is MyHeritage bullshit? Help me.

[Senpai]

I transferred my raw DNA from FTDNA to myheritage last night and my results are:

English: 49.4%
Irish, Scottish, Welsh: 36.2%
Finnish: 5.5%
East Euro: 3.3%
Middle East: 3.3%
North African: 2.3%

My question is this.. Is the Middle East and North African on myheritage accurate? If so then that would give me roughly 5.6% unaccounted for Middle East/North African genetics that I have absolutely no idea where from.

Some of you may or may not remember me posting a classify thread for my grandmother. She is oddly dark, and looks like no one else in my family. Her grandparents came from Baden, Germany.. I've never seen a picture of them, but all their offspring and grandkids were dark, not pinkish in ski tone at all, some had curly-ish hair and they all had either very dark brown or black hair. If anyone could provide some kind of insight as to how common it was to immigrate to Germany from the Middle East in the early to mid 1800's, that would be excellent.

Here is my grandmother:

http://i.imgur.com/5LQrsytl.jpg (https://imgur.com/5LQrsyt)

http://i.imgur.com/oPqAgbel.jpg (https://imgur.com/oPqAgbe)

http://i.imgur.com/QFAWoQ2l.jpg (https://imgur.com/QFAWoQ2)

Here she is in modern day, 2nd picture is with her sons in-laws who are Mexican for comparision

http://i.imgur.com/7jEd41Al.jpg (https://imgur.com/7jEd41A)

http://i.imgur.com/PbqgYDCl.jpg (https://imgur.com/PbqgYDC)

Obviously she was tan, it was the 80's, Ya'know... But her normal complexion is pretty swarthy.

[RN97]

I wouldn't think so. My known ancestry is 3/8th Norwegian, 1/8th German and 4/8th Romanian. My results are:

Europe
97,6%
North and West Europe
79,4%
North and West European
65,2%
Scandinavian
14,2%
Ashkenazi Jewish
7,9%
Ashkenazi Jewish
7,9%
East Europe
6,8%
East European
6,8%
South Europe
3,5%
Italian
3,5%
America
1,3%
Central America
1,3%
Central American
1,3%
Africa
1,1%
North Africa
1,1%
North African
1,1%

[Senpai]

I wouldn't think so. My known ancestry is 3/8th Norwegian, 1/8th German and 4/8th Romanian. My results are:

About 30% of my heritage is Colonial Dutch, so I'm assuming if it IS accurate, it's interpreting that as North Sea genetics instead of Western Europe.

[RN97]

About 30% of my heritage is Colonial Dutch, so I'm assuming if it IS accurate, it's interpreting that as North Sea genetics instead of Western Europe.

Okay, but even if as the trolls proclaim that "hurr durr RN97 is at least 200% j000", lets ignore all the jewish, n. african etc. There is no damn way I'm 79,4% north and west European... Where did the Romanian go???

[Senpai]

Okay, but even if as the trolls proclaim that "hurr durr RN97 is at least 200% j000", lets ignore all the jewish, n. african etc. There is no damn way I'm 79,4% north and west European... Where did the Romanian go???

hahahaha

[Senpai]

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[Maintenance]

Okay, but even if as the trolls proclaim that "hurr durr RN97 is at least 200% j000", lets ignore all the jewish, n. african etc. There is no damn way I'm 79,4% north and west European... Where did the Romanian go???

But where did the rumanian go?

[Senpai]

Can anyone give a thug some insight?
one more bump

[spik]

She’s probably just a swarthy German.

[Senpai]

She’s probably just a swarthy German.

respectfully, zero percent chance. Her father is insanely dark.

[spik]

respectfully, zero percent chance. Her father is insanely dark.

Buy her a 23andme test. MyHeritage is just a newcomer in beta mode.

[Slavic Italian]

Buy her a 23andme test. MyHeritage is just a newcomer in beta mode.

Living DNA did good for me. No matter who you test with do DNA tribes SNP test afterwards for 50.00. It's worth it and provides all your ancestry. The major services really go back only about 200-300 years if you look at their timeline.

[Senpai]

Shit, let me get rich real quick and I'll get it all. I just hate all the waiting to find out.

[Slavic Italian]

Shit, let me get rich real quick and I'll get it all. I just hate all the waiting to find out.

DNA tribes SNP takes less than a day. It's a nice report they email you. I think you would like it.

[Senpai]

DNA tribes SNP takes less than a day. It's a nice report they email you. I think you would like it.

I'll give that a go when I have my grandmother tested.

[Karol Klačansky]

respectfully, zero percent chance. Her father is insanely dark.Bro I live in austria and see germans every day. Ur grandma doesnt look that dark at all, shed fit right in in germany. Im darker than her and have 0 middle eastern influence and pretty low med influence.

[Karol Klačansky]

I'll give that a go when I have my grandmother tested.Dna tribes is garbage just like my heritage. Take 23andme if u want a descent basic dna test or ftdna.

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[Senpai]

Bro I live in austria and see germans every day. Ur grandma doesnt look that dark at all, shed fit right in in germany. Im darker than her and have 0 middle eastern influence and pretty low med influence.

Her father was very dark and always talked about his non European heritage. He just didn't know where from. And his parents came to US from Germany. They weren't German. I'm 100% sure at this point.

[Sikeliot]

Her father was very dark and always talked about his non European heritage. He just didn't know where from. And his parents came to US from Germany. They weren't German. I'm 100% sure at this point.

From the look of the result, most likely he was of Jewish descent, or at least part. Maybe Sephardi even.

Your grandmother looks like she could be southern Italian, Jewish, or even a Cypriot.

[Senpai]

From the look of the result, most likely he was of Jewish descent, or at least part. Maybe Sephardi even.

Your grandmother looks like she could be southern Italian, Jewish, or even a Cypriot.

Their last name was Buchmann. Which I read is an Ashkenazi name. But I have zero Ashkenazi on my FTDNA and any sites I uploaded the data to.

[Sikeliot]

Their last name was Buchmann. Which I read is an Ashkenazi name. But I have zero Ashkenazi on my FTDNA and any sites I uploaded the data to.

Maybe it wasn't Ashkenazi but Sephardi or Mizrahi. What do you score on FTDNA? Do you ever score Italian or Levantine? Ashkenazim are roughly half and half. If you score anything South Italian, it could also be Jewish DNA that is being misread as the next closest thing.

Your grandmother even can pass as an actual Levantine.

[Senpai]

Maybe it wasn't Ashkenazi but Sephardi or Mizrahi. What do you score on FTDNA? Do you ever score Italian or Levantine? Ashkenazim are roughly half and half. If you score anything South Italian, it could also be Jewish DNA that is being misread as the next closest thing.

Your grandmother even can pass as an actual Levantine.


British Isles 63%
Scandinavia 22%
Southeast Europe 13%
Northeast Asia 1%
West Africa 1%

Yeah, I've always thought she looked not fully European. She's always thought the same thing, just has no clue about her ancestry. And unfortunately I can't trace past 1880 for her grandparents.

I'm gonna try to find a few pictures of her siblings!

[spik]

Their last name was Buchmann. Which I read is an Ashkenazi name. But I have zero Ashkenazi on my FTDNA and any sites I uploaded the data to.

Did he have European facial features?

[Sikeliot]

British Isles 63%
Scandinavia 22%
Southeast Europe 13%
Northeast Asia 1%
West Africa 1%

Yeah, I've always thought she looked not fully European. She's always thought the same thing, just has no clue about her ancestry. And unfortunately I can't trace past 1880 for her grandparents.

I'm gonna try to find a few pictures of her siblings!


Why do you score West African? And Southeast Europe? Those are the only things in there that could be tied to why your grandmother is dark.

[Senpai]

Did he have European facial features?

I have no clue. Never seen a picture. Just on word of mouth.. And I've just always heard he bragged about his roots and was dark.

[Senpai]

Why do you score West African? And Southeast Europe? Those are the only things in there that could be tied to why your grandmother is dark.

I'm guessing the West African comes from my mothers side. They're all from the South. Southeast Europe on the other hand, I have no idea. I'm guessing from her based on looks. Everyone else is Nordic looking save a few Frenchies, even the English ancestry.

[Sikeliot]

I'm guessing the West African comes from my mothers side. They're all from the South. Southeast Europe on the other hand, I have no idea. I'm guessing from her based on looks. Everyone else is Nordic looking save a few Frenchies, even the English ancestry.

I score a similar amount of West African too because my great grandmother was partially Cape Verdean. But my grandmother, her daughter, is lighter than your grandmother.

My guess is your grandmother was partially Jewish, and it is being misread on calculators as if it were Italian.

[Senpai]

I score a similar amount of West African too because my great grandmother was partially Cape Verdean. But my grandmother, her daughter, is lighter than your grandmother.

My guess is your grandmother was partially Jewish, and it is being misread on calculators as if it were Italian.
Here's her sister.. Gonna try to find a few of her brothers

20's
http://i.imgur.com/wkUPvfu.jpg (https://imgur.com/wkUPvfu)

40's
http://i.imgur.com/yFFuQPH.jpg (https://imgur.com/yFFuQPH)

[Senpai]

Also, interesting! Yeah, I'm still not sure where the W. African comes from. Hope to find out one day!

[Senpai]

I score a similar amount of West African too because my great grandmother was partially Cape Verdean. But my grandmother, her daughter, is lighter than your grandmother.

My guess is your grandmother was partially Jewish, and it is being misread on calculators as if it were Italian.

I'm assuming this is her nephew (don't know him personally) I think he looks Jewish, but then again I have no idea what the average Jewish person looks like minus the stereotypical features that I feel he has.

http://i.imgur.com/Mn2E7IVl.jpg (https://imgur.com/Mn2E7IV)

[Slavic Italian]

Dna tribes is garbage just like my heritage. Take 23andme if u want a descent basic dna test or ftdna.

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23&me is terrible. They fail to process most peoples' entire dna and they go back maybe five generations. Have you taken the tribes SNP test?

[Senpai]

23&me is terrible. They fail to process most peoples' entire dna and they go back maybe five generations. Have you taken the tribes SNP test?

Literally 50% say 23 is AMAZING, the other 50% say it's horrid, and should be tossed in the trash.

[Slavic Italian]

Literally 50% say 23 is AMAZING, the other 50% say it's horrid, and should be tossed in the trash.

They failed to process approx. 40% of my DNA. I have taken four tests. I believe it's the worst for the exception of finding ancestors. You can learn a lot by your matches alone. I liked Living DNA and the SNP test because it goes back the
furthest.

[Senpai]

They failed to process approx. 40% of my DNA. I have taken four tests. I believe it's the worst for the exception of finding ancestors. You can learn a lot by your matches alone. I liked Living DNA and the SNP test because it goes back the
furthest.

My matches haven't shown me shit yet honestly. No one is close enough, and I have a hard time finding anyone on my fathers side.

[Slavic Italian]

My matches haven't shown me shit yet honestly. No one is close enough, and I have a hard time finding anyone on my fathers side.

You are going to be mixed. Where are your matches from? That says a lot. Does not matter if they are 5th generation. I've found 3 2nd cousins. A couple I wish I never found and the rest 4th generation. Enough to let me know where my ancestors came from.

[CabOOM]

It could be Roma (Gypsy) ancestry. They carry a decent amount of middle eastern DNA. Could also be Jewish. They too carry a decent amount of Middle eastern DNA. Could be some random immigrant into Germany from Middle East. That is why low trace points are difficult.

[Senpai]

You are going to be mixed. Where are your matches from? That says a lot. Does not matter if they are 5th generation. I've found 3 2nd cousins. A couple I wish I never found and the rest 4th generation. Enough to let me know where my ancestors came from.

Like, if they're from different countries? Almost all of mine are American. I'm not sure, I'm gonna keep looking. Will update

[Senpai]

It could be Roma (Gypsy) ancestry. They carry a decent amount of middle eastern DNA. Could also be Jewish. They too carry a decent amount of Middle eastern DNA. Could be some random immigrant into Germany from Middle East. That is why low trace points are difficult.

Yeah, definitely looking forward to figuring it out once and for all! Will note that, thanks.

[Slavic Italian]

Like, if they're from different countries? Almost all of mine are American. I'm not sure, I'm gonna keep looking. Will update

Yes. For example I have many from Poland, Russia, Czech. I am a strong Slavic genetic heritage. I have more from Germany and Italy. Those are significant as well.

[Senpai]

Yes. For example I have many from Poland, Russia, Czech. I am a strong Slavic genetic heritage. I have more from Germany and Italy. Those are significant as well.

Dude, I found nothing on myheritage. hahaha. Just some English, and one Italian, (but they had 15% English)

[Slavic Italian]

Dude, I found nothing on myheritage. hahaha. Just some English, and one Italian, (but they had 15% English)

My Heritage is bad in that aspect of ancestry. Do Ancestry DNA or Living DNA.

[Carlito's Way]

British Isles 63%
Scandinavia 22%
Southeast Europe 13%
Northeast Asia 1%
West Africa 1%

Yeah, I've always thought she looked not fully European. She's always thought the same thing, just has no clue about her ancestry. And unfortunately I can't trace past 1880 for her grandparents.

I'm gonna try to find a few pictures of her siblings!

1% SSA = you are a black man, welcome to the club, brotha

[oszkar07]

You are going to be mixed. Where are your matches from? That says a lot. Does not matter if they are 5th generation. I've found 3 2nd cousins. A couple I wish I never found and the rest 4th generation. Enough to let me know where my ancestors came from.

are you talking specifically about autosomal matches or Ydna matches.

I find FTDNA gives me YDNA matches from all over but they are all 12 marker , so mostly I dont feel they mean anything.

[Senpai]

1% SSA = you are a black man, welcome to the club, brotha

HAHAHAHA, I'll wear it like armor, so no one can use it against me.

[Senpai]

are you talking specifically about autosomal matches or Ydna matches.

I find FTDNA gives me YDNA matches from all over but they are all 12 marker , so mostly I dont feel they mean anything.

i personally was doing autosomal. Found barely anything.

[Blanka]

It depends on your genetic cocktail whether any of these services can provide any insight on their own. One service is usually not enough. Right now FTDNA's My Origins 2.0 is quite worthless. But that's for me. Others think it's reflecting their paper trail better. Based on what people say over at the FTDNA forum, MO seems geared towards southern Europe, and anything in the north-north east corner of Europe, especially if it's mixed up, makes MO short out. My Heirtage works better than My Origins for my family so far, even though I would say the estimates are a bit off, and it can get a bit confused if you're more mixed than your average person. But it's logical. I haven't tried Ancestry or 23andme. But together with the ADMIXTURE tools on GEDmatch, it does give more insight into your ancestry, especially if you test your parents too. If you have siblings, get them tests too. The more information, the merrier.

I have to say though, on FTDNA's MO and in the GEDmatch tools I see Iberia pop up in various degrees, and after searching high and low why I get this Iberian percentage, from 2% on MO to somewhere between 5 and 28% om GEDmatch, I still have no answer. Sometimes I get Basque, quite a lot for being a Scandinavian, but sometimes it doesn't show up. It's the wall against which I'm banging my head right now.

[Bec Sinani]

Okay, but even if as the trolls proclaim that "hurr durr RN97 is at least 200% j000", lets ignore all the jewish, n. african etc. There is no damn way I'm 79,4% north and west European... Where did the Romanian go???

I dont get any non european but myheritage should be taken as the least serious test out there

To explain where your Romanian went logically as possible, maybe into all those things you score but even that does not make much sense for varies reasons

[Cihan]

It may sound crude but I’ll say it.
If you really want to know, get her tested now while she is around.
It’s an opportunity that does not last long; all my grandparents passed away.

[Hudayar]

yes

[CertifiedCracker]

Their last name was Buchmann. Which I read is an Ashkenazi name. But I have zero Ashkenazi on my FTDNA and any sites I uploaded the data to.

Ashkenazi shows up as Medeterranean or MENA sometimes. My Jewish blood shows up as Italian, Spanish, and Greek.

[Art23]

I have come late here, but I just wish to say that your grandmother does not look that dark. Many South Germans are in fact quite dark, not the stereotype of blue eyes and blonde hair which everybody has in head. She could well be just regular South German.

Regarding My Heritage, I would be sceptical of all results below 10%.

[Senpai]

I have come late here, but I just wish to say that your grandmother does not look that dark. Many South Germans are in fact quite dark, not the stereotype of blue eyes and blonde hair which everybody has in head. She could well be just regular South German.

Regarding My Heritage, I would be sceptical of all results below 10%.

She's only half German based on the paperwork. The other half is 75% British and 25% Lithuanian. No way the other side would be that dark. Her father was far darker.

[Senpai]

It may sound crude but I’ll say it.
If you really want to know, get her tested now while she is around.
It’s an opportunity that does not last long; all my grandparents passed away.

I'm going to in the next year.

[Senpai]

Ashkenazi shows up as Medeterranean or MENA sometimes. My Jewish blood shows up as Italian, Spanish, and Greek.

Jewish lineage is so odd. It's like little bubbles inside other mixes of DNA. So hard to track properly.

[CertifiedCracker]

Jewish lineage is so odd. It's like little bubbles inside other mixes of DNA. So hard to track properly.

Its true. It really makes it hard to detect tri-racial ancestry too. Who knows? That Middle Eastern might be black and Indian but because DNA tests tend to see tri-racial as Middle Eastern or Medeterranean, you'd never know.

[Senpai]

Its true. It really makes it hard to detect tri-racial ancestry too. Who knows? That Middle Eastern might be black and Indian but because DNA tests tend to see tri-racial as Middle Eastern or Medeterranean, you'd never know.

Who knows man. When I get rich, I'm gonna buy twenty fucking tests and have an expert piece them all together .Fuck this nonsense, lol.

[Norb]

take 23andme

[Senpai]

After speaking with m grandmother today, it was brought to my attention that her father was not only dark, but had curly hair, looked almost "Arab", would always wear sombreros to all the Halloween parties because all the white people thought he looked Mexican.
His Mother who was darker than he was's parents were NOT both from Germany. She was an illegitimate child, and no one has any idea who her father is or where he was from. So I think the Balkan percentages and Middle Eastern percentages make sense now. Just wish I could do more to truly narrow it down.

[Norb]

After speaking with m grandmother today, it was brought to my attention that her father was not only dark, but had curly hair, looked almost "Arab", would always wear sombreros to all the Halloween parties because all the white people thought he looked Mexican.
His Mother who was darker than he was's parents were NOT both from Germany. She was an illegitimate child, and no one has any idea who her father is or where he was from. So I think the Balkan percentages and Middle Eastern percentages make sense now. Just wish I could do more to truly narrow it down.

did you do a 23andme?

[Senpai]

did you do a 23andme?

Not yet my friend! Will do it and plan to have the results from it in Spring time.

[Slavic Italian]

respectfully, zero percent chance. Her father is insanely dark.

It did ok with my results. Got the largest genetic contributions.

[Senpai]

did you do a 23andme?

Plan on buying her one to do as well before Summer.

[Slavic Italian]

Plan on buying her one to do as well before Summer.

If you are going to do a raw data transfer do it with DNA tribes. Wait til late summer. I hear they are going to do a upgrade.

[Senpai]

If you are going to do a raw data transfer do it with DNA tribes. Wait til late summer. I hear they are going to do a upgrade.

Gotcha, Will wait. Thanks

[Peterski]

unknown Med

[Senpai]

So does anyone know of any Balkan percentage that would be mistook as Middle East OR Middle Eastern percentage that would be mistook as Balkan?

If so, which ones.

Because it seems I either get Balkan or Middle East. Never both.

[Senpai]

unknown Med

New Phenotype.
lol