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tahir0010
12-08-2017, 02:28 AM
Turkish Footballer Serdar Aziz. I have not found much of his family history except that he is from Bursa. Do you think that he looks more Turk or more european also what do you think is his phenotype?
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tahir0010
12-08-2017, 02:50 AM
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Columella
12-08-2017, 08:32 AM
local Nordic probably a subtle overlap between NOrdic and Iranian. I Guess metrically would easily fit Uk-Eire.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/serdar-aziz-of-galatasaray-sk-during-the-turkish-spor-toto-super-lig-picture-id865290752?s=612x612
In this cherry picked photo he could easily pass in Sweden
http://imgs.star.com.tr/imgsdisk/2016/06/22/220620161656350446164_3.jpg

ariel
12-08-2017, 08:37 AM
He look like chechen

tahir0010
12-08-2017, 11:09 AM
local Nordic probably a subtle overlap between NOrdic and Iranian. I Guess metrically would easily fit Uk-Eire.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/serdar-aziz-of-galatasaray-sk-during-the-turkish-spor-toto-super-lig-picture-id865290752?s=612x612
In this cherry picked photo he could easily pass in Sweden
http://imgs.star.com.tr/imgsdisk/2016/06/22/220620161656350446164_3.jpg

But what would be chance of a nord making it to turkey? I'm guessing his family has been there a very long time as his name is turkish and last name aziz is an Arabic word but also turkish. Is it possibly that he could be a Montenegro who came during time of ottoman or does he not fit normal phenotype for someone from Montenegro

Knight Slayer
12-08-2017, 04:03 PM
He is most likely a descendant of a Nordic Janissary pulled from Serbia, no doubt. Similar to Muhammed Suicmez....

Our friend Serdar is a Tronder.

Odin
12-08-2017, 08:35 PM
Trønder.

tahir0010
12-09-2017, 11:09 AM
He is most likely a descendant of a Nordic Janissary pulled from Serbia, no doubt. Similar to Muhammed Suicmez....

Our friend Serdar is a Tronder.

So you think his family migrated from nord to serbia and during time of Ottomans was brought to Turkey? Would the Nord phenotype still be that strong though? I did not think that serbians were usually this white.

Knight Slayer
12-12-2017, 01:52 AM
So you think his family migrated from nord to serbia and during time of Ottomans was brought to Turkey? Would the Nord phenotype still be that strong though? I did not think that serbians were usually this white.

Nordid was much more widespread in the past. It's possible he is descended from Austria, Germany, even Poland. It's impossible to know.

tahir0010
12-13-2017, 03:25 AM
Nordid was much more widespread in the past. It's possible he is descended from Austria, Germany, even Poland. It's impossible to know.

His father does look more eastern european. If you look at the top picture the three guys the older guy on the right is his father. His father does look like a serbian or bosnian. He however looks much more nordid.

Benim
04-04-2020, 08:24 PM
Tronder, or original steppe satem-speaking nordid, I bet he has the R1a-z93 haplogroup, or r1b eastern branch.

He would fit in the coon's exotic nordid scheme.

Hektor12
05-22-2020, 04:54 PM
https://kralspor.ensonhaber.com/resimler/kok/2019/03/10/kralspor4320.jpg
https://kralspor.ensonhaber.com/resimler/kok/2019/03/10/kralspor7978.jpg
https://kralspor.ensonhaber.com/resimler/kok/2019/03/10/kralspor7855.jpg
https://www.teksas.org/haber/resimler/serdaraziz_milliforma.jpg
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https://www.tablesleague.com/players/133868_serdar_aziz_1.jpg

KipceakHakan23cm
09-02-2021, 12:19 PM
Tronder. He can pass in all of europe where the steppe influence is strong. So yes aryan just like what aherne said to that english man whoch norb referenced him as germanik englis type arean lmao.
He also can pass in balkans as croatian or bosnian but he can also be iranian nordoid. But will be exotik.