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Profileid
12-28-2017, 09:57 AM
I only got .2% in 23andme which is well below noise levels, but I haven't seen other White Americans get any South Asian at all before.
Looking at gedmatch calculators, it doesn't go away entirely either. Interestingly enough, I usually get a number hovering around 2%.
Eurogenes K13
1 North_Atlantic 49.63
2 Baltic 24.16
3 West_Med 9.82
4 West_Asian 7.72
5 East_Med 3.56
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Siberian 1.24
8 Oceanian 1.1
9 Amerindian 0.41
10 Sub-Saharan 0.3
Dodecad V3
1 West_European 51.56
2 Mediterranean 24.21
3 East_European 13.28
4 West_Asian 8.19
5 South_Asian 1.77
6 Northeast_Asian 0.52
7 Southeast_Asian 0.28
8 East_African 0.18
EUTest
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 27.86
2 ATLANTIC 26.66
3 EAST_EURO 12.73
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.35
5 WEST_MED 9.09
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.53
7 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.4
8 EAST_MED
Mixed mode is weird as well because I usually get odd populations for the second
Eurogenes K13
1 94.6% North_Dutch + 5.4% Tadjik @ 2.34
2 95.2% North_Dutch + 4.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.37
3 96.2% North_Dutch + 3.8% Brahui @ 2.38
4 96.1% North_Dutch + 3.9% Makrani @ 2.39
5 96.1% North_Dutch + 3.9% Sindhi @ 2.39
6 96.1% North_Dutch + 3.9% Balochi @ 2.4
7 95.1% North_Dutch + 4.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.41
8 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Burusho @ 2.44
9 95.1% North_Dutch + 4.9% Turkmen @ 2.46
10 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Tabassaran @ 2.47
11 95.8% North_Dutch + 4.2% Kalash @ 2.47
12 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Pathan @ 2.48
13 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.51
14 96.2% Danish + 3.8% Ossetian @ 2.51
15 93.7% Orcadian + 6.3% Lezgin @ 2.52
16 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Brahui @ 2.53
17 95.7% Danish + 4.3% Tadjik @ 2.54
18 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Balochi @ 2.55
19 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Makrani @ 2.55
20 96.1% Danish + 3.9% Turkmen @ 2.57
EUtest
1 94% Orcadian + 6% Kalash @ 2.07
2 94.3% Orcadian + 5.7% Balochi @ 2.24
3 94.3% Orcadian + 5.7% Brahui @ 2.25
4 94.4% Orcadian + 5.6% Burusho @ 2.27
5 94.9% Orcadian + 5.1% Sindhi @ 2.3
6 95.8% Orcadian + 4.2% IN @ 2.59
7 96% Orcadian + 4% Gujarati @ 2.62
8 93.9% Orcadian + 6.1% Lezgin @ 2.7
9 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.76
10 94.7% Orcadian + 5.3% IR @ 2.9
11 93.2% English + 6.8% Kalash @ 2.9
12 94.5% IE + 5.5% Brahui @ 2.92
13 94.6% IE + 5.4% Balochi @ 2.92
14 94.5% IE + 5.5% Kalash @ 2.97
15 95% Orcadian + 5% Kurdish @ 2.99
16 97.1% Orcadian + 2.9% South_Indian @ 3
17 94.8% IE + 5.2% Burusho @ 3.02
18 95.3% IE + 4.7% Sindhi @ 3.04
19 95.6% Orcadian + 4.4% GE @ 3.05
20 58.6% IE + 41.4% West_&_Central_German @ 3.12
Carpatz
12-28-2017, 10:02 AM
you're a gypsy
Profileid
12-28-2017, 10:07 AM
you're a gypsy
nop
Gangrel
12-28-2017, 10:11 AM
https://soundcloud.com/alvin-a-guan/pink-guy-incredible-india
Profileid
01-07-2018, 04:25 AM
bump.
Mingle
01-07-2018, 04:39 AM
No, it doesn't look like it's noise. Wonder where it came from.
Fractal
01-07-2018, 04:39 AM
you're a gypsy
Romanians are considered eastern european toilet cleaners/plumbers in the USA.
It's far better to look like an exotic gypsy than a stupid low IQ Slav unless it's some Russian hacker employed at a cyber security company or Indian owned start up.
Secondly, doubt the OP has any South Asian blood considering her BMI, weight, and employment as a burger flipper at a fast food joint - all of which point to being 100% White Murican.
It's statistical noise. She's 100% White American.
JohnSmith
01-07-2018, 04:50 AM
Romanians are considered eastern european toilet cleaners/plumbers in the USA.
It's far better to look like an exotic gypsy than a stupid low IQ Slav unless it's some Russian hacker employed at a cyber security company or Indian owned start up.
Secondly, doubt the OP has any South Asian blood considering her BMI, weight, and employment as a burger flipper at a fast food joint - all of which point to being 100% White Murican.
It's statistical noise. She's 100% White American.
Can you even code? I pretty much taught myself a lot of it learning different coding languages.
Fractal
01-07-2018, 04:52 AM
Can you even code? I pretty much taught myself a lot of it learning different coding languages.
I am not very good at coding by the standards of Indians, but I want to learn Python because it stands out on your resume.
I'm guessing you started out with Java or C++.
JohnSmith
01-07-2018, 05:00 AM
I am not very good at coding by the standards of Indians, but I want to learn Python because it stands out on your resume.
I'm guessing you started out with Java or C++.
Coding is only half the problem ,, solving the workflow and accounting for everything that can go wrong is 50% of your time. I do .NET now.
zhaoyun
01-07-2018, 05:00 AM
Gypsy Crew
JohnSmith
01-07-2018, 05:01 AM
I am not very good at coding by the standards of Indians, but I want to learn Python because it stands out on your resume.
I'm guessing you started out with Java or C++.
Coding is only half the problem ,, solving the workflow and accounting for everything that can go wrong is 50% of your time. I do .NET now.
Iloko
01-07-2018, 05:01 AM
What about 'puntDNAL K15'?
I would also like to see your puntDNAL K15 chromosome painting screenshot if possible :)
In my case puntDNAL K15 picks up my South Asian the most effectively:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 E_Asian 81.58
2 S_Indian 7.31
3 Oceanian 3.87
4 Caucasian 1.57
5 NE_European 1.48
6 Mediterranean 1.39
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 W_African 0.47
9 Beringian 0.45
10 Horn_Of_Africa 0.3
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.22
12 S_African 0.2
Thracian
01-07-2018, 05:24 AM
Probably, you have a little bit Turkic or Iranic ancestry.
Carpatz
01-07-2018, 05:57 AM
Romanians are considered eastern european toilet cleaners/plumbers in the USA.
It's far better to look like an exotic gypsy than a stupid low IQ Slav unless it's some Russian hacker employed at a cyber security company or Indian owned start up.
Secondly, doubt the OP has any South Asian blood considering her BMI, weight, and employment as a burger flipper at a fast food joint - all of which point to being 100% White Murican.
It's statistical noise. She's 100% White American.
someone is coping hard with being a poojeet
Fractal
01-07-2018, 05:59 AM
someone is coping hard with being a poojeet
Okay Antonio Romanplumberescu.
TEUTORIGOS
01-07-2018, 06:07 AM
I only got .2% in 23andme which is well below noise levels, but I haven't seen other White Americans get any South Asian at all before.
Looking at gedmatch calculators, it doesn't go away entirely either. Interestingly enough, I usually get a number hovering around 2%.
Eurogenes K13
1 North_Atlantic 49.63
2 Baltic 24.16
3 West_Med 9.82
4 West_Asian 7.72
5 East_Med 3.56
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Siberian 1.24
8 Oceanian 1.1
9 Amerindian 0.41
10 Sub-Saharan 0.3
Dodecad V3
1 West_European 51.56
2 Mediterranean 24.21
3 East_European 13.28
4 West_Asian 8.19
5 South_Asian 1.77
6 Northeast_Asian 0.52
7 Southeast_Asian 0.28
8 East_African 0.18
EUTest
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 27.86
2 ATLANTIC 26.66
3 EAST_EURO 12.73
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.35
5 WEST_MED 9.09
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.53
7 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.4
8 EAST_MED
Mixed mode is weird as well because I usually get odd populations for the second
Eurogenes K13
1 94.6% North_Dutch + 5.4% Tadjik @ 2.34
2 95.2% North_Dutch + 4.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.37
3 96.2% North_Dutch + 3.8% Brahui @ 2.38
4 96.1% North_Dutch + 3.9% Makrani @ 2.39
5 96.1% North_Dutch + 3.9% Sindhi @ 2.39
6 96.1% North_Dutch + 3.9% Balochi @ 2.4
7 95.1% North_Dutch + 4.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.41
8 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Burusho @ 2.44
9 95.1% North_Dutch + 4.9% Turkmen @ 2.46
10 93.4% Orcadian + 6.6% Tabassaran @ 2.47
11 95.8% North_Dutch + 4.2% Kalash @ 2.47
12 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Pathan @ 2.48
13 95.9% North_Dutch + 4.1% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.51
14 96.2% Danish + 3.8% Ossetian @ 2.51
15 93.7% Orcadian + 6.3% Lezgin @ 2.52
16 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Brahui @ 2.53
17 95.7% Danish + 4.3% Tadjik @ 2.54
18 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Balochi @ 2.55
19 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Makrani @ 2.55
20 96.1% Danish + 3.9% Turkmen @ 2.57
EUtest
1 94% Orcadian + 6% Kalash @ 2.07
2 94.3% Orcadian + 5.7% Balochi @ 2.24
3 94.3% Orcadian + 5.7% Brahui @ 2.25
4 94.4% Orcadian + 5.6% Burusho @ 2.27
5 94.9% Orcadian + 5.1% Sindhi @ 2.3
6 95.8% Orcadian + 4.2% IN @ 2.59
7 96% Orcadian + 4% Gujarati @ 2.62
8 93.9% Orcadian + 6.1% Lezgin @ 2.7
9 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.76
10 94.7% Orcadian + 5.3% IR @ 2.9
11 93.2% English + 6.8% Kalash @ 2.9
12 94.5% IE + 5.5% Brahui @ 2.92
13 94.6% IE + 5.4% Balochi @ 2.92
14 94.5% IE + 5.5% Kalash @ 2.97
15 95% Orcadian + 5% Kurdish @ 2.99
16 97.1% Orcadian + 2.9% South_Indian @ 3
17 94.8% IE + 5.2% Burusho @ 3.02
18 95.3% IE + 4.7% Sindhi @ 3.04
19 95.6% Orcadian + 4.4% GE @ 3.05
20 58.6% IE + 41.4% West_&_Central_German @ 3.12
Eurogenes was created by a mentally deficient untermensch Polack who should be a plumber instead. Dodecad seems biased towards Southern components and Eurogenes Eastern. The Polack k13 gives me 1.37 Siberian while my Finnish/NorthWest Russia score is less than 1% on AncestryDNA likely noise.
Not just that but K13 tells me I am Irish and K15 English. Mixing up the Irish and Scottish is understandable by confusing Irish and English is a retarded faux pas.
Profileid
01-07-2018, 06:08 AM
Romanians are considered eastern european toilet cleaners/plumbers in the USA.
It's far better to look like an exotic gypsy than a stupid low IQ Slav unless it's some Russian hacker employed at a cyber security company or Indian owned start up.
Secondly, doubt the OP has any South Asian blood considering her BMI, weight, and employment as a burger flipper at a fast food joint - all of which point to being 100% White Murican.
It's statistical noise. She's 100% White American.
shut the fuck up bitch.
im going to ask for your off topic shitposting to be deleted if you continue.
Hadouken
01-07-2018, 06:15 AM
I dont think it is just noise but it is still very little of course . and old
Profileid
01-07-2018, 06:17 AM
What about 'puntDNAL K15'?
I would also like to see your puntDNAL K15 chromosome painting screenshot if possible :)
In my case puntDNAL K15 picks up my South Asian the most effectively:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 E_Asian 81.58
2 S_Indian 7.31
3 Oceanian 3.87
4 Caucasian 1.57
5 NE_European 1.48
6 Mediterranean 1.39
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 W_African 0.47
9 Beringian 0.45
10 Horn_Of_Africa 0.3
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.22
12 S_African 0.2
NE_European 54.91
2 Mediterranean 28.45
3 Caucasian 10.57
4 S_Indian 2.23
5 SW_Asian 1.27
6 Oceanian 0.94
7 Beringian 0.75
8 Siberian 0.67
9 Wht_Nile_River 0.23
No idea how to do the chromosome painting things.
1 92% Scottish + 8% Pashtun @ 1.21
2 91.6% Scottish + 8.4% Tadjik @ 1.38
3 94% Scottish + 6% Balochi @ 1.46
4 94.1% Scottish + 5.9% Brahui @ 1.52
5 94% Scottish + 6% Makrani @ 1.53
6 93.1% Scottish + 6.9% Pathan @ 1.57
7 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 1.59
8 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 1.59
9 93.5% Scottish + 6.5% Burusho @ 1.59
10 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Paniya @ 1.59
wvwvw
01-07-2018, 06:19 AM
0.2% is noise. 2% is real Gujarati admixture (=higher IQ points)
Hadouken
01-07-2018, 06:23 AM
can you post your dodecad k12b
CabOOM
01-07-2018, 06:28 AM
NE_European 54.91
2 Mediterranean 28.45
3 Caucasian 10.57
4 S_Indian 2.23
5 SW_Asian 1.27
6 Oceanian 0.94
7 Beringian 0.75
8 Siberian 0.67
9 Wht_Nile_River 0.23
No idea how to do the chromosome painting things.
1 92% Scottish + 8% Pashtun @ 1.21
2 91.6% Scottish + 8.4% Tadjik @ 1.38
3 94% Scottish + 6% Balochi @ 1.46
4 94.1% Scottish + 5.9% Brahui @ 1.52
5 94% Scottish + 6% Makrani @ 1.53
6 93.1% Scottish + 6.9% Pathan @ 1.57
7 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 1.59
8 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 1.59
9 93.5% Scottish + 6.5% Burusho @ 1.59
10 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Paniya @ 1.59
This doesn't look like noise. British empire did have along presence in India. Could just have acquired some admixture down the line. It is very small anyways.
Profileid
01-07-2018, 06:30 AM
can you post your dodecad k12b
1 North_European 44.86
2 Atlantic_Med 35.66
3 Gedrosia 9.06
4 Caucasus 7.86
5 South_Asian 1.62
6 Siberian 0.71
7 East_African 0.17
8 East_Asian 0.06
Iloko
01-07-2018, 06:37 AM
NE_European 54.91
2 Mediterranean 28.45
3 Caucasian 10.57
4 S_Indian 2.23
5 SW_Asian 1.27
6 Oceanian 0.94
7 Beringian 0.75
8 Siberian 0.67
9 Wht_Nile_River 0.23
No idea how to do the chromosome painting things.
1 92% Scottish + 8% Pashtun @ 1.21
2 91.6% Scottish + 8.4% Tadjik @ 1.38
3 94% Scottish + 6% Balochi @ 1.46
4 94.1% Scottish + 5.9% Brahui @ 1.52
5 94% Scottish + 6% Makrani @ 1.53
6 93.1% Scottish + 6.9% Pathan @ 1.57
7 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Tamil_Nadu_SC @ 1.59
8 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 1.59
9 93.5% Scottish + 6.5% Burusho @ 1.59
10 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Paniya @ 1.59
Looks real, as it even shows up in the mixed-mode Oracle breakdown, which indicates that at even 2.23% S_Indian it is genealogically relevant rather than ancient admixture.
I believe Pashtun are Caucasian-shifted while Tamils are more Australoid-shifted. The fact that you have 8% Pashtun listed at the top of the Oracle could mean that some of your Indian might have gotten caught up in the 'Caucasian' component as opposed to 'S_Indian'. Or maybe your South Asian is more along the lines of Tamil ancestry with that 2.3% Tamil_Nadu towards the bottom of your Oracle...I'm not really sure.
Hadouken
01-07-2018, 06:42 AM
you cant go too much by what the 2 population list gives . what you get as secondary population is dependant on what starting point (primary population) you are taking . if a person scores only 1-2 % south asian you can model him as 98% icelandic + 2 % tamil for example even if that south asian is brought by lets say a Tajik into the family lol
I actually guess that you have a distant relative from central asia . which might also explain that you also score a tiny bit of east asian / siberian
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