Why do haplogroups matter?

[Dick]

https://youtu.be/AabWNnVbXUU

[Rethel]

I was first :)

My comment to this: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215815-PATRILINEALITY-(aka-patrireality)-for-dummies-i-e-I-am-restoring-my-old-thread&p=4782012&viewfull=1#post4782012

I allready said, that the guy is mostly deluded ugly neopagan,
with some traces of OWD, predicted his I1ness (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?220173-Latest-DNA-study-show-that-Myceneans-and-Minoans-were-Neolithic-and-non-Indoeuropeans&p=4781959&viewfull=1#post4781959) aso, but here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AabWNnVbXUU)
since the linked moment, he speaks reasonably - actualy mostly
the same, the point, what I am talking to TA-morons on and on
about. Obviously I do not support his weird idiotic pagan views,
I advise to not watch that part of his creativity, the same as
beginning of this video, where he is trying to convince that
every hg can be IE... if is white...

I guess, he probably reads our forum and me, becasue sometimes
some sanity is showing in his videos concerning matters which we
talk here about - this is to strong coincidence to be coincidence.

[jingorex]

Dick..

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9DPpf0zTqRASyzTi/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/qGy9SDPLTmSkM/giphy.gif

[Dick]

I was first :)

My comment to this: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215815-PATRILINEALITY-(aka-patrireality)-for-dummies-i-e-I-am-restoring-my-old-thread&p=4782012&viewfull=1#post4782012

I allready said, that the guy is mostly deluded ugly neopagan,
with some traces of OWD, predicted his I1ness (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?220173-Latest-DNA-study-show-that-Myceneans-and-Minoans-were-Neolithic-and-non-Indoeuropeans&p=4781959&viewfull=1#post4781959) aso, but here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AabWNnVbXUU)
since the linked moment, he speaks reasonably - actualy mostly
the same, the point, what I am talking to TA-morons on and on
about. Obviously I do not support his weird idiotic pagan views,
I advise to not watch that part of his creativity, the same as
beginning of this video, where he is trying to convince that
every hg can be IE... if is white...

I guess, he probably reads our forum and me, becasue sometimes
some sanity is showing in his videos concerning matters which we
talk here about - this is to strong coincidence to be coincidence.

So you dislike him only because his haplogroup is I1?

[tekken999]

I never paid much attention to it as it has nothing to do with more recent admixture dna which the guy makes a point for also.

[Peterski]

Maciamo from Eupedia disagrees with that guy:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33836-Estimating-the-role-of-the-Y-Chromosome-in-brain-function


(...) Haplogroup R is defined by a mutation in this UTY gene. This mutation, if it affects the paraventricular nucleus ofhypothalamus, would probably alter the secretion of hormones one way or another. This could include oxytocin (bonding hormone) or vasopressin (social behavior, sexual motivation and pair bonding) and ACTH (response to stress). If, on the other hand, it affects the UTX homologue, it could have implications for a variety of cognitive functions like memory, decision-making, and emotional reactions (including management of fear). When we know that haplogroup R is associated with the largest male expansion and conquest of land that has ever been known in human (pre)history, namely the Indo-European migrations, it wouldn't be surprising that haplogroup R men carrying this mutation would have had slightly different brains that allowed them to manage their fears and other emotions in a different way than other men. (...)

[Token]

Some of this guy's videos are informative and interesting but he have some weird views that sounds like pure fiction, principally when he talks about genetics and Indo-Europeans.

[Rethel]

So you dislike him only because his haplogroup is I1?

:picard2:

I dislike him, becasue he is an apostate, pagan and racist.
And deluded on many things as well, from objective reasons,
regardless my view on him.

[Rethel]

Maciamo from Eupedia disagrees with that guy:

Another delusionist.
Even if he would be rght (I doubt it) then success of the IEs
lays somewhere else, and even beyond your (pl) comprehension.

[Hudayar]

Maciamo from Eupedia disagrees with that guy:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33836-Estimating-the-role-of-the-Y-Chromosome-in-brain-function

does anyone take eupedia seriously lmao

[Rethel]

does anyone take eupedia seriously lmao

I, when they say something, what contradicts their leftist propaganda :)

[Kouros]

This guy's videos are like he's reading racial pseudoscience off a broken teleprompter

https://i.imgur.com/wNjNoof.png

[RN97]

Maciamo from Eupedia disagrees with that guy:

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33836-Estimating-the-role-of-the-Y-Chromosome-in-brain-function

It's still not close to autosomal DNA. I don't give a shit a R1b afro-American is not more like a R1b Englishman than even a J2 Englishman. I don't think you should take the idea that "it's of no importance" literally. It's just not what most people who first discover haplogroups think it is. The part of my DNA I exclusively get from my father that was exclusively passed down by patriarchal lineage must have some sort of special function. However does that affect me more than my overall genome that would control stuff like pigmentation, facial shape, height, musculature, brain size, athleticism, intelligence, body shape and so on?
It's not even close really. Autosomal always says more about a individual than Y-DNA.

[Rethel]

Autosomal always says more about a individual than Y-DNA.

You probably don;t understand what you just had said. :)

YES. AU say a lot about INDIVIDUAL - baout his biological healthy problems and features.
Nothing more, and nothing less. It doesn;t says who you are inheritable, neither, where
are you coming form, as in such sup, everyone has everything. And as genetics generally
doesn;t matter at all, as also Y hg doesn;t, then Y says who you are, not becasue is some
special feature of superman or weakman, but becasue is a genealogical proof, the same as
a proof is certificate of birth. The hg as genetic hg per se is meaningless, the same as any
other hg of any other genetic feature. But this one kind of hg bears another information,
which cannot be (but should be) known by other way, and which is relevant, important.

[Gangrel]

dont mean shit tbh

[Slowdive]

This guy's videos are like he's reading racial pseudoscience

So pretty much like browsing on TA? haha

[Rethel]

Dick,
and where is this last difender of craziest-I1-theories
(as you suggested) whom you did invite here?

[Norb]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AabWNnVbXUU

[Rethel]

It was allready here, even twice.

[Norb]

It was allready here, even twice.

I just found it lol. What do you think of this guy?

[Norb]

It's still not close to autosomal DNA. I don't give a shit a R1b afro-American is not more like a R1b Englishman than even a J2 Englishman. I don't think you should take the idea that "it's of no importance" literally. It's just not what most people who first discover haplogroups think it is. The part of my DNA I exclusively get from my father that was exclusively passed down by patriarchal lineage must have some sort of special function. However does that affect me more than my overall genome that would control stuff like pigmentation, facial shape, height, musculature, brain size, athleticism, intelligence, body shape and so on?
It's not even close really. Autosomal always says more about a individual than Y-DNA.

What if you have a subclade that you can link your phenotype to? I agree with you that the fathers DNA must have a function and so does the DNA that controls facial bone structure, body type etc..

[Rethel]

I just found it lol. What do you think of this guy?

A freak who is IE-wannabe and who belives in long dead ficional fairy cults (re)created by himself...

At least his wannabeism produces sometimes something useful, like some stuff in this video.

Exept that exeption (which is like 0.01% of his productivity) he is
just raving, spreading clearly satanistic idiotic pagan retarded stuff.

[Norb]

A freak who is IE-wannabe and who belives in long dead ficional fairy cults (re)created by himself...

At least his wannabeism produces sometimes something useful, like some stuff in this video.

Exept that exeption (which is like 0.01% of his productivity) he is
just raving, spreading clearly satanistic idiotic pagan retarded stuff.

what parts do you think is true in the video?

[Rethel]

what parts do you think is true in the video?

When he finally gets, why hg matters - becasue it is
the way, how people live, think, feel, and what history
and literature witness about, and tradition and law teach.

I would have to yet watch it once, becasue don't remember everything.
Maybe later.

[Methuselah]

Very informative stuff! You can always ask a biology teacher about those things as well next time you see one around... (if you don't trust that youtuber)