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ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 07:23 PM
My final conclusion is ANE is Mongoloid in East Asian/Siberia/Southeast Asia and Caucasoid in Europe/Middle east/South Asia. I HOPE WE CAN ALL AGREE.

This ANE dna was really the worst piece of crap confusion I've ever witnessed in my life and that that includes the genetic study of Malt'a boy. I wouldn't be surprised that this was all part of the Zionist plan to drive people insane.

Why ANE is also Mongoloid ( for three good reasons )


No.1)

ANE ADMIXTURE

" A people similar to MA-1 were important genetic contributors to Native Americans, Europeans, Central and South Asians, and minor contribution to East Eurasians. [10] Lazaridis et al. (2016) notes "a cline of ANE ancestry across the east-west extent of Eurasia."[11] According to a 2016 study, it was found that the global maximum of ANE ancestry occurs in modern-day Kets, Mansi, Native Americans, Nganasans and Yukaghirs.[3] " <--------- All these populations are pure Mongoloid and predominant Mongoloid


ANE admixture in Ngannasans was 28%

As we can all see Ngannasans all samples show 100% East Asian admixture with exception of 2 European admixture and that's only 0.1% and 0.5% which means there is no freaking way it was due ANE since this admixture reaches one of the highest percentages in Ngannasans. The Yukaghirs also showed 100% PURE DNA, unlike the Kets and Mansi who also show predominant Mongoloid DNA but are mixed.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2myu6u0.jpg



No.2

http://i.imgur.com/cnYjAMY.jpg

Oroqen people have 9.24% ANE but DNA always shows 100% East Asian/Siberian admixture the same goes for Daur with over 7% ANE

Oroqen have one of the highest Siberian component in East Asia a DNA that reaches 40-60% in Mongolian 30-55% in Koreans. In this study West Mongolians who have different degree of Turkic ancestry shows west Eurasian admixture, it makes sense when there are several Turkic ethnic group residing there and many are Mongolianized Turks but they make up only 1/10 of the population

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ppyhbm.jpg


No.3


I made some previous explanations. I can quickly see why ANE isn't Caucasoid only when I analyzed it. Like I said previously

* Northern African Caucasoid from Southern Algeria, Libya have 0% ANE
* Saudi Arabians Caucasoids from the central have it lower than Chinese, Burmese, Nivkhs
* East Africans Entreans, Sudanese Arabs have 30-70% Caucasoid admixture but 0% ANE
* Central North Africans have 20-45% West Eurasian admixture but 0% ANE
* It's highest in Selkups, Kets are a clearly mixed race but they also have admixture the Russian and Slavic immigrants
* Filipinos have 0% ANE admixture while other Southeast Asian have it much higher ?????? [/B]
* The only Southeast Asians who claim European ancestry are Filipino
* I mean we all freaking know any European admixture in Filipinos come from the Spaniards and South American, the Spaniards have it significantly so how come the Filipino have none of this DNA

http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1512/f3/630c469b270e.png

It makes no freaking sense that Filipino have 0% ANE dna despite their genetic makeup of 5% Southern European admixture, 2% Native American, 3% Southern Asia

5% Southern Europeans
3% Southern Asians
2% Native American

= 0% ANE admixture ?

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bf7d6dbd5e0fc3d57d4d6c3c0119fd56-c

Chinese ? everytime I see of them always shown 0% West Eurasian admixture except when they have ANE

http://i50.tinypic.com/2pqjf2p.jpg


Chinese and Vietnamese shows 2.3 to 4.5% when they both have 100% East Asian/Southeast Asian pure Mongoloid DNA while some Han Chinese even show 6-10%

43% Southeast Asian
57% Northeast Asian

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Admixture/VIETNAM.jpg

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 07:31 PM
ALSO MAL'TA BOY. I HAVE NO FREAKING IDEA !!!


Even now I still don't understand what the heck is Ma'lta boy and it drove me insane for quite a time !!! WHY IS THIS CREATURE SO CONFUSING

Sources keep contradicting one after another


People claim he is genetically Caucasoid/South Asian genetically yet he is East Asian Mongoloid phenotypically. JUST WHAT ON EARTH DOES THIS EVEN MEAN ?

Woud'nt this Malt'a wouldn't be like a modern day Gypsy with significant Mongoloid admixture ? All he is a Mongoloid boy with hybrid DNA. I JUST DON'T FREAKING UNDERSTAND, is it even human or some genetic freak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%27ta%E2%80%93Buret%27_culture

Physical anthropology[edit]

The skeletal remains of MA-1 have been described as phenotypically East Asian ("Mongoloid"). Alexeev (1998, p. 323) in his later publication stated that this area was "inhabited by a population of Mongoloid appearance". [6] Genomic study Raghavan et al. (2014) and Fu et al. (2016) found Mal'ta Buret had brown eyes, dark hair and dark skin.[1][7]



A people similar to MA-1 were important genetic contributors to Native Americans, Europeans, Central and South Asians, and minor contribution to East Eurasians. [10] Lazaridis et al. (2016) notes "a cline of ANE ancestry across the east-west extent of Eurasia."[11] According to a 2016 study, it was found that the global maximum of ANE ancestry occurs in modern-day Kets, Mansi, Native Americans, Nganasans and Yukaghirs.[3] Additionally it has been reported in ancient Bronze-age-steppe Yamnaya and Afanasevo cultures.[2] Between 14 and 38 percent of Native American ancestry may originate from gene flow from the Mal'ta Buret people, while the other geneflow in Native Americans appears to have an Eastern Eurasian origin. [1] Sequencing of another south-central Siberian (Afontova Gora-2) dating to approximately 17,000 years ago, revealed similar autosomal genetic signatures as Mal'ta boy-1, suggesting that the region was continuously occupied by humans throughout the Last Glacial Maximum. [1]



If Gypsies are not considered white due to their 0-20% South Asia admixture the Malta boy is definitely a Gypsy racial type having 20-26% South Asian DNA or even Gypsy-Mongoloid boy with predominant Mongoloid phenotype.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2013/10/roma2.png

Antimage
11-17-2017, 07:40 PM
ANE is neither caucasoid nor mongoloid I see it as a thing of its own it's ancestral group to many different races throughout the world

Hadouken
11-17-2017, 07:41 PM
ANE is neither caucasoid nor mongoloid I see it as a thing of its own it's ancestral group to many different races throughout the world

probably this

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 07:44 PM
ANE is neither caucasoid nor mongoloid I see it as a thing of its own it's ancestral group to many different races throughout the world

That's really the only good explanation there is.

Antimage
11-17-2017, 07:48 PM
probably this

Same argue it is negrito-id admixture: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?189178-ANE-is-Negroid-admixture


I say it's 1/3 ASE, 1/3 paleo Siberian, 1/3 proto WHG. So definetly some ancient nig nog in there. Enough to have a deleterious effect on Neanderthal admix, though WHG has too, for different reasons.

Hadouken
11-17-2017, 07:49 PM
Same argue it is negrito-id admixture: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?189178-ANE-is-Negroid-admixture

hahahahahhahaa

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 08:00 PM
They should have really just left out the stupid ANE crap because this ancestry still doesn't make any sense. They can at least explain the different types of ANE in different population.

Proto-Shaman
11-17-2017, 08:24 PM
http://s014.radikal.ru/i329/1512/f3/630c469b270e.png
This map is wrong. How can Tajikistan be the center of South Asian ANE (25-29%), when Pashtuns (28-35%) and Burusho (33-37%) have higher frequencies?

ANE_K4 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S6mJuQD3gDZlQlnVf_0_nD1xpbyYLcSSsyPM5CbUSnw/edit#gid=0)
ANE_K7 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v4zYizoWtsoW1MNBN7SUrLf8R62NHPbMRySUJ2J48_Q/edit#gid=1410860471)

Token
11-17-2017, 08:34 PM
They should have really just left out the stupid ANE crap because this ancestry still doesn't make any sense. They can at least explain the different types of ANE in different population.

It makes perfect sense, before the discovery of Mal'ta boy ANE was just a unknown and missing piece in the genomic structure of Eurasians but now we know its origin. It's also very important in the study of Indo-Europeans and Bronze Age impact in modern Europeans as well as in the study of the origin of Native Americans and others Siberians ethnicities.

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 09:18 PM
This map is wrong. How can Tajikistan be the center of South Asian ANE (25-29%), when Pashtuns (28-35%) and Burusho (33-37%) have higher frequencies?

ANE_K4 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S6mJuQD3gDZlQlnVf_0_nD1xpbyYLcSSsyPM5CbUSnw/edit#gid=0)
ANE_K7 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v4zYizoWtsoW1MNBN7SUrLf8R62NHPbMRySUJ2J48_Q/edit#gid=1410860471)

Maybe because they belong to different types of Tajiks? I always though Pamiri Tajiks and Burosho look racially connected due to their pseudo-European like appearance, they even have roughly the same ANE admixture although both also show small Mongoloid admixtures. There's not that much of a difference in their ANE admixture. The Pashun, Tajiks, Pamiris, Burosho all show large percentages of west Asian admixtures.

Like R1a, only the Tajiks of Panjikent score 68% R1a, Tajiks of Khojant score 64% R1a where as other Tajiks shows only 30-40% R1a same goes for Kyrgyz. But unlike other Kyrgyz who don't show dominant Y-DNA marker of haplogroup J2 like other Tajiks. The fact they show such massive differences in Y-DNA haplogroup shows Tajiks are different from one another from region to region. Some Tajiks group score 23% Mongoloid and 10% South Asian while other score 9% Mongoloid and 5% South Asian so properly their ANE admixture are also diverse. They show large percentages of ANE either way.

Burusho, Pamiri + Tajiks , Pasthuns = cousins of the same race.

Pasthun and Tajiks are basically related in DNA and haplogroup aswell only difference proportions of the South Asian and Mongoloid admixtures in both populations with South Asian admixture being higher in Pasthun and Mongoloid being higher in Tajiks otherwise they both have roughly the same over 77% West Eurasian ( 35-60% West Asian however in others study they sometimes break into 20-40% Caucasus, 15-29% European, 7-9% Southwest Asian ). South Asian admixture is a lot higher in the Pathans of Pakistan.

One almost not tell the differences between Tajiks and Pasthun but they can tell when they are Uzbeks, Hazara, Aimaq, Turkmen

https://the.ismaili/sites/ismaili/files/4457.jpg

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 10:04 PM
Tajik autosomal DNA differences

Group 1: East Asian 14.5% + Europe 25% + Middle east 24.8% + Centra/South Asia 35.8%

Group 2: East Asian 15.8% + Europe 32.4% + Middle east 24.4% + Central/South Asia 27.4%

Group 3: East Asian 25.1% + Europe 31% + Middle east 21% + Central/South Asia 21.9%

Group 4: East Asian 27.9% + Europe 29% + Middle east 33.6% + Central/South Asia 7%

Group 5: East Asian 22.5% + Europe 28% + Middle east 15.8% + Central/South Asia 33.4%

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 10:17 PM
Differences of proportions of their European admixture is only 1.4 - 7.2% , not a really big deal however their middle east and East Asian admixture show significant disproportion difference especially in their Central/South Asia which are several times much higher such differences could almost make them as different ethic groups genetically.

Their Central/South Asian admixtures can be as high as from 2.5 - 28%, . Group 3 and Group 4 shows 13-15% and 25-28% gap with group 1 and group 5.
Their Middle east admixture differences is 3% to 18% and East Asian admixture 2 - 14.5%

Why does one Tajik group show only 7% Central/South Asia while other group shows 35.8%

Why does one Tajik group shows only 15.8% Middle east while other shows group 33.6%

It clearly means they have a different genetic history. Could it be that the Tajik such as group 1 and group 2 is more pure because they show less East Asian admixture all are the ones with much higher middle east and central/south Asia have different histories?

ButlerKing
11-17-2017, 10:39 PM
Given the larges genetic differences of autosomal DNA between Tajik groups it's not a surprised they would have also different proportions of ANE admixture but the difference of their ANE admixture isn't that big, it's significant but not as huge compare with their Middle east and Central South Asian admixture just like their haplogroup studies, the differences in their percentages of R1a and J2 depending on the region is staggering high.

ButlerKing
02-13-2018, 06:27 AM
Bump. This is a good time to bump this thread.

I must all you that some isolated Indian tribes from the South and east have ANE admixture 23% to 38% but are way blacker skinned than many tribes with 25-40% west Eurasian admixture.

NEW CONCLUSION-------------->ANE admixture is also South Indian by race