R1a-L260

[Slavic Italian]

Living DNA recently assigned this particular subclade to me. Looks like Slavic paternal origin for me.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Western Slav though, not Eastern.

[Slavic Italian]

Western Slav though, not Eastern.

A geneologist told me that Eastern Slavs have as high as volume as Western but are undertested. But yes I have some Czech and Polish.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

A geneologist told me that Eastern Slavs have as high as volume as Western but are undertested.

Could be. I read this on FTDNA:

"R-L260 is one of two major branches of the Central European Branch of R1a Haplogroup known as R1a-M458 (PF6155 and Subclades). It's Peaks are found among Western Slavic populations of: Poland, Sorbia (Lausitz) East Germany, Czechia and Slovakia, Croatia and Ukraine. together with it's R-M458 sibling, CTS11962 they are the Least expanded European Branches of R1a. "

[Slavic Italian]

Could be. I read this on FTDNA:

"R-L260 is one of two major branches of the Central European Branch of R1a Haplogroup known as R1a-M458 (PF6155 and Subclades). It's Peaks are found among Western Slavic populations of: Poland, Sorbia (Lausitz) East Germany, Czechia and Slovakia, Croatia and Ukraine. together with it's R-M458 sibling, CTS11962 they are the Least expanded European Branches of R1a. "

I get matches from those populations. But I also get a lot of matches from Russia and Belarus as well. Have no problem calling these people my people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3COi982ko8

[Slavic Italian]

Western Slav though, not Eastern.

See this subclade is present in Central Western Russia as well as Ukraine.

http://pottsdna.com/r1a-potts-r-l260/

[lyakh]

YP254 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP254/) is very common downstream of L260 in Poland. I suppose that much more than 10% of all Polish Y-DNA can be YP254+. YP254 appears to be significantly rarer in Czech Republic than in Poland.

[Karol Klačansky]

I tested with living dna and belong to the same haplogroup. It is indeed more common among western slavs than eastern.

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[Peterski]

http://www.gwozdz.org/polishclades.html#PType

https://www.geni.com/projects/R1a-L260-R-L260-Y-DNA/25339

[Slavic Italian]

This has some good info and nice charts.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Eupedia says that it's clearly West Slavic marker.

[Slavic Italian]

Eupedia says that it's clearly West Slavic marker.

I don't think anyone here is denying that. I get a lot of Polish matches and here recently Czech as seemingly more of them are testing. I also have matches from Russia. Quite a few so there is more to it than just your Y chromosome. I was told by a geneologist that more East Euros(Russians, Ukrainians) were testing positive for L260.

[Slavic Italian]

NA

[Slavic Italian]

You look at this map and this subclade goes as far east as Volgograd. I believe it is more than just a western subclade.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1LoaYNBAnvJAO3q-vQ7vpVhdbZbc&ll=50.4105124496452%2C32.44901541082413&z=5

[Dick]

Which countries does your coverage map show. It should look like this


https://i.imgur.com/iClBJQz.jpg

[Slavic Italian]

Which countries does your coverage map show. It should look like this


https://i.imgur.com/iClBJQz.jpg

I can't get it to upload but most countries in East Europe and quite a few in the Mid East. A large list. Much larger than yours with much higher percentages.
Kyrgyzstan 63%
Belarus 59%
Poland 57%
Hungary 57%
Altai 55%
Ukraine 50%
Sindh 49%
Punjabi 46%
Pashtun 45%
Lithuania 45%
Slovenia 39%
Czech Republic 38%
Russia 38%
Estonia 35%
Afghanistan 35%
Norway 31%
Croatia 26%
Iceland 24%
Uyghur 22%
Pakistan 20%
Serbia 19%
Selkup 19%
Romania 17%
Uzbekistan 16%
Greece 16%
Macedonia 14%
Tamil Nadu 13%
Schleswig-Holstein 13%
Bosnia and Herzegovina 12%
Georgia 11%
Nenetsia-Yamalia 11%
Iran 10%
India 10%
Syria 10%
North Italy 10%
Lebanon 10%
Albania 9%
Oman 9%
Bedouin 9%
Denmark 8%
Tajikistan 8%
Azerbaijan 7%
United Arab Emirates 7%
Scotland 7%
Turkmenistan 7%
Tibet 7%
Iraq 7%
South Italy 6%
Saami 5%
England 4%
Kazakhstan 4%
Netherlands 4%
Armenia 4%
Nepal 4%
Israel 3%
Turkey 3%
Buryat 3%
Evenk 3%
Wales 2%
Mongolia 2%
Manchuria 2%
Yakut 2%
Finland 2%
Ireland 1%
South Korea 1%
Andhra Pradesh 1%
Portugal 1%
Spain 1%
Sardinia 1%
Palestine 1%
North Korea 1%

[Dick]

I can't get it to upload but most countries in East Europe and quite a few in the Mid East. A large list. Much larger than yours with much higher percentages.
Kyrgyzstan 63%
Belarus 59%
Poland 57%
Hungary 57%
Altai 55%
Ukraine 50%
Sindh 49%
Punjabi 46%
Pashtun 45%
Lithuania 45%
Slovenia 39%
Czech Republic 38%
Russia 38%
Estonia 35%
Afghanistan 35%
Norway 31%
Croatia 26%
Iceland 24%
Uyghur 22%
Pakistan 20%
Serbia 19%
Selkup 19%
Romania 17%
Uzbekistan 16%
Greece 16%
Macedonia 14%
Tamil Nadu 13%
Schleswig-Holstein 13%
Bosnia and Herzegovina 12%
Georgia 11%
Nenetsia-Yamalia 11%
Iran 10%
India 10%
Syria 10%
North Italy 10%
Lebanon 10%
Albania 9%
Oman 9%
Bedouin 9%
Denmark 8%
Tajikistan 8%
Azerbaijan 7%
United Arab Emirates 7%
Scotland 7%
Turkmenistan 7%
Tibet 7%
Iraq 7%
South Italy 6%
Saami 5%
England 4%
Kazakhstan 4%
Netherlands 4%
Armenia 4%
Nepal 4%
Israel 3%
Turkey 3%
Buryat 3%
Evenk 3%
Wales 2%
Mongolia 2%
Manchuria 2%
Yakut 2%
Finland 2%
Ireland 1%
South Korea 1%
Andhra Pradesh 1%
Portugal 1%
Spain 1%
Sardinia 1%
Palestine 1%
North Korea 1%

Whoa lol. Mine is rare anyway

[Slavic Italian]

Whoa lol. Mine is rare anyway

I see what yours is now. Yes it is.

[Slavic Italian]

Whoa lol. Mine is rare anyway

Here is something for you to think about. The Soviet Union occupied almost all of those regions at the end of the second world war in eastern Europe. I believe they were trying to preserve Slavic culture from being westernized.