View Full Version : Where can this Greek singer pass?
KingOf
12-01-2017, 06:56 PM
He is Nikiforos Vithoulkas
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Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 06:57 PM
Everywhere in Greece i think
Other than that in Iberia.
Possibly in Romania,Albania and Turkey also
KingOf
12-01-2017, 07:00 PM
Interesting.
I will post such threads from time to time to see how foreigners view some Greeks, i am very amateur about human taxonomy,classification and genetics
Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 07:03 PM
Interesting.
I will post such threads from time to time to see how foreigners view some Greeks, i am very amateur about human taxonomy,classification and genetics
Ok but don't be fooled ,there are alot of amateurs here who unfortunately are not as humble and honest as you and
pretend to be profesionals. :)
Guessing is always somehow intuitive.
I think the guy looks primarily Greek but i tried to include other regions where he could also fit
Sikeliot
12-01-2017, 07:07 PM
West Europe -- Iberia mostly. He looks somewhat like Ben Affleck who is of NW European descent though.
Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 07:10 PM
West Europe -- Iberia mostly.
+1
Agreed
I also thought of Iberia as his best fit outside Greece.
KingOf
12-01-2017, 07:12 PM
West Europe -- Iberia mostly. He looks somewhat like Ben Affleck who is of NW European descent though.
Hmm i know the actor. He can't pass as Greek imo
DarknessWin
12-01-2017, 07:32 PM
He have the most common Greek look and actually he cant pass as Spanish
because he is Mesocephalic and more Robust type
http://cdn.thebest.gr/media/images/frontNews/oonpneoqut52a5a5fd9b178.JPG
Pontid+CM
DarknessWin
12-01-2017, 07:32 PM
Hmm i know the actor. He can't pass as Greek imo
Ben Affleck can pass as Greek, at least here in the north Greece
Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 07:33 PM
He have the most common Greek look and actually he cant pass as Spanish
because he is Mesocephalic and more Robust type
Lol
Iloko
12-01-2017, 07:33 PM
Albanian or Turkish
DarknessWin
12-01-2017, 07:37 PM
Albanian or Turkish
He look Dinaric (albanian) or Anatolid-Armenoid(Turkish) to you???
He is Pontid and out of Greece he pass better in Bulgaria-Romania and Italy-Spain
DarknessWin
12-01-2017, 07:39 PM
Lol
Iberians are the most Doli population in Europe,
Nikiforos have the balkan Med phenotype (Pontid)
Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 07:44 PM
Iberians are the most Doli population in Europe,
Nikiforos have the balkan Med phenotype (Pontid)
I think you have a wrong perception of Iberians.
However you call it with or without Balkan there are alot of Iberians who resemble this guy's look.
But don't worry i said already that to me he looks Greek before anything else.
Bornoz
12-01-2017, 07:45 PM
He look Dinaric (albanian) or Anatolid-Armenoid(Turkish) to you???
He is Pontid and out of Greece he pass better in Bulgaria-Romania and Italy-Spain
He is too white to pass as a Turk. DEFINETLY can't pass.
People would probably think that he is from Scandinavia.
Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 07:49 PM
He is too white to pass as a Turk. DEFINETLY can't pass.
People would probably think that he is from Scandinavia.
Common i have seen Turks that are pale as fuck.
Ok maybe you mean by white something else like facial features...
But as a matter of fact for example Circassians are often very light and Laz people from the Black Sea alsohttp://www.turkishclass.com/static/images/tc_pictures/upload/94/hemsin4_jpg_1.jpg
Bornoz
12-01-2017, 07:52 PM
^ Actually, I thought that you can understand the sarcasm :(
Tauromachos
12-01-2017, 07:53 PM
^ Actually, I thought that you can understand the sarcasm :(
Ok sorry :)
I was little bit autistic here
Bornoz
12-01-2017, 07:55 PM
Ok sorry :)
I was little bit autistic here
Np dear
KingOf
12-01-2017, 08:07 PM
Ben Affleck can pass as Greek, at least here in the north Greece
I don't know maybe if u pick a good photo angle...but to me in most photos his overall features strike me as foreign
I think he looks what he is...
Maybe if u saw him in person u would change your mind
DarknessWin
12-01-2017, 08:44 PM
He is too white to pass as a Turk. DEFINETLY can't pass.
People would probably think that he is from Scandinavia.
I speak about Phenotype and not skin color,
skin color mean nothing
MysteriousWays
12-01-2017, 08:47 PM
Greek is best fit. Barring that, I think Bulgaria and Romania are much better fits than Spain. He likely can pass as pretty atypical in Spain though, but by no means, do I think he looks typical.
Bornoz
12-02-2017, 08:48 AM
I speak about Phenotype and not skin color,
skin color mean nothing
Whatever dude. But if you really think that he can't pass in Turkey, you must be extremely ignorrant or delusional. There is no other way.
Greek is best fit. Barring that, I think Bulgaria and Romania are much better fits than Spain. He likely can pass as pretty atypical in Spain though, but by no means, do I think he looks typical.
+1
He look Dinaric (albanian) or Anatolid-Armenoid(Turkish) to you???
He is Pontid and out of Greece he pass better in Bulgaria-Romania and Italy-Spain
Yes , we all know that you can't be Albanian and non Dinaric.
Laberia
12-02-2017, 10:35 AM
Yes , we all know that you can't be Albanian and non Dinaric.
At least with his question he is correct.
Zroota
12-02-2017, 12:57 PM
He is really handsome. :p
He can pass in a lot of places in Southern and Eastern Europe. Outside of the continent, he can also pass as a light-skinned Lebanese, Turkish, Kurdish or Assyrian.
Freeroostah
12-02-2017, 01:28 PM
All over South Europe and some Balkan countries (Bulgaria, Romania)
Good singer..!
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 01:29 PM
Whatever dude. But if you really think that he can't pass in Turkey, you must be extremely ignorrant or delusional. There is no other way.
So what?? He can pass almost in whole south europe ,balkans and west turkey but he is Pontid so his
phenotype is more common in South East Balkans and especially Greece.
I know that Pontids exist in Turkey (mostly in west parts) too but they are very few and mostly mixed with other types
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 01:33 PM
Yes , we all know that you can't be Albanian and non Dinaric.
Pontids exist in whole Balkans, even in Poland but they are more common in Greece and Bulgaria.
If you see him in the streets of Tirana you will immediately would guess that he is Greek i am sure
Sikeliot
12-02-2017, 01:48 PM
He passes in Turkey because some Turks look European.
Bornoz
12-02-2017, 01:53 PM
He passes in Turkey because some Turks look European.
If this is a European looking according to you, it is much more than ''some''
Danaan
12-02-2017, 01:56 PM
The surname is probably from Zante.
He looks broadly Southern European but not stereotypically Greek.
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 01:57 PM
If this is a European looking according to you, it is much more than ''some''
Its not about skin color , and yes this Phenotype its pure Med .
Turks were anatolian and steppe population so these types there have european med roots.
Sikeliot is right
Danaan
12-02-2017, 01:58 PM
Also if that is Pontid, not all his features look Pontid to me, especially his eyes.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-races-of-the-world/images/9/9c/Nxuhvs-1-.png/revision/latest?cb=20170818231038
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 01:59 PM
The surname is probably from Zante.
He looks broadly Southern European but not stereotypically Greek.
Is this a joke?? I look like him and almost half of my friends look like him too.
What is stereotypical Greek look according to you, tell me a name to see ??
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 02:00 PM
The surname is probably from Zante.
He looks broadly Southern European but not stereotypically Greek.
He is Pontid + CM
Danaan
12-02-2017, 02:06 PM
Αυτό που ονομάζεις 'CM' δίνει ένα ψευδοασιατικό (έστω) vibe. Υπάρχει βέβαια σε όλη την Ευρώπη. Σε Γάλλους το βλέπω συχνά π.χ. Αλλά ψάξε να το βρεις σε αρχαία ελληνικά αγάλματα και δεν θα το βρεις.
Marmara
12-02-2017, 02:12 PM
He passes in Turkey because some Turks look European.
But the singer doesn't look "European". Nobody in Turkey would say anthing back if he said he was from Iran or Syria.
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 03:15 PM
Αυτό που ονομάζεις 'CM' δίνει ένα ψευδοασιατικό (έστω) vibe. Υπάρχει βέβαια σε όλη την Ευρώπη. Σε Γάλλους το βλέπω συχνά π.χ. Αλλά ψάξε να το βρεις σε αρχαία ελληνικά αγάλματα και δεν θα το βρεις.
Καμια σχεση ισα ισα που το CM στοιχειο υπαρχει στα περισσοτερα ελληνικα αγαλματα και ειναι καθαρα ευρωπαικο
DarknessWin
12-02-2017, 03:26 PM
But the singer doesn't look "European". Nobody in Turkey would say anthing back if he said he was from Iran or Syria.
Ok classify him then, he look Iranid to you???
Also tell me why people from Turkey vote me down every time when i say
that the majority of phenotypes in your country are Anatolids and Armenoids.
Why you try to connect yourself with Med phenotypes and try to hide the truth.
Every anthoropology out there give for turkish Anatolid-Armenoid and Asiatic Alpine ,Turanic phenotypes
The few med types like you in the modern Turkey are Janissaries
KingOf
12-02-2017, 09:03 PM
The surname is probably from Zante.
He looks broadly Southern European but not stereotypically Greek.
He is from Preveza
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