade cultural, principalmente Maringá e Londrina.

Bem, SP é visto como um estado de gente arrogante, então fica difícil falar sobre isso.

QUICAS
03-25-2018, 06:34 PM
Paraná é um estado cheio de gente arrogante

Tá generalizando, a maioria dos q conheci eram simpáticos e até bastante, isso quando vc conhece eles. Eu tenho uma vizinha q é paranaense e ela é muito legal, de vez quando minha família compartilha e troca janta com ela.

Heather Duval
03-25-2018, 07:42 PM
Tá generalizando, a maioria dos q conheci eram simpáticos e até bastante, isso quando vc conhece eles. Eu tenho uma vizinha q é paranaense e ela é muito legal, de vez quando minha família compartilha e troca janta com ela.

morta com o "troca janta"

QUICAS
03-26-2018, 01:07 AM
morta com o "troca janta"

É ótimo trocar coisas do tipo como lansanha, macarronada, tortas e as vezes até sopa kk

JMack
02-26-2019, 06:04 PM
This was a great thread ruined by low IQ retards in some pages... Let's bump it again with relevant information.

If I'm not mistaken the biggest Tyrolean diaspora in the world is in Brazil. Historically speaking all of the Tyrol has a shared identity and even Italian speaking people from Trentino identified more with Austria than with Italy until some decades ago.

Some of these people are likely only 1/16, 1/8 or 1/4 Tyrolean since Tyroleans intermarried with other German and Italian groups in Brazil.


The first Tyrolean colony was founded in the 19th century, in the Espírito Santo state, most were from Austrian tyrol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1v-_aXFrJM

Other colonies followed in the 19th century, mostly in Espírito Santo and Minas Gerais states.

Then Italian-speaking Tyroleans (''Trentinos'') started to migrate, the bulk of immigration was to Espírito Santo again, São Paulo and Santa Catarina.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlfSUMaBPjY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZfYtjqE8Zc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSHpZT-mckQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQn3WxS2aK4

Marinus
03-17-2019, 12:56 AM
Real Gabinete Português de Leitura, Rio de Janeiro.


https://i.imgur.com/SI72kJY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w1Cczno.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6fBLgUI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N0KqYL7.jpg