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Adoptee
11-18-2017, 05:02 AM
I've posted here a few times about how my GEDmatch results indicate some amount of Jewish ancestry or at least that theres a theme of it. As someone whos adopted I can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the Jewish ancestry, here's the mixed mode pop results from a few of my GEDmatch calcs.

MDLP World:

1 93% CEU + 7% Samaritian @ 0.97
2 80.3% Welsh + 19.7% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.14
3 74.3% CEU_V + 25.7% Romania @ 1.16
4 83.4% CEU + 16.6% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.16
5 92.7% CEU + 7.3% Palestinian @ 1.19
6 89.4% Welsh + 10.6% Jew_Syria @ 1.19
7 71% Norwegian_V + 29% Italian-North @ 1.23
8 87.7% Austrian + 12.3% Romania @ 1.25
9 90.5% Welsh + 9.5% Druze @ 1.25
10 83.9% Welsh + 16.1% Jew_Romania @ 1.26
11 86.5% Welsh + 13.5% Ashkenazim @ 1.28
12 90.3% Welsh + 9.7% Lebanese @ 1.3
13 88.9% Welsh + 11.1% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.3
14 87.6% Austrian + 12.4% Italian_North @ 1.31
15 90.8% CEU + 9.2% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.31
16 92.2% Austrian + 7.8% Kosovar @ 1.31
17 91.3% Austrian + 8.7% Italian-North @ 1.32
18 74.5% Czech + 25.5% Kosovar @ 1.33
19 85.9% Austrian + 14.1% Provancal @ 1.33
20 92% Austrian + 8% Corsican @ 1.33

Dodecad 12b
1 80.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.21
2 72% Dutch (Dodecad) + 28% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.4
3 80.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.4
4 72.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 27.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.49
5 84% Kent (1000Genomes) + 16% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.52
6 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
7 77.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 22.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.57
8 84% Kent (1000Genomes) + 16% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.58
9 82.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.6
10 77.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 22.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.6
11 83% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.6
12 82.8% English (Dodecad) + 17.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.61
13 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.61
14 81.5% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18.5% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.62
15 82.8% English (Dodecad) + 17.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.63
16 73.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 26.1% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.66
17 63.7% German (Dodecad) + 36.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.67
18 84.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.69
19 78.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 21.9% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.7
20 78.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 21.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.72


Dodecad K7b
1 90% British (Dodecad) + 10% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
2 89.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
3 89.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.86
4 90.1% British (Dodecad) + 9.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.87
5 89.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.93
6 92.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.98
7 84.9% British (Dodecad) + 15.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.01
8 84.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.02
9 92.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.03
10 89.6% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.03
11 82.4% British (Dodecad) + 17.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.06
12 82.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.06
13 74.1% British (Dodecad) + 25.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.1
14 88.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 11.6% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.11
15 89.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.11
16 73.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 26.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.11
17 84.9% British (Dodecad) + 15.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.12
18 84.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14
19 82.4% British (Dodecad) + 17.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14
20 82.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14

Dodecad World9
1 92.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 7.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.18
2 91.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 8.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.19
3 70.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 29.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.22
4 89.2% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 10.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.23
5 90.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 9.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.24
6 91.8% British (Dodecad) + 8.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.25
7 87.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 12.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.26
8 63.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 36.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.27
9 72% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 28% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.28
10 87.7% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 12.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.28
11 85.8% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.29
12 90.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 9.6% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.3
13 89.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.31
14 85.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 14.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.32
15 85.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.32
16 78% British (Dodecad) + 22% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.33
17 85.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 14.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
18 87.3% British (Dodecad) + 12.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
19 85.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.34
20 83.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 16.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.34

Ancient Eurasia K6
1 64.7% Jew_Iranian + 35.3% WHG @ 1
2 64.7% Jew_Iranian + 35.3% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1
3 66.4% Sardinian + 33.6% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 1.25
4 67.6% Steppe_MLBA + 32.4% Europe_EN @ 1.28
5 59.4% Steppe_MLBA + 40.6% Sardinian @ 1.45
6 73.8% Armenia_ChL + 26.2% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.53
7 73.8% Armenia_ChL + 26.2% WHG @ 1.53
8 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Levant_BA @ 1.55
9 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.55
10 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% WHG @ 1.55
11 89.9% Scottish + 10.1% Druze @ 1.56
12 69.8% Scottish + 30.2% Bulgarian @ 1.57
13 84.3% Scottish + 15.7% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 1.58
14 90.9% Scottish + 9.1% Saudi @ 1.58
15 80% Scottish + 20% Greek @ 1.6
16 82.9% Scottish + 17.1% Sicilian @ 1.61
17 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Jew_Yemenite @ 1.61
18 89% Scottish + 11% Cypriot @ 1.63
19 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Andamanese @ 1.64
20 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Australian @ 1.64

Hudayar
11-18-2017, 05:07 AM
"Jew" is just a reference population.
It indicates that you have med ancestry
see Greek, Cypriot etc

Adoptee
11-18-2017, 05:17 AM
"Jew" is just a reference population.
It indicates that you have med ancestry
see Greek, Cypriot etc

Would would you think my ancestral origin would be based on this?

Hudayar
11-18-2017, 05:19 AM
Would would you think my ancestral origin would be based on this?

The calculator says you're an Anglo. Some anglos have med influence in them. You're one of them, it's not like you have any recent med admixture in you.

Though your med admixture seems a bit middle eastern.

Adoptee
11-18-2017, 05:21 AM
The calculator says you're an Anglo. Some anglos have med influence in them. You're one of them, it's not like you have any recent med admixture in you.

Though your med admixture seems a bit middle eastern.

Thanks. Sorry I've really new to the DNA genealogy thing so I don't know much about how this stuff works

Hadouken
11-18-2017, 05:52 AM
I get the same and I dont have jewish ancestry

oszkar07
11-18-2017, 08:28 AM
I've posted here a few times about how my GEDmatch results indicate some amount of Jewish ancestry or at least that theres a theme of it. As someone whos adopted I can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the Jewish ancestry, here's the mixed mode pop results from a few of my GEDmatch calcs.

MDLP World:

1 93% CEU + 7% Samaritian @ 0.97
2 80.3% Welsh + 19.7% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.14
3 74.3% CEU_V + 25.7% Romania @ 1.16
4 83.4% CEU + 16.6% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.16
5 92.7% CEU + 7.3% Palestinian @ 1.19
6 89.4% Welsh + 10.6% Jew_Syria @ 1.19
7 71% Norwegian_V + 29% Italian-North @ 1.23
8 87.7% Austrian + 12.3% Romania @ 1.25
9 90.5% Welsh + 9.5% Druze @ 1.25
10 83.9% Welsh + 16.1% Jew_Romania @ 1.26
11 86.5% Welsh + 13.5% Ashkenazim @ 1.28
12 90.3% Welsh + 9.7% Lebanese @ 1.3
13 88.9% Welsh + 11.1% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.3
14 87.6% Austrian + 12.4% Italian_North @ 1.31
15 90.8% CEU + 9.2% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.31
16 92.2% Austrian + 7.8% Kosovar @ 1.31
17 91.3% Austrian + 8.7% Italian-North @ 1.32
18 74.5% Czech + 25.5% Kosovar @ 1.33
19 85.9% Austrian + 14.1% Provancal @ 1.33
20 92% Austrian + 8% Corsican @ 1.33

Dodecad 12b
1 80.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.21
2 72% Dutch (Dodecad) + 28% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.4
3 80.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.4
4 72.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 27.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.49
5 84% Kent (1000Genomes) + 16% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.52
6 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
7 77.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 22.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.57
8 84% Kent (1000Genomes) + 16% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.58
9 82.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.6
10 77.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 22.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.6
11 83% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.6
12 82.8% English (Dodecad) + 17.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.61
13 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.61
14 81.5% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18.5% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.62
15 82.8% English (Dodecad) + 17.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.63
16 73.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 26.1% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.66
17 63.7% German (Dodecad) + 36.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.67
18 84.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.69
19 78.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 21.9% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.7
20 78.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 21.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.72


Dodecad K7b
1 90% British (Dodecad) + 10% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
2 89.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
3 89.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.86
4 90.1% British (Dodecad) + 9.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.87
5 89.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.93
6 92.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.98
7 84.9% British (Dodecad) + 15.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.01
8 84.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.02
9 92.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.03
10 89.6% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.03
11 82.4% British (Dodecad) + 17.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.06
12 82.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.06
13 74.1% British (Dodecad) + 25.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.1
14 88.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 11.6% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.11
15 89.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.11
16 73.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 26.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.11
17 84.9% British (Dodecad) + 15.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.12
18 84.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14
19 82.4% British (Dodecad) + 17.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14
20 82.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14

Dodecad World9
1 92.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 7.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.18
2 91.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 8.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.19
3 70.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 29.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.22
4 89.2% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 10.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.23
5 90.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 9.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.24
6 91.8% British (Dodecad) + 8.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.25
7 87.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 12.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.26
8 63.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 36.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.27
9 72% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 28% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.28
10 87.7% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 12.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.28
11 85.8% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.29
12 90.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 9.6% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.3
13 89.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.31
14 85.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 14.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.32
15 85.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.32
16 78% British (Dodecad) + 22% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.33
17 85.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 14.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
18 87.3% British (Dodecad) + 12.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
19 85.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.34
20 83.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 16.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.34

Ancient Eurasia K6
1 64.7% Jew_Iranian + 35.3% WHG @ 1
2 64.7% Jew_Iranian + 35.3% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1
3 66.4% Sardinian + 33.6% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 1.25
4 67.6% Steppe_MLBA + 32.4% Europe_EN @ 1.28
5 59.4% Steppe_MLBA + 40.6% Sardinian @ 1.45
6 73.8% Armenia_ChL + 26.2% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.53
7 73.8% Armenia_ChL + 26.2% WHG @ 1.53
8 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Levant_BA @ 1.55
9 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.55
10 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% WHG @ 1.55
11 89.9% Scottish + 10.1% Druze @ 1.56
12 69.8% Scottish + 30.2% Bulgarian @ 1.57
13 84.3% Scottish + 15.7% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 1.58
14 90.9% Scottish + 9.1% Saudi @ 1.58
15 80% Scottish + 20% Greek @ 1.6
16 82.9% Scottish + 17.1% Sicilian @ 1.61
17 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Jew_Yemenite @ 1.61
18 89% Scottish + 11% Cypriot @ 1.63
19 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Andamanese @ 1.64
20 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Australian @ 1.64

What do u get on DNALand ? or the commercial site you tested with.

Im no expert but based on the calc results u presented I would think its possible you have distant Jew ancestry, or otherwise populations that cluster close to them eg South Italian .

How much Ashkenazi do you get on the Eurogenes Jtest ?

Antimage
11-18-2017, 09:11 AM
Post your face for guessing..

Adoptee
11-18-2017, 11:36 PM
Post your face for guessing..

I'm willing to PM it to anyone who wants to guess but I'd prefer not to post it to the site, if you don't mind

Adoptee
11-18-2017, 11:38 PM
What do u get on DNALand ? or the commercial site you tested with.

Im no expert but based on the calc results u presented I would think its possible you have distant Jew ancestry, or otherwise populations that cluster close to them eg South Italian .

How much Ashkenazi do you get on the Eurogenes Jtest ?

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Would you mind guessing my ancestry based on this?

Token
11-18-2017, 11:38 PM
You certainly have some Jewish ancestry.

Gangrel
11-18-2017, 11:41 PM
Looking at your results, imo you are predominantly British with some Jewish ancestry

Smeagol
11-18-2017, 11:50 PM
You appear to have between 1/8 and 1/4 Jewish ancestry.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 12:22 AM
You certainly have some Jewish ancestry.

Is there a better way to find out how much I have?

Anglojew
11-19-2017, 12:23 AM
You probably have a Jewish great-grandparent

Smeagol
11-19-2017, 12:25 AM
You probably have a Jewish great-grandparent

Seems to be a bit more than that, he's getting 16-19% Ashkenazi. He's probably that with the remainder being British.

Token
11-19-2017, 12:30 AM
Is there a better way to find out how much I have?

23andme is the best genetic test for people with Jewish ancestry, i recommend it if you are interested but you certainly have some, probably between 1/4-1/8 like others already said.

Ashlyn
11-19-2017, 12:44 AM
Except for the simple fact dodecad has some muttish references, the Scandinavian for example per people used for it, there's a possibility you don't have Jewish ancestry. These tests, like with 23&me, can't separate legitimate Jewish from certain similar populations at low enough levels. Been implied over & over again when 23&me can't identify Italian, for example, from Ashkenazi as lower levels. They don't tell you that in the 'fine print' because it doesn't sell.

If you did have Jewish ancestry, at the level indicated, you should have a number of relatives with obvious Jewish surnames because of the segregation and intermarriage. Do you? If you don't, then it's confusing some Mediterranean type or some other type ancestry as "Jewish".

Hadouken
11-19-2017, 12:50 AM
as I said before I have a jewish shift but no jewish ancestry . I wouldnt be too quick in making assumptions that OP is partially jewish

86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.93
85.3% Kurdish + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
85.6% Kurdish + 14.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.09
86.5% Kurdish + 13.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.13
86.7% Kurdish + 13.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.46

83.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 16.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.34
83.4% Kurd (Dodecad) + 16.6% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.44
81.7% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.52

50% Georgian_Jew +25% Kurd_SE +25% Sicilian @ 1.495526

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 12:52 AM
If you did have Jewish ancestry, at the level indicated, you should have a number of relatives with obvious Jewish surnames because of the segregation and intermarriage. Do you? If you don't, then it's confusing some Mediterranean type ancestry as "Jewish".

I have GEDmatch relatives with names like Silverman, Friedman, Rosenthal etc. But I don't think that's a guarantee that they're Jewish

Hudayar
11-19-2017, 12:54 AM
here some Turkish results

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.520825


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_ +25% Turk_Jew_ +25% Uygur-Han_ @ 2.917146


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Baku_WGA_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Hazara_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 2.205894
2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.257351
3 Greek_Phokaia_ + Kurd_North_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.273196
4 Baku_WGA_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Hazara_ + Turk_Jew_ @ 2.290463
5 Azeri_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.310437
6 Baku_WGA_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Hazara_ + Italian_Jew_ @ 2.313341
7 Baku_WGA_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.323666
8 Baku_WGA_ + Cretan_ + Italian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.330387
9 Baku_WGA_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.331061
10 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.358675
11 Baku_WGA_ + Cretan_ + Turk_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.364714
12 Greek_Phokaia_ + Hazara_ + Kurd_ + Turk_Jew_ @ 2.373636
13 Greek_Phokaia_ + Kurd_East_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.374697
14 Baku_WGA_ + Hazara_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Turk_Jew_ @ 2.375875
15 Greek_Phokaia_ + Hazara_ + Italian_Jew_ + Kurd_ @ 2.386035
16 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Sicilian_Siracusa_ + Turk_ + Uygur_ @ 2.390478
17 Baku_WGA_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Turk_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.394330
18 Kurd_North_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.406056
19 Greek_Phokaia_ + Kurd_South_ + Syrian_Jew_ + Uygur_ @ 2.415662
20 Ashkenazi_Jew_ + Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Turk_ + Uygur_ @ 2.432405


1 50% Ashkenazi_Dodecad +50% Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 6.313658

1 50% Turkish_Jew +50% Uzbek @ 3.628577



Jew on gedmatch=!actual Jewish heritage

Ashlyn
11-19-2017, 12:58 AM
I have GEDmatch relatives with names like Silverman, Friedman, Rosenthal etc. But I don't think that's a guarantee that they're Jewish

A lot? If not, likely not. And no surnames don't guarantee Jewish ancestry.

Dick
11-19-2017, 01:08 AM
I've posted here a few times about how my GEDmatch results indicate some amount of Jewish ancestry or at least that theres a theme of it. As someone whos adopted I can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the Jewish ancestry, here's the mixed mode pop results from a few of my GEDmatch calcs.

MDLP World:

1 93% CEU + 7% Samaritian @ 0.97
2 80.3% Welsh + 19.7% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.14
3 74.3% CEU_V + 25.7% Romania @ 1.16
4 83.4% CEU + 16.6% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.16
5 92.7% CEU + 7.3% Palestinian @ 1.19
6 89.4% Welsh + 10.6% Jew_Syria @ 1.19
7 71% Norwegian_V + 29% Italian-North @ 1.23
8 87.7% Austrian + 12.3% Romania @ 1.25
9 90.5% Welsh + 9.5% Druze @ 1.25
10 83.9% Welsh + 16.1% Jew_Romania @ 1.26
11 86.5% Welsh + 13.5% Ashkenazim @ 1.28
12 90.3% Welsh + 9.7% Lebanese @ 1.3
13 88.9% Welsh + 11.1% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.3
14 87.6% Austrian + 12.4% Italian_North @ 1.31
15 90.8% CEU + 9.2% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.31
16 92.2% Austrian + 7.8% Kosovar @ 1.31
17 91.3% Austrian + 8.7% Italian-North @ 1.32
18 74.5% Czech + 25.5% Kosovar @ 1.33
19 85.9% Austrian + 14.1% Provancal @ 1.33
20 92% Austrian + 8% Corsican @ 1.33

Dodecad 12b
1 80.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.21
2 72% Dutch (Dodecad) + 28% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.4
3 80.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.4
4 72.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 27.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.49
5 84% Kent (1000Genomes) + 16% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.52
6 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
7 77.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 22.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.57
8 84% Kent (1000Genomes) + 16% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.58
9 82.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.6
10 77.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 22.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.6
11 83% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 17% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.6
12 82.8% English (Dodecad) + 17.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.61
13 79.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 20.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.61
14 81.5% Kent (1000Genomes) + 18.5% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.62
15 82.8% English (Dodecad) + 17.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.63
16 73.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 26.1% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.66
17 63.7% German (Dodecad) + 36.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.67
18 84.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.69
19 78.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 21.9% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.7
20 78.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 21.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.72


Dodecad K7b
1 90% British (Dodecad) + 10% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
2 89.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
3 89.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 10.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.86
4 90.1% British (Dodecad) + 9.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.87
5 89.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.93
6 92.7% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 0.98
7 84.9% British (Dodecad) + 15.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.01
8 84.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.02
9 92.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) + 7.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.03
10 89.6% Irish (Dodecad) + 10.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.03
11 82.4% British (Dodecad) + 17.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.06
12 82.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.06
13 74.1% British (Dodecad) + 25.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.1
14 88.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 11.6% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.11
15 89.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.11
16 73.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 26.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.11
17 84.9% British (Dodecad) + 15.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.12
18 84.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 15.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14
19 82.4% British (Dodecad) + 17.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14
20 82.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.14

Dodecad World9
1 92.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 7.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.18
2 91.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 8.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.19
3 70.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 29.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.22
4 89.2% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 10.8% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.23
5 90.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 9.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.24
6 91.8% British (Dodecad) + 8.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.25
7 87.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 12.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.26
8 63.3% Orcadian (HGDP) + 36.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.27
9 72% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 28% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.28
10 87.7% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 12.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.28
11 85.8% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.29
12 90.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 9.6% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.3
13 89.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 10.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.31
14 85.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 14.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.32
15 85.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.32
16 78% British (Dodecad) + 22% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.33
17 85.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 14.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
18 87.3% British (Dodecad) + 12.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.33
19 85.3% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.34
20 83.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 16.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.34

Ancient Eurasia K6
1 64.7% Jew_Iranian + 35.3% WHG @ 1
2 64.7% Jew_Iranian + 35.3% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1
3 66.4% Sardinian + 33.6% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 1.25
4 67.6% Steppe_MLBA + 32.4% Europe_EN @ 1.28
5 59.4% Steppe_MLBA + 40.6% Sardinian @ 1.45
6 73.8% Armenia_ChL + 26.2% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.53
7 73.8% Armenia_ChL + 26.2% WHG @ 1.53
8 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Levant_BA @ 1.55
9 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.55
10 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% WHG @ 1.55
11 89.9% Scottish + 10.1% Druze @ 1.56
12 69.8% Scottish + 30.2% Bulgarian @ 1.57
13 84.3% Scottish + 15.7% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 1.58
14 90.9% Scottish + 9.1% Saudi @ 1.58
15 80% Scottish + 20% Greek @ 1.6
16 82.9% Scottish + 17.1% Sicilian @ 1.61
17 91.2% Scottish + 8.8% Jew_Yemenite @ 1.61
18 89% Scottish + 11% Cypriot @ 1.63
19 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Andamanese @ 1.64
20 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Australian @ 1.64

Nah, you might have south Med/italian or Balkan ancestry. Don't take Gedmatch oracles as something set in stone. For example mine, I have zero ancestry from these pops. It means that you're modeled as etc. + etc.

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.3% Norwegian + 38.7% Italian_South @ 1.1
2 69.1% Icelandic + 30.9% Cypriot @ 1.12
3 54.7% Europe_LNBA + 45.3% Italian_South @ 1.19
4 56.5% Icelandic + 43.5% Italian_South @ 1.23
5 52.2% Norwegian + 47.8% Greek @ 1.31

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 01:21 AM
Nah, you might have south Med/italian or Balkan ancestry. Don't take Gedmatch oracles as something set in stone. For example mine, I have zero ancestry from these pops. It means that you're modeled as etc. + etc.

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.3% Norwegian + 38.7% Italian_South @ 1.1
2 69.1% Icelandic + 30.9% Cypriot @ 1.12
3 54.7% Europe_LNBA + 45.3% Italian_South @ 1.19
4 56.5% Icelandic + 43.5% Italian_South @ 1.23
5 52.2% Norwegian + 47.8% Greek @ 1.31

Yeah, DNA.LAND does give me 27% Balkan. Are the two often confused?
69929

Dick
11-19-2017, 01:25 AM
Yeah, DNA.LAND does give me 27% Balkan. Are the two often confused?
69929

Yes, you probably have Balkan ancestry.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 01:36 AM
Yes, you probably have Balkan ancestry.

In that case, what's a good test for Balkan ancestry?

Ashlyn
11-19-2017, 01:39 AM
I've posted here a few times about how my GEDmatch results indicate some amount of Jewish ancestry or at least that theres a theme of it. As someone whos adopted I can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the Jewish ancestry, here's the mixed mode pop results from a few of my GEDmatch calcs.

Just so you know some Brits - Welsh in particular - can have DNA that is "similar" Jewish or Ashkenazi DNA. I've a Welsh friend who gets "Jewish" everywhere, she's not. Balkan can be confused too. Mediterranean can be mistaken as Jewish.

As Dick said these estimates are not set in stone [they merely judge the best fit]. A better bet to find answers is possibly turn to your genetic relatives. It may take time, and you might not get any immediate response, but there's always that option. Possibly more accurate to boot.

Dick
11-19-2017, 01:40 AM
In that case, what's a good test for Balkan ancestry?

Drink a whole bottle of slivovitz. If you live, you have Balkan ancestry. If you die, then RIP.

magyar_lány
11-19-2017, 01:41 AM
mazel tov.

oszkar07
11-19-2017, 01:44 AM
69928
Would you mind guessing my ancestry based on this?

Based on that result I think you have some mixed background.
Most likely predominantly NW Euro ...British or similiar, then some type of East Med or Balkan ancestry.
It seems you have not been given any Ashkenazi or other Jewish % on the site you tested with as you would have mentioned it and Im guessing you didnt get much Ashkenazi in the Jtest ?
If you have Jewish in you I would imagine its distant considering its not been picked up as Jewish in most of the Commercial sites you tried.
As for surname matches are you referring to Ydna or autosomal, if they are Ydna I think it depends what match level they are , like I think 12 level matches practically just show people who have same Haplogroup with possible minimal relatedness, for me I get 12 level matches on FTDNA from Russians to Brits, and many countries from all over Europe, surnames range through many ethnicities, but because they are 12 level matches I dont
take them too seriously.
Your autosomal matches may give you some indication.

jingorex
11-19-2017, 01:50 AM
sorry bro.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 01:52 AM
Based on that result I think you have some mixed background.
Most likely predominantly NW Euro ...British or similiar, then some type of East Med or Balkan ancestry.
It seems you have not been given any Ashkenazi or other Jewish % on the site you tested with as you would have mentioned it and Im guessing you didnt get much Ashkenazi in the Jtest ?
If you have Jewish in you I would imagine its distant considering its not been picked up as Jewish in most of the Commercial sites you tried.
As for surname matches are you referring to Ydna or autosomal, if they are Ydna I think it depends what match level they are , like I think 12 level matches practically just show people who have same Haplogroup with possible minimal relatedness, for me I get 12 level matches on FTDNA from Russians to Brits, and many countries from all over Europe, surnames range through many ethnicities, but because they are 12 level matches I dont
take them too seriously.
Your autosomal matches may give you some indication.

Family tree DNA doesn't indicate any Jewish ancestry
https://imgur.com/a/YYPek

Dick
11-19-2017, 01:54 AM
Family tree DNA doesn't indicate any Jewish ancestry
https://imgur.com/a/YYPek

You have some south Slav ancestry for sure.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 01:55 AM
You have some south Slav ancestry for sure.

One of my closest GEDmatch relatives is half Croatian. No telling if we're related on that side but who knows

Ashlyn
11-19-2017, 02:31 AM
One of my closest GEDmatch relatives is half Croatian. No telling if we're related on that side but who knows

No harm in asking.

Myanthropologies
11-19-2017, 02:44 AM
The calculator says you're an Anglo. Some anglos have med influence in them. You're one of them, it's not like you have any recent med admixture in you.

Though your med admixture seems a bit middle eastern.

I think that in his case it is way too significant and that he likely has jewish admixture. if I were him, I would see if it's on his mothers side and use that to my advantage to go on birthright to Israel for free (if he's not 25 yet) lmao.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 02:50 AM
I think that in his case it is way too significant and that he likely has jewish admixture. if I were him, I would see if it's on his mothers side and use that to my advantage to go on birthright to Israel for free (if he's not 25 yet) lmao.

I'm adopted, there's no way to know for sure what side it would be on until/unless I find out who my birth parents were :(

Myanthropologies
11-19-2017, 02:57 AM
I'm adopted, there's no way to know for sure what side it would be on until/unless I find out who my birth parents were :(

you could figure out potentially, by seeing what your mt-dna is.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 03:00 AM
you could figure out potentially, by seeing what your mt-dna is.

Is there an accurate way to do this that doesn't cost a lot of money? Lol.

Ashlyn
11-19-2017, 03:39 AM
you could figure out potentially, by seeing what your mt-dna is.

Doesn't necessitate he's Jewish even by mt-dna. There's some shared between Jewish & non-Jewish. K1a1b1a, for example, is found in non-Jewish populations.


He should try asking his genetic relatives if they know anything. It might tell him some of his family history, stories, etc., maybe even why he ended up being adopted. In this sense of ancestry that's not something DNA can do.

Kamal900
11-19-2017, 04:06 AM
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MDLP World:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Middle_East 35.42
2 Caucaus_Parsia 29.37
3 South_and_West_European 26.56
4 Sub_Saharian 3.31
5 Indian 2.74


Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese @ 3.882738
2 Druze @ 5.056591
3 Syrian @ 6.278545
4 Jew_Syria @ 6.992730
5 Jew_Georgia @ 9.738699
6 Iraqi @ 11.197386
7 Cypriot @ 11.646123
8 Jordanian @ 12.097345
9 Jew-Iraqi @ 12.445900
10 Jew_Iraqi @ 13.348082
11 Palestinian @ 13.726411
12 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 14.389690
13 Jew_Tunisia @ 14.688024
14 Jew-Uzbekistan @ 15.347178
15 Jew_Libya @ 15.624874
16 Jew-Iran @ 15.722409
17 Jew_Tat @ 15.787554
18 Jew_Algeria @ 16.144531
19 Jew_Kurd @ 16.220694
20 Turk @ 17.677645

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Jew_Syria +50% Syrian @ 2.643607


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +25% Jew_Morocco +25% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.290209


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Otzi + Iranian + Georgian_Imereti + Saudi @ 1.863871
2 Cypriot + Iraqi + Iraqi + Jew_Libya @ 1.973132
3 Iraqi + Sephardim + Syrian + Druze @ 2.187007
4 Iraqi + Lebanese + Sephardim + Syrian @ 2.234914
5 Cypriot + Jew_Syria + Iraqi + Jordanian @ 2.241173
6 Iraqi + Jew_Morocco + Palestinian + Armenian @ 2.251378
7 Cypriot + Iranian + Jew_Tunisia + Palestinian @ 2.256087
8 Cypriot + Iraqi + Iraqi + Jew_Tunisia @ 2.284222
9 Syrian + Syrian + Jew_Morocco + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.290209
10 Jew_Algeria + Iraqi + Syrian + Druze @ 2.308335
11 Jew_Algeria + Iraqi + Lebanese + Druze @ 2.313282
12 Iraqi + Iraqi + Druze + Jew_Morocco @ 2.319612
13 Jew_Syria + Iraqi + Iraqi + Jew_Morocco @ 2.321520
14 Cypriot + Cypriot + Iraqi + Jordanian @ 2.344059
15 Lebanese + Jordanian + Sephardim + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.355259
16 Jew_Algeria + Iraqi + Lebanese + Lebanese @ 2.374406
17 Iraqi + Syrian + Druze + Jew_Morocco @ 2.375062
18 Lebanese + Syrian + Jew_Morocco + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.411236
19 Cypriot + Cypriot + Jew_Azerbaijan + Yemen @ 2.414804
20 Jordanian + Syrian + Jew_Morocco + Armenian @ 2.426842

Dodecad K7b:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 42.78
2 West_Asian 37.17
3 Atlantic_Baltic 12.50
4 African 3.84
5 South_Asian 2.85


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
7 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Behar @ 2.703589
2 Syrians_Behar @ 3.668811
3 Druze_HGDP @ 6.118876
4 Jordanians_Behar @ 6.905716
5 Cypriots_Behar @ 8.340763
6 Palestinian_HGDP @ 8.431184
7 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 15.086966
8 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 15.177906
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 15.197178
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.284419
11 Samaritians_Behar @ 15.454638
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 15.666408
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 15.986248
14 Bedouin_HGDP @ 16.030239
15 Turks_Behar @ 16.241396
16 Armenian_Dodecad @ 16.360495
17 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 17.058035
18 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 17.379095
19 Yemenese_Behar @ 18.194313
20 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 18.318701

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Behar +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 2.703589


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iraq_Jews_Behar +25% Kurds_Yunusbayev +25% Moroccan_Dodecad @ 1.688629


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.034420
2 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.064295
3 Bedouin_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.149213
4 Iranians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.208554
5 Bedouin_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.220102
6 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.282130
7 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.287783
8 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.295466
9 Assyrian_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.337915
10 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.351396
11 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.356247
12 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.380109
13 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.385911
14 Bedouin_HGDP + Kurd_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.391826
15 Assyrian_Dodecad + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.403753
16 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.411527
17 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.425218
18 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Samaritians_Behar + Yemenese_Behar @ 1.435638
19 Bedouin_HGDP + Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.436170
20 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.436773

Dodecad K12b:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.80
3 Atlantic_Med 14.21
4 Gedrosia 12.86
5 Northwest_African 5.00
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.95
8 South_Asian 1.54


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Behar @ 5.542099
2 Syrians_Behar @ 7.861998
3 Jordanians_Behar @ 8.314487
4 Palestinian_HGDP @ 11.553473
5 Druze_HGDP @ 12.775885
6 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 13.220867
7 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 13.951524
8 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 15.624302
9 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 16.112579
10 Cypriots_Behar @ 16.163862
11 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 17.255264
12 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 17.261137
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 17.445190
14 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 17.525991
15 Turks_Behar @ 17.526476
16 Turkish_Dodecad @ 17.610006
17 Samaritians_Behar @ 18.233837
18 Egyptans_Behar @ 19.932726
19 Kurd_Dodecad @ 20.661077
20 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 20.723112

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Behar +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 5.542099


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jordanians_Behar +25% Kurd_Dodecad +25% Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.943974


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.630146
2 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.737514
3 Jordanians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.813558
4 Iranians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.871653
5 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.894177
6 Iranian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.912480
7 Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.917817
8 Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.943974
9 Jordanians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.990946
10 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.995862
11 Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.036665
12 Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.049291
13 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.095435
14 Iranian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.134742
15 Jordanians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.145469
16 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.152212
17 Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.179514
18 Druze_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.196681
19 Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.206628
20 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.235663

Dodecad World9:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 43.79
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 36.16
3 Atlantic_Baltic 12.69
4 African 3.79
5 South_Asian 2.39
6 East_Asian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Behar @ 2.353862
2 Syrians_Behar @ 4.054829
3 Druze_HGDP @ 5.695301
4 Jordanians_Behar @ 8.027712
5 Cypriots_Behar @ 8.812212
6 Palestinian_HGDP @ 8.904497
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 9.805931
8 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 14.264633
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 14.315379
10 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 14.391229
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 14.889322
12 Samaritians_Behar @ 15.175529
13 Armenian_Dodecad @ 15.619842
14 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.684603
15 Armenians_Yunusbayev @ 16.607557
16 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 16.675928
17 Turks_Behar @ 16.684025
18 Armenians_Behar @ 16.932611
19 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 18.657032
20 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 19.610973

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Behar +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 2.353862


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian_HGDP +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.747289


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
1 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.006943
2 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.008848
3 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.031823
4 Iranian_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.046788
5 Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.053107
6 Kurd_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.142349
7 Bedouin_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.145014
8 Kurd_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.193001
9 Bedouin_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar @ 1.196377
10 Iranian_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.219022
11 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.241383
12 S_Italian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.267400
13 Iranian_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.278587
14 Lebanese_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.321038
15 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.350730
16 Kurd_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.350744
17 Kurd_Dodecad + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.356736
18 Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.383747
19 Iranian_Dodecad + Palestinian_HGDP + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.395123
20 Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.403971

So, I'm far more Jewish genetically than you, and that the reason why you have genetic relations with the Ashkenazim is simply because of shared Mediterranean genes rather than direct Jewish ancestry.

Hadouken
11-19-2017, 04:07 AM
mccree and me get chased xD

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 04:07 AM
MDLP World:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Middle_East 35.42
2 Caucaus_Parsia 29.37
3 South_and_West_European 26.56
4 Sub_Saharian 3.31
5 Indian 2.74


Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese @ 3.882738
2 Druze @ 5.056591
3 Syrian @ 6.278545
4 Jew_Syria @ 6.992730
5 Jew_Georgia @ 9.738699
6 Iraqi @ 11.197386
7 Cypriot @ 11.646123
8 Jordanian @ 12.097345
9 Jew-Iraqi @ 12.445900
10 Jew_Iraqi @ 13.348082
11 Palestinian @ 13.726411
12 Jew_Azerbaijan @ 14.389690
13 Jew_Tunisia @ 14.688024
14 Jew-Uzbekistan @ 15.347178
15 Jew_Libya @ 15.624874
16 Jew-Iran @ 15.722409
17 Jew_Tat @ 15.787554
18 Jew_Algeria @ 16.144531
19 Jew_Kurd @ 16.220694
20 Turk @ 17.677645

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Jew_Syria +50% Syrian @ 2.643607


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +25% Jew_Morocco +25% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.290209


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Otzi + Iranian + Georgian_Imereti + Saudi @ 1.863871
2 Cypriot + Iraqi + Iraqi + Jew_Libya @ 1.973132
3 Iraqi + Sephardim + Syrian + Druze @ 2.187007
4 Iraqi + Lebanese + Sephardim + Syrian @ 2.234914
5 Cypriot + Jew_Syria + Iraqi + Jordanian @ 2.241173
6 Iraqi + Jew_Morocco + Palestinian + Armenian @ 2.251378
7 Cypriot + Iranian + Jew_Tunisia + Palestinian @ 2.256087
8 Cypriot + Iraqi + Iraqi + Jew_Tunisia @ 2.284222
9 Syrian + Syrian + Jew_Morocco + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.290209
10 Jew_Algeria + Iraqi + Syrian + Druze @ 2.308335
11 Jew_Algeria + Iraqi + Lebanese + Druze @ 2.313282
12 Iraqi + Iraqi + Druze + Jew_Morocco @ 2.319612
13 Jew_Syria + Iraqi + Iraqi + Jew_Morocco @ 2.321520
14 Cypriot + Cypriot + Iraqi + Jordanian @ 2.344059
15 Lebanese + Jordanian + Sephardim + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.355259
16 Jew_Algeria + Iraqi + Lebanese + Lebanese @ 2.374406
17 Iraqi + Syrian + Druze + Jew_Morocco @ 2.375062
18 Lebanese + Syrian + Jew_Morocco + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 2.411236
19 Cypriot + Cypriot + Jew_Azerbaijan + Yemen @ 2.414804
20 Jordanian + Syrian + Jew_Morocco + Armenian @ 2.426842

Dodecad K7b:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 42.78
2 West_Asian 37.17
3 Atlantic_Baltic 12.50
4 African 3.84
5 South_Asian 2.85


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
7 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Behar @ 2.703589
2 Syrians_Behar @ 3.668811
3 Druze_HGDP @ 6.118876
4 Jordanians_Behar @ 6.905716
5 Cypriots_Behar @ 8.340763
6 Palestinian_HGDP @ 8.431184
7 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 15.086966
8 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 15.177906
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 15.197178
10 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.284419
11 Samaritians_Behar @ 15.454638
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 15.666408
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 15.986248
14 Bedouin_HGDP @ 16.030239
15 Turks_Behar @ 16.241396
16 Armenian_Dodecad @ 16.360495
17 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 17.058035
18 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 17.379095
19 Yemenese_Behar @ 18.194313
20 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 18.318701

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Behar +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 2.703589


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iraq_Jews_Behar +25% Kurds_Yunusbayev +25% Moroccan_Dodecad @ 1.688629


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
1 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.034420
2 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.064295
3 Bedouin_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.149213
4 Iranians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.208554
5 Bedouin_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.220102
6 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.282130
7 Iraq_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.287783
8 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.295466
9 Assyrian_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.337915
10 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.351396
11 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.356247
12 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.380109
13 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.385911
14 Bedouin_HGDP + Kurd_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.391826
15 Assyrian_Dodecad + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Moroccan_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 1.403753
16 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.411527
17 Bedouin_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.425218
18 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Samaritians_Behar + Yemenese_Behar @ 1.435638
19 Bedouin_HGDP + Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.436170
20 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.436773

Dodecad K12b:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Southwest_Asian 21.80
3 Atlantic_Med 14.21
4 Gedrosia 12.86
5 Northwest_African 5.00
6 East_African 2.98
7 North_European 1.95
8 South_Asian 1.54


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Behar @ 5.542099
2 Syrians_Behar @ 7.861998
3 Jordanians_Behar @ 8.314487
4 Palestinian_HGDP @ 11.553473
5 Druze_HGDP @ 12.775885
6 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 13.220867
7 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 13.951524
8 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 15.624302
9 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 16.112579
10 Cypriots_Behar @ 16.163862
11 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 17.255264
12 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 17.261137
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 17.445190
14 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 17.525991
15 Turks_Behar @ 17.526476
16 Turkish_Dodecad @ 17.610006
17 Samaritians_Behar @ 18.233837
18 Egyptans_Behar @ 19.932726
19 Kurd_Dodecad @ 20.661077
20 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 20.723112

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Behar +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 5.542099


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jordanians_Behar +25% Kurd_Dodecad +25% Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.943974


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.630146
2 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.737514
3 Jordanians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.813558
4 Iranians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.871653
5 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.894177
6 Iranian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.912480
7 Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.917817
8 Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.943974
9 Jordanians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.990946
10 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 1.995862
11 Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.036665
12 Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.049291
13 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.095435
14 Iranian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.134742
15 Jordanians_Behar + Kurd_Dodecad + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.145469
16 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.152212
17 Kurd_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.179514
18 Druze_HGDP + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.196681
19 Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Palestinian_HGDP + Palestinian_HGDP @ 2.206628
20 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 2.235663

Dodecad World9:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 43.79
2 Caucasus_Gedrosia 36.16
3 Atlantic_Baltic 12.69
4 African 3.79
5 South_Asian 2.39
6 East_Asian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 250 populations found.
9 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lebanese_Behar @ 2.353862
2 Syrians_Behar @ 4.054829
3 Druze_HGDP @ 5.695301
4 Jordanians_Behar @ 8.027712
5 Cypriots_Behar @ 8.812212
6 Palestinian_HGDP @ 8.904497
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 9.805931
8 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 14.264633
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 14.315379
10 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 14.391229
11 Azerbaijan_Jews @ 14.889322
12 Samaritians_Behar @ 15.175529
13 Armenian_Dodecad @ 15.619842
14 Turkish_Dodecad @ 15.684603
15 Armenians_Yunusbayev @ 16.607557
16 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 16.675928
17 Turks_Behar @ 16.684025
18 Armenians_Behar @ 16.932611
19 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 18.657032
20 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 19.610973

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Behar +50% Lebanese_Behar @ 2.353862


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian_HGDP +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.747289


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++
1 Iranians_Behar + Jordanians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.006943
2 Iranian_Dodecad + Jordanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.008848
3 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.031823
4 Iranian_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.046788
5 Iranians_Behar + Lebanese_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.053107
6 Kurd_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.142349
7 Bedouin_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.145014
8 Kurd_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.193001
9 Bedouin_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Iranians_Behar @ 1.196377
10 Iranian_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Druze_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.219022
11 Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.241383
12 S_Italian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.267400
13 Iranian_Dodecad + Lebanese_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.278587
14 Lebanese_Behar + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.321038
15 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Yemen_Jews_Behar @ 1.350730
16 Kurd_Dodecad + Bedouin_HGDP + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 1.350744
17 Kurd_Dodecad + Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.356736
18 Iranians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Syrians_Behar @ 1.383747
19 Iranian_Dodecad + Palestinian_HGDP + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Samaritians_Behar @ 1.395123
20 Saudis_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Syrians_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 1.403971

So, I'm far more Jewish genetically than you, and that the reason why you have genetic relations with the Ashkenazim is simply because of shared Mediterranean genes rather than direct Jewish ancestry.
What Med ancestry would likely be shown as Jewish on here? Italian?

Kamal900
11-19-2017, 04:09 AM
What Med ancestry would likely be shown as Jewish on here? Italian?

Southern Italian and Cypriot.

Kamal900
11-19-2017, 04:14 AM
mccree and me get chased xD

https://ratherrad.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/haters-gonna-hate-mullet-tach.jpg

oszkar07
11-19-2017, 08:37 AM
Is there an accurate way to do this that doesn't cost a lot of money? Lol.

I think you hve to spend some $ to do your mtdna but if you do it you will also get matches, you can always see if you get a lot of Jewish matches.
The weird thing is I did my Mtdna through FTDNA , I get probably mostly British matches but also I get 67 mtdna Sephardic and 45 Ahskenazi matches through mtdna, no commercial site or calculator rates my DNA as Jewish, but I put my MTDNA results in a sephardic mtdna project group and the moderators looked at my mtdna results and classified them as "most likely sephardic". One person suggested I may have had a Spanish sephardic ancestor who emigrated to Britain during Spanish inquisition but then probably married British person and the line continued to water down and become more Brit. I would suggest u try Mtdna test at FTDNA , they are a Jewish owned company and probably could be helpful in identifying any Jews in the woodpiles.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 05:17 PM
Apparently DNA.LAND does give me some Ashkenazi, I just didn't see it because it was on the pie chart but not listed on the side for some reasom. Weird.
Commercial tests in general seem to give me various percentages of it. Ranging from 2% to 10% alongside various generic "Med" things. I think it might be getting underestimated but I don't know much about this stuff at all so I can't say.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 05:18 PM
What does a full blooded Ashkenazi Jewish persons GEDmatch results look like so I can compare and try to estimate a percentage? The reason I say that is I've heard full blooded Ashkenazi Jews do not get 100% Ashkenazi on tests.

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 05:58 PM
Any Jewish members wanna post some results so I can compare?

oszkar07
11-19-2017, 07:19 PM
Apparently DNA.LAND does give me some Ashkenazi, I just didn't see it because it was on the pie chart but not listed on the side for some reasom. Weird.
Commercial tests in general seem to give me various percentages of it. Ranging from 2% to 10% alongside various generic "Med" things. I think it might be getting underestimated but I don't know much about this stuff at all so I can't say.

what did you get on the eurogenes Jtest, how much Ashkenazi ?
what was your Oracle results ?

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 11:17 PM
what did you get on the eurogenes Jtest, how much Ashkenazi ?
what was your Oracle results ?

Mixed mode

1 75.7% IE + 24.3% AJ @ 3.9
2 75.1% Scottish + 24.9% AJ @ 4.3
3 76.7% Orcadian + 23.3% AJ @ 4.35
4 79.8% Cornish + 20.2% AJ @ 4.67
5 79.2% English + 20.8% AJ @ 5.65
6 80.7% NL + 19.3% AJ @ 6.16
7 87.7% Cornish + 12.3% GE @ 6.26
8 86.9% Cornish + 13.1% Armenian @ 6.32
9 85.2% Cornish + 14.8% TR @ 6.46
10 86.9% Cornish + 13.1% Kurdish @ 6.5
11 86.7% Cornish + 13.3% IR @ 6.55
12 88.1% Cornish + 11.9% Mandean @ 6.68
13 87.8% Cornish + 12.2% Assyrian @ 6.68
14 75.6% Scottish + 24.4% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.71
15 77.8% Orcadian + 22.2% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.79
16 82.4% West_&_Central_German + 17.6% AJ @ 6.82
17 86.7% Cornish + 13.3% Lezgin @ 6.87
18 68.5% Scottish + 31.5% Tuscan @ 6.88
19 82% Cornish + 18% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.9
20 89% Cornish + 11% Balochi @ 6.91

Adoptee
11-19-2017, 11:40 PM
Idk how helpful that is

Adoptee
11-20-2017, 01:39 AM
Most calcs give me between 20% and like 40%. Jtest says 24%, the one that gives me the most is Ancient Eurasia K6 that says I'm almost 65% "Iranian_Jewish"

Adoptee
11-20-2017, 05:33 AM
shameless bump

Hamlet
11-20-2017, 05:41 AM
From your dnaland, you almost certainly aren't Jewish

Hamlet
11-20-2017, 05:41 AM
If you want to know for sure, take 23andme

oszkar07
11-20-2017, 05:55 AM
Mixed mode

1 75.7% IE + 24.3% AJ @ 3.9
2 75.1% Scottish + 24.9% AJ @ 4.3
3 76.7% Orcadian + 23.3% AJ @ 4.35
4 79.8% Cornish + 20.2% AJ @ 4.67
5 79.2% English + 20.8% AJ @ 5.65
6 80.7% NL + 19.3% AJ @ 6.16
7 87.7% Cornish + 12.3% GE @ 6.26
8 86.9% Cornish + 13.1% Armenian @ 6.32
9 85.2% Cornish + 14.8% TR @ 6.46
10 86.9% Cornish + 13.1% Kurdish @ 6.5
11 86.7% Cornish + 13.3% IR @ 6.55
12 88.1% Cornish + 11.9% Mandean @ 6.68
13 87.8% Cornish + 12.2% Assyrian @ 6.68
14 75.6% Scottish + 24.4% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.71
15 77.8% Orcadian + 22.2% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.79
16 82.4% West_&_Central_German + 17.6% AJ @ 6.82
17 86.7% Cornish + 13.3% Lezgin @ 6.87
18 68.5% Scottish + 31.5% Tuscan @ 6.88
19 82% Cornish + 18% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 6.9
20 89% Cornish + 11% Balochi @ 6.91

How much Ashkenazi component did u get eg I get this ...

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 17.40
EAST_EURO 14.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.04
ATLANTIC 23.10
WEST_MED 10.20
ASHKENAZI 4.88
EAST_MED 3.96
WEST_ASIAN 5.36
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.08

Adoptee
11-20-2017, 06:13 AM
How much Ashkenazi component did u get eg I get this ...

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 17.40
EAST_EURO 14.93
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.04
ATLANTIC 23.10
WEST_MED 10.20
ASHKENAZI 4.88
EAST_MED 3.96
WEST_ASIAN 5.36
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.08

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.34
EAST_EURO 7.88
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.31
ATLANTIC 25.01
WEST_MED 10.88
ASHKENAZI 9.68
EAST_MED 4.15
WEST_ASIAN 7.57
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.18
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Are you part Jewish?

Adoptee
11-20-2017, 06:16 AM
If you want to know for sure, take 23andme

yeah but that's money I don't have to spend on tests like that rn lol

I don't know, if I'm not Jewish I think there's something there. Some kind of Med.

oszkar07
11-20-2017, 06:27 AM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 10.34
EAST_EURO 7.88
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.31
ATLANTIC 25.01
WEST_MED 10.88
ASHKENAZI 9.68
EAST_MED 4.15
WEST_ASIAN 7.57
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.18
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Are you part Jewish?

I dont think so, unless there is a very distant sephardic ancestor from my Mtdna, as I said I get quite bit Mtdna Sephardic matches (67)but no calculator gives me any Jewish %.

You have a reasonable Ashkenazi component , I wouldnt be suprised if u have some level of Jewish ancestry, either that or something like southern Italian.

Adoptee
11-20-2017, 01:14 PM
I dont think so, unless there is a very distant sephardic ancestor from my Mtdna, as I said I get quite bit Mtdna Sephardic matches (67)but no calculator gives me any Jewish %.

You have a reasonable Ashkenazi component , I wouldnt be suprised if u have some level of Jewish ancestry, either that or something like southern Italian.

Yeah its a shame there arent more clear answers in these sort of DNA tests. I thought there would be

Anglojew
11-30-2017, 10:39 PM
Seems to be a bit more than that, he's getting 16-19% Ashkenazi. He's probably that with the remainder being British.

I missed this. Yes, you're right.