Peterski's Doug McDonald BGA results

[Peterski]

Anyone else got their DNA results from Dr Doug McDonald?

My results:

https://i.imgur.com/JGH2CWv.png

https://i.imgur.com/sZaopVm.png

https://i.imgur.com/Y0BYFsv.png

https://i.imgur.com/21r3SDJ.png

He also sent me something which I guess is Mixed Mode:


Poland= 0.935 Armenian= 0.065 or
Poland= 0.929 Sephardic= 0.071 or
Poland= 0.923 Jewish= 0.077 or
Poland= 0.888 Tuscan= 0.112 or
English= 0.482 Poland= 0.518 or
Poland 0.8432 Spain 0.1568

it could be any of those pairs, or pretty much Poland plus mixes of other Euro places.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Doug McDonald

[Sikeliot]

I sent him my grandmother's but he doesn't process 23andme v5. :picard1: Neither do MyHeritage and FTDNA. If I had known this, I would have simply done AncestryDNA even though I prefer 23andme.

[Peterski]

He did process my FTDNA. But I told him about my "Iberian" Y-DNA and Scottish Y-STR matches to get him interested:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?227534-Why-is-my-Y-DNA-Iberian

[Sikeliot]

He did process my FTDNA.

I mean 23andme v5 cannot go on FTDNA or MyHeritage.

[Peterski]

If I had known this, I would have simply done AncestryDNA even though I prefer 23andme.

23andMe is good for Americans, but some of their services are not available for Europeans (for example health reports).

[RN97]

The guy doesn't want to do it for me, IDK why. He never responded.

[Peterski]

I mean 23andme v5 cannot go on FTDNA or MyHeritage.

Try this converter to convert 23andMe v5 to FTDNA or Ancestry:

http://www.y-str.org/2013/06/autosomal-dna-converter.html

Or upload v5 to DNA.Land and maybe it will convert it to v4?


The guy doesn't want to do it for me, IDK why. He never responded.

Which e-mail did you use? His old e-mail address is inactive.

[Sikeliot]

Try this converter to convert 23andMe v5 to FTDNA or Ancestry:.

I can't download any software to do this -- this is why I cannot do DIY Dodecad. You have my grandmother's file, could you do it for me? If you do, I will find some way to make it up to you.

[Token]

It seems that you are relatively more southern-shifted compared to the average Pole.

[VelvetNono2]

Try this converter to convert 23andMe v5 to FTDNA or Ancestry:

http://www.y-str.org/2013/06/autosomal-dna-converter.html

Or upload v5 to DNA.Land and maybe it will convert it to v4?



Which e-mail did you use? His old e-mail address is inactive.

Does he accept 23andMe v4 raw data?

Also, what is his new email address? I remember him writing this (from this website (https://isogg.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_BGA_project)):
"I am being swamped by requests for BGA analyses. I simply can no longer accommodate all these requests. I am, at least for a while, going to continue providing them free, if people will limit themselves to sending only "important" ones. These include adoptees looking for answers and people whose commercial analyses provide strange answers to whether they have Native American, African or Jewish ancestry.

Note that the new 23andMe "Ancestry Composition" is, on a "continent" level, essentially as good as my system. FTDNA and Ancestry are much less accurate and if you tested with them and they missed expected small bits, I still can take a look. If you are Afro-(Euro)American and FTDNA said you are part Eastern European, I'll check that. Try to describe the question you need answered.

I am still looking for special people to test as comparisons, mostly people with Native American not from Central America.

In particular, I really can't keep up with requests from essentially 100% European people unless they have special questions such as possible Jewish or Roma.

Also, if you have parents their children, please send only parents. Some people have sent me large numbers of files. If these people send more, I can look at them only if they have very very special needs.

Finally, if you got my address from some Web forum, please copy the above occasionally, as I do not frequent these."

How could you get him to respond to you if he doesn't accept all of his requests?

[Peterski]

How could you get him to respond to you if he doesn't accept all of his requests?

You can try saying that there might be something unusual or interesting about your DNA results.

For example I told him about my Y-DNA which is unusual for a Pole.

His new e-mail: jdmcdona@illinois.edu

[Dick]

yeah, whatever the dots mean.


https://i.imgur.com/MGQCxEP.pngp



Most likely fit is 25.9% (+- 8.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 74.1% (+- 8.4%) Europe (all Southeast Europe)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.276 Romania= 0.724 or
Irish= 0.217 Romania= 0.783 or
Germany 0.2937 Romania 0.7063 or
Lithuania= 0.154 Romania= 0.846 or
Belorus= 0.201 Romania= 0.799 or
French= 0.402 Romania= 0.598

[Peterski]

yeah, whatever the dots mean.

Maybe it is explained in the text file "BGA Description" that he sent, I'll check.

[Peterski]

It seems that you are relatively more southern-shifted compared to the average Pole.

Some Iberian, Sephardic or Armenian admixture?

But based on this map, I plot more or less in western Poland (which is correct):

https://i.imgur.com/sZaopVm.png

However, my chromosome 20 has Middle Eastern admixture according to him:

https://i.imgur.com/JGH2CWv.png

Davidski from Eurogenes did not detect it, I guess, as he modeled me as:

Slovakian:average 84.5
Polish:average 14.95
English:average 0.55

But it isn't very helpful because I don't have any Slovakian ancestry for sure.

I asked him to remove Slovakians from comparison and try another model.

[Peterski]

It seems like I have some Sephardic Jewish admixture according to Doug McDonald.

That's weird because so far no other test detected it.

But many people claim that it is hard to detect Sephardic, especially minor amounts.

[Token]

It seems like I have some Sephardic Jewish admixture according to Doug McDonald.

That's weird because so far no other test detected it. Davidski said that I don't have it.

But many people claim that it is hard to detect Sephardic, especially minor amounts.

It is the most likely possibility, this explain why you are modelled as Polish + Southern European or Sephardic.

[firemonkey]

My results based on FTDNA

Spain= 0.164 Irish= 0.836 or
French= 0.292 Irish= 0.708 or
Irish= 0.865 Tuscan= 0.135 or
English= 0.875 Russian= 0.125 or
Irish= 0.844 Italian= 0.156 or
English= 0.867 Finland= 0.133 or
French= 0.669 Finland= 0.331 or
English= 0.932 Chuvash= 0.068 or
Irish= 0.418 English= 0.582 or
Irish= 0.928 Sardinia= 0.072

[Dick]

Maybe it is explained in the text file "BGA Description" that he sent, I'll check.

the green dot is where we plot according to him.

[Peterski]

the green dot is where we plot according to him.

And the red dot is where our Old World DNA plots. It is for people who are not fully European.

If you are fully European, then the red dot and the green dot will be in the same place, I guess.

[Lucas]

Some Iberian, Sephardic or Armenian admixture?

But based on this map, I plot more or less in western Poland (which is correct):

https://i.imgur.com/sZaopVm.png

However, my chromosome 20 has Middle Eastern admixture according to him:

https://i.imgur.com/JGH2CWv.png

Davidski from Eurogenes did not detect it, I guess, as he modeled me as:

Slovakian:average 84.5
Polish:average 14.95
English:average 0.55

But it isn't very helpful because I don't have any Slovakian ancestry for sure.

I asked him to remove Slovakians from comparison and try another model.

In my k47 you have such by chromosome results (change in admix.par genomwide to bychr).

20 Chromosome = largest South Caucasian. But it is 21 which has most East-Med... I don't know what this Oldfart interpret as Middle-East. Probably he uses HGDP and 1000 Genomes data.

You have also quite large Meso-Amerind and Andean in some chromosomes. Combined with quite large for a Pole North-Iberian and East-Iberian (and Central-Med and West-Med). Maybe you have some returned Spanish Creole blood (combined with Iberian Sephardi? And your Latino obsession now is understandable:). But it is possible to see only in bychr mode. You must guess now how it was possible and when...

1
4.04% North-Caucasian
3.43% Paleo-Balkan
0.93% North-Amerind
41.29% East-Euro
25.95% North-Sea_Germanic
17.55% Celtic
0.24% Sahelian
0.97% South-African_HG
0.59% Baltic
1.12% Meso-Amerind
3.90% West-Med


2
3.07% North-Iberian
10.52% South-Caucasian
0.25% Paleo-Balkan
8.71% Arabic
30.31% East-Euro
30.51% Celtic
16.62% Baltic

3


0.15% North-Iberian
11.96% East-Iberian
8.46% South-Caucasian
0.05% North-Caucasian
26.82% East-Euro
0.74% North-Sea_Germanic
8.22% Celtic
3.42% Uralic
6.02% Scando-Germanic
2.84% Iranian
24.21% Baltic
1.10% Meso-Amerind
3.89% Pamirian
2.10% Central-Med

4

9.23% North-Iberian
3.16% South-Caucasian
0.06% North-Caucasian
2.34% Paleo-Balkan
5.30% East-Med
17.41% East-Euro
2.66% Volgan
16.98% Celtic
4.86% West-Finnic
7.58% Scando-Germanic
6.60% Iranian
23.83% Baltic


5

3.02% North-Iberian
3.48% North-African
0.79% Nilotic
50.82% East-Euro
8.72% North-Sea_Germanic
2.84% NW-Indian
5.47% Scando-Germanic
19.40% Baltic
2.75% West-Med
2.34% Central-Med

6



7.29% North-Iberian
3.82% East-Iberian
7.86% North-African
0.54% Paleo-Balkan
18.28% East-Euro
13.60% North-Sea_Germanic
23.76% Celtic
0.06% West-Finnic
8.89% Scando-Germanic
4.03% Baltic
8.97% West-Med
0.70% Pamirian
2.19% Central-Med

7


0.07% North-Iberian
6.31% East-Iberian
3.16% South-Caucasian
1.92% Arabic
28.38% East-Euro
0.13% Volgan
20.04% North-Sea_Germanic
10.68% West-Finnic
2.65% Sahelian
0.85% NW-Indian
10.27% Scando-Germanic
5.21% Baltic
2.66% Meso-Amerind
2.37% South-Chinese
0.29% Papuan

8


8.99% North-African
9.08% Paleo-Balkan
1.29% North-Amerind
1.30% East-Euro
19.81% North-Sea_Germanic
25.82% West-Finnic
8.78% Scando-Germanic
10.58% Baltic
14.33% Central-Med


9


0.29% North-Iberian
1.70% North-Caucasian
10.73% East-Med
6.16% Volgan
16.97% Celtic
23.68% West-Finnic
0.98% Sahelian
0.62% NW-Indian
4.92% Scando-Germanic
25.58% Baltic
7.45% West-Med
0.90% Central-Med

10




23.21% East-Iberian
4.56% North-Caucasian
1.80% East-Med
5.04% Omotic
24.85% East-Euro
4.14% Volgan
8.70% North-Sea_Germanic
2.40% West-Finnic
19.85% Scando-Germanic
4.62% Baltic
0.72% Meso-Amerind

11

0.61% South-Caucasian
36.81% East-Euro
0.99% Volgan
6.93% North-Sea_Germanic
4.23% Celtic
9.17% West-Finnic
3.24% Uralic
5.79% Scando-Germanic
1.48% South-African_HG
0.78% Amazonian
5.85% Baltic
3.47% West-Med
9.18% Pamirian
11.44% Central-Med

12


6.85% North-Iberian
5.77% Paleo-Balkan
17.65% East-Euro
2.37% North-Sea_Germanic
6.48% Celtic
5.26% Scando-Germanic
17.25% Iranian
17.36% Baltic
13.32% West-Med
7.66% Central-Med


13

12.36% North-Iberian
7.23% East-Iberian
0.32% North-Caucasian
2.94% East-Med
26.13% East-Euro
29.03% Celtic
15.96% West-Finnic
1.13% Scando-Germanic
4.15% Baltic
0.75% Central-Med

14


9.78% North-Iberian
12.52% East-Med
1.21% Omotic
6.11% Arabic
16.96% East-Euro
5.09% North-Sea_Germanic
14.64% Celtic
19.06% Scando-Germanic
0.78% Amazonian
13.83% Baltic

15


12.84% North-Iberian
16.93% South-Caucasian
0.77% Central-African_HG
1.48% South-Indian
20.32% North-Sea_Germanic
0.11% Celtic
2.38% Sahelian
20.24% Scando-Germanic
21.34% Baltic
1.27% Papuan
2.31% West-Med


16



7.89% North-Caucasian
21.17% East-Euro
19.00% North-Sea_Germanic
24.36% Celtic
24.98% West-Finnic
0.23% Sahelian
2.31% Baltic

17


0.77% East-Iberian
11.79% Paleo-Balkan
7.64% Arabic
32.04% East-Euro
8.85% North-Sea_Germanic
19.84% West-Finnic
2.78% Uralic
0.77% Scando-Germanic
5.67% Baltic
6.44% West-Med
3.43% Central-Med


18


1.93% East-Iberian
14.03% South-Caucasian
11.84% Paleo-Balkan
18.86% East-Euro
1.91% Andean
14.54% North-Sea_Germanic
23.32% Celtic
1.22% East-Asian
8.34% Scando-Germanic
2.10% Malay
1.51% Papuan
0.32% Central-Med

19


1.12% North-Iberian
6.25% South-Caucasian
0.36% East-Med
37.99% East-Euro
2.50% South-Indian
10.20% North-Sea_Germanic
12.00% West-Finnic
0.42% NW-Indian
22.13% Baltic
2.28% Papuan

20


19.67% South-Caucasian
0.20% North-Caucasian
1.12% Paleo-Balkan
1.68% North-Amerind
6.77% East-Euro
15.85% Volgan
33.01% North-Sea_Germanic
0.85% West-Finnic
11.51% Baltic
4.14% Meso-Amerind
5.21% Pamirian

21


33.68% East-Med
11.72% East-Euro
11.14% North-Sea_Germanic
21.94% West-Finnic
21.48% Baltic



22


12.76% North-Caucasian
13.19% Paleo-Balkan
2.48% East-Med
52.57% East-Euro
0.10% Indo-Chinese
13.52% North-Sea_Germanic
4.03% Amazonian
1.36% Papuan

[Peterski]

(...)

Apparently I'm a real Ostblock Latino just like Marek Fis!

[Peterski]

It seems that you are relatively more southern-shifted compared to the average Pole.

My Y-DNA downstream of R1b-DF27 and of R1b-Z2552:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2552/

https://i.imgur.com/vgGtSmq.png

My dad's Eurogenes K36 (from FTDNA raw data):

Basque 0.29
Central_African 0.05
Central_Euro 10.15
East_Balkan 8.33
East_Central_Euro 19.23
Eastern_Euro 13.7
Fennoscandian 11.05
French 5.28
Iberian 6.23
Italian 3.34
Near_Eastern 1.93
North_Atlantic 9.1
North_Sea 10.51
Volga-Ural 0.36
West_Caucasian 0.24
West_Med 0.17

I sent to McDonald raw data files of my parents but he never replied.

[Dick]

And the red dot is where our Old World DNA plots. It is for people who are not fully European.

If you are fully European, then the red dot and the green dot will be in the same place, I guess.

yes, both green and red dots are in Hungary and 100% European according to him

https://i.imgur.com/MGQCxEP.pngp


Most likely fit is 25.9% (+- 8.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 74.1% (+- 8.4%) Europe (all Southeast Europe)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.276 Romania= 0.724 or
Irish= 0.217 Romania= 0.783 or
Germany 0.2937 Romania 0.7063 or
Lithuania= 0.154 Romania= 0.846 or
Belorus= 0.201 Romania= 0.799 or
French= 0.402 Romania= 0.598

[Slavic Italian]

I sent him my info. Hope he responds.

[Lucas]

yes, both green and red dots are in Hungary and 100% European according to him

https://i.imgur.com/MGQCxEP.pngp


Most likely fit is 25.9% (+- 8.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 74.1% (+- 8.4%) Europe (all Southeast Europe)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.276 Romania= 0.724 or
Irish= 0.217 Romania= 0.783 or
Germany 0.2937 Romania 0.7063 or
Lithuania= 0.154 Romania= 0.846 or
Belorus= 0.201 Romania= 0.799 or
French= 0.402 Romania= 0.598

But blue is also on Crete.

[Token]

My Y-DNA downstream of R1b-DF27 and of R1b-Z2552:

I sent to McDonald raw data files of my parents but he never replied.

Ostblock latino

[Iloko]

"Merry Christmas"... nice lol

[Dick]

But blue is also on Crete.

I zoomed in and it’s on Peloponnesus. Litvins is in turkey

[Peterski]

No. I zoomed in and it’s on Peloponnesus. Litvins is in turkey

Yes. And my European dot is somewhere around Lubusz (Lebus):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebus#History

^^^
Old Piast Dynasty territory, rightful Polish clay as my result show:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?269729-Poland-under-Mieszko-I-ca-960-992-AD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmCHW--lJ3Q

[Dick]

Yes. And my European dot is somewhere around Lubusz (Lebus):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebus#History

^^^
Old Piast Dynasty territory, rightful Polish clay as my result show:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?269729-Poland-under-Mieszko-I-ca-960-992-AD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmCHW--lJ3Q

Was the Piast Dynasty R1b?