Classify WHITE Mexican politician Enrique de la Madrid

[Cristiano viejo]

Son of the former Mexican president Miguel de la Madrid.

Sorry again RMuller ;)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Enrique_de_la_Madrid_Cordero_%282017%29.jpg
https://assets.weforum.org/sf_account/image/small__jO-SlS2TO-a-r-k9huSO0XU3S-hR8F3vOAvRxtzx7I.jpeg
https://www.quintanaroohoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Enrique-de-la-Madrid-Cordero-secretario-de-turismo-federal-1.jpg
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/files/article_main/uploads/2017/08/01/5981587758036.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Opinions, guys?

[Odin]

Noric + Alpine.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Faelid + Baskid

[Tooting Carmen]

Brunn with something else.

[RMuller]

Brunn with something else.

What part of Europe does he look most typical?

[Tooting Carmen]

What part of Europe does he look most typical?

Northwest.

[RMuller]

Northwest.

He looks nothing like his dad

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/mexico/images/president-madrid.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Lighter than Bobby Martnen :D

[Bobby Martnen]

Lighter than Bobby Martnen :D

Wrong.

[Catarinense1998]

Paleo-Atlantid + Baskid.Fits in Iberia.

[Cristiano viejo]

Wrong.

Wrong? you look like a mariachi compared with him :D

https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/three-smiling-members-of-a-mariachi-band-picture-id155384597?k=6&m=155384597&s=612x612&w=0&h=ZIM8ePb0sjLYjcdbbRQlK9aVnTLkYFS3HTzrvGWQr4Q=

[Bobby Martnen]

Wrong? you look like a mariachi compared with him :D


No, I don't.

[Cristiano viejo]

No, I don't.

Yes, you do. This guy would pass as a true Anglo being Mexican, unlike you

https://lideresmexicanos.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/EMH00.jpg

LIVE WITH IT

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes, you do. This guy would pass as a true Anglo being Mexican, unlike you

https://lideresmexicanos.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/EMH00.jpg

LIVE WITH IT

I'll make a poll

[The Blade]

Faelid + Baskid
I agree.

[Cristiano viejo]

I'll make a poll
Another ridicolous poll that you will lose as usual.
I am starting to believe that you are really handicaped...

[Bobby Martnen]

Another ridicolous poll that you will lose as usual.
I am starting to believe that you are really handicaped...

Ur mom triple gay

[Cristiano viejo]

Ur mom triple gay

Where is the poll, Bobby Mariachi?

[Bobby Martnen]

Where is the poll, Bobby Mariachi?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?237602-Who-is-whiter-Latino-Mexican-bullfighter-El-Payo-or-Anglo-American-Bobby-Martnen

[Cristiano viejo]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?237602-Who-is-whiter-Latino-Mexican-bullfighter-El-Payo-or-Anglo-American-Bobby-Martnen

You used another Mexican but well, you also will lose with that bullfighter.

[Bobby Martnen]

You used another Mexican but well, you also will lose with that bullfighter.

Ur mom still triple gay

[Cristiano viejo]

Ur mom still triple gay

You have no chances to defeat him, Mariachi.

[Zroota]

Faelid + North Atlantid

[Bobby Martnen]

You have no chances to defeat him, Mariachi.

:picard2:

[Cristiano viejo]

:picard2:

Are you that blind? he is blonde, with blue eyes, pale skin and total European features.
In the other hand...

[Bobby Martnen]

Are you that blind? he is blonde, with blue eyes, pale skin and total European features.
In the other hand...

His hair is the same color is mine. Brown eyes are common in Europeans as well, and you yourself have them. I've seen the photos.

[Cristiano viejo]

His hair is the same color is mine. Brown eyes are common in Europeans as well, and you yourself have them. I've seen the photos.

I am not European but North African. You are not blonde and you also are MENA like me.

[Bobby Martnen]

I am not European but North African. You are not blonde and you also are MENA like me.

I'm not North African, but you are, vajayjay.

[Cristiano viejo]

I'm not North African, but you are, vajayjay.

Of course you are. And your loved genetic supports this.

[MysteriousWays]

Baskid with minor Faelid. I agree with Sebastianus Rex on this one basically.

[Decius]

Lighter than Bobby Martnen :D

Who gives a fuck. the guy you posted in the OP is probably like 10% Indian genetically

[Bobby Martnen]

Who gives a fuck. the guy you posted in the OP is probably like 10% Indian genetically

Cristiano is obsessed with claiming that Spaniards and Mexicans are the Whitest people in Europe and claiming that I'm a Moor or a Mexican. I'm pretty sure he's not right in the head.

[Cristiano viejo]

Who gives a fuck. the guy you posted in the OP is probably like 10% Indian genetically

Again the source is your ass.

Seriously, to post stupidities and "probably", better keep in silence.

[Cristiano viejo]

Cristiano is obsessed with claiming that Spaniards and Mexicans are the Whitest people in Europe and claiming that I'm a Moor or a Mexican. I'm pretty sure he's not right in the head.

In fact it is you who claimed just TODAY that any Hispanic or Spanish speaker can be whiter than you :lpound:

[Decius]

Again the source is your ass.

Seriously, to post stupidities and "probably", better keep in silence.

moor leftover

[Cristiano viejo]

Cristiano is obsessed with claiming that Spaniards and Mexicans are the Whitest people in Europe and claiming that I'm a Moor or a Mexican. I'm pretty sure he's not right in the head.

In fact it is you who claimed just TODAY that any Hispanic or Spanish speaker can be whiter than you.

[Decius]

In fact it is you who claimed just TODAY that any Hispanic or Spanish speaker can be whiter than you.

you and your fellow moors will always be known as dirty mud people, illegal immigrants boy.

[Cristiano viejo]

moor leftover
Turkish leftover.


you and your fellow moors will always be known as dirty mud people, illegal immigrants boy.

It is your country who is Third World, full of Gypsies and dirty.

[Bobby Martnen]

In fact it is you who claimed just TODAY that any Hispanic or Spanish speaker can be whiter than you :lpound:

No Spanish speaker is whiter than the great Robert D. Martnen, PhD.

[Bobby Martnen]

Turkish leftover.

Your mom is a brothel's leftover.


It is your country who is Third World, full of Gypsies and dirty.

Gypsies are more European than you crazy taco fucks.

[Decius]

Turkish leftover.



It is your country who is Third World, full of Gypsies and dirty.

Son my ancestors lived in austro hungary during the ottoman times, your ancestors were buttraped by moors. You have more of them Gypsies then us

[Cristiano viejo]

Your mom is a brothel's leftover.

Gypsies are more European than you crazy taco fucks.
Your parents are brothers, Corky.


Son my ancestors lived in austro hungary during the ottoman times, your ancestors were buttraped by moors. You have more of them Gypsies then us
Real life: Moors never reached my region while Turks RULED 100% of Serbia and a great part of Hungary.

No, you have MUCH MORE in common with Gypsies: both of you are undeveloped. Both of you are dirty. Both of you are prone to crime.

[Bobby Martnen]

Son my ancestors lived in austro hungary during the ottoman times, your ancestors were buttraped by moors. You have more of them Gypsies then us

CRISTIANO'S GREAT-GRANDFATHER!

https://ak2.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/29751052/thumb/12.jpg?i10c=img.resize(height:160)

[Bobby Martnen]

Your parents are brothers, Corky.


Yet you criticize me for insulting your mother :picard2:

[Decius]

...

moor leftover

[Cristiano viejo]

moor leftover

Turkish leftover.

[Bobby Martnen]

moor leftover

MIDDLE EASTERN LEFTOVERS = SPANIARDS

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DNHD24/leftover-doner-kebab-takeaway-DNHD24.jpg

[Decius]

Turkish leftover.

Go eat some kebab and Falafel moor boy Turks never reached my ancestors :)

[Bobby Martnen]

Go eat some kebab and Falafel moor boy Turks never reached my ancestors :)

Tacos remind me of the kebab sandwiches in Germany. Coincidence? I think not!

[Cristiano viejo]

Go eat some kebab and phalaphal moor boy Turks never reached my ancestors :)

hahahahahahaha a Serbian talking about kebabs hahahahahahahahaha :pound:

Boy, you were their vassals... remember? :laugh:

[Decius]

hahahahahahaha a Serbian talking about kebabs hahahahahahahahaha :pound:

Boy, you were their vassals... remember? :laugh:

you were buttraped by the moors. My ancestors were always free we remove the kebab

[Cristiano viejo]

you were buttraped by the moors. My ancestors were always free we remove the kebab

Real life was the opposite. Moors never reached North Spain. Turks reached and ruled 100% of Serbia and Serbians :thumb001:

[Bobby Martnen]

hahahahahahaha a Serbian talking about kebabs hahahahahahahahaha :pound:

Boy, you were their vassals... remember? :laugh:

Your food is similar to kebab, Serbian food is not.

Swarthy dwarf envy boy.

[Decius]

Real life was the opposite. Moors never reached North Spain. Turks reached and ruled 100% of Serbia and Serbians :thumb001:

My ancesors werent from serbia proper so they were never ruled by the kebab :)

[Cristiano viejo]

Your food is similar to kebab, Serbian food is not.

Swarthy dwarf envy boy.
My food has nothing to do with kebab, retarded. Spanish food is based in pork. Kebab is done of everything less pork :thumb001:
And it is very spread in Balkans, not in Spain :thumb001:
Same than raki :thumb001:


My ancesors werent from serbia proper so they were never ruled by the kebab :)
So you are not Serbian. ok.

[Decius]

My food has nothing to do with kebab, retarded. Spanish food is based in pork. Kebab is done of everything less pork :thumb001:
And it is very spread in Balkans, not in Spain :thumb001:
Same than raki :thumb001:


So you are not Serbian. ok.

Im serb. There are many serbs who are not from Serbia proper

[Cristiano viejo]

Im serb. There are many serbs who are not from Serbia proper

Cool story.

[Bobby Martnen]

My food has nothing to do with kebab, retarded. Spanish food is based in pork. Kebab is done of everything less pork :thumb001:
And it is very spread in Balkans, not in Spain :thumb001:
Same than raki :thumb001:

Spanish food is just kebab with pork in it.


So you are not Serbian. ok.

He's not Serbian, but he is a Serb. Serbian is a political nationality, Serb is an ethnicity.
It's like the difference between being Hungarian and being a Magyar.

[Decius]

Cool story.

my ancestors before they came to austro hungary were Herzegovian serbs and maybe some Monteniggas

[Cristiano viejo]

my ancestors before they came to austro hungary were Herzegovian serbs and maybe some Monteniggas

Areas that also were 100% ruled by Turkish.
Good point you did :rolleyes:

[Decius]

Areas that also were 100% ruled by Turkish.
Good point you did :rolleyes:

we lived in austro hungary during ottoman occupation not in those areas

[Cristiano viejo]

we lived in austro hungary during ottoman occupation not in those areas

Yes, I understood the first time you said it.

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes, I understood the first time you said it.

:picard2:

[alnortedelsur]

Go eat some kebab and Falafel moor boy Turks never reached my ancestors :)

Shut up and bring me a Kebab, Mohamed!

[Bobby Martnen]

Shut up and bring me a Kebab, Mohamed!

You're genetically closer to Arabs than him, given that your Amerindian and Negroid admixture pulls you southeast.

[Cristiano viejo]

You're genetically closer to Arabs than him, given that your Amerindian and Negroid admixture pulls you southeast.

You too.

[Bobby Martnen]

You too.

I have no Amerindian or Negroid admxiture...

[alnortedelsur]

You're genetically closer to Arabs than him, given that your Amerindian and Negroid admixture pulls you southeast.

I plot farther from Arabs than Sicilians, Johnny.

At most, I plot with Northern or Central Italians in most gedmatch calculators.

And I am lighter than you.

[Cristiano viejo]

I have no Amerindian or Negroid admxiture...
You have MENA admixture, so you are close to Arabians, sandnigga.

[Bobby Martnen]

I plot farther from Arabs than Sicilians, Johnny.

At most, I plot with Northern or Central Italians in most gedmatch calculators.

And I am lighter than you.

You don't know what I look like.

[Cristiano viejo]

You don't know what I look like.

I do, and he is (another more) lighter than you. He gets blue eyes and blond hair and for sure seems more Anglo than you.

[Bobby Martnen]

You have MENA admixture, so you are close to Arabians, sandnigga.

It's barely any.

[Cristiano viejo]

It's barely any.

3% is a lot. Imagine what percentage must have your ancestor...

[Bobby Martnen]

3% is a lot. Imagine what percentage must have your ancestor...

Small levels for generations.

[Cristiano viejo]

Small levels for generations.
No. Your dad or mom must have 6%, and so on.

[Bobby Martnen]

No. Your dad or mom must have 6%, and so on.

My mom has 4%.

[Cristiano viejo]

My mom has 4%.
So imagine her dad or mom, etc etc etc

Smeagol, who knows thousand times more than you about genetic, told it today to you: 3% is not noise. You are really non-white genetically.

[Bobby Martnen]

So imagine her dad or mom, etc etc etc

Smeagol, who knows thousand times more than you about genetic, told it today to you: 3% is not noise. You are really non-white genetically.

Smeagol said he considers me White.

[Cristiano viejo]

Smeagol said he considers me White.

He also considers white to Lebanese and that stuff.

[Bobby Martnen]

He also considers white to Lebanese and that stuff.

Smeagol is a good guy.

[Cristiano viejo]

Smeagol is a good guy.

That has nothing to do.

[Bobby Martnen]

That has nothing to do.

Just like your mom.

[Cristiano viejo]

LIGHTER THAN BOBBY MARTNEN :p

[Zuh]

Ahh I know who you talking about he looks Anglo he can probably pass in Germany not sure about Spain?

[Cristiano viejo]

Ahh I know who you talking about he looks Anglo he can probably pass in Germany not sure about Spain?

How not, if he is almost 100% Spanish by blood??

[Zuh]

How not, if he is almost 100% Spanish by blood??

He might be, but can easily pass as white american lmao he's daughter looks like typical annoying teen american girl.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMn0iZYUQAArh07.jpg

[Valedictorian]

he has some German and Italian ancestry apparently. the german makes sense.
https://i.postimg.cc/vT0k5LYR/Oldenbourg.png
https://i.postimg.cc/FzCCYrpN/labardini.png

[Cristiano viejo]

He might be, but can easily pass as white american lmao he's daughter looks like typical annoying teen american girl.



It is not important for me if he, or his whole family, pass as white Americans. Americans have stolen your soul, Mexicano.

[Cristiano viejo]

he has some German and Italian ancestry apparently. the german makes sense.

It is quite stupid claiming that he looks German because he has such small ancestry.

[Valedictorian]

It is quite stupid claiming that he looks German because he has such small ancestry.
https://i.postimg.cc/4x2cjKdJ/lol.gif
LMAO only that he does. he's much more of a typical face anywhere in NW Europe than in Spain (or any other southern European country for that matter). he passes in spain easily aswell, obviously, but he isn't exactly what comes to mind when you think of a typical Spaniard, is he? so no he isn't "100 Spanish by blood", and it's possible that if we were to dig further in his genealogy we could find even more foreign surnames.

[Ruggery]

LoL, it looks like the typical Southern American white(redneck).

[Zuh]

LoL, it looks like the typical Southern American white(redneck).

Many white mexicans are not only Spanish sure they are mostly spanish but within their Euro blood they usually have a small hint of other things such as German Irish or French and Italian.

I have a friend he's from Jalisco too and went to Cataluña for vacation and Cataluña is supposedly the lightest version of Spain he said people thought he was a Northern Euro or white american.

Jalisco has a lot white mexicans in case you didn't knew.

[Ruggery]

Many white mexicans are not only Spanish sure they are mostly spanish but within their Euro blood they usually have a small hint of other things such as German Irish or French and Italian.

I have a friend he's from Jalisco too and went to Cataluña for vacation and Cataluña is supposedly the lightest version of Spain he said people thought he was a Northern Euro or white american.

Jalisco has a lot white mexicans in case you didn't knew.

Well, in part you may be right, for example, this Mexican singer is supposedly of Spanish ancestry, but I think he has another blood of the euro (maybe he sees German, Polish, Dutch or northen French) because a complete Spanish like he is very weird.
https://www.marthadebayle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Alexander.jpg

[Zuh]

Well, in part you may be right, for example, this Mexican singer is supposedly of Spanish ancestry, but I think he has another blood of the euro (maybe he sees German, Polish, Dutch or northen French) because a complete Spanish like he is very weird.
https://www.marthadebayle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Alexander.jpg

I have said this many times we all know white people in Mexico are minority but most of them are very fair skinned blond with blue eyes that's why the term wero come out to label those people with the term.

[Ruggery]

I have said this many times we all know white people in Mexico are minority but most of them are very fair skinned blond with blue eyes that's why the term wero come out to label those people with the term.

Not the term of them in Mexico is Guero.
Los Mexicanos a los gringos y europeos del norte les dicen Gueros.

[Zuh]

Not the term of them in Mexico is Guero.
Los Mexicanos a los gringos y europeos del norte les dicen Gueros.

Wero or Guero same thing.

30% of population of Jalisco are indistinguishable from Europeans or white american .

Guillermo del Toro from Jalisco too.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQpbLgXXOEF9FBzneE0taQXmJALKmH BSqpgl-nnVpL4la49_Qf1

[Ruggery]

Ahh I know who you talking about he looks Anglo he can probably pass in Germany not sure about Spain?


It is quite stupid claiming that he looks German because he has such small ancestry.

In my opinion observing it well I think it seems more Irish than German or Spanish.
He would pass unnoticed in this Irish group, nobody would notice that he would be a foreigner.
https://schoolmenot.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/descarga.jpg
http://lideresmexicanos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/De-la-Madrid-Cordero-Enrique-1.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

LMAO only that he does. he's much more of a typical face anywhere in NW Europe than in Spain (or any other southern European country for that matter). he passes in spain easily aswell, obviously, but he isn't exactly what comes to mind when you think of a typical Spaniard, is he? so no he isn't "100 Spanish by blood", and it's possible that if we were to dig further in his genealogy we could find even more foreign surnames.
I did not say he is 100% Spanish by blood, I said almost, and that is what he is.

More foreign surnames? check his family tree and you will see 99% of his surnames are Spanish, except that Oldenbourg, (and one Italian via his mother), which comes from a German immigrant called Jorge Oldenbourg. They even reach the original Spanish ancestor, a such Domingo de la Madrid, from Pesaguero (Cantabria).

So dont make me laugh with that his appearance comes from his remote German ancestry... more even when his German ancestry comes from his father, and not from his mother, who was the "blonde" of the familly :rolleyes:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Paloma_Cordero_in_1985.jpg




Many white mexicans are not only Spanish sure they are mostly spanish but within their Euro blood they usually have a small hint of other things such as German Irish or French and Italian.

I have a friend he's from Jalisco too and went to Cataluña for vacation and Cataluña is supposedly the lightest version of Spain he said people thought he was a Northern Euro or white american.


Cataluña is far of being the lightest Spanish region, man :picard1:

The great majority of white Mexicans are from Spanish origin and only of Spanish origin.


Well, in part you may be right, for example, this Mexican singer is supposedly of Spanish ancestry, but I think he has another blood of the euro (maybe he sees German, Polish, Dutch or northen French) because a complete Spanish like he is very weird.

As weird as being North French, Polish or German.

And yes, like you or not, that Mexican singer is predominatly Spanih by blood. Surnames and genealogy dont lie, sorry.

[Gauthier]

A Mexican Whiter than Donald Trump Jr. WTF? :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/UhrN8qu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/b1PnIKR.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

A Mexican Whiter than Donald Trump Jr. WTF? :lol:

lol, is that man the son of Donald Trump??

[Gauthier]

lol, is that man the son of Donald Trump??

Yes, sir. :coffee:

[alnortedelsur]

lol, is that man the son of Donald Trump??

I mentioned it before in another thread. I had an Andalusian female boss in a job back in Spain, who was very pale, blond, blue eyed, and robust, and she looked like if she could be the sister of Donald Trump, lol

[Latinus]

Looks WASP.
Yes, Spanish is the main ancestry of white Mexicans, but they are rarely pure, because most of their blood is colonial.

[Cristiano viejo]

Looks WASP.
Yes, Spanish is the main ancestry of white Mexicans, but they are rarely pure, because most of their blood is colonial.

Looks what he is, and he is not a WASP. That he could pass as one is another story.

[Latinus]

Looks what he is, and he is not a WASP. That he could pass as one is another story.

I said he looked WASP, not that he is WASP. You also look French, but it doesn't make you one.

[Cristiano viejo]

I said he looked WASP, not that he is WASP. You also look French, but it doesn't make you one.

I dont look French, nobody in my life called me French. Curiously in the beach some Germans thought I was German, it was hilarious because I dont look German neither, less even than French of course.

[Latinus]

I dont look French, nobody in my life called me French. Curiously in the beach some Germans thought I was German, it was hilarious because I dont look German neither, less even than French of course.

Nobody in my life ever called me Iberian/Italian, but I pass as one, same as you.

[HelloGuys]

Nobody in my life ever called me Iberian/Italian, but I pass as one, same as you.

Me too

[Cristiano viejo]

Nobody in my life ever called me Iberian/Italian, but I pass as one, same as you.
:no000000:


Me too

:no000000:

[Megamind]

German lookin mestizo

[Cristiano viejo]

German lookin mestizo

Prove he is mestizo.

[Megamind]

Prove he is mestizo.
Prove he is not.

[Cristiano viejo]

Prove he is not.

I already did, review the thread.

[swiftie13]

lighter than whole population of Spain

[Cristiano viejo]

lighter than whole population of Spain

He is our descendant, so no problem :)

[swiftie13]

He is our descendant, so no problem :)

Hahahaha please .. you have made my day honey ... Hahah please tell me you are joking

[Cristiano viejo]

Hahahaha please .. you have made my day honey ... Hahah please tell me you are joking

Where do you see the joke?

[alnortedelsur]

lighter than whole population of Spain

And however, he's mostly ethnic Spanish.

[swiftie13]

And however, he's mostly ethnic Spanish.

what's wrong with you people being from Spanish speaking country doesn't not mean he's ethnic Spanish .
he certainly has Germanic anscery looks typical German

[alnortedelsur]

what's wrong with you people being from Spanish speaking country doesn't not mean he's ethnic Spanish .
he certainly has Germanic anscery looks typical German

No, his ancestry is overwhelmingly Spanish. White Mexicans main European ancestry is Spanish by a big margin, like it or not.

[Megamind]

I already did, review the thread.
No. His parents and grandparents are Mexicans so he has indigenous amerindian ancestry with German and Italian.

[Cristiano viejo]

No. His parents and grandparents are Mexicans so he has indigenous amerindian ancestry with German and Italian.

He also is Mexican so he has to have indigenous Amerindian ancestry per se, according you :rolleyes:

Sorry, that is stupid, it is like saying all Americans of USA with colonial ancestry have yes or yes Amerindian ancestry :rolleyes:

[Latinus]

He also is Mexican so he has to have indigenous Amerindian ancestry per se, according you :rolleyes:

Sorry, that is stupid, it is like saying all Americans of USA with colonial ancestry have yes or yes Amerindian ancestry :rolleyes:

Not all Mexicans have Amerindian, of course, but the majority has, which is not the case in the US.
If the Mexican (whether he is white or not) has fully or partial colonial ancestry, (s)he will surely score some Amerindian.
Enrique is a white guy, period.

[Latinus]

:no000000:



:no000000:

You're being delusional and anthrotard. France is more diverse than Spain and has many types like you + many darker/lighter types, so I don't see why you couldn't pass.
Do you deslike the French?

[Awebo]

Not all Mexicans have Amerindian, of course, but the majority has, which is not the case in the US.
If the Mexican (whether he is white or not) has fully or partial colonial ancestry, (s)he will surely score some Amerindian.
Enrique is a white guy, period.
Exactly, Mexico and the US have a different history. He just doesn't want to accept that someone with Amerindian ancestry can look like that.

[Latinus]

Exactly, Mexico and the US have a different history. He just doesn't want to accept that someone with Amerindian ancestry can look like that.

The guy of my avatar looks uber Spaniard, but he has a mestiza grandma.
You don't need to be fully Euro to look like one.

[Cristiano viejo]

The guy of my avatar looks uber Spaniard, but he has a mestiza grandma.
You don't need to be fully Euro to look like one.

And this Enrique de la Madrid, with zero Scandinavian blood, could pass as one, so what? :rolleyes:

[Latinus]

And this Enrique de la Madrid, with zero Scandinavian blood, could pass as one, so what? :rolleyes:

I'm just saying that phenotype doesn't mean much in Latin America when it comes to purity.

[Cristiano viejo]

I'm just saying that phenotype doesn't mean much in Latin America when it comes to purity.

But the ancestors of this guy can and are traced even until his fuckin original Spanish settler, that is the difference.

[Zuh]

Cristiano viejo classify Guillermo del Toro from Jalisco Mexico.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQpbLgXXOEF9FBzneE0taQXmJALKmH BSqpgl-nnVpL4la49_Qf1

[Latinus]

But the ancestors of this guy can and are traced even until his fuckin original Spanish settler, that is the difference.

He is a minority.

[Cristiano viejo]

Cristiano viejo classify Guillermo del Toro from Jalisco Mexico.

No. I dislike this lefty.


He is a minority.
I could not care less.

[Latinus]

No. I dislike this lefty.


I could not care less.

I think the same. Your stupid/arrogantt answers are typical of a teen kid, grown up!

[Zuh]

No. I dislike this lefty.


I could not care less.

Lefty? That's news to me I'm just wondering because he's most likely Colonial decent from 16th century criollos.

[Cristiano viejo]

I think the same. Your stupid/arrogantt answers are typical of a teen kid, grown up!

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d2ff14af963869eaf9461b738bf6bade/tenor.gif?itemid=9259069

[Cristiano viejo]

Lefty? That's news to me I'm just wondering because he's most likely Colonial decent from 16th century criollos.

That clown became famous in Spain with the lefty movie el laberinto del fauno. I hate him since then.

[Latinus]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d2ff14af963869eaf9461b738bf6bade/tenor.gif?itemid=9259069

Choose one gif in Spanish next time.

[Cristiano viejo]

Choose one gif in Spanish next time.

Good idea, next time you cry me, I will do. Thumbs up for you, :thumb001:

[Awebo]

But the ancestors of this guy can and are traced even until his fuckin original Spanish settler, that is the difference.
That's no different. You're delusional if you think he doesn't have Amerindian (or any non-Spanish) ancestry just because one of his Spanish ancestors can be traced back to the early 1700's.

His Spanish ancestor married a Mexican, their Mexican children married Mexicans, their Mexican children's children married Mexicans, their Mexican great grandchildren married Mexicans, and so on.

[Cristiano viejo]

That's no different. You're delusional if you think he doesn't have Amerindian (or any non-Spanish) ancestry just because one of his Spanish ancestors can be traced back to the early 1700's.

His Spanish ancestor married a Mexican, their Mexican children married Mexicans, their Mexican children's children married Mexicans, their Mexican great grandchildren married Mexicans, and so on.
His Spanish ancestor married a Mexican, a criolla ie 100% Spanish by blood. You are talking without knowing.
I insist, prove he is Amerindian.

[Awebo]

His Spanish ancestor married a Mexican, a criolla ie 100% Spanish by blood. You are talking without knowing.
I insist, prove he is Amerindian.

:picard1:

You cannot prove that the multiple generations of Mexicans that came before Enrique have remained pure throughout 300 years. There's no such thing as a 100% Euro colonial Mexican.

[Cristiano viejo]

:picard1:

You cannot prove that the multiple generations of Mexicans that came before Enrique have remained pure throughout 300 years. There's no such thing as a 100% Euro colonial Mexican.

You neither, but you insist he has to have yes or yes Amerindian blood :rolleyes:

His family tree can be traced, I doubt this could be possible if he had native blood.

[Zuh]

You neither, but you insist he has to have yes or yes Amerindian blood :rolleyes:

His family tree can be traced, I doubt this could be possible if he had native blood.

I also think Enrique has zero or almost zero amerindian blood he's family are very clasist which means racist in a political way he and he's family have tried keeping as much Euro through generations .

[Latinus]

You neither, but you insist he has to have yes or yes Amerindian blood :rolleyes:

His family tree can be traced, I doubt this could be possible if he had native blood.

Enrique is a white man. But it's rare for a colonial Mexican to be pure Spanish.
And what diference does it make if he has it or not? He is white even if he is 2% Amerindian.

[Awebo]

You neither, but you insist he has to have yes or yes Amerindian blood :rolleyes:
Find me proof of a Mexican who is colonial and 100% Euro. You can't. Therefore he has Amerindian blood.
.

His family tree can be traced, I doubt this could be possible if he had native blood.

Youre absolutely right. Lets have a look at Cantinflas' family tree https://gw.geneanet.org/turandot1?lang=en&n=moreno+reyes&oc=0&p=mario
https://www.trbimg.com/img-591a43d3/turbine/hoyla-rtv-el-legado-que-cantinflas-le-dejo-a-su-hijo-mario-moreno-ivanova-20170515

Surely he must be 100% Euro, right? You yourself said if their family tree can be traced, they are 100% Euro. :rolleyes:

Yeah he looks unmistakeably Euro... more specifically Spanish, I agree. :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

I also think Enrique has zero or almost zero amerindian blood he's family are very clasist which means racist in a political way he and he's family have tried keeping as much Euro through generations .
Agreed, even his wife is predominantly white

her grandparents, the Spanish Carlos Prieto and the French Cecile Jacqué
http://d549whtx1ehtg.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/5.jpg


Find me proof of a Mexican who is colonial and 100% Euro. You can't. Therefore he has Amerindian blood.
It is you who claims he has Amerindian blood. You are who has to prove such bullshit.
What happens is that you can not.



No, the Cantinflas family tree can not be traced at all, sorry, try harder.

[Awebo]

Agreed, even his wife is predominantly white

her grandparents, the Spanish Carlos Prieto and the French Cecile Jacqué
http://d549whtx1ehtg.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/5.jpg


It is you who claims he has Amerindian blood. You are who has to prove such bullshit.
What happens is that you can not.



No, the Cantinflas family tree can not be traced at all, sorry, try harder.
Cut the bullshit. I posted a link to Cantinflas' family tree and his maternal line can be traced to the early 1800's. :rolleyes:

One thing is that Enrique's wife has a line of Euro grandparents, but his dates back to the early 1700's, a great-great-great-great-great grandparent. There's no comparison whatsoever.

Why do you get so butthurt at the thought of "white" Mexicans having non-Euro ancestry? They're Me-xi-can, not Spanish. I would understand if he was Spanish and people started implying he was part Berber or Gypsy... but Amerindian ancestry, regardless of how small or sizeable, whether it's visible or not, is normal for Mexicans -especially colonial ones, which Enrique is, ffs.

[Ruggery]

As weird as being North French, Polish or German.

And yes, like you or not, that Mexican singer is predominatly Spanih by blood. Surnames and genealogy dont lie, sorry.

Yes, but it does not seem like a Spanish as I mentioned before, it seems Irish/British or North French before Spanish.

[Ruggery]

Although he having mostly Spanish blood his look very atypical in Spain, but these cases can occur in any part of Europe.

[Cristiano viejo]

Cut the bullshit. I posted a link to Cantinflas' family tree and his maternal line can be traced to the early 1800's. :rolleyes:

One thing is that Enrique's wife has a line of Euro grandparents, but his dates back to the early 1700's, a great-great-great-great-great grandparent. There's no comparison whatsoever.

Why do you get so butthurt at the thought of "white" Mexicans having non-Euro ancestry? They're Me-xi-can, not Spanish. I would understand if he was Spanish and people started implying he was part Berber or Gypsy... but Amerindian ancestry, regardless of how small or sizeable, whether it's visible or not, is normal for Mexicans -especially colonial ones, which Enrique is, ffs.
It is you who gets butthurt. All of you mestizos hate the fact that there are pure whites in your countries.


Yes, but it does not seem like a Spanish as I mentioned before, it seems Irish/British or North French before Spanish.
That is your opinion. It is like saying this Spanish does not look Spanish first than North French, British or whatever

https://i2.wp.com/sextoanillo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/14444613_10211636628017788_7936099474623160620_o.j pg?resize=1170%2C700

every person looks what he/she is. The rest are your fantasies.

[RMuller]

Wero or Guero same thing.

30% of population of Jalisco are indistinguishable from Europeans or white american .

Guillermo del Toro from Jalisco too.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQpbLgXXOEF9FBzneE0taQXmJALKmH BSqpgl-nnVpL4la49_Qf1

You are crazy if you think 30% of Jalisco's pop look like white americans.

[swiftie13]

enough with this non sense .... its now pretty annoying .. Spanish look med end of story ... white looking Spanish has Germanic anscery from Germanic tribes that settled in Iberia after Roman empire fall and they are the minority ...the true Spanish (celto-iberian ) dark skinned and med looking not me who said that ..I think Cristiano should educate himself because he's ignorant af the most annoying member .. I've met so far

[Cristiano viejo]

white looking Spanish has Germanic anscery from Germanic tribes that settled in Iberia after Roman empire fall and they are the minorityjajajajajaj

[Awebo]

It is you who gets butthurt. All of you mestizos hate the fact that there are pure whites in your countries.
Lol, nope, not really. There are pure whites in Mexico, but only if they have recent Euro ancestry. If they are colonial "white" Mexicans like Enrique, there's a 99.9% chance they have Amerindian ancestry. :thumb001:.

[Ruggery]

That is your opinion. It is like saying this Spanish does not look Spanish first than North French, British or whatever

https://i2.wp.com/sextoanillo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/14444613_10211636628017788_7936099474623160620_o.j pg?resize=1170%2C700

every person looks what he/she is. The rest are your fantasies.

Well, that guy does not look like the typical Spanish it's as if he said that Gerd Muller is typical in Germany, in a group of 20 or 30 Spanish only 4 or a maximum of 5 would be like him, (a minority).
Like I said, it looks like British or North french because in those groups guys with a similar appearance to it, are not small or minority.
http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/10/1062/PKUL000Z/posters/paul-bettany.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

enough with this non sense .... its now pretty annoying .. Spanish look med end of story ... white looking Spanish has Germanic anscery from Germanic tribes that settled in Iberia after Roman empire fall and they are the minority ...the true Spanish (celto-iberian ) dark skinned and med looking not me who said that ..I think Cristiano should educate himself because he's ignorant af the most annoying member .. I've met so far

I think you're the one who should educate yourself and stop relying so much in Hollywood.

Very cool story btw :thumb001:

[Cristiano viejo]

Well, that guy does not look like the typical Spanish
Neither North French or British, fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


in a group of 20 or 30 Spanish only 4 or a maximum of 5 would be like him, (a minority).


Not even 4 or 5, but that is not the point.

[Ruggery]

Neither North French or British, fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can think what you want, but in those places there are many types similar to the man in the photo, more than in all of Spain.


even 4 or 5, but that is not the point.
That would be the real percentage in most areas of Spain, in other regions such as Andalucia or Ibiza, it would be more but because of the amount of tourists there in there xD

[PrincesaMeridaYucata]

Se ve gringo, parece mas blanco que santiago creel

[Cristiano viejo]

You can think what you want, but in those places there are many types similar to the man in the photo, more than in all of Spain.

Having more types similar to him does not mean it is typical in these places. Sorry but only in Scandinavia he would be typical
https://i2.wp.com/sextoanillo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/14444613_10211636628017788_7936099474623160620_o.j pg?resize=1170%2C700

North France, lol...


That would be the real percentage in most areas of Spain, in other regions such as Andalucia or Ibiza, it would be more but because of the amount of tourists there in there xD
Trying be funny does not give your the reason, this is like British tourists look in Spain

https://viajerosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Turistas_britanico.jpg

https://www.estrelladigital.es/media/estrelladigital/images/2014/07/11/2014071114084850850.jpg

https://www.abc.es/media/espana/2016/06/24/1BB-kr3C--620x349@abc.jpg

https://www.diariodepontevedra.es/media/diariodepontevedra/images/2016/09/30/turismo.jpg

https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/uploads/s1/48/53/98/turistas-britanicos-espana.png

https://www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/6c5/34b/6c534ba6b72cce6a114441045d443658/dos-ingleses-sentados-en-una-terraza-a-v.jpg?mtime=1458335729

https://www.lainformacion.com/files/article_main/uploads/2017/09/16/59bc8cc57d672.jpeg

Only in your mind they look like that blonde Spaniard :rolleyes:

[Ruggery]

Having more types similar to him does not mean it is typical in these places. Sorry but only in Scandinavia he would be typical
https://i2.wp.com/sextoanillo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/14444613_10211636628017788_7936099474623160620_o.j pg?resize=1170%2C700

North France, lol...
And also in The Netherlands and North of Germany.
It is not typical in the North of France and the United Kingdom, I never said that, I only said that in those places it is possible to find morethat Spain

be funny does not give your the reason, this is like British tourists look in Spain

https://viajerosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Turistas_britanico.jpg

https://www.estrelladigital.es/media/estrelladigital/images/2014/07/11/2014071114084850850.jpg

https://www.abc.es/media/espana/2016/06/24/1BB-kr3C--620x349@abc.jpg

https://www.diariodepontevedra.es/media/diariodepontevedra/images/2016/09/30/turismo.jpg

https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/uploads/s1/48/53/98/turistas-britanicos-espana.png

https://www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/6c5/34b/6c534ba6b72cce6a114441045d443658/dos-ingleses-sentados-en-una-terraza-a-v.jpg?mtime=1458335729

https://www.lainformacion.com/files/article_main/uploads/2017/09/16/59bc8cc57d672.jpeg

Only in your mind they look like that blonde Spaniard :rolleyes:

You are right in the case of British tourists. I have not seen many blond British tourists either, most of them have brown or dark hair. But when I talk about tourists in Ibiza, Magaluf, Alicante, Mallorca, I do not only talk about British tourists, but you also forget that in those areas there are a lot of German, Dutch, Scandinavian, Belgian and American tourists.

[Cristiano viejo]

You are right in the case of British tourists. I have not seen many blond British tourists either, most of them have brown or dark hair. But when I talk about tourists in Ibiza, Magaluf, Alicante, Mallorca, I do not only talk about British tourists, but you also forget that in those areas there are a lot of German, Dutch, Scandinavian, Belgian and American tourists.
Well, yes, British are not the only one tourists, but they are the most numerous (along Germans). I am not very sure if the typical German is someone so blonde neither :rolleyes: (in fact it is not for my experience).

btw, https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277050-Classify-the-UK-Government :rolleyes:

[Papastratosels26]

Alpine

[Ruggery]

Well, yes, British are not the only one tourists, but they are the most numerous (along Germans). I am not very sure if the typical German is someone so blonde neither :rolleyes: (in fact it is not for my experience).

btw, https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277050-Classify-the-UK-Government :rolleyes:

Bueno según el censo del turismo Español los alemanes son el tercer grupo mas numeroso de turistas solo por detrás de los británicos y franceses.Los escandinavos son el cuarto grupo mas numeroso, el quinto son los italianos y el sexto los holandeses,en los grupos guiris alemanes si he visto muchos rubios aquí hay algunas imágenes de turistas alemanes ellos al igual que los británicos les gustan las zonas calurosas y playeras de tu país.
https://ep00.epimg.net/economia/imagenes/2016/06/30/actualidad/1467286556_636834_1467301527_noticia_normal.jpg
https://www.abc.es/media/economia/2016/04/11/turistas-alemanes--620x349.jpg
http://www.interviajeros.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/turistas-alemanes.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_FlU4rEhsfr4U3fhdyG4B0USW2O6ZD YffD8J2dfP00Pxr7mev

[Cristiano viejo]

Bueno según el censo del turismo Español los alemanes son el tercer grupo mas numeroso de turistas solo por detrás de los británicos y franceses.Los escandinavos son el cuarto grupo mas numeroso, el quinto son los italianos y el sexto los holandeses,en los grupos guiris alemanes si he visto muchos rubios aquí hay algunas imágenes de turistas alemanes ellos al igual que los británicos les gustan las zonas calurosas y playeras de tu país.


Sí, ellos son más rubios que los británicos quizás. Pero por mi experiencia personal la mayoría de ellos no lo son, o al menos no rubios en plan Oliver Kahn.
¿Los alemanes son los terceros en esa lista por detrás de franceses? será que no cuentan a los que viven aquí todo el año.

[Ruggery]

Sí, ellos son más rubios que los británicos quizás. Pero por mi experiencia personal la mayoría de ellos no lo son, o al menos no rubios en plan Oliver Kahn.
¿Los alemanes son los terceros en esa lista por detrás de franceses? será que no cuentan a los que viven aquí todo el año.
Creo que solo toman en cuenta los que visitan el país.

[Cristiano viejo]

Creo que solo toman en cuenta los que visitan el país.

Pues eso no lo sabía. Hubiera apostado dinero a que estaban delante de franceses.

[Ruggery]

Pues eso no lo sabía. Hubiera apostado dinero a que estaban delante de franceses.

Viviendo?

[Cristiano viejo]

Viviendo?

No no, simplemente de turistas.

[Ruggery]

No no, simplemente de turistas.

Esos solo seria cierto en las islas Baleares, pero en la España continental nop :p

[Cristiano viejo]

Esos solo seria cierto en las islas Baleares, pero en la España continental nop :p

La cantidad de alemanes que vienen en verano es tal, que te repito que hubiera apostado mi dinero a que superaban a los gabachos.

[Ruggery]

La cantidad de alemanes que vienen en verano es tal, que te repito que hubiera apostado mi dinero a que superaban a los gabachos.

En tu ciudad hay muchos?

[Cristiano viejo]

En tu ciudad hay muchos?

No. Mi ciudad no destaca por ser una que atraiga excesivo turismo.

[Mopi Licinius Crassus]

hay muchos britanicos y franceses en santa pola ahora

en los anos noventa, hay muy pocitos extranjeros

solomente gente locales, y del madrid , elche, y el pais vasco

santiago bernabeu tuvo su casa de verano en santa pola.
Él era de almansa, donde está enterrado mi abuelo. tengo mucha familia en almansa

[Ruggery]

No. Mi ciudad no destaca por ser una que atraiga excesivo turismo.

Pero personalmente los has visto?

[Ruggery]

hay muchos britanicos y franceses en santa pola ahora

en los anos noventa, hay muy pocitos extranjeros

solomente gente locales, y del madrid , elche, y el pais vasco

santiago bernabeu tuvo su casa de verano en santa pola.
Él era de almansa, donde está enterrado mi abuelo. tengo mucha familia en almansa

Supongo que el castellano no es tu primera lengua.

[Cristiano viejo]

Pero personalmente los has visto?

Coño, pues claro :lol: a miles.