MY FTDNA.

[Salem523]

Hi there, please discuss my FTDNA results, before that, I have been classified phenotypically as follows:. what do u think??Also, I noticed that some posters when classified me they exaggerated my SSA admixture to be at least 40-50% ....... any comments?
1- Saharid.
2- Aegyptid-saharid.
3- papua
4- proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry/ paleoveds (Australoids)
5- Mediterranid + Veddoid + Negroid.
6- arabid or gracile med + alpine + some ssa
7- Orientalid with minor ethiopid
8- Arabid and SSA
9- A Mediterranoid (Saharid/Orientalid)+ and a Desertic SSA/Horner type or equivalent
10- Proto-Mediterranean + Negroid.
11- Gracile Med + Saharid + some SSA
12-Negroid + Gracile-Med (Arabid).
13 -Mediterranean-oid with Asian and/or east Africa
14- Natufian Proto-Caucasoid type.
https://i.imgur.com/hA5Q0H3.png
https://i.imgur.com/z4awQXx.png
https://i.imgur.com/5IKThaG.png

[Gangrel]

Do Gedmatch

[Gangrel]

You didn't get any Asia Minor?

[Salem523]

You didn't get any Asia Minor?

NOP.

[Salem523]

Do Gedmatch

I will.

[Rethel]

What is the point in hiring FT, and not even make a basic Y test...? :picard2:

[kingjohn]

nice resuts ;)
you can see how people here have no clue in anthropology
they gave you 35% subsharan and you are only 6% { and even that is mostly eastern africa}:picard1:
best regards
Adam

[Salem523]

What is the point in hiring FT, and not even make a basic Y test...? :picard2:

My next test will be Y -DNA. However, I test my mt-DNA FULL sequence and it is Haplogroup - M30g

[Salem523]

nice resuts ;)
you can see how people here have no clue in anthropology
they gave you 35% subsharan and you are only 6% { and even that is mostly eastern africa}:picard1:
best regards
Adam

Thanks dude..

[Rethel]

However, I test my mt-DNA FULL sequence and it is Haplogroup - M30g

You really have too much money...

[StonyArabia]

Hi there, please discuss my FTDNA results, before that, I have been classified phenotypically as follows:. what do u think??Also, I noticed that some posters when classified me they exaggerated my SSA admixture to be at least 40-50% ....... any comments?
1- Saharid.
2- Aegyptid-saharid.
3- papua
4- proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry/ paleoveds (Australoids)
5- Mediterranid + Veddoid + Negroid.
6- arabid or gracile med + alpine + some ssa
7- Orientalid with minor ethiopid
8- Arabid and SSA
9- A Mediterranoid (Saharid/Orientalid)+ and a Desertic SSA/Horner type or equivalent
10- Proto-Mediterranean + Negroid.
11- Gracile Med + Saharid + some SSA
12-Negroid + Gracile-Med (Arabid).
13 -Mediterranean-oid with Asian and/or east Africa
14- Natufian Proto-Caucasoid type.
https://i.imgur.com/hA5Q0H3.png
https://i.imgur.com/z4awQXx.png
https://i.imgur.com/5IKThaG.png

Hi, because phenotype is pesudo-science. I really never saw pic, but that phenotype is how the original Basal Eurasian in my opinion looked like. The people from the Arabian peninsula are basal Eurasians. Your results seem to be fit with the location. You should do gedmatch and that is more accurate.

[Salem523]

Hi, because phenotype is pesudo-science. I really never saw pic, but that phenotype is how the original Basal Eurasian in my opinion looked like. The people from the Arabian peninsula are basal Eurasians. Your results seem to be fit with the location. You should do gedmatch and that is more accurate.

Interesting points bro. Hopefully, I will come back with the gedmatch results. Also, do Basel Euroasians resemble or look like they have slight /pseudo asiatic traits for example Khoisan like appearance I mean do they have croase / heavy features ...I do not know if my description makes sense ...?. 2nd question does this Basel Euroasian phenotype evolved when the Arabian Pennsulla was still fertile (forest like) and not desert.?

[kingjohn]

and save the anthropology classification to experts
not to amatures just a tip :thumb001:
you see how they blew it in your case and in many cases they have no clue ........ :)

[Salem523]

Bumps.

[Hadouken]

congrats . post gedmatch

[Salem523]

congrats . post gedmatch

Tell me if I am wrong u are user All-in right?. And regarding gedmatch I am trying to work that shit out.

[Hadouken]

Tell me if I am wrong u are user All-in right?. And regarding gedmatch I am trying to work that shit out.

yes I am

it is not hard and doesnt take long . you just need to make a profile there and then upload your raw data

[Salem523]

yes I am

it is not hard and doesnt take long . you just need to make a profile there and then upload your raw data

This what the website says:Kits marked with * have not been tokenized and have not completed batch processing

[Hadouken]

This what the website says:Kits marked with * have not been tokenized and have not completed batch processing

try running calculators already maybe it works . to do that go to "Admixture (heritage)"

if it doesnt work yet wait 20 minutes or so and try again

and post these please :

eurogenes k13

puntdnal k13 global

puntdnal k15

eurasia k9 asi

[Salem523]

try running calculators already maybe it works . to do that go to "Admixture (heritage)"

if it doesnt work yet wait 20 minutes or so and try again

and post these please :

eurogenes k13

puntdnal k13 global

puntdnal k15

eurasia k9 asi

Thanks dude. But I do not see any K's...

[Hadouken]

Thanks dude. But I do not see any K's...

:picard1: lol

go do Admixture (heritage)

pick Eurogenes

then pick Eurogenes K13

then insert your kit number and run it

then when the calculator has run it click on "oracle"

copy what it say from Admixture down to the oracle stuff and post it

[Salem523]

:picard1: lol

go do Admixture (heritage)

pick Eurogenes

then pick Eurogenes K13

then insert your kit number and run it

then when the calculator has run it click on "oracle"

copy what it say from Admixture down to the oracle stuff and post it


Select the project:

Select how you want to process it:

Admixture Proportions (With link to Oracle)
Admixture Proportions by Chromosome
Chromosome Painting
Chromosome Painting - Reduced Size
Paint differences between 2 kits, 1 chromosome
Paint differences between 2 kits, 22 chromosomes, reduced size

[Salem523]

^^ which one to choose from.

[Hadouken]

https://www.gedmatch.com/ap_mix1t_gen.php

whats that ? I cant see shit lol

have you done what I told you ? dude it is easy as fuck xD

CLICK on "Admixture (heritage)"

then CLICK on continue after you have picked eurogenes from the list of avaiable calculator groups

then CLICK on continue after you have picked "eurogenes k13" (you dont need to do that even since it is automatically chosen in the list) and insterted your kit number in the bar

then it will run your results . CLICK on "oracle" . then copy it and post it here

or pm me your kit number if you dont mind (you can trust me I wont share) and I will do it for you

[Salem523]

whats that ? I cant see shit lol

have you done what I told you ? dude it is easy as fuck xD

CLICK on "Admixture (heritage)"

then CLICK on continue after you have picked eurogenes from the list of avaiable calculator groups

then CLICK on continue after you have picked "eurogenes k13" (you dont need to do that even since it is automatically chosen in the list) and insterted your kit number in the bar

then it will run your results . CLICK on "oracle" . then copy it and post it here

or pm me your kit number if you dont mind (you can trust me I wont share) and I will do it for you

I need to wait for 20 mins. Thanks man I will post result once it is ready.

[Tong]

FTDNA is weird. they didnt have a result like my ancestrydna results or 23andme

[Salem523]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.26
2 Red_Sea 23.88
3 South_Asian 16.95
4 West_Asian 7.7
5 Northeast_African 7.48
6 West_Med 4.85
7 Sub-Saharan 1.81
8 East_Asian 1.25
9 North_Atlantic 0.92
10 Oceanian 0.9

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin 16.37
2 Saudi 18.82
3 Egyptian 18.93
4 Palestinian 20.16
5 Jordanian 20.26
6 Syrian 21.81
7 Yemenite_Jewish 21.86
8 Samaritan 24.79
9 Lebanese_Muslim 25.05
10 Libyan_Jewish 25.2
11 Tunisian_Jewish 26.13
12 Lebanese_Christian 26.81
13 Iranian_Jewish 27.4
14 Tunisian 27.52
15 Lebanese_Druze 27.52
16 Algerian 28.07
17 Kurdish_Jewish 28.32
18 Sephardic_Jewish 28.87
19 Moroccan 29.1
20 Cyprian 29.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.3% Saudi + 22.7% Chenchu @ 6.19
2 78.4% Saudi + 21.6% Sakilli @ 6.29
3 78.5% Saudi + 21.5% Chamar @ 6.29
4 74% Yemenite_Jewish + 26% Uttar_Pradesh @ 6.44
5 77.8% Saudi + 22.2% North_Kannadi @ 6.44
6 77.6% Saudi + 22.4% Kol @ 6.49
7 77.1% Saudi + 22.9% Uttar_Pradesh @ 6.53
8 73.5% Yemenite_Jewish + 26.5% Dharkar @ 6.59
9 72% Yemenite_Jewish + 28% Bangladeshi @ 6.6
10 74.6% Yemenite_Jewish + 25.4% Dusadh @ 6.62
11 74.5% Yemenite_Jewish + 25.5% Kol @ 6.62
12 74.4% Yemenite_Jewish + 25.6% Chenchu @ 6.62
13 75.6% Yemenite_Jewish + 24.4% Sakilli @ 6.64
14 73.9% Yemenite_Jewish + 26.1% Kanjar @ 6.64
15 78.3% Saudi + 21.7% Piramalai @ 6.64
16 77.6% Saudi + 22.4% Dusadh @ 6.66
17 74.8% Yemenite_Jewish + 25.2% North_Kannadi @ 6.72
18 74.6% Yemenite_Jewish + 25.4% Kurumba @ 6.72
19 75.4% Yemenite_Jewish + 24.6% Piramalai @ 6.86
20 76.8% Saudi + 23.2% Dharkar @ 6.87

[Salem523]

puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results:

puntDNAL K13 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asia 33.15
2 West_Asia 25.67
3 SW_Europe 16.47
4 South_Asia 13.25
5 East_Africa 4.81
6 West_Africa 3.21
7 NE_Asia 1.43
8 Oceania 0.89
9 SE_Asia 0.69
10 South_Africa 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Yemeni 13.02
2 Palestinian 15.31
3 Egyptian 16.23
4 Jordanian 17.06
5 Egyptian_Copts 17.49
6 Saudi 18.82
7 Syrian 19.71
8 Lebanese_Muslim 20.5
9 Samaritan_Jew 20.84
10 Lebanese_Druze 21.4
11 Lebanese_Christian 21.88
12 Bedouin 23.31
13 Assyrian 25.92
14 Turkish_Kayseri 25.96
15 Tunisian 26.28
16 Turkish 26.54
17 Iranian 26.56
18 Cypriot 27.51
19 Moroccan 27.8
20 Armenian 27.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84% Yemeni + 16% Paniya @ 3.46
2 83.3% Yemeni + 16.7% Pulliyar @ 3.87
3 83.1% Yemeni + 16.9% Mawasi @ 3.98
4 83.2% Yemeni + 16.8% Hakkipikki @ 4.99
5 83.2% Yemeni + 16.8% North_Kannadi @ 5.3
6 82.3% Yemeni + 17.7% Gond @ 5.36
7 82.4% Yemeni + 17.6% Chenchus @ 5.62
8 83.2% Yemeni + 16.8% Sakilli @ 5.63
9 75.6% Saudi + 24.4% Gond @ 6.11
10 82.1% Yemeni + 17.9% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 6.12
11 82.7% Yemeni + 17.3% Piramalai_Kallars @ 6.14
12 82.6% Yemeni + 17.4% UP_Muslim @ 6.23
13 75.5% Saudi + 24.5% Chenchus @ 6.26
14 73.6% Saudi + 26.4% Bengali @ 6.42
15 76.9% Saudi + 23.1% North_Kannadi @ 6.42
16 75.4% Saudi + 24.6% UP_Muslim @ 6.52
17 83% Yemeni + 17% Kurumba @ 6.55
18 74.9% Saudi + 25.1% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 6.65
19 76.8% Saudi + 23.2% Sakilli @ 6.66
20 75.7% Saudi + 24.3% Piramalai_Kallars @ 6.71

[Salem523]

puntDNAL K15 Oracle results:

puntDNAL K15 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 24.71
2 Caucasian 20.36
3 Mediterranean 19.23
4 S_Indian 15.26
5 Horn_Of_Africa 13.81
6 W_African 3.78
7 Oceanian 0.94
8 Omo_River 0.73
9 E_Asian 0.68
10 Amerindian 0.32
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.11
12 Beringian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Yemenese 12.75
2 Jordanian 18.12
3 Syrian 18.13
4 Iraqi_Jew 18.4
5 Bedouin_A 18.42
6 Yemenite_Jew 18.64
7 Egyptian 19.52
8 Libyan 20.16
9 Lebanese 20.93
10 Palestinian 21.03
11 Samaritian 25.83
12 Romani 25.85
13 Somali_Benadiri 26.03
14 Druze 26.5
15 Saudi 30.87
16 Kurdish 31.1
17 Iranian 31.22
18 Cypriot 31.75
19 Assyrian 32.04
20 Turk_Kayseri 32.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.4% Yemenese + 15.6% Malayan @ 4.3
2 85% Yemenese + 15% Paniya @ 4.32
3 83.9% Yemenese + 16.1% North_Kannadi @ 4.56
4 83.4% Yemenese + 16.6% Sakilli @ 4.57
5 82.4% Yemenese + 17.6% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 5.05
6 82.8% Yemenese + 17.2% Uttar_Pradesh_SC @ 5.16
7 81.8% Yemenese + 18.2% Kanjar @ 5.78
8 82.2% Yemenese + 17.8% Tharus @ 5.84
9 81.8% Yemenese + 18.2% Bengali @ 6.15
10 80.9% Yemenese + 19.1% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 6.43
11 80.9% Yemenese + 19.1% UP_Muslim @ 6.55
12 75.9% Yemenite_Jew + 24.1% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 6.77
13 74.3% Yemenite_Jew + 25.7% Bengali @ 6.81
14 75.1% Yemenite_Jew + 24.9% Tharus @ 6.84
15 81.1% Yemenese + 18.9% UP_Brahmin @ 6.91
16 76.5% Yemenite_Jew + 23.5% Uttar_Pradesh_SC @ 7.04
17 74.7% Yemenite_Jew + 25.3% Kanjar @ 7.07
18 72.9% Yemenite_Jew + 27.1% UP_Muslim @ 7.11
19 73% Yemenite_Jew + 27% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 7.16
20 77.8% Yemenite_Jew + 22.2% Sakilli @ 7.46

[Leto]

What is your ethnicity? You are less than 10% SSA (East Africa, West Africa, South Africa). Please post Dodecad K7b.

[Salem523]

What is your ethnicity? You are less than 10% SSA (East Africa, West Africa, South Africa). Please post Dodecad K7b.

Dodecad K7b Oracle results:

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southern 44.15
2 West_Asian 27.79
3 South_Asian 15.52
4 African 9.05
5 Atlantic_Baltic 2.36
6 East_Asian 1.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Yemenese (Behar) 14.09
2 Palestinian (HGDP) 16.26
3 Jordanians (Behar) 16.32
4 Bedouin (HGDP) 16.79
5 Syrians (Behar) 18.11
6 Egyptans (Behar) 18.44
7 Lebanese (Behar) 19.99
8 Druze (HGDP) 21.42
9 Samaritians (Behar) 22.59
10 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 23.48
11 Saudis (Behar) 24.42
12 Cypriots (Behar) 24.76
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.1
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 27.09
15 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 27.15
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 27.49
17 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 27.5
18 Assyrian (Dodecad) 27.76
19 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 27.84
20 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 29.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 18.6% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 3.94
2 81.2% Bedouin (HGDP) + 18.8% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 3.95
3 81.8% Bedouin (HGDP) + 18.2% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 4
4 80.6% Bedouin (HGDP) + 19.4% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 4.04
5 81.3% Bedouin (HGDP) + 18.7% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 4.15
6 81.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 18.6% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.26
7 80.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 19.5% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 4.29
8 82.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 17.5% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 4.35
9 80.2% Bedouin (HGDP) + 19.8% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 4.38
10 80.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 19.5% Kol (Metspalu) @ 4.39
11 79.9% Bedouin (HGDP) + 20.1% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.41
12 80.3% Bedouin (HGDP) + 19.7% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.47
13 80.2% Bedouin (HGDP) + 19.8% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.52
14 82% Bedouin (HGDP) + 18% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 4.52
15 82.7% Bedouin (HGDP) + 17.3% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 4.52
16 79.9% Bedouin (HGDP) + 20.1% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 4.91
17 82.6% Bedouin (HGDP) + 17.4% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 4.96
18 79.3% Bedouin (HGDP) + 20.7% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 5.21
19 79.6% Bedouin (HGDP) + 20.4% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 5.23
20 79.3% Bedouin (HGDP) + 20.7% INS30 (SGVP) @ 5.25

[Hadouken]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.26
2 Red_Sea 23.88
3 South_Asian 16.95
4 West_Asian 7.7
5 Northeast_African 7.48
6 West_Med 4.85
7 Sub-Saharan 1.81
8 East_Asian 1.25
9 North_Atlantic 0.92
10 Oceanian 0.9

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dmix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asia 33.15
2 West_Asia 25.67
3 SW_Europe 16.47
4 South_Asia 13.25
5 East_Africa 4.81
6 West_Africa 3.21
7 NE_Asia 1.43
8 Oceania 0.89
9 SE_Asia 0.69
10 South_Africa 0.43


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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 24.71
2 Caucasian 20.36
3 Mediterranean 19.23
4 S_Indian 15.26
5 Horn_Of_Africa 13.81
6 W_African 3.78
7 Oceanian 0.94
8 Omo_River 0.73
9 E_Asian 0.68
10 Amerindian 0.32
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.11
12 Beringian 0.07





well there you have your answer to your question bro

[Leto]

You seem to be a mix of South Asians and Northeast Africans.

[Salem523]

well there you have your answer to your question bro

I do not understand? Actually, I do not understand any thing from what i have just post.

[Gangrel]

Significant South Asian and SSA input. Gedmatch is more accurate than vague autosomal results you get from a DNA company, it is probably why people classified you the way they did.

[Hadouken]

I do not understand? Actually, I do not understand any thing from what i have just post.

you asked why you have been classified the way you have

well look at those components you score which I made bolded in my quote . it is no surprise

[Salem523]

Significant South Asian and SSA input. Gedmatch is more accurate than vague autosomal results you get from a DNA company, it is probably why people classified you the way they did.

Is it ancient or recent kind of input? and how it contract the Family TREE FINDER results? sorry i am an amateur

[Salem523]

you asked why you have been classified the way you have

well look at those components you score which I made bolded in my quote . it is no surprise

Still i do not get it can u elaborate

[Gangrel]

Is it ancient or recent kind of input? and how it contract the Family TREE FINDER results? sorry i am an amateur

It is not ancient lol. You are around 15-16% South Asian, and around 6-8% Sub Saharan African

What is your ethnicity again

[Salem523]

It is not ancient lol. You are around 15-16% South Asian, and around 6-8% Sub Saharan African

What is your ethnicity again

By ancient i mean around 2000 to 3000 years ago may be less. So, both results from FTDNA and Gedmatch are almost same. right?. I am from Yemen.

[Gangrel]

So, both results from FTDNA and Gedmatch are almost same. right?. I am from Yemen.

I guessed so. Do the Gedrosia K9 ASI test and post the results please

[Salem523]

I guessed so. Do the Gedrosia K9 ASI test and post the results please

So typical Yemenite.

[Gangrel]

So typical Yemenite.

Not actually typical at all, you place pretty distant from the average Yemeni, you probably have recent foreign ancestry.

[Salem523]

Not actually typical at all, you place pretty distant from the average Yemeni, you probably have recent foreign ancestry.

I thought yemenis score less than 10 % SSA?

[Salem523]

Eurasia K9 ASI Oracle results:

Eurasia K9 ASI Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 36.07
2 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 25.85
3 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 16.56
4 W_African 9.04
5 SE_Asian 4.63
6 Ancestral_South_Indian 4.61
7 Siberian_E_Asian 1.49
8 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 1.21
9 WHG 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 10.93
2 Jordanian 11.1
3 Yemen 12.03
4 BedouinA 13.33
5 Lebanese 13.83
6 Druze 16.32
7 Iraqi_Jew 16.45
8 Georgian_Jew 18.36
9 Iranian_Jew 18.58
10 Armenian 21.31
11 Cypriot 21.32
12 Azeri 21.68
13 Turkish 21.8
14 Iranian 21.88
15 Kurd_N 22.26
16 Yemenite_Jew 22.53
17 Georgian 26.77
18 Abkhasian 27.62
19 Kurd_C 28.17
20 Kumyk 28.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.8% BedouinA + 20.2% Bengali @ 3.97
2 81.8% Yemen + 18.2% Bengali @ 4.49
3 75.8% Yemen + 24.2% Tajik_Afghan @ 4.65
4 79.9% Yemen + 20.1% Burusho @ 4.66
5 74.8% Yemen + 25.2% Uzbek_Afghan @ 4.91
6 80.7% Yemen + 19.3% Punjabi @ 5.05
7 79.7% Yemen + 20.3% Pathan @ 5.21
8 77.7% Yemen + 22.3% Pashtun_Afghan @ 5.23
9 66.3% Yemen + 33.7% Iranian @ 5.27
10 78.2% BedouinA + 21.8% Burusho @ 5.31
11 80.5% Yemen + 19.5% Kurd_SE @ 5.56
12 79.1% BedouinA + 20.9% Punjabi @ 5.69
13 66.4% Yemen + 33.6% Azeri @ 5.71
14 81.4% Yemen + 18.6% Kalash @ 5.82
15 79.2% Yemen + 20.8% Balochi @ 5.85
16 78.2% Yemen + 21.8% Hazara_Afghan @ 5.9
17 80.2% Yemen + 19.8% Brahui @ 5.93
18 78.7% BedouinA + 21.3% Kurd_SE @ 5.94
19 82.9% BedouinA + 17.1% Paniyas @ 6
20 67.4% Yemen + 32.6% Kurd_N @ 6.16

[Babak]

You have elevated south asian bro.

[Gangrel]

I thought yemenis score less than 10 % SSA?

Nope, higher. You have significantly lower SSA than the average Yemeni and significantly higher South Asian.

[Salem523]

Nope, higher. You have significantly lower SSA than the average Yemeni and significantly higher South Asian.

Yea it make sense.

[Hadouken]

You have elevated south asian bro.

it is rather the combination/total score of south asian + african

and red sea is not exactly a nordic component either

[Babak]

it is rather the combination/total score of south asian + african

and red sea is not exactly a nordic component either

yea

[Gangrel]

Yea it make sense.

Did you have a great grandparent who was south asian?

[Salem523]

Did you have a great grandparent who was south asian?

I am not sure, but most likely from my mother side?

[Salem523]

But the question now, how to know the South Asian component? I mean is it Caucasoid or proto-caucosoid, veddiod Australoid or other. The african compnent i think it is horner hybrid like. The rest is red sea or middle east component Caucasoid/ proto-Mediterranean like. Any idea?

[Hadouken]

But the question now, how to know the South Asian component? I mean is it Caucasoid or proto-caucosoid, veddiod Australoid or other. The african compnent i think it is horner hybrid like. The rest is red sea or middle east component Caucasoid/ proto-Mediterranean like. Any idea?

on calculators like eurogenes k13 the south asian component is about/around 60-65% caucasoid rest australoid

can you run Ancient Eurasia K6 calculator ? the Ancestral South Eurasian component there is based on australian aborigines , andamanese , and papuans . so australoid

[Babak]

Probably recent baluch ancestry lol, but who knows

[Gangrel]

didnt you say you had south asian mtdna?

[Salem523]

on calculators like eurogenes k13 the south asian component is about/around 60-65% caucasoid rest australoid

can you run Ancient Eurasia K6 calculator ? the Ancestral South Eurasian component there is based on australian aborigines , andamanese , and papuans . so australoid

Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:

gedrosia K6 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.34
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 23.88
3 Sub_Saharan 10.77
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 8.25
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 6.94
6 East_Asian 3.83

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 11.44
2 Yemeni 11.64
3 Jordanian 11.87
4 BedouinA 12.31
5 Iranian_Shirazi 12.91
6 Palestinian 13.4
7 Lebanese 13.51
8 Iran_N_WC1 13.56
9 Iranian 13.88
10 Iran_recent 14.14
11 Kurd_C 14.26
12 Egyptian 14.56
13 Azeri 14.65
14 Iranian_Mazandarani 15.39
15 Saudi 16.22
16 Jew_iraqi 16.6
17 Druze 16.65
18 Jew_Iranian 16.69
19 Turkish 16.78
20 Kurd_F 16.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Egyptian + 32.7% Sindhi @ 3.75
2 76.6% BedouinA + 23.4% Punjabi_PJL @ 4.12
3 76.3% BedouinA + 23.7% GujaratiD @ 4.15
4 75.4% BedouinA + 24.6% GujaratiC @ 4.26
5 70.7% Egyptian + 29.3% GujaratiB @ 4.35
6 68.7% Egyptian + 31.3% Punjabi @ 4.36
7 78.1% BedouinA + 21.9% Bengali @ 4.45
8 71.8% Egyptian + 28.2% GujaratiC @ 4.48
9 57.8% Libyan + 42.2% Brahui @ 4.56
10 58.3% Libyan + 41.7% Balochi @ 4.56
11 68.7% Egyptian + 31.3% GujaratiA @ 4.63
12 73% Yemeni + 27% Sindhi @ 4.7
13 69.9% Yemeni + 30.1% Kurd_SE @ 4.74
14 63.9% Egyptian + 36.1% Balochi @ 4.74
15 74.7% BedouinA + 25.3% GujaratiB @ 4.8
16 73% Egyptian + 27% GujaratiD @ 4.8
17 71.4% Yemeni + 28.6% Pathan @ 4.81
18 63.5% Egyptian + 36.5% Brahui @ 4.81
19 54.5% Yemeni + 45.5% Iran_N_WC1 @ 4.82
20 64.3% Egyptian + 35.7% Kurd_SE @ 4.86

[Salem523]

didnt you say you had south asian mtdna?

M30g but i do not know if it founds only in south asia.

[Hadouken]

Ancient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:

gedrosia K6 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 46.34
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 23.88
3 Sub_Saharan 10.77
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 8.25
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 6.94
6 East_Asian 3.83



cool

[Gangrel]

'Haplogroup M30 - mainly in India, found in Middle East and North Africa' - https://www.geni.com/projects/M-mtDNA/22424

M30: found in South Asia - http://www.africatoaotearoa.otago.ac.nz/haplogroups/9-mtdna/14-mtdna-m
M30a
M30a1
M30a2
M30b
M30c
M30c1
M30c1a
M30c1a1
M30d
M30d1
M30d2
M30e
M30f
M30g

your south asian is maternal it seems

[Salem523]

cool

Is it good results?

[Hadouken]

Is it good results?

define good

all results are good . it is you

[Gangrel]

Is it good results?

not enough ANE you must be purged :laugh:

[Mingle]

You really have too much money...

Have you had a DNA test yet?

[Hamlet]

If a calculator/company claims to pick up Sephardic DNA, they're guessing

[Salem523]

...

[Mingle]

I have done Family tree finder and maternal DNA.

I was talking to Rethel... He preaches R1a supremacy a lot but doesn't have any Y-DNA listed.

[Salem523]

If a calculator/company claims to pick up Sephardic DNA, they're guessing

I think the Sephardic jewesh results can be Yemenite in origin.

[Hamlet]

I think the Sephardic jewesh results can be Yemenite in origin.

Well they shouldn't!

[kingjohn]

some lebanese christians score 18% sefhardic
in my origins 2.0 i saw it in anthrogenica :)
could be just shared levantine markers between you and the sefhardic refernce been used .

[Rethel]

Have you had a DNA test yet?

Yes. I am probably the earliest tested person here...
Only Robocop did the test in the same year, but a bit later.
Then, tests were almost not known.

[Rethel]

I was talking to Rethel... He preaches R1a supremacy

Not true.


a lot but doesn't have any Y-DNA listed.

Look among my threads Rethel's DNA thread.

[Mingle]

Not true.

So, R1a nationalism would be a better word then? :p

[Rethel]

So, R1a nationalism would be a better word then? :p

Also not true.
I never said anything similar to this.

[Mingle]

Also not true.
I never said anything similar to this.

Misunderstanding then. You just talk about it a lot.

[Rethel]

Misunderstanding then. You just talk about it a lot.

Yes, becasue I am interested in the subject. And not about r1a, but about
Indoeuropeans. And the matter is, that IEs are not R1a, but R1, or even R*.
R would mean nothing if would be not a proof for genealogical relation of the
certain people. But it is only a tool of proving, nothing more.

[Leto]

on calculators like eurogenes k13 the south asian component is about/around 60-65% caucasoid rest australoid

No way it is 60% Caucasoid. Tamils are less 70% SA on K13, you think they are only 25-30% Australoid? They are dark like a bastard.

[StonyArabia]

I thought yemenis score less than 10 % SSA?

If you are from Hardamout that region has significant admixture. Hardmout people are different from other Yemenis, like the Yemeni highlanders who don't differ much from Yemenite Jews or ethnic tribal Saudis. You seem to have recent South Asian ancestry, which explains why your distant is further from Yemenite and Bedouins. Bedouins don't have much South Asian ancestry, but there is minor SSA and it's mostly East African.

[StonyArabia]

Eurasia K9 ASI Oracle results:

Eurasia K9 ASI Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 36.07
2 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 25.85
3 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 16.56
4 W_African 9.04
5 SE_Asian 4.63
6 Ancestral_South_Indian 4.61
7 Siberian_E_Asian 1.49
8 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 1.21
9 WHG 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Syrian 10.93
2 Jordanian 11.1
3 Yemen 12.03
4 BedouinA 13.33
5 Lebanese 13.83
6 Druze 16.32
7 Iraqi_Jew 16.45
8 Georgian_Jew 18.36
9 Iranian_Jew 18.58
10 Armenian 21.31
11 Cypriot 21.32
12 Azeri 21.68
13 Turkish 21.8
14 Iranian 21.88
15 Kurd_N 22.26
16 Yemenite_Jew 22.53
17 Georgian 26.77
18 Abkhasian 27.62
19 Kurd_C 28.17
20 Kumyk 28.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.8% BedouinA + 20.2% Bengali @ 3.97
2 81.8% Yemen + 18.2% Bengali @ 4.49
3 75.8% Yemen + 24.2% Tajik_Afghan @ 4.65
4 79.9% Yemen + 20.1% Burusho @ 4.66
5 74.8% Yemen + 25.2% Uzbek_Afghan @ 4.91
6 80.7% Yemen + 19.3% Punjabi @ 5.05
7 79.7% Yemen + 20.3% Pathan @ 5.21
8 77.7% Yemen + 22.3% Pashtun_Afghan @ 5.23
9 66.3% Yemen + 33.7% Iranian @ 5.27
10 78.2% BedouinA + 21.8% Burusho @ 5.31
11 80.5% Yemen + 19.5% Kurd_SE @ 5.56
12 79.1% BedouinA + 20.9% Punjabi @ 5.69
13 66.4% Yemen + 33.6% Azeri @ 5.71
14 81.4% Yemen + 18.6% Kalash @ 5.82
15 79.2% Yemen + 20.8% Balochi @ 5.85
16 78.2% Yemen + 21.8% Hazara_Afghan @ 5.9
17 80.2% Yemen + 19.8% Brahui @ 5.93
18 78.7% BedouinA + 21.3% Kurd_SE @ 5.94
19 82.9% BedouinA + 17.1% Paniyas @ 6
20 67.4% Yemen + 32.6% Kurd_N @ 6.16

Balochi ancestry most likely. I am half Caucasian half Bedouin. Here is my result from the same calculator



Eurasia K9 ASI 4-Ancestors Oracle


Eurasia K9 ASI Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 30.61
2 SW_Asian 28.85
3 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 20.89
4 WHG 7.34
5 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 5.66
6 W_African 3.53
7 Ancestral_South_Indian 2.24


Finished reading population data. 118 populations found.
9 components mode.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Georgian_Jew @ 8.960530
2 Syrian @ 9.070325
3 Lebanese @ 9.924998
4 Druze @ 10.685847
5 Armenian @ 11.048294
6 Iranian_Jew @ 11.200527
7 Jordanian @ 11.356475
8 Turkish @ 11.530958
9 Iraqi_Jew @ 11.652448
10 Azeri @ 11.867035
11 Kurd_N @ 12.704754
12 Iranian @ 13.807052
13 Cypriot @ 13.874011
14 Georgian @ 16.765167
15 Kumyk @ 17.305681
16 Adygei @ 17.899677
17 Abkhasian @ 18.012344
18 Azeri_Dagestan @ 18.088436
19 Chechen @ 19.370132
20 Kurd_C @ 20.987450

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri_Dagestan +50% BedouinA @ 2.879975


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri_Dagestan +25% BedouinA +25% Jordanian @ 2.203940


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Tajik_Pomiri + Yemen @ 1.677771
2 BedouinA + Georgian_Jew + Lebanese + Tajik_Pomiri @ 1.795220
3 BedouinA + Iranian_Jew + Lebanese + Tajik_Pomiri @ 1.797392
4 Armenian + BedouinA + Jordanian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 1.827870
5 Cypriot + Iranian_Jew + Tajik_Pomiri + Yemen @ 1.852500
6 BedouinA + Iranian + Lebanese + Lezgin @ 1.925754
7 BedouinA + Chechen + Iranian + Lebanese @ 1.928164
8 Iraqi_Jew + Jordanian + Jordanian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 1.945928
9 Druze + Jordanian + Jordanian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 1.956602
10 BedouinA + Chechen + Iranian + Jordanian @ 1.961823
11 Cypriot + Georgian_Jew + Tajik_Pomiri + Yemen @ 1.990438
12 Armenian + BedouinA + Lebanese + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.010438
13 BedouinA + Iranian + Jordanian + Lezgin @ 2.024366
14 BedouinA + Chechen + Iranian + Syrian @ 2.033143
15 BedouinA + Georgian_Jew + Jordanian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.087810
16 BedouinA + Druze + Druze + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.089675
17 BedouinA + Druze + Georgian_Jew + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.097459
18 BedouinA + Iranian_Jew + Jordanian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.122838
19 Cypriot + Druze + Tajik_Pomiri + Yemen @ 2.154497
20 BedouinA + Jordanian + Kurd_N + Lezgin @ 2.160143

Done.

[Hadouken]

No way it is 60% Caucasoid. Tamils are less 70% SA on K13, you think they are only 25-30% Australoid? They are dark like a bastard.

yes I calculated it using a tamil kit number xD around 60-65%

[Leto]

yes I calculated it using a tamil kit number xD around 60-65%
Bengalis are around 60% South Asian on K13. And they are Eastern Indians. I still have my doubts.

[Hadouken]

Bengalis are around 60% South Asian on K13. And they are Eastern Indians. I still have my doubts.

the tamil kit nr. I have scores 79.81 south asian on k13 , 24.35 ASI on K9 , and 33.23 ASE on K6

[Iloko]

Nice results. I wonder if the Sephardic is actual Sephardic.

[Leto]

the tamil kit nr. I have scores 79.81 south asian on k13 , 24.35 ASI on K9 , and 33.23 ASE on K6
Interesting. An Afghan Tajik:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 40.34
2 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 11.59
3 SW_Asian 9.16
4 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 9.07
5 SE_Asian 7.91
6 Siberian_E_Asian 7.53
7 Ancestral_South_Indian 7.39
8 WHG 7.02

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 35.64
2 Natufian 32.67
3 East_Asian 15.01
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 10.57
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 6.11

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.06
2 South_Asian 25.82
3 Baltic 10.51
4 East_Med 8.02
5 Siberian 7.45
6 North_Atlantic 6.19
7 East_Asian 3.5
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 West_Med 1.26
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.34

[Hadouken]

Interesting. An Afghan Tajik:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 40.34
2 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 11.59
3 SW_Asian 9.16
4 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 9.07
5 SE_Asian 7.91
6 Siberian_E_Asian 7.53
7 Ancestral_South_Indian 7.39
8 WHG 7.02

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 35.64
2 Natufian 32.67
3 East_Asian 15.01
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 10.57
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 6.11

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.06
2 South_Asian 25.82
3 Baltic 10.51
4 East_Med 8.02
5 Siberian 7.45
6 North_Atlantic 6.19
7 East_Asian 3.5
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 West_Med 1.26
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.34

obviously very different to the tamil :D and also pretty different to north indians even

[Salem523]

If you are from Hardamout that region has significant admixture. Hardmout people are different from other Yemenis, like the Yemeni highlanders who don't differ much from Yemenite Jews or ethnic tribal Saudis. You seem to have recent South Asian ancestry, which explains why your distant is further from Yemenite and Bedouins. Bedouins don't have much South Asian ancestry, but there is minor SSA and it's mostly East African.

Tribes of Hadrumute /Al Mahra u know empty quarter people l. They look different from highlanders Yemenite. My SSA % is 6 and that is less than what average North African or Yemeni would score. Hadrumute non-tribes or were tribes they are mostly multigenerational mixes of different ethnicities.

[Salem523]

Nice results. I wonder if the Sephardic is actual Sephardic.

I think we can assume that it is a middle eastern component.

[StonyArabia]

Tribes of Hadrumute /Al Mahra u know empty quarter people l. They look different from highlanders Yemenite. My SSA % is 6 and that is less than what average North African or Yemeni would score. Hadrumute non-tribes or were tribes they are mostly multigenerational mixes of different ethnicities.

Highlander Yemenites are pure South Arabians and they are close to Ethnic tribal Saudis. Yes they do look different. Your SSA is in the normal range and is indeed lower than North Africans, but your South Asian is high for people from the Arabian peninsula. Hadrumute was the region that had witnessed a lot of different people living there and mixing indeed. I believe some of those who are tribes would keep only the knoweldge of their paternal ancestry but not that of the maternal side. Let's not forget the South Asian influence in Yemen and Oman is quite old, and but in your case it seems you have recent South Asian ancestry and it's most likely from Baluchistan, as their lots of Baluch in Southern Arabia. Al-Mahra kinda look SouthAsian/Veddiods but I have seen that look Arabian to. They speak I believe South Arabian language.

Yemen is pretty diverse in landscape, my maternal tribe claim to originate there but now live in Iraq/Syria.

[Salem523]

Highlander Yemenites are pure South Arabians and they are close to Ethnic tribal Saudis. Yes they do look different. Your SSA is in the normal range and is indeed lower than North Africans, but your South Asian is high for people from the Arabian peninsula. Hadrumute was the region that had witnessed a lot of different people living there and mixing indeed. I believe some of those who are tribes would keep only the knoweldge of their paternal ancestry but not that of the maternal side. Let's not forget the South Asian influence in Yemen and Oman is quite old, and but in your case it seems you have recent South Asian ancestry and it's most likely from Baluchistan, as their lots of Baluch in Southern Arabia. Al-Mahra kinda look SouthAsian/Veddiods but I have seen that look Arabian to. They speak I believe South Arabian language.

Yemen is pretty diverse in landscape, my maternal tribe claim to originate there but now live in Iraq/Syria.

Well said man. What does it mean having around 45% nutifian admixture I post the results earlier.

[StonyArabia]

Well said man. What does it mean having around 45% nutifian admixture I post the results earlier.

Nutifian is basically the original Middle Eastern/Basal Eurasian

[Salem523]

Nutifian is basically the original Middle Eastern/Basal Eurasian
Do highlander Yemenite/ Arabian represent the natufian type?

[StonyArabia]

Do highlander Yemenite/ Arabian represent the natufian type?

Yes! There is Arabid and proto-Arabid the difference is slight the latter is darker and has rounder head, and often full lips compared to the first. Both of these represent the Natufian or the original Basal Eurasians.

[Salem523]

Yes! There is Arabid and proto-Arabid the difference is slight the latter is darker and has rounder head, and often full lips compared to the first. Both of these represent the Natufian or the original Basal Eurasians.

Based on the above how would you classify the man below70160

[StonyArabia]

Based on the above how would you classify the man below70160

South Arabid it seems.

[Salem523]

South Arabid it seems.

Does he look same as Yemenite highlanders or ethnic Saud or beduion? Or different? Where can he pass ?

[StonyArabia]

Does he look same as Yemenite highlanders? Or different? Where can he pass ?

He looks slightly different. He can only pass in Yemen, he might in the highlands but atypical.

[Salem523]

He looks slightly different. He can only pass in Yemen, he might in the highlands but atypical.

People/tribes from hadramute the valley not the desert. Most look like they came from fertiale the creasant region, Jordanian beduion, sina beduion and he is my father when he was young now 70 and look like this old men below70161

[Hadouken]

Yes! There is Arabid and proto-Arabid the difference is slight the latter is darker and has rounder head, and often full lips compared to the first. Both of these represent the Natufian or the original Basal Eurasians.

if you try to "explain" OPs look wit basal eurasian and think that fhe south asian combined with the african has no effect then you are wrong I think. and if I remember right people like Georgians score high in basal also ......

[StonyArabia]

People/tribes from hadramute the valley not the desert. Most look like they came from fertiale the creasant region, Jordanian beduion, sina beduion and he is my father when he was young now 70 and look like this old men below70161

That's because they have Yemeni origins. Many Bedouin tribes btw boast about their Yemeni origins.


if you try to "explain" OPs look wit basal eurasian and think that fhe south asian combined with the african has no effect then you are wrong I think. and if I remember right people like Georgians score high in basal also ......

Basal Eurasian is basically Arabid.

[Hadouken]

That's because they have Yemeni origins. Many Bedouin tribes btw boast about their Yemeni origins.



Basal Eurasian is basically Arabid.

lol why do georgians etc score so much of it then

and arabid is a phenotype . the only arabian proper component is red sea or maybe sw-asian on some calcs

edit: it is less than I though in georgians . they score around 17-22% or so on the mdlp k11 calc . a saudi I run through scored 54%

my point still stands . OPs look is influenced by the south asian + african

[Salem523]

if you try to "explain" OPs look wit basal eurasian and think that fhe south asian combined with the african has no effect then you are wrong I think. and if I remember right people like Georgians score high in basal also ......
AFAIK nutifian people, when researchers found their skeleton in Israeil. It seems that their facial features looks mixed similar to negroid with asiatic with may be proto caucasoid or little from every thing. And from the calculator I used it says Natufian: This was an Epipaleolithic culture that existed from 12,500 to 9,500 BC in the area of Israel. They were derived about 50% from an original Out-of-Africa population, referred to as Basal Eurasians. If you are a European and show Natufian admixture, this does not imply that Natufians interacted with your ancestors. All it means is that Natufian like admixture was mediated to you via intermediaries, such as the early European Farmers from the Near East.

[Salem523]

However, phenotypically speaking I think I am more middle eastern Yemen shifted around 70+% and 20% south Asian less than 10 % Not proper SSA . And I think mother is mixed Arabian + south Asian. So, she is her self not proper south Asian either. And most south Asians lack the middle eastern components. And here also, I saw pure Arabid almost gets the SSA admixture

[Hadouken]

AFAIK nutifian people, when researchers found their skeleton in Israeil. It seems that their facial features looks mixed similar to negroid with asiatic with may be proto caucasoid or little from every thing. And from the calculator I used it says Natufian: This was an Epipaleolithic culture that existed from 12,500 to 9,500 BC in the area of Israel. They were derived about 50% from an original Out-of-Africa population, referred to as Basal Eurasians. If you are a European and show Natufian admixture, this does not imply that Natufians interacted with your ancestors. All it means is that Natufian like admixture was mediated to you via intermediaries, such as the early European Farmers from the Near East.

1. the natufian on K6 calculator is overexeggerated for everybody because the calculator has not many caucasoid components and swallows CHG , Mediterranean etc . in it . europeans score a lot of natufian there ....you dont want to tell me that europeans are natufian do you . I think near east neolithic k13 might be good to determine "real" natufian

2. it is not the natufian that give you your look which makes people see some ssa or veddoid etc. . it is the fact that you score high in south asian and african combined . I mean come on combined you are over 20% non caucasoid so it is no surprise

am I really in a need to debate again because I tell the obvious truth again xD

[Salem523]

1. the natufian on K6 calculator is overexeggerated for everybody because the calculator has not many caucasoid components and swallows CHG , Mediterranean etc . in it . europeans score a lot of natufian there ....you dont want to tell me that europeans are natufian do you . I think near east neolithic k13 might be good to determine "real" natufian

2. it is not the natufian that give you your look which makes people see some ssa or veddoid etc. . it is the fact that you score high in south asian and african combined . I mean come on combined you are over 20% non caucasoid so it is no surprise

am I really in a need to debate again because I tell the obvious truth again xD
However, phenotypically speaking I think I am more middle eastern Yemen shifted around 70+% and 20% south Asian less than 10 % Not proper SSA . And I think mother is mixed Arabian + south Asian. So, she is her self not proper south Asian either. And most south Asians lack the middle eastern components. And here also, I saw pure Arabid almost gets the SSA admixture any way. But do not u think I fit within the unmixed Arabians.

[Hadouken]

However, phenotypically speaking I think I am more middle eastern Yemen shifted around 70+% and 20% south Asian less than 10 % Not proper SSA . And I think mother is mixed Arabian + south Asian. So, she is her self not proper south Asian either. And most south Asians lack the middle eastern components. And here also, I saw pure Arabid almost gets the SSA admixture

yes you seem predominantly yemeni like

[Mortimer]

Where does your Southcentral Asian come from? What are you?

[Salem523]

Where does your Southcentral Asian come from? What are you?

My maternal haplogroup is M30g AFAIK. However, u can find remenants in Yemen that look like Australoid or vedda at least not in their pure form looking people I think it has something to do with ancient belt theory OOA or back migration from South Asia /India or recent mix. And my mother line decended from them may be. And regarding your second question I am modern human. Ha ha ha.

[Mortimer]

My maternal haplogroup is M30g AFAIK. However, u can find remenants in Yemen that look like Australoid or vedda at least not in their pure form looking people I think it has something to do with ancient belt theory OOA or back migration from South Asia /India or recent mix. And my mother line decended from them may be. And regarding your second question I am modern human. Ha ha ha.

so you are from yemen? i mean what is your ethnicity, is that a secret? you have high southasian for someone who would be pure yemeni arab

[Salem523]

so you are from yemen? i mean what is your ethnicity, is that a secret? you have high southasian for someone who would be pure yemeni arab

Look at this flower man and the 2 teenagers and tell me does he look Yemeni or south Asian of course phenotypically speakinghttps://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5226/5633919738_244573296c_b.jpg.http://i.imgur.com/WJVzQt5.jpg

[Salem523]

yes you seem predominantly yemeni like

yes, most of my classifications were not of the south Asian phenotype which ironically I score higher than SSA. THE 30% admixture from SA (veddiod, it believe to be ancient mix of Caucasoid + proto-Australoid) and SSA (east African/hybrid type, Caucasoid + degree negroid) are not proper non-Caucasoid components because each component represents a mixture so it is like a mix within a mix. The only factor that in my opinion distinguish some yemenis from SA is the Middle Eastern/red sea component. Other point not quite related to the subjec just my observation nothing more nothing less. Here in this fourm I have seen some members classifying North African/some admixed Southern European in this case SSA % (above 10% let say ) without "+ Negroid " just south med, berid etc. And I Know that phenotype not = genotype. But in my case it seems the opposite I score less SSA % and people sees it. That is amazing. How things appears to be.

[Salem523]

Bump.

[StonyArabia]

Look at this flower man and the 2 teenagers and tell me does he look Yemeni or south Asian of course phenotypically speakinghttps://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5226/5633919738_244573296c_b.jpg.http://i.imgur.com/WJVzQt5.jpg

The first guy can pass in South Asia, but phenotype don't equal genotype. As for teenagers, they seem mostly Arabid, well the latter might have very slight Iranid influence both can fit in Southern Iraq with no problem. However there is some South Asian admixture in Yemen and Oman due to Baloch communities settling there. However there should be more tests done on the regional differences in Yemen, the coastal areas of have lots of Ethiopian and Somalis or who got Yemenized, but as you go into the interior of the Desert areas the people there are close to Yemenite and ethnic Saudis, and then you go more into the mountain areas it's the same, however there some interesting groups and people, that should be tested and there is even some proto-Arabids elements, which most likely how the Basal Eurasians looked like.

[Salem523]

The first guy can pass in South Asia, but phenotype don't equal genotype. As for teenagers, they seem mostly Arabid, well the latter might have very slight Iranid influence both can fit in Southern Iraq with no problem. However there is some South Asian admixture in Yemen and Oman due to Baloch communities settling there. However there should be more tests done on the regional differences in Yemen, the coastal areas of have lots of Ethiopian and Somalis or who got Yemenized, but as you go into the interior of the Desert areas the people there are close to Yemenite and ethnic Saudis, and then you go more into the mountain areas it's the same, however there some interesting groups and people, that should be tested and there is even some proto-Arabids elements, which most likely how the Basal Eurasians looked like.

Do you see any proto-Arabids elements in the below fellas :
https://i.imgur.com/EZnbE80.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YxeUFyj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wwGr4LG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/U44uyNq.jpg http://arabic-media.com/media/images/2013/people/omar-burkan-alghala-03.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/ee/20/f5/ee20f5dc3bface52034feea09dbb27e1.jpg

[Salem523]

bumps.

[Salem523]

bumps.

[Salem523]

Bumps. Some body try to classify the above pics please...