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Peterski
11-15-2017, 07:34 PM
Crna Gora/Montenegro
Ethnic structure
1961
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/CG_-_ES_N_1961_2.png/638px-CG_-_ES_N_1961_2.png

1971
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/CG_-_ES_N_1971_2.png/638px-CG_-_ES_N_1971_2.png

1981
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/CG_-_ES_N_1981_2.png/638px-CG_-_ES_N_1981_2.png

1991
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/CG_-_ES_N_1991_2.png/638px-CG_-_ES_N_1991_2.png

2003
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/CG_-_ES_N_2003_2.png/638px-CG_-_ES_N_2003_2.png

2011
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/MontenegroEthnic2011.PNG/614px-MontenegroEthnic2011.PNG

1948
Montenegrins - 342,009(90.67%)
Serbs - 6,707(1.78%)
Muslims by nationality - 387(0.1%)

1961
Montenegrins - 383,988(81.37%) +
Serbs - 14,087(2.99%) +
Muslims by nationality - 30,665(6.5%) +
Yugoslavs - 1,559(0.33%) +

1971
Montenegrins - 355,632(67.15%) -
Serbs - 39,512(7.46%) +
Muslims by nationality - 70,236(13.26%) +
Yugoslavs - 10,943(2.07%) +

1981
Montenegrins - 400,488(68.54%) +
Serbs - 19,407(3.32%) -
Muslims by nationality - 78,080(13.36%) +
Yugoslavs - 31,243(5.35%) +

1991
Montenegrins - 380,467(61.86%) -
Serbs - 57,453(9.34%) +
Muslims by nationality - 89,614(14.57%) +
Yugoslavs - 26,159(4.25%) -

2003
Montenegrins - 267,669(43.16%) -
Serbs - 198,414(31.99%) +
Muslims by nationality - 24,625(3.97%) -
Yugoslavs - 1,860(0.3%) -
Bosniaks - 48,184(7.77%) +

2011
Montenegrins - 278,865(44.98%) +
Serbs - 178,110(28.73%) -
Muslims by nationality - 20,537(3.31%) -
Bosniaks - 53,605(8.65%) +

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Religious structure in 2011:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/MontenegroReligion2011.PNG/614px-MontenegroReligion2011.PNG

Vožd
11-15-2017, 07:46 PM
But 1931. arround 95% of population said that speak Serbian.

Morlak
05-09-2018, 05:29 PM
Reason why Serbs appeared in huge numbers in 2003 is because this was a phase of huge Montenegrin separatism, so Montenegrins who rejected those ideas of separate Montenegrin nation declared as Serbs

Peterski
05-10-2018, 01:18 PM
Reason why Serbs appeared in huge numbers in 2003 is because this was a phase of huge Montenegrin separatism, so Montenegrins who rejected those ideas of separate Montenegrin nation declared as Serbs

Thanks, it makes sense.

Bosniensis
05-10-2018, 01:23 PM
Those are Religius & Political ethnicities. Nations are Tribal communities not religious groups.

Montenegrins are Nationalists who dislike SPC and support Montenegrins Orthodox Church, while Bosniaks are muslims.

Morlak
05-10-2018, 01:28 PM
Those are Religius & Political ethnicities. Nations are Tribal communities not religious groups.

Montenegrins are Nationalists who dislike SPC and support Montenegrins Orthodox Church, while Bosniaks are muslims.

That is not entirely true. There is people who still declare as Montnegrin but support Serbian Church and Serbian language.

There is 28% Serbs in Montenegro but 55% said they call their mother tounge Serbian. Which shows you that a big chunk of people who identify as Montenegrins are pro-serbian.

Vožd
05-10-2018, 02:42 PM
That is not entirely true. There is people who still declare as Montnegrin but support Serbian Church and Serbian language.

There is 28% Serbs in Montenegro but 55% said they call their mother tounge Serbian. Which shows you that a big chunk of people who identify as Montenegrins are pro-serbian.

This is political reasons, they based their etnicity on nationality.

Bosniensis
05-10-2018, 03:01 PM
That is not entirely true. There is people who still declare as Montnegrin but support Serbian Church and Serbian language.

There is 28% Serbs in Montenegro but 55% said they call their mother tounge Serbian. Which shows you that a big chunk of people who identify as Montenegrins are pro-serbian.

WHy do they call themselves Montenegrin then?

That's stupid.

If you are MONTENEGRIN... you can't have cousins among Serbs otherwise someone is lying.

If you are Montenegrin you can't have the same last name as Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats etc...

My case is typical example:

My family relative from Croatia calls himself Serb, while we call ourselves Bosniaks.

That's not possible!

But politicians say it is, and they support this... INSANE concept of ethnicity based on Religious and Political principle.

In Republika Srpska, President of republic called Opposition: "Undercover Fake-Serbs, cause they have voted for something ruling party did not"... I taught he was joking but he was dead
serious.

Politics and Religion, that's what our ethnicites are.

True ethnicities are based on Tribes for example:

Serbs are union of Serbian Tribes.

It seems that Albanians only got that concept right.

Morlak
05-10-2018, 03:06 PM
WHy do they call themselves Montenegrin then?

That's stupid.

If you are MONTENEGRIN... you can't have cousins among Serbs otherwise someone is lying.

If you are Montenegrin you can't have the same last name as Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats etc...

My case is typical example:

My family relative from Croatia calls himself Serb, while we call ourselves Bosniaks.

That's not possible!

But politicians say it is, and they support this... INSANE concept of ethnicity based on Religious and Political principle.

In Republika Srpska, President of republic called Opposition: "Undercover Fake-Serbs, cause they have voted for something ruling party did not"... I taught he was joking but he was dead
serious.

Politics and Religion, that's what our ethnicites are.

Yes I see your point. I just meant that not all people who identify as Montenegrins hate Serbian Church or Serbs in general.

But being Serb is not a political identity, it's Bosniak and Montenegro identity who are created for political/religion reasons.

Ogi24
05-12-2018, 08:16 PM
Yes I see your point. I just meant that not all people who identify as Montenegrins hate Serbian Church or Serbs in general.

But being Serb is not a political identity, it's Bosniak and Montenegro identity who are created for political/religion reasons.

Montenegro is one the oldest nations on the Balkan. Its always Serbs like you that think so negative about Montenegrin's.

Morlak
05-12-2018, 08:30 PM
Montenegro is one the oldest nations on the Balkan. Its always Serbs like you that think so negative about Montenegrin's.

Не причај глупости несрећо. Нација није исто што и држава.

Ogi24
05-12-2018, 08:37 PM
Не причај глупости несрећо. Нација није исто што и држава.

I see that different im against Djukanovic, but im pro Montenegro. I do not understand how people from my parents city have such hate against everything what is Montenegro.

Morlak
05-12-2018, 08:41 PM
I see that different im against Djukanovic, but im pro Montenegro. I do not understand how people from my parents city have such hate against everything what is Montenegro.

Who has hate against Montenegro? If you think about me you are highly mistaken i love Montenegro with all my heart.

I only dislike Montenegrins who try to change history and erase Serbian identity in Montenegro.

Ogi24
05-12-2018, 08:46 PM
Who has hate against Montenegro? If you think about me you are highly mistaken i love Montenegro with all my heart.

I only dislike Montenegrins who try to change history and erase Serbian identity in Montenegro.

Then i misunderstand you. I self do not have anything against Serbs, but i do hate the people that seem them self as pro Serbs in Montenegro. Mostly because their hate against Montenegro.

Morlak
05-12-2018, 08:56 PM
Then i misunderstand you. I self do not have anything against Serbs, but i do hate the people that seem them self as pro Serbs in Montenegro. Mostly because their hate against Montenego.

Its dumb politics which created this tensions amongst Montenegrins, and its really dumb because Montenegrin Serbs and people who identify as Montenegrins are literally same people.

But i understand why Montenegrin Serbs do not like current state of Montenegro which tries to fabricate history and create new language, church, identity and etc...

Ogi24
05-12-2018, 09:06 PM
Its dumb politics which created this tensions amongst Montenegrins, and its really dumb because Montenegrin Serbs and people who identify as Montenegrins are literally same people.

But i understand why Montenegrin Serbs do not like current state of Montenegro which tries to fabricate history and create new language, church, identity and etc...

I can understand why people in Montenegro can seem the self as Serbs, but i do not understand the hate against everything what is Montenegro. For example i was in Berane a city with a big Serb population. Once i asked group of people why do they seem them self as Serbs. And every time i got the answer, that these people can not be Montenegrin's because of muslims or romani people.

Morlak
05-12-2018, 09:16 PM
I can understand why people in Montenegro can seem the self as Serbs, but i do not understand the hate against everything what is Montenegro. For example i was in Berane a city with a big Serb population. Once i asked group of people why do they seem them self as Serbs. And every time i got the answer, that these people can not be Montenegrin's because of muslims or romani people.

Oh Berane is like a Serbian stronghold in Montenegro.

Reason why they identify as Serbs is because they are ones, Montenegrin used to be just a regional term not an ethnic one.

But it has become complicated since Montenegrins had their own state for a long time, so people grew stronger on regional feeling, so i also respect people who identify as Montenegrins but say that their mother tongue is Serbian.
Ones who try to create new "montenegrin" language and deny everything Serbian are fools.

Peterski
05-19-2018, 04:13 PM
Why did Montenegro and Serbia split?

Megadorian
05-19-2018, 04:33 PM
The only maps that matter are the ones who display the distribution of Old Montenegro and Herzegovina clans, as was said before nations are a union of lineages not cultural or dogmastic unions

Vožd
05-19-2018, 05:14 PM
Why did Montenegro and Serbia split?

Politics...

Doclean
05-21-2018, 04:50 PM
Why did Montenegro and Serbia split?

Because majority of Montenegrins didn't want to be in shadow of Serbia and their dumb politicians.