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Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 02:39 AM
There is a large divide between these results and those of Tuscany.

This shows, to me, that the increase in West Asian begins at Lazio/Abruzzo, and there is a sharp divide between these and Tuscany/Marche/Umbria. Lazio is already southern Italian genetically.

PERSON #1:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.18
2 West_Med 17.5
3 Atlantic 17.02
4 West_Asian 14
5 North_Sea 8.13
6 Baltic 5.2
7 Red_Sea 3.22
8 Eastern_Euro 2.56
9 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.49
2 West_Sicilian 6.35
3 Central_Greek 6.55
4 East_Sicilian 6.89
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.21
6 Italian_Jewish 7.49
7 Sephardic_Jewish 8.02
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.56
9 Ashkenazi 9.65
10 Greek 10.18
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.04
12 Tuscan 12.09
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.54
14 Cyprian 14.02
15 Libyan_Jewish 15.05
16 Lebanese_Muslim 18.13
17 North_Italian 18.26
18 Bulgarian 18.5
19 Turkish 19.68
20 Syrian 19.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.5% Cyprian + 34.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.72
2 73.3% West_Sicilian + 26.7% Cyprian @ 4.04
3 72.4% South_Italian + 27.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.09
4 66.3% Cyprian + 33.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.13
5 68% Cyprian + 32% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.16
6 69.2% Cyprian + 30.8% Southwest_French @ 4.2
7 64.5% Cyprian + 35.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.21
8 82.4% West_Sicilian + 17.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.24
9 73.8% Cyprian + 26.2% French_Basque @ 4.29
10 97% South_Italian + 3% French_Basque @ 4.34
11 64.9% Cyprian + 35.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.34
12 96% South_Italian + 4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.36
13 57.1% Cyprian + 42.9% North_Italian @ 4.38
14 66.7% Cyprian + 33.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.39
15 96.7% South_Italian + 3.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.39
16 96.5% South_Italian + 3.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.4
17 97% South_Italian + 3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.41
18 96.8% South_Italian + 3.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.42
19 97.4% South_Italian + 2.6% Southwest_French @ 4.42
20 92.4% South_Italian + 7.6% Greek @ 4.43


MDLP:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.80
2 European_Early_Farmers 25.96
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.83
4 Near_East 9.66
5 South_Central_Asian 9.32
6 North_African 5.59


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 3.740780
2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.023220
3 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.301664
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.103673
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.435147
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.694051
7 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 6.848995
8 Maltese_ @ 7.081935
9 French_Jew_ @ 7.847890
10 Ashkenazi_ @ 8.380787
11 Cretan_ @ 8.853014
12 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.404002
13 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.846186
14 Italian_South_ @ 9.979024
15 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 10.110147
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.209079
17 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 10.575519
18 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 10.605286
19 Central_Greek_ @ 10.866992
20 Greek_ @ 11.108239

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian_Arzni_ +50% Spaniard_ @ 3.068379


PERSON #2:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.7
2 Atlantic 17.34
3 West_Med 17.23
4 West_Asian 13.41
5 North_Sea 10.72
6 Red_Sea 4
7 Baltic 2.87
8 Siberian 0.79
9 Northeast_African 0.39
10 Eastern_Euro 0.35
11 Oceanian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.55
2 West_Sicilian 6.74
3 Italian_Jewish 6.75
4 East_Sicilian 7.67
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.67
6 Sephardic_Jewish 7.98
7 Central_Greek 8.02
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.58
9 Ashkenazi 10.52
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.77
11 Tuscan 12.05
12 Greek 12.62
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.69
14 Libyan_Jewish 14.15
15 Cyprian 14.8
16 North_Italian 18.15
17 Lebanese_Muslim 18.44
18 Syrian 19.91
19 Bulgarian 20.26
20 Turkish 20.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.1% Lebanese_Druze + 47.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.95
2 55.9% Lebanese_Druze + 44.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.19
3 53.5% Lebanese_Druze + 46.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.29
4 54.4% Lebanese_Druze + 45.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.36
5 56.7% Lebanese_Druze + 43.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.5
6 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.5
7 66.5% Tuscan + 33.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.62
8 82% West_Sicilian + 18% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.69
9 62.9% Lebanese_Druze + 37.1% French_Basque @ 4.71
10 63.1% Cyprian + 36.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.72
11 53.9% Lebanese_Christian + 46.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.72
12 57.6% Lebanese_Druze + 42.4% Southwest_French @ 4.79
13 52.2% Lebanese_Druze + 47.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.79
14 55.9% Italian_Jewish + 44.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.84
15 64.4% Cyprian + 35.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.93
16 64.9% Cyprian + 35.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.93
17 52.5% Lebanese_Christian + 47.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5
18 54% Lebanese_Druze + 46% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5
19 56.3% Lebanese_Christian + 43.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.02
20 82.8% West_Sicilian + 17.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.03



MDLP:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.01
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.54
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.92
4 Near_East 9.75
5 South_Central_Asian 8.65
6 North_African 7.41


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 3.819458
2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 4.091838
3 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.200346
4 Maltese_ @ 5.304749
5 French_Jew_ @ 6.243902
6 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.359326
7 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.397717
8 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.098785
9 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 7.259040
10 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 8.975266
11 Ashkenazi_ @ 9.221034
12 Italian_Jew_ @ 9.506363
13 Cretan_ @ 9.807951
14 Turk_Jew_ @ 9.888576
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.973098
16 Romanian_Jew_ @ 10.065354
17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 10.944001
18 Italian_South_ @ 10.955512
19 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 11.141397
20 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 11.300898

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.169586


PERSON #3:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.05
2 North_Sea 19.92
3 Atlantic 17.46
4 West_Med 14.56
5 West_Asian 14.46
6 Red_Sea 4.14
7 Eastern_Euro 3.62
8 Amerindian 0.92
9 Baltic 0.69
10 Southeast_Asian 0.14
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 8.5
2 Tuscan 10
3 West_Sicilian 10.85
4 Central_Greek 11.53
5 East_Sicilian 11.71
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.56
7 Ashkenazi 12.72
8 South_Italian 12.99
9 North_Italian 14
10 Greek 14.31
11 Italian_Jewish 15.11
12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.53
13 Bulgarian 17.42
14 Romanian 17.58
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.66
16 Serbian 18.93
17 Spanish_Extremadura 19.1
18 Portuguese 19.19
19 Spanish_Murcia 19.4
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.6% Cyprian + 42.4% Orcadian @ 5.5
2 59.9% French + 40.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.9
3 55.2% Cyprian + 44.8% Southwest_English @ 6
4 55.7% Cyprian + 44.3% Southeast_English @ 6.15
5 68.9% Italian_Jewish + 31.1% Orcadian @ 6.15
6 59.3% French + 40.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.23
7 59.3% French + 40.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.24
8 51.3% Southwest_English + 48.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.33
9 57.6% Cyprian + 42.4% West_Scottish @ 6.35
10 73.1% South_Italian + 26.9% Orcadian @ 6.5
11 84.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.2% Orcadian @ 6.51
12 58.5% French + 41.5% Assyrian @ 6.55
13 54.7% French + 45.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.58
14 52.8% French + 47.2% Cyprian @ 6.6
15 57.4% Cyprian + 42.6% Irish @ 6.6
16 86% Italian_Abruzzo + 14% West_Norwegian @ 6.63
17 66.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 33.2% Orcadian @ 6.64
18 69.1% Italian_Jewish + 30.9% West_Scottish @ 6.71
19 81.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.8% West_German @ 6.71
20 67.4% Italian_Jewish + 32.6% Southeast_English @ 6.73


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.75
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.81
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 14.38
4 Near_East 9.36
5 South_Central_Asian 7.34
6 Ancestral_Altaic 4.50
7 North_African 4.28


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.907647
2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.361794
3 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.598493
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.142911
5 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 7.388560
6 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 7.665928
7 Maltese_ @ 8.502171
8 Ashkenazi_ @ 8.612130
9 Greek_Northwest_ @ 8.723336
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.747108
11 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 9.140839
12 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 9.388847
13 Central_Greek_ @ 9.471651
14 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.676257
15 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 10.245440
16 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 10.353944
17 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.498075
18 Greek_ @ 10.667830
19 Cretan_ @ 10.736432
20 French_Jew_ @ 10.865754

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_ +50% Lebanese_Druze_ @ 3.462934


PERSON #4:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.49
2 West_Asian 18.36
3 West_Med 15.87
4 North_Sea 14.53
5 Atlantic 11.23
6 Red_Sea 5.09
7 Baltic 3.13
8 Eastern_Euro 1.75
9 Southeast_Asian 0.71
10 Amerindian 0.44
11 Sub-Saharan 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 6.43
2 East_Sicilian 7.02
3 South_Italian 7.24
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.42
5 Ashkenazi 8.42
6 Italian_Jewish 10.01
7 West_Sicilian 10.43
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.17
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.35
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.66
11 Greek 12.7
12 Tuscan 13.17
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.98
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.13
15 Cyprian 15.29
16 Turkish 16.74
17 Lebanese_Muslim 17.4
18 Syrian 18.51
19 Bulgarian 18.52
20 North_Italian 19.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% Assyrian + 44.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.72
2 67.6% Cyprian + 32.4% West_German @ 4.89
3 72.8% Cyprian + 27.2% Orcadian @ 4.9
4 55.3% Assyrian + 44.7% Portuguese @ 4.95
5 52.5% North_Italian + 47.5% Assyrian @ 5.04
6 62.7% Tuscan + 37.3% Assyrian @ 5.07
7 63.8% Tuscan + 36.2% Armenian @ 5.14
8 53.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 46.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.18
9 71.3% Cyprian + 28.7% Southwest_English @ 5.18
10 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% West_Norwegian @ 5.22
11 54.8% North_Italian + 45.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.27
12 80.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.7% Armenian @ 5.28
13 80% Italian_Abruzzo + 20% Assyrian @ 5.39
14 64.3% Tuscan + 35.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.4
15 53% Kurdish_Jewish + 47% Portuguese @ 5.43
16 81.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.44
17 65.1% Tuscan + 34.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.44
18 72.4% Cyprian + 27.6% North_Dutch @ 5.44
19 71.8% Cyprian + 28.2% Southeast_English @ 5.46
20 56.8% Assyrian + 43.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.49


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.26
2 European_Early_Farmers 22.62
3 Near_East 11.61
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.19
5 South_Central_Asian 8.61
6 North_African 3.84
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.08


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cretan_ @ 4.681954
2 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.365431
3 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.644185
4 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.925197
5 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.994880
6 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 6.346540
7 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 6.639662
8 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.908091
9 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 7.341314
10 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.342155
11 Italian_South_ @ 7.585980
12 French_Jew_ @ 7.690322
13 Greek_Athens_ @ 7.753304
14 Greek_ @ 8.391684
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.552393
16 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.564301
17 Maltese_ @ 8.616957
18 Greek_Islands_ @ 8.672733
19 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 9.451081
20 Central_Greek_ @ 9.542841

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Smyrna_ +50% Sicilian_West_ @ 2.328125



PERSON #5:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.97
2 West_Med 19.35
3 West_Asian 17.14
4 North_Sea 14.07
5 Atlantic 12.92
6 Red_Sea 4.69
7 Baltic 3.16
8 Northeast_African 0.69
9 Eastern_Euro 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.97
2 Central_Greek 6.28
3 East_Sicilian 6.32
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.91
5 West_Sicilian 8.97
6 Italian_Jewish 9.37
7 Ashkenazi 9.44
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.03
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.2
10 Tuscan 11.23
11 Algerian_Jewish 11.84
12 Greek 12.32
13 Tunisian_Jewish 15
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.3
15 Cyprian 16.22
16 North_Italian 17.26
17 Bulgarian 18.8
18 Turkish 19.31
19 Lebanese_Muslim 19.34
20 Romanian 20.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91% South_Italian + 9% West_German @ 5.16
2 92.9% South_Italian + 7.1% Orcadian @ 5.18
3 93.2% South_Italian + 6.8% West_Norwegian @ 5.2
4 92.7% South_Italian + 7.3% Southwest_English @ 5.29
5 93.5% South_Italian + 6.5% Norwegian @ 5.31
6 93.3% South_Italian + 6.7% North_Dutch @ 5.34
7 91.1% South_Italian + 8.9% French @ 5.34
8 93.2% South_Italian + 6.8% Southeast_English @ 5.36
9 93.6% South_Italian + 6.4% West_Scottish @ 5.37
10 93.8% South_Italian + 6.2% Swedish @ 5.38
11 93.7% South_Italian + 6.3% Irish @ 5.4
12 93.7% South_Italian + 6.3% Danish @ 5.4
13 92.7% South_Italian + 7.3% South_Dutch @ 5.46
14 91% South_Italian + 9% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.48
15 70.8% Tuscan + 29.2% Armenian @ 5.51
16 93.9% South_Italian + 6.1% North_German @ 5.51
17 64.6% South_Italian + 35.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.52
18 94.7% South_Italian + 5.3% North_Swedish @ 5.54
19 91.5% South_Italian + 8.5% Portuguese @ 5.56
20 70.2% Tuscan + 29.8% Assyrian @ 5.57


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.07
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.03
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.22
4 Near_East 10.98
5 South_Central_Asian 7.34
6 North_African 5.17
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.01


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 3.484056
2 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 3.925985
3 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 4.106767
4 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 4.148342
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 4.568845
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.410632
7 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 5.935723
8 Maltese_ @ 6.184812
9 French_Jew_ @ 6.483312
10 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.015222
11 Cretan_ @ 7.561227
12 Sicilian_Center_ @ 7.621271
13 Romanian_Jew_ @ 7.670275
14 Italian_South_ @ 8.290863
15 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 8.701403
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 8.956029
17 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.367017
18 Italian_Jew_ @ 9.511180
19 Turk_Jew_ @ 9.758000
20 Greek_ @ 9.998564

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan_ +50% Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 2.230788


PERSON #6:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.52
2 West_Med 19.08
3 West_Asian 16.03
4 Atlantic 10.95
5 North_Sea 9.49
6 Baltic 6.38
7 Red_Sea 5.82
8 Eastern_Euro 2.36
9 Oceanian 0.3
10 Southeast_Asian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.39
2 Central_Greek 3.56
3 East_Sicilian 4.13
4 Ashkenazi 6.56
5 Italian_Jewish 7.42
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.43
7 West_Sicilian 8.59
8 Sephardic_Jewish 8.64
9 Algerian_Jewish 9.16
10 Greek_Thessaly 9.84
11 Greek 9.88
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.51
13 Tuscan 12.65
14 Cyprian 12.77
15 Libyan_Jewish 13.5
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.71
17 Bulgarian 17.62
18 Syrian 17.66
19 Turkish 17.78
20 North_Italian 19.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Cyprian @ 2.32
2 88.1% Central_Greek + 11.9% Samaritan @ 2.41
3 89.1% Central_Greek + 10.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.49
4 84.4% Central_Greek + 15.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.59
5 75.4% Central_Greek + 24.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.77
6 53.5% South_Italian + 46.5% Central_Greek @ 2.79
7 79.9% Central_Greek + 20.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.81
8 91.1% Central_Greek + 8.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.82
9 85.8% Central_Greek + 14.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.94
10 92% Central_Greek + 8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.95
11 91.6% Central_Greek + 8.4% Palestinian @ 2.96
12 89.3% Central_Greek + 10.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.97
13 89.9% Central_Greek + 10.1% Syrian @ 2.97
14 78.8% South_Italian + 21.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.01
15 85.9% South_Italian + 14.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
16 91.8% Central_Greek + 8.2% Jordanian @ 3.05
17 95.2% Central_Greek + 4.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.05
18 81.6% Central_Greek + 18.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.07
19 93% Central_Greek + 7% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.11
20 82.1% East_Sicilian + 17.9% Cyprian @ 3.13


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.25
2 European_Early_Farmers 25.60
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.76
4 Near_East 10.62
5 South_Central_Asian 8.60
6 North_African 4.36
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.56


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.253932
2 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.154070
3 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.299913
4 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.421230
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.782715
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.202972
7 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 6.727111
8 French_Jew_ @ 7.063737
9 Cretan_ @ 7.308262
10 Maltese_ @ 7.311482
11 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.907372
12 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 7.925321
13 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.152286
14 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.622907
15 Italian_South_ @ 8.685142
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 9.095657
17 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.705308
18 Greek_Islands_ @ 9.960713
19 Italian_Jew_ @ 10.083681
20 Greek_ @ 10.146211

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan_ +50% Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 2.860825

JMack
11-25-2017, 02:50 AM
I don't want to insist in this subject, but these are probably cherrypicked results. Not normal ones for this region.

Now you will start to label Romans and Central Italians as Levantines too? In the end I think even Venetians will become West Asians. ''Depigmented/Blonde Turks or Kurds''.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 02:52 AM
I don't want to insist in this subject, but these are probably cherrypicked results. Not normal ones for this region.

Now you will start to label Romans and Central Italians as Levantines too?

Actually no. If you look, they have elevated Caucasian input (West Asian on Eurogenes) which the Italian genetic cline is defined by an increase in Caucasus as you go south and a decrease of North European/Steppe. They do not have the elevated North African, Red Sea, etc. and this is how they differ from Italians even further south.

These are all from Frosinone in Lazio. There may be differences in the parts north of Rome.

Cristiano viejo
11-25-2017, 02:53 AM
This is why when in your Sicilian threads you ask where they pass I always say: in the rest of Italy.

Hadouken
11-25-2017, 02:53 AM
I don't want to insist in this subject, but these are probably cherrypicked results. Not normal ones for this region.

Now you will start to label Romans and Central Italians as Levantines too? In the end I think even Venetians will become West Asians. ''Depigmented/Blonde Turks or Kurds''.

I wish man :) thats my dream

I also want to have a piece of the cake of the italian geography

Tauromachos
11-25-2017, 02:53 AM
I don't want to insist in this subject, but these are probably cherrypicked results. Not normal ones for this region.

Now you will start to label Romans and Central Italians as Levantines too? In the end I think even Venetians will become West Asians. ''Depigmented/Blonde Turks or Kurds''.

Yes and Greeks even the Western half of Aegean Islanders and Cretans will become Kosovars,Montenegrins or even Slovaks and Poles and
who knows what else..

The few Eastern Island Greek that remain will be claimed to look identical to Mizrahi Jews and Assyrians.

And will be annected by Hisbollah Sheik Nasralah as North West Lebanon

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 02:56 AM
Yes and Greeks even the Western half of Aegean Islanders and Cretans will become Kosovars,Montenegrins or even Slovaks and Poles and
who knows what else..

The few Eastern Island Greek that remain will be claimed to look identical to Mizrahi Jews and Assyrians.

And will be annected by Hisbollah Sheik Nasralah as North West Lebanon


You know my opinion is that everything north of the Peloponnese is more Balkan, and everything south of and including it is more like Italy. Though these people from near Rome are closer to Cretans than to mainlanders, which is because in Lazio/Abruzzo, the increase in Caucasus already happened.

JMack
11-25-2017, 02:57 AM
These are all from Frosinone in Lazio. There may be differences in the parts north of Rome.

Or maybe this is just a particular result. I have seen others even more Southern with more Northern input. I mean, everyone can cherrypick individual results, it's not difficult. There are people in Spain and Portugal scoring up to 15% North African, but since there's no user insisting in exotifying them here, these results are ignored. And it's right, because they are not average.

Just to note: Only some Sicilians score significant North African, there's no North African in Italian mainland.

JMack
11-25-2017, 02:58 AM
I wish man :) thats my dream

I also want to have a piece of the cake of the italian geography

I think you would be welcome in any place All-In.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 02:59 AM
Or maybe this is just a particular result. I have seen others even more Southern with more Northern input. I mean, everyone can cherrypick individual results, it's not difficult. There are people in Spain and Portugal scoring up to 15% North African, but since there's no user insisting in exotifying them here, these results are ignored. And it's right, because they are not average.


If you have results from Lazio that are not like these, you're welcome to post them, however these are all from there, so it shows at the very least these results are SOME of what you'll find, and they are almost exactly like Calabria or Sicily but with less Red Sea/SW Asian/etc. type stuff. The Caucasian is already at South Italian or Cretan levels and different from Tuscany.

Tauromachos
11-25-2017, 02:59 AM
You know my opinion is that everything north of the Peloponnese is more Balkan, and everything south of and including it is more like Italy. Though these people from near Rome are closer to Cretans than to mainlanders, which is because in Lazio/Abruzzo, the increase in Caucasus already happened.

http://217.218.67.233/photo/20170830/a6d5a0b7-4596-4d14-8633-a1e257a09a00.jpg

Hadouken
11-25-2017, 02:59 AM
I think you would be welcome in any place All-In.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/357/055/f34.png

Cristiano viejo
11-25-2017, 03:05 AM
Or maybe this is just a particular result. I have seen others even more Southern with more Northern input. I mean, everyone can cherrypick individual results, it's not difficult. There are people in Spain and Portugal scoring up to 15% North African,

but since there's no user insisting in exotifying them here, these results are ignored. And it's right, because they are not average.
What?? jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, no user exotifiying us?????????? are you joking????? :lmao

And what do Spain and Portugal have to do here? why do you have the need to name it?

15% North African? show a single dna test of any Spaniard scoring that amount. Talking is so easy...


Just to note: Only some Sicilians score significant North African, there's no North African in Italian mainland.
Yes, there are, how can you deny? review these results of above.

JMack
11-25-2017, 03:08 AM
Yes and Greeks even the Western half of Aegean Islanders and Cretans will become Kosovars,Montenegrins or even Slovaks and Poles and
who knows what else..

The few Eastern Island Greek that remain will be claimed to look identical to Mizrahi Jews and Assyrians.

And will be annected by Hisbollah Sheik Nasralah as North West Lebanon

Just mark my words, even guys like Totti will be called ''Levantines'' in future trollings. I can see his West Asian features and aquiline nose, lol.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/801423774050566144/kgy9WoSj.jpg

I think Italians should start wearing turbans to reconnect with their roots.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 03:11 AM
Just mark my words, even guys like Totti will be called ''Levantines'' in future trollings. I can see his West Asian features and aquiline nose, lol.

I don't think you can actually believe anyone would suggest he looks Levantine.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 03:15 AM
Anyway as I said if these are atypical, then find ones that are different. I am not saying these are all of them, these are just the ones I have access to.

JMack
11-25-2017, 03:17 AM
I don't think you can actually believe anyone would suggest he looks Levantine.

I have seen some weird cases here, so I would not doubt it. ''Looks like a depigmented Lebanese''.
At the end of the day, these things are highly subjective. Of course Totti looks nothing like Levantines.
But I remember people saying that a certain Anglo member looks Turkish (he doesn't even look passable there IMO).
Most people here and other anthroforums just say bullshit in classifications.

I'm not certain if you're trolling or not, but certainly there are people trolling Italians in this forum and you know it.
Some don't even hide it. So when following for your agenda whatever it is you're helping them even if you don't want to troll Italians (what I doubt tbh).

Argentano
11-25-2017, 03:28 AM
it would be better if you type the results in an excel and then present them in a chart or something like that. Much Easier than reading text. For example a barplot with different italian results starting in north italy and finishing in South italy.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 03:32 AM
I'm not certain if you're trolling or not, but certainly there are people trolling Italians in this forum and you know it.
Some don't even hide it. So when following for your agenda whatever it is you're helping them even if you don't want to troll Italians (what I doubt tbh).


I am posting this more in shock that there is an area in central Italy where the results change abruptly. As I said the Italian cline is due to an increase in Caucasian DNA as you go south, but I thought it was more gradual than this. Then from Lazio to Sicily, the cline is an increase in SW Asian/Red Sea type stuff.

Tauromachos
11-25-2017, 09:51 AM
Just mark my words, even guys like Totti will be called ''Levantines'' in future trollings. I can see his West Asian features and aquiline nose, lol.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/801423774050566144/kgy9WoSj.jpg

I think Italians should start wearing turbans to reconnect with their roots.

Even Julius Caeser will be claimed Levantine looking no matter how much GrabtheGauge insists that ancient Romans were nordic :)

MinervaItalica
11-25-2017, 10:18 AM
I don't want to insist in this subject, but these are probably cherrypicked results. Not normal ones for this region.

Now you will start to label Romans and Central Italians as Levantines too? In the end I think even Venetians will become West Asians. ''Depigmented/Blonde Turks or Kurds''.

There is clearly an agenda here. 0 credibility about those stats.

Antimage
11-25-2017, 10:24 AM
How do you know his family history? He may have ancestry from south.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 11:34 AM
How do you know his family history? He may have ancestry from south.

These are 5 different people and when they list their family trees on GEDmatch you can see where each grandparent was from.

If someone is going to say these are NOT people from Lazio, have some evidence or proof OR provide people who are from there who are different. Right now, all I see is whining and denying.

Leto
11-25-2017, 11:43 AM
I have seen some weird cases here, so I would not doubt it. ''Looks like a depigmented Lebanese''.
At the end of the day, these things are highly subjective. Of course Totti looks nothing like Levantines.
But I remember people saying that a certain Anglo member looks Turkish (he doesn't even look passable there IMO).
Most people here and other anthroforums just say bullshit in classifications.

I'm not certain if you're trolling or not, but certainly there are people trolling Italians in this forum and you know it.
Some don't even hide it. So when following for your agenda whatever it is you're helping them even if you don't want to troll Italians (what I doubt tbh).
Does the PM of Lebanon pass in Italy?
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4e35eb20fc74e8c93c39dd51bf49eb96

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 11:46 AM
Does the PM of Lebanon pass in Italy?
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4e35eb20fc74e8c93c39dd51bf49eb96

IMO yes even if not the most typical type.

Tauromachos
11-25-2017, 11:47 AM
IMO yes even if not the most typical type.

What rating do you give him 1-10 for Sicilian looking?

Leto
11-25-2017, 11:48 AM
IMO yes even if not the most typical type.
This South Italian politician (https://www.google.ru/search?q=luigi+di+maio&newwindow=1&hl=ru&dcr=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjo_teZ4dnXAhUBEJoKHfcmBvAQ_AUICygC&biw=1024&bih=680) is even a bit darker than him. One of the darkest Europeans I've seen.

Percivalle
11-25-2017, 11:58 AM
There is a large divide between these results and those of Tuscany.

This shows, to me, that the increase in West Asian begins at Lazio/Abruzzo, and there is a sharp divide between these and Tuscany/Marche/Umbria. Lazio is already southern Italian genetically.

Lazio isn't already southern Italian genetically, this is completely against peer-reviewed papers. It means that these results belong to someone who is not central Italian or not fully central Italian. C'mon, it's even more southern-shifted than Italian_Abruzzo.


Actually no. If you look, they have elevated Caucasian input (West Asian on Eurogenes) which the Italian genetic cline is defined by an increase in Caucasus as you go south and a decrease of North European/Steppe. They do not have the elevated North African, Red Sea, etc. and this is how they differ from Italians even further south.

These are all from Frosinone in Lazio. There may be differences in the parts north of Rome.

In the title of the thread you've said that they were from Rome. Now you're claiming these results are Frosinone. Frosinone province is where the southern dialects starts to be spoken, so it's obvious that there are people there who are southern Italian genetically.

Actually the presence of Cristiano Viejo discredits completely this thread.

Percivalle
11-25-2017, 12:02 PM
These are 5 different people and when they list their family trees on GEDmatch you can see where each grandparent was from.

If someone is going to say these are NOT people from Lazio, have some evidence or proof OR provide people who are from there who are different. Right now, all I see is whining and denying.


I would like to see their trees on Gedcom. If they are from Frosinone province, actually many parts of the province of Frosinone belonged to Campania untill 1926.


The Province of Frosinone was established by Royal Decree on 6 December 1926 with territories belonging to Lazio and to Campania. The Campania areas were the left valley of the Liri-Garigliano river, the district of Sora, the Comino Valley, the district of Cassino, the Gulf of Formia and Gaeta, the Pontine islands, which until then had been for centuries included in the Province called Terra di Lavoro, of the Kingdom of Naples (or of the Two Sicilies).

MinervaItalica
11-25-2017, 12:05 PM
Does the PM of Lebanon pass in Italy?
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4e35eb20fc74e8c93c39dd51bf49eb96

He can but only because Lebanon has been colonized by European Christians this is why some white Lebanese can pass in Italy (but also in France and Spain) do you think that high caste politician is a common type in Lebanon? I don't think so. Now people cut yourself your fucking agenda no one in a mentally sane world would say Italians are Levantines.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lebanese-people-hold-their-national-flags-and-banners-as-they-protest-picture-id515105600

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9c89d6886e19060d1cfb0ac12dd0ac5d-c

Leto
11-25-2017, 12:07 PM
He can but only because Lebanon has been colonized by European Christians this is why some white Lebanese can pass in Italy (but also in France and Spain) do you think that that high caste politician is a common type in Lebanon? I don't think so. Now people cut yourself your fucking agenda no one in a mentally sane world would say Italians are Levantines.
Muzzies are somewhat mixed with Arabians and even nigs. The Christians of Lebanon are purer.

MinervaItalica
11-25-2017, 12:10 PM
He can but only because Lebanon has been colonized by European Christians this is why some white Lebanese can pass in Italy (but also in France and Spain)

Same goes with North Africa (Tunisia especially). The North African people who can pass in Italy are the lighter ones, the ones who are closer to Europeans.

Damiăo de Góis
11-25-2017, 12:22 PM
There are people in Spain and Portugal scoring up to 15% North African,

15%? Not even Canarians on Dodecad k12b (the run that inflates North African the most) score that. Where have you seen that number?

Cristiano viejo
11-25-2017, 12:31 PM
15%? Not even Canarians on Dodecad k12b (the run that inflates North African the most) score that. Where have you seen that number?

In Italic Roots :laugh:

Leto
11-25-2017, 12:33 PM
Half Italian from Abruzzo/Molise, half Christian Lebanese. I already posted her daughter who is half Germanic. This is a pretty damn Roman mix :D

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37
2 West_Asian 19.55
3 West_Med 17.45
4 Red_Sea 9.83
5 North_Atlantic 7.98
6 Baltic 6.29
7 South_Asian 1.28
8 Northeast_African 0.59
9 Amerindian 0.03
10 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cyprian 5.9
2 Lebanese_Muslim 7.72
3 Syrian 9.22
4 Sephardic_Jewish 9.94
5 Tunisian_Jewish 9.95
6 Libyan_Jewish 10.79
7 Algerian_Jewish 11.03
8 Samaritan 11.39
9 Italian_Jewish 11.51
10 South_Italian 11.66
11 Ashkenazi 11.68
12 East_Sicilian 12.07
13 Lebanese_Christian 12.21
14 Central_Greek 12.8
15 Lebanese_Druze 12.93
16 Jordanian 12.96
17 Palestinian 13.24
18 Turkish 14.57
19 Assyrian 14.77
20 Kurdish_Jewish 14.84

51.2% Lebanese_Christian + 48.8% Central_Greek @ 2.69

Her son. Half Germanic (German/Norwegian)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.28
2 East_Med 18.36
3 Baltic 15.81
4 West_Med 15.73
5 West_Asian 12.19
6 Red_Sea 7.31
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Oceanian 0.44
9 South_Asian 0.39
10 Sub-Saharan 0.38
11 Amerindian 0.24
12 Northeast_African 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 9.84
2 Bulgarian 10.84
3 Tuscan 11.2
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.45
5 Serbian 11.72
6 North_Italian 11.97
7 Italian_Abruzzo 12.53
8 West_Sicilian 14.69
9 Central_Greek 15.74
10 East_Sicilian 16.38
11 Portuguese 16.4
12 French 16.5
13 Spanish_Extremadura 17.04
14 Spanish_Galicia 17.23
15 Hungarian 17.84
16 West_German 18.17
17 Spanish_Murcia 18.2
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.28
19 Austrian 18.41
20 Moldavian 18.44

5 French + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + Syrian @ 2.592118
7 East_German + Italian_Abruzzo + Southwest_English + Syrian @ 2.616189

Percivalle
11-25-2017, 12:39 PM
Half Italian from Abruzzo/Molise, half Christian Lebanese. I already posted her daughter who is half Germanic. This is a pretty damn Romanian mix :D

As it is a Romanian and Bulgarian mix as well.

Argentano
11-25-2017, 01:31 PM
As it is a Romanian and Bulgarian mix as well.

werent you the one who asked for my result and my dad? where are the final italian gedmatch results? you never posted them?

Percivalle
11-25-2017, 01:52 PM
werent you the one who asked for my result and my dad? where are the final italian gedmatch results? you never posted them?

No, still working on it.

Sikeliot
11-25-2017, 01:53 PM
I would like to see their trees on Gedcom. If they are from Frosinone province, actually many parts of the province of Frosinone belonged to Campania untill 1926.

One is from Rome. #3. Rest from Frosinone.

Percivalle
11-25-2017, 02:02 PM
One is from Rome. #3. Rest from Frosinone.

Can you send me their gedmatch kits, please?

Geni
11-25-2017, 03:05 PM
There is a large divide between these results and those of Tuscany.

This shows, to me, that the increase in West Asian begins at Lazio/Abruzzo, and there is a sharp divide between these and Tuscany/Marche/Umbria. Lazio is already southern Italian genetically.

PERSON #1:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.18
2 West_Med 17.5
3 Atlantic 17.02
4 West_Asian 14
5 North_Sea 8.13
6 Baltic 5.2
7 Red_Sea 3.22
8 Eastern_Euro 2.56
9 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.49
2 West_Sicilian 6.35
3 Central_Greek 6.55
4 East_Sicilian 6.89
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.21
6 Italian_Jewish 7.49
7 Sephardic_Jewish 8.02
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.56
9 Ashkenazi 9.65
10 Greek 10.18
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.04
12 Tuscan 12.09
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.54
14 Cyprian 14.02
15 Libyan_Jewish 15.05
16 Lebanese_Muslim 18.13
17 North_Italian 18.26
18 Bulgarian 18.5
19 Turkish 19.68
20 Syrian 19.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.5% Cyprian + 34.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.72
2 73.3% West_Sicilian + 26.7% Cyprian @ 4.04
3 72.4% South_Italian + 27.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.09
4 66.3% Cyprian + 33.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.13
5 68% Cyprian + 32% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.16
6 69.2% Cyprian + 30.8% Southwest_French @ 4.2
7 64.5% Cyprian + 35.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.21
8 82.4% West_Sicilian + 17.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.24
9 73.8% Cyprian + 26.2% French_Basque @ 4.29
10 97% South_Italian + 3% French_Basque @ 4.34
11 64.9% Cyprian + 35.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.34
12 96% South_Italian + 4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.36
13 57.1% Cyprian + 42.9% North_Italian @ 4.38
14 66.7% Cyprian + 33.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.39
15 96.7% South_Italian + 3.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.39
16 96.5% South_Italian + 3.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.4
17 97% South_Italian + 3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.41
18 96.8% South_Italian + 3.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.42
19 97.4% South_Italian + 2.6% Southwest_French @ 4.42
20 92.4% South_Italian + 7.6% Greek @ 4.43


MDLP:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.80
2 European_Early_Farmers 25.96
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.83
4 Near_East 9.66
5 South_Central_Asian 9.32
6 North_African 5.59


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 3.740780
2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.023220
3 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.301664
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.103673
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.435147
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.694051
7 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 6.848995
8 Maltese_ @ 7.081935
9 French_Jew_ @ 7.847890
10 Ashkenazi_ @ 8.380787
11 Cretan_ @ 8.853014
12 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.404002
13 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.846186
14 Italian_South_ @ 9.979024
15 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 10.110147
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.209079
17 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 10.575519
18 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 10.605286
19 Central_Greek_ @ 10.866992
20 Greek_ @ 11.108239

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian_Arzni_ +50% Spaniard_ @ 3.068379


PERSON #2:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.7
2 Atlantic 17.34
3 West_Med 17.23
4 West_Asian 13.41
5 North_Sea 10.72
6 Red_Sea 4
7 Baltic 2.87
8 Siberian 0.79
9 Northeast_African 0.39
10 Eastern_Euro 0.35
11 Oceanian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.55
2 West_Sicilian 6.74
3 Italian_Jewish 6.75
4 East_Sicilian 7.67
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.67
6 Sephardic_Jewish 7.98
7 Central_Greek 8.02
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.58
9 Ashkenazi 10.52
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.77
11 Tuscan 12.05
12 Greek 12.62
13 Greek_Thessaly 13.69
14 Libyan_Jewish 14.15
15 Cyprian 14.8
16 North_Italian 18.15
17 Lebanese_Muslim 18.44
18 Syrian 19.91
19 Bulgarian 20.26
20 Turkish 20.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.1% Lebanese_Druze + 47.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.95
2 55.9% Lebanese_Druze + 44.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.19
3 53.5% Lebanese_Druze + 46.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.29
4 54.4% Lebanese_Druze + 45.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.36
5 56.7% Lebanese_Druze + 43.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.5
6 55.7% North_Italian + 44.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.5
7 66.5% Tuscan + 33.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.62
8 82% West_Sicilian + 18% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.69
9 62.9% Lebanese_Druze + 37.1% French_Basque @ 4.71
10 63.1% Cyprian + 36.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.72
11 53.9% Lebanese_Christian + 46.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.72
12 57.6% Lebanese_Druze + 42.4% Southwest_French @ 4.79
13 52.2% Lebanese_Druze + 47.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.79
14 55.9% Italian_Jewish + 44.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.84
15 64.4% Cyprian + 35.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.93
16 64.9% Cyprian + 35.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.93
17 52.5% Lebanese_Christian + 47.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5
18 54% Lebanese_Druze + 46% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5
19 56.3% Lebanese_Christian + 43.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.02
20 82.8% West_Sicilian + 17.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.03



MDLP:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.01
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.54
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.92
4 Near_East 9.75
5 South_Central_Asian 8.65
6 North_African 7.41


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 3.819458
2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 4.091838
3 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.200346
4 Maltese_ @ 5.304749
5 French_Jew_ @ 6.243902
6 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 6.359326
7 Sicilian_East_ @ 6.397717
8 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 7.098785
9 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 7.259040
10 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 8.975266
11 Ashkenazi_ @ 9.221034
12 Italian_Jew_ @ 9.506363
13 Cretan_ @ 9.807951
14 Turk_Jew_ @ 9.888576
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 9.973098
16 Romanian_Jew_ @ 10.065354
17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 10.944001
18 Italian_South_ @ 10.955512
19 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 11.141397
20 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 11.300898

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Bergamo_ +50% Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.169586


PERSON #3:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.05
2 North_Sea 19.92
3 Atlantic 17.46
4 West_Med 14.56
5 West_Asian 14.46
6 Red_Sea 4.14
7 Eastern_Euro 3.62
8 Amerindian 0.92
9 Baltic 0.69
10 Southeast_Asian 0.14
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 8.5
2 Tuscan 10
3 West_Sicilian 10.85
4 Central_Greek 11.53
5 East_Sicilian 11.71
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.56
7 Ashkenazi 12.72
8 South_Italian 12.99
9 North_Italian 14
10 Greek 14.31
11 Italian_Jewish 15.11
12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.53
13 Bulgarian 17.42
14 Romanian 17.58
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.66
16 Serbian 18.93
17 Spanish_Extremadura 19.1
18 Portuguese 19.19
19 Spanish_Murcia 19.4
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.6% Cyprian + 42.4% Orcadian @ 5.5
2 59.9% French + 40.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.9
3 55.2% Cyprian + 44.8% Southwest_English @ 6
4 55.7% Cyprian + 44.3% Southeast_English @ 6.15
5 68.9% Italian_Jewish + 31.1% Orcadian @ 6.15
6 59.3% French + 40.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.23
7 59.3% French + 40.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.24
8 51.3% Southwest_English + 48.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.33
9 57.6% Cyprian + 42.4% West_Scottish @ 6.35
10 73.1% South_Italian + 26.9% Orcadian @ 6.5
11 84.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 15.2% Orcadian @ 6.51
12 58.5% French + 41.5% Assyrian @ 6.55
13 54.7% French + 45.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.58
14 52.8% French + 47.2% Cyprian @ 6.6
15 57.4% Cyprian + 42.6% Irish @ 6.6
16 86% Italian_Abruzzo + 14% West_Norwegian @ 6.63
17 66.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 33.2% Orcadian @ 6.64
18 69.1% Italian_Jewish + 30.9% West_Scottish @ 6.71
19 81.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.8% West_German @ 6.71
20 67.4% Italian_Jewish + 32.6% Southeast_English @ 6.73


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.75
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.81
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 14.38
4 Near_East 9.36
5 South_Central_Asian 7.34
6 Ancestral_Altaic 4.50
7 North_African 4.28


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.907647
2 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 6.361794
3 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.598493
4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 7.142911
5 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 7.388560
6 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 7.665928
7 Maltese_ @ 8.502171
8 Ashkenazi_ @ 8.612130
9 Greek_Northwest_ @ 8.723336
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.747108
11 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 9.140839
12 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 9.388847
13 Central_Greek_ @ 9.471651
14 Romanian_Jew_ @ 9.676257
15 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 10.245440
16 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 10.353944
17 Greek_Athens_ @ 10.498075
18 Greek_ @ 10.667830
19 Cretan_ @ 10.736432
20 French_Jew_ @ 10.865754

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_ +50% Lebanese_Druze_ @ 3.462934


PERSON #4:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.49
2 West_Asian 18.36
3 West_Med 15.87
4 North_Sea 14.53
5 Atlantic 11.23
6 Red_Sea 5.09
7 Baltic 3.13
8 Eastern_Euro 1.75
9 Southeast_Asian 0.71
10 Amerindian 0.44
11 Sub-Saharan 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 6.43
2 East_Sicilian 7.02
3 South_Italian 7.24
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.42
5 Ashkenazi 8.42
6 Italian_Jewish 10.01
7 West_Sicilian 10.43
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.17
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.35
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.66
11 Greek 12.7
12 Tuscan 13.17
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.98
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.13
15 Cyprian 15.29
16 Turkish 16.74
17 Lebanese_Muslim 17.4
18 Syrian 18.51
19 Bulgarian 18.52
20 North_Italian 19.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% Assyrian + 44.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.72
2 67.6% Cyprian + 32.4% West_German @ 4.89
3 72.8% Cyprian + 27.2% Orcadian @ 4.9
4 55.3% Assyrian + 44.7% Portuguese @ 4.95
5 52.5% North_Italian + 47.5% Assyrian @ 5.04
6 62.7% Tuscan + 37.3% Assyrian @ 5.07
7 63.8% Tuscan + 36.2% Armenian @ 5.14
8 53.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 46.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.18
9 71.3% Cyprian + 28.7% Southwest_English @ 5.18
10 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% West_Norwegian @ 5.22
11 54.8% North_Italian + 45.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.27
12 80.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.7% Armenian @ 5.28
13 80% Italian_Abruzzo + 20% Assyrian @ 5.39
14 64.3% Tuscan + 35.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.4
15 53% Kurdish_Jewish + 47% Portuguese @ 5.43
16 81.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.44
17 65.1% Tuscan + 34.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.44
18 72.4% Cyprian + 27.6% North_Dutch @ 5.44
19 71.8% Cyprian + 28.2% Southeast_English @ 5.46
20 56.8% Assyrian + 43.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.49


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.26
2 European_Early_Farmers 22.62
3 Near_East 11.61
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.19
5 South_Central_Asian 8.61
6 North_African 3.84
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.08


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cretan_ @ 4.681954
2 Sicilian_West_ @ 5.365431
3 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.644185
4 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.925197
5 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.994880
6 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 6.346540
7 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 6.639662
8 Romanian_Jew_ @ 6.908091
9 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 7.341314
10 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.342155
11 Italian_South_ @ 7.585980
12 French_Jew_ @ 7.690322
13 Greek_Athens_ @ 7.753304
14 Greek_ @ 8.391684
15 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.552393
16 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 8.564301
17 Maltese_ @ 8.616957
18 Greek_Islands_ @ 8.672733
19 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 9.451081
20 Central_Greek_ @ 9.542841

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Smyrna_ +50% Sicilian_West_ @ 2.328125



PERSON #5:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.97
2 West_Med 19.35
3 West_Asian 17.14
4 North_Sea 14.07
5 Atlantic 12.92
6 Red_Sea 4.69
7 Baltic 3.16
8 Northeast_African 0.69
9 Eastern_Euro 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.97
2 Central_Greek 6.28
3 East_Sicilian 6.32
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.91
5 West_Sicilian 8.97
6 Italian_Jewish 9.37
7 Ashkenazi 9.44
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.03
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.2
10 Tuscan 11.23
11 Algerian_Jewish 11.84
12 Greek 12.32
13 Tunisian_Jewish 15
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.3
15 Cyprian 16.22
16 North_Italian 17.26
17 Bulgarian 18.8
18 Turkish 19.31
19 Lebanese_Muslim 19.34
20 Romanian 20.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91% South_Italian + 9% West_German @ 5.16
2 92.9% South_Italian + 7.1% Orcadian @ 5.18
3 93.2% South_Italian + 6.8% West_Norwegian @ 5.2
4 92.7% South_Italian + 7.3% Southwest_English @ 5.29
5 93.5% South_Italian + 6.5% Norwegian @ 5.31
6 93.3% South_Italian + 6.7% North_Dutch @ 5.34
7 91.1% South_Italian + 8.9% French @ 5.34
8 93.2% South_Italian + 6.8% Southeast_English @ 5.36
9 93.6% South_Italian + 6.4% West_Scottish @ 5.37
10 93.8% South_Italian + 6.2% Swedish @ 5.38
11 93.7% South_Italian + 6.3% Irish @ 5.4
12 93.7% South_Italian + 6.3% Danish @ 5.4
13 92.7% South_Italian + 7.3% South_Dutch @ 5.46
14 91% South_Italian + 9% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.48
15 70.8% Tuscan + 29.2% Armenian @ 5.51
16 93.9% South_Italian + 6.1% North_German @ 5.51
17 64.6% South_Italian + 35.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.52
18 94.7% South_Italian + 5.3% North_Swedish @ 5.54
19 91.5% South_Italian + 8.5% Portuguese @ 5.56
20 70.2% Tuscan + 29.8% Assyrian @ 5.57


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.07
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.03
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.22
4 Near_East 10.98
5 South_Central_Asian 7.34
6 North_African 5.17
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.01


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 3.484056
2 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 3.925985
3 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 4.106767
4 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 4.148342
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 4.568845
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 5.410632
7 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 5.935723
8 Maltese_ @ 6.184812
9 French_Jew_ @ 6.483312
10 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.015222
11 Cretan_ @ 7.561227
12 Sicilian_Center_ @ 7.621271
13 Romanian_Jew_ @ 7.670275
14 Italian_South_ @ 8.290863
15 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 8.701403
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 8.956029
17 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.367017
18 Italian_Jew_ @ 9.511180
19 Turk_Jew_ @ 9.758000
20 Greek_ @ 9.998564

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan_ +50% Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 2.230788


PERSON #6:

Eurogenes:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.52
2 West_Med 19.08
3 West_Asian 16.03
4 Atlantic 10.95
5 North_Sea 9.49
6 Baltic 6.38
7 Red_Sea 5.82
8 Eastern_Euro 2.36
9 Oceanian 0.3
10 Southeast_Asian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 3.39
2 Central_Greek 3.56
3 East_Sicilian 4.13
4 Ashkenazi 6.56
5 Italian_Jewish 7.42
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.43
7 West_Sicilian 8.59
8 Sephardic_Jewish 8.64
9 Algerian_Jewish 9.16
10 Greek_Thessaly 9.84
11 Greek 9.88
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.51
13 Tuscan 12.65
14 Cyprian 12.77
15 Libyan_Jewish 13.5
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.71
17 Bulgarian 17.62
18 Syrian 17.66
19 Turkish 17.78
20 North_Italian 19.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Central_Greek + 17.7% Cyprian @ 2.32
2 88.1% Central_Greek + 11.9% Samaritan @ 2.41
3 89.1% Central_Greek + 10.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.49
4 84.4% Central_Greek + 15.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.59
5 75.4% Central_Greek + 24.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.77
6 53.5% South_Italian + 46.5% Central_Greek @ 2.79
7 79.9% Central_Greek + 20.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.81
8 91.1% Central_Greek + 8.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.82
9 85.8% Central_Greek + 14.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.94
10 92% Central_Greek + 8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.95
11 91.6% Central_Greek + 8.4% Palestinian @ 2.96
12 89.3% Central_Greek + 10.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.97
13 89.9% Central_Greek + 10.1% Syrian @ 2.97
14 78.8% South_Italian + 21.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.01
15 85.9% South_Italian + 14.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02
16 91.8% Central_Greek + 8.2% Jordanian @ 3.05
17 95.2% Central_Greek + 4.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.05
18 81.6% Central_Greek + 18.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.07
19 93% Central_Greek + 7% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.11
20 82.1% East_Sicilian + 17.9% Cyprian @ 3.13


MDLP:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.25
2 European_Early_Farmers 25.60
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.76
4 Near_East 10.62
5 South_Central_Asian 8.60
6 North_African 4.36
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.56


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 4.253932
2 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 5.154070
3 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 5.299913
4 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 5.421230
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 5.782715
6 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.202972
7 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 6.727111
8 French_Jew_ @ 7.063737
9 Cretan_ @ 7.308262
10 Maltese_ @ 7.311482
11 Ashkenazi_ @ 7.907372
12 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 7.925321
13 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.152286
14 Sicilian_Center_ @ 8.622907
15 Italian_South_ @ 8.685142
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 9.095657
17 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 9.705308
18 Greek_Islands_ @ 9.960713
19 Italian_Jew_ @ 10.083681
20 Greek_ @ 10.146211

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cretan_ +50% Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 2.860825

Look very different of my results...I ever think that we are 1 bit near with central italians...
1 East_Med 26.22
2 North_Atlantic 23.31
3 West_Med 21.33
4 Baltic 13.52
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Red_Sea 2.26
7 Amerindian 0.74
8 Oceanian 0.44
9 East_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.89
2 Italian_Abruzzo 5.92
3 Tuscan 6.31
4 West_Sicilian 6.95
5 Central_Greek 7.86
6 East_Sicilian 9
7 South_Italian 10.85
8 North_Italian 11.1
9 Bulgarian 11.23
10 Ashkenazi 11.55
11 Romanian 12.66
12 Italian_Jewish 16.43
13 Serbian 16.53
14 Sephardic_Jewish 16.74
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.08
16 Portuguese 19.38
17 Spanish_Extremadura 19.54
18 Spanish_Andalucia 20.44
19 Spanish_Murcia 20.5
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

1 72.4% South_Italian + 27.6% East_German @ 2.61
2 70.6% South_Italian + 29.4% Austrian @ 2.62
3 58.1% Greek_Thessaly + 41.9% Tuscan @ 2.62
4 66% West_Sicilian + 34% Romanian @ 2.78
5 63.1% West_Sicilian + 36.9% Bulgarian @ 2.82
6 81.5% Central_Greek + 18.5% Southeast_English @ 2.86
7 77.6% Central_Greek + 22.4% West_German @ 2.98
8 75.6% Central_Greek + 24.4% French @ 2.99
9 78.5% Central_Greek + 21.5% South_Dutch @ 3.01
10 69.7% South_Italian + 30.3% Hungarian @ 3.01
11 72.3% West_Sicilian + 27.7% Serbian @ 3.11
12 78.4% South_Italian + 21.6% North_Swedish @ 3.12
13 82.7% Central_Greek + 17.3% Orcadian @ 3.12
14 82.4% Central_Greek + 17.6% Southwest_English @ 3.13
15 82.7% Central_Greek + 17.3% Danish @ 3.26
16 82.8% Central_Greek + 17.2% North_Dutch @ 3.27
17 68.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 31.5% Bulgarian @ 3.28
18 84.2% West_Sicilian + 15.8% South_Polish @ 3.28
19 83.3% Central_Greek + 16.7% West_Scottish @ 3.29
20 80.7% West_Sicilian
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MDLP
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1 Caucasian 38.3
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.84
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.72
4 Near_East 7.41
5 South_Central_Asian 4.13
6 Ancestral_Altaic 1.8
7 North_African 1.55
8 Austronesian 0.9
9 Amerindian 0.65
10 Australoid 0.4
11 Khoisan 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 1.99
2 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 2.46
3 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 3.22
4 Kosovar ( ) 3.31
5 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.7
6 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 3.78
7 Central_Greek ( ) 4.85
8 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 5.76
9 Ashkenazi ( ) 6.2
10 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 6.96
11 Romanian_Jew ( ) 7.42
12 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.45
13 Sicilian_Center ( ) 7.93
14 Bulgarian ( ) 8.36
15 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 8.44
16 Greek ( ) 8.5
17 Greek_Athens ( ) 8.59
18 Macedonian ( ) 8.61
19 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 8.73
20 French_Jew ( ) 8.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 15.3% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 1.3
2 70.5% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 29.5% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 1.37
3 89.8% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 10.2% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 1.43
4 98.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 1.7% Basque_French ( ) @ 1.44
5 98.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 1.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 1.45
6 98% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 1.45
7 97.6% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.4% French_South ( ) @ 1.47
8 97.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.7% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 1.5
9 97.4% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.6% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 1.5
10 97.4% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.6% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 1.5
11 97.1% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.9% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 1.51
12 96.1% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 3.9% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 1.51
13 92% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 8% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 1.52
14 94.6% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 5.4% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 1.52
15 97.2% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.8% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 1.52
16 97% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 3% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) @ 1.52
17 96.8% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 3.2% Spaniard ( ) @ 1.53
18 97.1% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 2.9% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 1.53
19 97% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 3% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) @ 1.53
20 96.4% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 3.6% French ( ) @ 1.54

FilhoV
09-18-2018, 03:22 PM
Interesting

gıulıoımpa
09-18-2018, 03:25 PM
i would not trust result from metropolitan city of Rome , in the best cases you'll find someone whose family came into the city inthe 1700's


if you want real roman try nearby medium cities like Castelli romani and Tivoli

Lugh
09-18-2018, 04:02 PM
Rather misleading thread considering they come from a Neapolitan speaking area in the far south of their region near Campania...
This study included samples from Lazio/Latium and found they were like Tuscans, not at all Southern Italian genetically: https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg2015233

Rgvgjhvv
04-19-2019, 02:57 PM
Hahahahaha

Voskos
04-20-2019, 07:00 PM
I differentiate cretans from south italians by the atlantic score on k15 eurogenes. Its the only reliable way imo.

Kenshiro
11-30-2024, 09:48 AM
Actually no. If you look, they have elevated Caucasian input (West Asian on Eurogenes) which the Italian genetic cline is defined by an increase in Caucasus as you go south and a decrease of North European/Steppe. They do not have the elevated North African, Red Sea, etc. and this is how they differ from Italians even further south.

These are all from Frosinone in Lazio. There may be differences in the parts north of Rome.

Frosinone is Ciociaria, more similar to Caserta than Rome, more similar to Campania than Lazio

Kenshiro
11-30-2024, 09:49 AM
I differentiate cretans from south italians by the atlantic score on k15 eurogenes. Its the only reliable way imo.

I plot with Continental Greeks in K15