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Hudayar
11-29-2017, 12:08 AM
• The maps below are based on the results of 125 ethnic Turkish samples, each of whom is native to his/her province.
• The 2 samples from Iğdır and Kars are members of the Azerbaijani Turkish speaking community of eastern Turkey.
• East_Eurasian = Siberian + East Asian + Southeast_Asian
• Results are from Dodecad K12b
• Sample size is 125
• Source is from https://turkishdna.blogspot.com.tr/ its database comes from individual gedmatch results of Anatolian Turks
Caucasian
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IcXudJ6nb8Y/Whr2jFdgUyI/AAAAAAAAAJw/_JOTEr9olXAbhVngDpwdQGUYr25Tt2AKgCLcBGAs/s1600/Caucasus%2B1.png
East Eurasian
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Hsx6aOInUE/Whr2rRxvPjI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/pmpiCOGIKRUfzWmuNXFFQop6zG6Kk6V1wCLcBGAs/s1600/East%2BEurasian%2B1.png
Atlantic Med
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--5RPYKnKJ2Y/Whr2cHp0cbI/AAAAAAAAAJs/_rYVwxUY7BoF2A2MRE2J1ZdfUQhian_ZQCLcBGAs/s1600/Atlantic_med%2B1.png
Gedrosia
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B4SHaLN5nu4/Whr2yiDY7EI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/GcVBMcyY1dodmDVv3TWtujGpcbelFXdLACLcBGAs/s1600/Gedrosia%2B1.png
North European
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1UAc-RTnwCQ/Whr3IPzJiAI/AAAAAAAAAKI/7cdEVZenBc8D1bcGIU9NvIUuh2iGEPTVwCLcBGAs/s1600/North%2BEuropean%2B1.png
Southwest Asian
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pWjRnt3g5o4/Whr28OGgQ8I/AAAAAAAAAKE/7GIvQ4jhoKA7fZ9aVvbPq6yACFnDnCMJgCLcBGAs/s1600/SW_Asian%2B1.png
Samples
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3SZXuAUchEo/Whr3cN4JnFI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/1ahM5bq3CwEqW4m6HnBA88AL-7cexAifACLcBGAs/s1600/mJD0R8.png
Hudayar
11-29-2017, 12:18 AM
Aydın Turks for some reasons were not included in this map but i have their (3) results. They're identical to Balıkesir and Muğla Turks.
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.81
2 West_Asian 26.69
3 North_Atlantic 11.78
4 West_Med 9.92
5 Siberian 8.04
6 East_Asian 5.21
7 Red_Sea 4.53
8 Baltic 3.52
9 South_Asian 2.41
10 Oceanian 1.07
11 Amerindian 0.04
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 27.76
2 East_Med 25.93
3 Siberian 11.61
4 West_Med 10.53
5 North_Atlantic 7.55
6 East_Asian 6.13
7 Baltic 5.09
8 Red_Sea 2.25
9 South_Asian 2.19
10 Amerindian 0.84
11 Northeast_African 0.08
12 Oceanian 0.06
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.57
2 East_Med 23.66
3 West_Med 11.87
4 Siberian 9.91
5 North_Atlantic 7.62
6 Baltic 6.24
7 East_Asian 3.55
8 South_Asian 2.59
9 Red_Sea 1.93
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Northeast_African 0.53
Hudayar
11-29-2017, 08:13 AM
Bump
Thracian
11-29-2017, 12:25 PM
What is East Euroasia? Siberia+East Asian?
Pahli
11-29-2017, 12:30 PM
What is East Euroasia? Siberia+East Asian?
Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian I think
Hadouken
11-29-2017, 12:44 PM
He allready wrote it in the description/ OP xD
Thracian
11-29-2017, 12:56 PM
Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian I think
Thank you. I just saw it.
He allready wrote it in the description/ OP xD
I didn't read it. My bad. I just look at the maps. LOL. Thank you.
lameduck
11-29-2017, 12:58 PM
nice effort
Hudayar
11-29-2017, 06:59 PM
Here's Y-DNA chart of 91 of them
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?228649-Y-DNA-chart-of-91-Turks-(NEW)&p=4808389#post4808389
Pennywise
11-30-2017, 01:50 AM
Thanks for sharing them. :)
Hudayar
11-30-2017, 01:50 PM
Thanks for sharing them. :)
No problem
Hudayar
12-01-2017, 03:13 PM
This thread got less replies than the haplogroup thread
what a pity
Good study! Also my hometown (Tokat):eek2::icon_eek::eek2: has 6%-10% East Eurasian?! WHAT?! I'm happy with that.:) (Because I was expecting low as %3-%5)
Also thanks for sharing the truth :)
https://turkishdna.blogspot.com.tr/2017/12/anadolu-olceginde-dil-ve-genetik.html
Hudayar, can you translate it to English and publish it on theapricity? Thank you
Also I hope it will stop the lies that so called Turks are Turkified Armenians, Arabs, Greeks, Kurds etc.
Lucas
12-27-2017, 01:55 PM
[QUOTE=Hudayar;4808636]• The maps below are based on the results of 125 ethnic Turkish samples, each of whom is native to his/her province.
• The 2 samples from Iğdır and Kars are members of the Azerbaijani Turkish speaking community of eastern Turkey.
• East_Eurasian = Siberian + East Asian + Southeast_Asian
• Results are from Dodecad K12b
• Sample size is 125
• Source is from https://turkishdna.blogspot.com.tr/ its database comes from individual gedmatch results of Anatolian Turks
East Eurasian
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Hsx6aOInUE/Whr2rRxvPjI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/pmpiCOGIKRUfzWmuNXFFQop6zG6Kk6V1wCLcBGAs/s1600/East%2BEurasian%2B1.png
In my K47 calculator Turkish regional averages have the same pattern (East Eurasian = Turkic-Altaic, Mongolian, Siberian, East-Asian, Amuro-Manchurian)
https://s14.postimg.org/3pwb9d7f5/Bez-nazwy-2.jpg
East Eurasian
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In my K47 calculator Turkish regional averages have the same pattern (East Eurasian = Turkic-Altaic, Mongolian, Siberian, East-Asian, Amuro-Manchurian)
Yes, it may be true. But all people is misleading that only East Eurasian is Turkic. There's no Turkic people who have 100% East Eurasian expect Yakuts. Even Kazakhs and Kyrgyz people have 60%-80% Mongoloid(on average 72%-78%). Also I think that modern Turkish people are mixture of Central Asian Oghuz people and Anatolia Natives when we see at autosomal dna and we take the Turkmens as sample. Turkmens are around %16-%35 Mongoloid( it can reach to 40%-50% in some provinces of Turkmenistan as Merv and Afghanistani Turkmens).
Pennywise
12-27-2017, 03:30 PM
In my K47 calculator Turkish regional averages have the same pattern (East Eurasian = Turkic-Altaic, Mongolian, Siberian, East-Asian, Amuro-Manchurian)
https://s14.postimg.org/3pwb9d7f5/Bez-nazwy-2.jpg
Looks like you used Hodoglugil samples, which are not really represantatives for their regions. Many of the samples were outlier. I wonder how did you extract Balıkesir samples btw.
Gangrel
12-27-2017, 03:37 PM
Yes, it may be true. But all people is misleading that only East Eurasian is Turkic. There's no Turkic people who have 100% East Eurasian expect Yakuts. Even Kazakhs and Kyrgyz people have 60%-80% Mongoloid(on average 72%-78%). Also I think that modern Turkish people are mixture of Central Asian Oghuz people and Anatolia Natives when we see at autosomal dna and we take the Turkmens as sample. Turkmens are around %16-%35 Mongoloid( it can reach to 40%-50% in some provinces of Turkmenistan as Merv and Afghanistani Turkmens).
What has this got to do with what he is saying anlamadim
Lucas
12-27-2017, 04:05 PM
Looks like you used Hodoglugil samples, which are not really represantatives for their regions. Many of the samples were outlier. I wonder how did you extract Balıkesir samples btw.
I used only those from Lazaridis2016 which were already without outliers (there were in 2014 study).
Balikesir were in the same file were other regions. Any problem with extraction.
Bornoz
12-27-2017, 04:10 PM
Emeğine sağlık hocam.
What has this got to do with what he is saying anlamadim
Diyor ki; Benim K47 hesabımda Türk bölgesel ortalamaları aynı örneğe sahip. Ben de ona tamam, doğru olabilir ama insanlar bazı yerlerde yanılıyorlar dedim
Pennywise
12-27-2017, 04:18 PM
I used only those from Lazaridis2016 which were already without outliers (there were in 2014 study).
Balikesir were in the same file were other regions. Any problem with extraction.
I see, thanks. Could you pass the link of the file?
Hudayar
12-28-2017, 05:34 AM
Good study! Also my hometown (Tokat):eek2::icon_eek::eek2: has 6%-10% East Eurasian?! WHAT?! I'm happy with that.:) (Because I was expecting low as %3-%5)
Lol i'm also from Tokat.
Also Eastern Anatolian East Eurasian dna depends on the person. I have seen a guy from Gümüşhane scoring 17%. 8-13% mongoloid dna should be average for a Turk. However that also depends on what part of Turkey the Turk is from, like Western and Southern Turkish average is around 10-15% whereas Central ones are 8-13% and Northeastern average (East of Giresun) is around 0-2%. Giresun-Ordu average seems to be around 12-17%
Hudayar
12-28-2017, 05:38 AM
[QUOTE=Hudayar;4808636]• The maps below are based on the results of 125 ethnic Turkish samples, each of whom is native to his/her province.
• The 2 samples from Iğdır and Kars are members of the Azerbaijani Turkish speaking community of eastern Turkey.
• East_Eurasian = Siberian + East Asian + Southeast_Asian
• Results are from Dodecad K12b
• Sample size is 125
• Source is from https://turkishdna.blogspot.com.tr/ its database comes from individual gedmatch results of Anatolian Turks
East Eurasian
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Hsx6aOInUE/Whr2rRxvPjI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/pmpiCOGIKRUfzWmuNXFFQop6zG6Kk6V1wCLcBGAs/s1600/East%2BEurasian%2B1.png
In my K47 calculator Turkish regional averages have the same pattern (East Eurasian = Turkic-Altaic, Mongolian, Siberian, East-Asian, Amuro-Manchurian)
https://s14.postimg.org/3pwb9d7f5/Bez-nazwy-2.jpg
I calculated Balıkesir and Aydın samples
Balıkesir is around 10.7% and Aydın is around 11.7% but as far as i remember, Balıkesir samples were more mongoloid on average than Aydın samples.
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