View Full Version : Classify and Place Roman Empress Valeria Mesalina
alnortedelsur
11-23-2017, 03:20 AM
She was the second cousin of the Roman emperor Caligula and the third wife of the Roman Emperor Claudio. She was infamous for her promiscuity.
Please classify her, and where do you think she could pass (if she lived today), including Europe, Asia, North and South America?:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0b/ec/d9/0becd9079afd016b62c0623ea70c4d37.jpg
http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/messalina-infamous-romans.jpg
http://www.diariodecine.es/ssmessalinaemperatriz.jpg
Thanks in advance.
Kouros
11-23-2017, 04:10 AM
She looks to brachy for a noblewoman hehe
alnortedelsur
11-23-2017, 04:13 AM
She looks to brachy for a noblewoman hehe
I like brachy women, hehehe
Do you think she could have passed as Greek?
Smeagol
11-23-2017, 04:18 AM
Alpine. Pan-European.
JMack
11-23-2017, 04:18 AM
Alpine-Med.
Passes everywhere this phenotype exists. Basically Southern Europe and places with Southern European populations.
dperucca
11-23-2017, 04:18 AM
Their family drama was something that would be hard (disgusting) to recreate in a modern day drama today.
That said Romans tended to be less into the idealized representations and more interested in realistic representations based on Italic traditions.
Alpine
Kouros
11-23-2017, 04:20 AM
Could be med
https://i.imgur.com/AkjOTy9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7qc8rQL.png
alnortedelsur
11-23-2017, 04:20 AM
Alpine. Pan-European.
Thanks. Do you think she could pass as white North American (if she lived today)?
alnortedelsur
11-23-2017, 04:21 AM
Alpine-Med.
Passes everywhere this phenotype exists. Basically Southern Europe and places with Southern European populations.
Thanks. Do you think she could have passed as Russian (if she lived today)?
JMack
11-23-2017, 04:21 AM
Could be med
https://i.imgur.com/AkjOTy9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7qc8rQL.png
Probably Alpine-Med. Like the woman in the second photo.
Smeagol
11-23-2017, 04:22 AM
Thanks. Do you think she could pass as white North American (if she lived today)?
Definitely.
Kouros
11-23-2017, 04:24 AM
I like brachy women, hehehe
Do you think she could have passed as Greek?
I think she can pass anywhere in Europe to be honest. Every time I see a Roman Empress I just automatically think of Sardinian women though, idk why.
In my previous reply she seems just a bit more long headed but I think it's the fat neck that's playing tricks on me lol
Decius
11-23-2017, 04:33 AM
Alpine med
alnortedelsur
11-23-2017, 04:35 AM
Alpine med
Thanks. Do you think she could have passed as Canadian (if she lived today)?
And do you think she could have passed as Serbian?
Decius
11-23-2017, 04:38 AM
Thanks. Do you think she could have passed as Canadian (if she lived today)?
And do you think she could have passed as Serbian?
I think she could pass as Canadian white and Serbian she almost looks pan euro
Alpine-Med. Pass in Southern Europe.
Giovanni2018
11-23-2017, 10:46 PM
Alpine-Med
alnortedelsur
11-24-2017, 02:14 AM
Alpine-Med
Thanks for your opinion.
I was about to ask you if she could pass as Italian, almost forgetting that she was from Italy, lol.
alnortedelsur
11-25-2017, 03:53 AM
bump
wvwvw
11-25-2017, 04:01 AM
I like brachy women, hehehe
Do you think she could have passed as Greek?
She looks like a Muslim woman lol
http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/messalina-infamous-romans.jpg
too covered to be greek :D
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/73/05/f8/7305f86317f81669a208c5cd442f4d33--d-orsay-louvre-paris.jpg
Iloko
11-25-2017, 04:01 AM
Looks like Dinaro-Med.... perhaps with a bit of North Pontid
alnortedelsur
11-25-2017, 04:06 AM
She looks like a Muslim woman lol
http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/messalina-infamous-romans.jpg
too covered to be greek :D
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/73/05/f8/7305f86317f81669a208c5cd442f4d33--d-orsay-louvre-paris.jpg
But ironically, she opened her legs to everybody, lol
alnortedelsur
11-25-2017, 04:22 AM
Another close pic of a statue of her. I can better picture how she looked like IRL:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oPDBUj5lHoQ/VMFEVAP1LFI/AAAAAAAAGRU/nptfNe1COOI/s1600/mesalina2.jpg
Kouros
11-25-2017, 05:12 AM
Another close pic of a statue of her. I can better picture how she looked like IRL:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oPDBUj5lHoQ/VMFEVAP1LFI/AAAAAAAAGRU/nptfNe1COOI/s1600/mesalina2.jpg
I don't know why but in this pic I just automatically thought 'Iberian' :lol:
Zroota
11-25-2017, 06:14 AM
Her pigmentation, eye and hair color really matter though.
alnortedelsur
11-25-2017, 11:50 AM
I don't know why but in this pic I just automatically thought 'Iberian' :lol:
I think she could pass as Spanish, but I notice some Italian vibe in there. Like current Italians.
MinervaItalica
11-25-2017, 11:53 AM
She looks like a Muslim woman lol
http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/messalina-infamous-romans.jpg
too covered to be greek :D
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/73/05/f8/7305f86317f81669a208c5cd442f4d33--d-orsay-louvre-paris.jpg
Hahaha funny.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Terrkottastatue_einer_Griechin_im_Mantel_2_Jhdt_v_ Chr.jpg/205px-Terrkottastatue_einer_Griechin_im_Mantel_2_Jhdt_v_ Chr.jpg
alnortedelsur
11-26-2017, 05:50 AM
bump
alnortedelsur
12-10-2017, 06:25 AM
bump
alnortedelsur
04-12-2018, 04:32 PM
bump
Latinus
04-14-2018, 02:40 AM
Gracile-Med + Alpine.
alnortedelsur
12-19-2018, 05:30 AM
Gracile-Med + Alpine.
Do you think she could pass as white Brazilian, if she lived today?
Smeagol
12-19-2018, 05:32 AM
Their family drama was something that would be hard (disgusting) to recreate in a modern day drama today.
It was depicted very well in I, Claudius (1976).
Freeroostah
12-19-2018, 06:20 AM
Alpine-Med
Papastratosels26
12-19-2018, 06:40 AM
Alpine - Med
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CommonSense
12-19-2018, 01:05 PM
Gracile-Med + Alpine
Silver Lining
12-19-2018, 01:23 PM
probably Alpine and Med, yes. I doubt her nose was as straight as it is depicted on that bust.
alnortedelsur
12-19-2018, 03:07 PM
Gracile-Med + Alpine
Do you think she could pass as Serbian?
alnortedelsur
12-19-2018, 03:07 PM
probably Alpine and Med, yes. I doubt her nose was as straight as it is depicted on that bust.
Do you think she could pass as German? if she lived?
Silver Lining
12-19-2018, 08:13 PM
Do you think she could pass as German? if she lived?
Everyone can pass as German these days.
alnortedelsur
12-19-2018, 09:26 PM
Everyone can pass as German these days.
I meant if she could pass as ethnic German.
Latinus
12-20-2018, 12:57 AM
Do you think she could pass as white Brazilian, if she lived today?
Of course.
CommonSense
12-20-2018, 09:31 PM
Do you think she could pass as Serbian?
I'm pretty sure she could.
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