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Decius
12-28-2017, 09:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SVdnqm8.png

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:08 PM
I wonder what your europe west is?

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:09 PM
I wonder what your europe west is?

Ik it was a very strange one it said 0-23 percent range

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:10 PM
Ik it was a very strange one it said 0-23 percent range

did you see my new ancestryDNA results in my signature?

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:10 PM
did you see my new ancestryDNA results in my signature?

Yes and I saw the once you go tajik you never go back xD

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 09:12 PM
Do a Gedmatch.

Btw, what predictor gives you, G2a-L497 or G2a-L497>L42>YSC33?

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:12 PM
Yes and I saw the once you go tajik you never go back xD

forever a mongol.. ;)
anyways i think its accurate anyways, i look mordvin as fuck, and i plot with them. Basically explains it, as my grandmother came from nizhny novgorod. and her sister moved to mordovia.
anyways... are you confused on anything on your ancestry?

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:13 PM
forever a mongol.. ;)
anyways i think its accurate anyways, i look mordvin as fuck, and i plot with them. Basically explains it, as my grandmother came from nizhny novgorod. and her sister moved to mordovia.
anyways... are you confused on anything on your ancestry?

Just the Europe west

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:14 PM
Do a Gedmatch.

Btw, what predictor gives you, G2a-L497 or G2a-L497>L42>YSC33?

It said Im most likely G-YSC0000033 which is L497 I think.

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:15 PM
Just the Europe west

you dont have any italy? i wonder how you have europe west but no italy?

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 09:15 PM
It said Im most likely G-YSC0000033 which is L497 I think.

It's our lowest known SNP (3600 ybp formed, 3200 TMRCA). So yeah, you are confirmed YSC33+.

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:15 PM
It said Im most likely G-YSC0000033 which is L497 I think.

sooo, your haplogroup is G?

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:16 PM
Eurogenes K13

https://i.imgur.com/1z0xhLz.png

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:17 PM
sooo, your haplogroup is G?

Yep its from Vinca Culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:18 PM
Eurogenes K13



whats your 2, 3 and 4 populations look like?

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 09:19 PM
Yep its from Vinca Culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture

celtic? if so then celtic pride! :clover:

Decius
12-28-2017, 09:20 PM
celtic? if so then celtic pride! :clover:

G was present among celts

spik
12-28-2017, 09:56 PM
But how much of your Europe East is actually Balkan?

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:19 PM
But how much of your Europe East is actually Balkan?

No Idea look at my Eurogenes K13 results I guess

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 10:21 PM
do eurogenes huntergatherers

spik
12-28-2017, 10:21 PM
No Idea look at my Eurogenes K13 results I guess

23andme differentiates between two of them.

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 10:22 PM
so do u have any greece or albanian ancestry according to ancestryDNA?

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:26 PM
so do u have any greece or albanian ancestry according to ancestryDNA?

Idk I guess southern Europe includes those countries but serbs are usually a mix of southern and eastern european

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 10:28 PM
Do Eurogenes K36 and post your map (http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm) based on it's values.

spik
12-28-2017, 10:31 PM
Are you going to join stormfront now?

Kelmendasi
12-28-2017, 10:31 PM
Yep its from Vinca Culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture
Which study said it was found in Vinca? Afaik your clade is a Celto-Germanic one and linked to groups like the La Tene Celts

Kelmendasi
12-28-2017, 10:37 PM
Congrats btw

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:42 PM
Do Eurogenes K36 and post your map (http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm) based on it's values.

https://i.imgur.com/A43dyQt.png

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:45 PM
Which study said it was found in Vinca? Afaik your clade is a Celto-Germanic one and linked to groups like the La Tene Celts

Idk much about it Europa Nazione told me our haplo was found in Vinca

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 10:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/A43dyQt.png

Interesting, I thought that you will be closser to Western Slavs than to Southern.

This is mine for example.
https://i.imgur.com/ulnVC6q.jpg

Idk much about it Europa Nazione told me our haplo was found in Vinca

Actually father clade (L140) of our L497 clade.

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:45 PM
Congrats btw

Were do you think the Europe west came from its confusing the fuck outta me

Kelmendasi
12-28-2017, 10:47 PM
Idk much about it Europa Nazione told me our haplo was found in Vinca
The father clade was, Nazione knows more than me when it comes to G2a so he may be correct. From what I was reading, in origin it’s believed to be from the LBK culture and was then later part of groups such as the Hallstatt Celts. Today it’s mainly found around Austria

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:48 PM
Which study said it was found in Vinca? Afaik your clade is a Celto-Germanic one and linked to groups like the La Tene Celts

Could you make a map of were I plot like North or South however I don't know how to make those maps my eurogenes k13 is on like the second page or something

Kelmendasi
12-28-2017, 10:49 PM
Were do you think the Europe west came from its confusing the fuck outta me
It could be due to the more western shift that Croats have when compared to other south Slavs

Kelmendasi
12-28-2017, 10:50 PM
Could you make a map of were I plot like North or South however I don't know how to make those maps my eurogenes k13 is on like the second page or something
You cant with K13 but you can with K15

Decius
12-28-2017, 10:51 PM
You cant with K13 but you can with K15

How do I do that could you give me a link.

Kelmendasi
12-28-2017, 10:54 PM
How do I do that could you give me a link.
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

EasternEurope
12-28-2017, 11:01 PM
Were do you think the Europe west came from its confusing the fuck outta me

Austrians who migrated into Krajina during the times of the A-H Empire? I can't think of any other thing it could be.

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:01 PM
Idk which drawing app but I have the K15 V2 results could you help me with it

https://i.imgur.com/z28br0Z.png

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:02 PM
Austrians who migrated into Krajina during the times of the A-H Empire? I can't think of any other thing it could be.

Maybe but 10 percent is alot

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 11:02 PM
Austrians who migrated into Krajina during the times of the A-H Empire? I can't think of any other thing it could be.

Bullshit. It's pretty normal for (north)western Serbs, Croats and Slovenians to score higher percents of ''northern'' and western European.

For example my FF MyOrigins gives me 33% of Western and Central Europe.

EasternEurope
12-28-2017, 11:04 PM
Maybe but 10 percent is alot

True, true.


Bullshit. It's pretty normal for (north)western Serbs, Croats and Slovenians to score higher percents of ''northern'' and western European percents.

For example my FF MyOrigins gives me 33% of Western and Central Europe.

Interesting...

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:04 PM
Bullshit. It's pretty normal for (north)western Serbs, Croats and Slovenians to score higher percents of ''northern'' and western European.

For example my FF MyOrigins gives me 33% of Western and Central Europe.

Could you help me with the map here are the K15 V2 results

https://i.imgur.com/z28br0Z.png

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:08 PM
Bullshit. It's pretty normal for (north)western Serbs, Croats and Slovenians to score higher percents of ''northern'' and western European.

For example my FF MyOrigins gives me 33% of Western and Central Europe.

Its giving me NaN for coordinates idk why

CabOOM
12-28-2017, 11:10 PM
Idk which drawing app but I have the K15 V2 results could you help me with it

https://i.imgur.com/z28br0Z.png

You can use this website here http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm
Enter the values and it will give you the coordinates. Open the map on paint and turn on the ruler. Simply place a dot on the pixel coordinates it gives you

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:12 PM
You can use this website here http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm
Enter the values and it will give you the coordinates. Open the map on paint and turn on the ruler. Simply place a dot on the pixel coordinates it gives you

I tried and it keeps giving me NaN for coordinates

CabOOM
12-28-2017, 11:13 PM
I tried and it keeps giving me NaN for coordinates

It is giving me Nan for your data also. I don't know

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 11:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PHDa40G.jpg

greasycaveman
12-28-2017, 11:18 PM
so he is more croatian?

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PHDa40G.jpg

Fuck I am North and West as hell

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 11:19 PM
so he is more croatian?

Like most northern Serbs, yes, what is normal (as I seen on other northern Serb results).

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PHDa40G.jpg

That's so weird though it gives me Serbian on the oracle wtf is this

https://i.imgur.com/XYgHmx2.png

Tschaikisten
12-28-2017, 11:23 PM
That's so weird though it gives me Serbian on the oracle wtf is this



Autosomal test and calculators are for fun, it can not change anyone nationality, heritage, religion. It can only tell us to which populations and regions are our autosomes closser.

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:24 PM
Autosomal test and calculators are for fun, it can not change anyone nationality, heritage, religion. It can only tell us to which populations and regions are our autosomes closser.

I'm not mad I'm just confused its giving me Serbian on the oracle but on the map I'm closest to Croatian

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:35 PM
Autosomal test and calculators are for fun, it can not change anyone nationality, heritage, religion. It can only tell us to which populations and regions are our autosomes closser.

That result was for the Eurogenes K15 V2 is that the wrong calculator for the map maybe There was no normal K15

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:44 PM
Lol this DNA test is confusing me which population am I closer to Am I closer to Serbs genetically which oracle results suggest or am I closer to croats which the map and ancestryDNA suggests with my 10 percent west Europe result

spik
12-28-2017, 11:52 PM
Maybe but 10 percent is alot

Yes, yes. Maybe your great-grandparent was a German wandering through your lands. That’s why you’re closer to Germanic people (Germans and Austrians), then to other Slavs (Ukrainians and Russians) on Oracle.

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:54 PM
Yes, yes. Maybe your great-grandparent was a German wandering through your lands.

all my great grandparents are south slavs

Decius
12-28-2017, 11:59 PM
The west Europe is 0-23 percent range it said

spik
12-29-2017, 12:01 AM
The west Europe is 0-23 percent range it said

What are the ranges for rest?

Tschaikisten
12-29-2017, 12:04 AM
Transfer your data to FTDNA, I'm interested to see your Western & Central Europe percents in MyOrigins (even it's worst commercial calc).

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:04 AM
What are the ranges for rest?

Europe East: 41-66 they gave me 54

Europe South: 22-43 they gave me 32

Europe West: 0-23 they gave me 10

The other regions are not that signifigant because they are low confidence most likely noise

spik
12-29-2017, 12:07 AM
Europe East: 41-66 they gave me 54

Europe South: 22-43 they gave me 32

Europe West: 0-23 they gave me 10

The other regions are not that signifigant because they are low confidence most likely noise

I guess to confirm whether they’re noise you would need to see if you match Jews on Jewish regions, etc... You can also do Jtest calculator on Eurogenes Gedmatch.

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:13 AM
I guess to confirm whether they’re noise you would need to see if you match Jews on Jewish regions, etc... You can also do Jtest calculator on Eurogenes Gedmatch.

Here is Jtest

https://i.imgur.com/Ao0RxI9.png
https://i.imgur.com/gFrpRrS.png

I think euros get 3 percent ashkanazi or something like that so the jewish levels are normal for europeans

spik
12-29-2017, 12:16 AM
Here is Jtest

https://i.imgur.com/Ao0RxI9.png
https://i.imgur.com/gFrpRrS.png

I think euros get 3 percent ashkanazi or something like that so the jewish levels are normal for europeans

Yeah, it’s normal. Though it’s a pity that you can’t compare regions you share with your cousins on AncestryDNA, like you can on 23andme.

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:19 AM
Yeah, it’s normal. Though it’s a pity that you can’t compare regions you share with your cousins on AncestryDNA, like you can on 23andme.

I might get 23andme too just to see if the west euro result is consistent

spik
12-29-2017, 12:21 AM
I might get 23andme too just to see if west euro is consistent

I heard they do ‘ethnicity only’ test now at the same price as AncestryDNA. It includes Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups and neanderthal percentage as well. It’s also good for Jewish recognition.

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:23 AM
I heard they do ‘ethnicity only’ test now at the same price as AncestryDNA. It includes Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups and neanderthal percentage as well. It’s also good for Jewish recognition.

Problem is I live in Canada so I am forced to pay the full price since there is no just ancestry option on the Canadian market

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:24 AM
Transfer your data to FTDNA, I'm interested to see your Western & Central Europe percents in MyOrigins (even it's worst commercial calc).

it keeps giving me this message when I try to upload

The specified file 'dna-data-2017-12-25.zip' could not be uploaded. The file is an unsupported version or in a corrupt/malformed format. Please place an order for Family Finder or download the file and try again.

RN97
12-29-2017, 12:26 AM
Interesting, I thought that you will be closser to Western Slavs than to Southern.

This is mine for example.
https://i.imgur.com/ulnVC6q.jpg


Actually father clade (L140) of our L497 clade.

You're very northern for a Serb.

spik
12-29-2017, 12:27 AM
Problem is I live in Canada so I am forced to pay the full price since there is no just ancestry option on the Canadian market

It’s offering the option at Canadian site.
https://www.23andme.com/en-ca/compare-dna-tests/

spik
12-29-2017, 12:28 AM
You're very northern for a Serb.

Mostly South German genetically he is.

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:34 AM
Mostly South German genetically he is.

What am I genetically then these oracles say Serbian Romanian and sometimes Moldovian but the K15 map suggested Croatian and the AncestryDNA result suggested Croatian because of Europe west

spik
12-29-2017, 12:36 AM
What am I genetically then these oracles say Serbian Romanian and sometimes Moldovian but the K15 map suggested Croatian and the AncestryDNA result suggested Croatian because of Europe west

So your family is from Croatia with Serbian identity? Your map shows Serbian doesn’t it?

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:38 AM
So your family is from Croatia with Serbian identity?

I am a serb I know that my family are Serbs from Croatia but am I more northern or closer to Serbs from Serbia

spik
12-29-2017, 12:42 AM
I am a serb I know that my family are Serbs from Croatia but am I more northern or closer to Serbs from Serbia

Serb.
PS: Does genetic communities only offers Croatian option for you?

Decius
12-29-2017, 12:44 AM
Serb.
PS: Does genetic communities only offers Croatian option for you?

There was no specific genetic community in my AncestryDNA results

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 02:24 AM
The west Europe is 0-23 percent range it said

thats not how it works the the 10% is the best possible prediction between 0 to 23 percent. just letting you know bro

Decius
12-29-2017, 02:28 AM
thats not how it works the the 10% is the best possible prediction between 0 to 23 percent. just letting you know bro

Ik

alnortedelsur
12-29-2017, 05:00 AM
Congrats for your results :)

Very Balkan, I guess xD

Decius
12-29-2017, 05:01 AM
Congrats for your results :)

Very Balkan, I guess xD

Yep, the only strange result was the Europe West. the low confidence regions are probably noise or just neothilic ancestry.

alnortedelsur
12-29-2017, 05:26 AM
Yep, the only strange result was the Europe West. the low confidence regions are probably noise or just neothilic ancestry.

Yeah, I was also somewhat shocked when I found out that I scored 29% Italian/Greek on ancestry DNA, being the case that I only have a bit of known Italian ancestry (1/16, coming from a second grand grandpa), and when I came up scoring 12% British and 5% Irish. Tough I guess that it is normal among Iberians to score some Italian and some British/Irish, on Ancestry DNA, since they are somewhat in-between those populations in geographic terms.

Bosniensis
12-29-2017, 05:27 AM
Try DNA.LAND (free), MyHeritage (Free) and GenePlaza K29, Ancesty test (they are 4-5 euros)

Just upload your results there :P

Decius
12-29-2017, 06:42 PM
DNA land results

Balkan 59%
North Slavic 28%
Finnish 1.4%
Northwest European 9%
Sardinian 2.8%

Decius
12-29-2017, 06:43 PM
Try DNA.LAND (free), MyHeritage (Free) and GenePlaza K29, Ancesty test (they are 4-5 euros)

Just upload your results there :P

Posted DNA land results :)

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 06:47 PM
Damn 60% balkan i only got 1% balkan lol

Decius
12-29-2017, 06:51 PM
Damn 60% balkan i only got 1% balkan lol

Told you :) We (South Slavs) are native Balkan southern Europeans. Bosniensis got even more than me he got in like the 80s and he got less slavic

kingjohn
12-29-2017, 06:54 PM
Damn 60% balkan i only got 1% balkan lol

but you got some north/ central italy the true roman genes :wink

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 06:55 PM
but you got some north/ central italy the true roman genes :wink

like 10% but dnaland is not accurate

kingjohn
12-29-2017, 06:58 PM
like 10% but dnaland is not accurate

afcorse it is not accurate i score 29% north central italy this is the main non- jewish component in me
yet my parents score 0% but they score 20-30% balkan though:confused:

Decius
12-29-2017, 06:58 PM
like 10% but dnaland is not accurate

Its decently accurate I guess but there is flaws Idk why I keep getting western European it seems like on every other thing I get some West or NW european

Decius
12-29-2017, 07:01 PM
Damn 60% balkan i only got 1% balkan lol

How much North Slavic did you get on it.

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 07:01 PM
afcorse it is not accurate i score 29% north central italy this is the main non- jewish component in me
yet my parents score 0% but they score 20-30% balkan though:confused:

i need to dna test my mom.

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 07:03 PM
How much North Slavic did you get on it.

i get 70%
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69983&d=1511393805

kingjohn
12-29-2017, 07:03 PM
Its decently accurate I guess but there is flaws Idk why I keep getting western European it seems like on every other thing I get some West or NW european

because you score north atlantic + north sea =10% in eurogenes k36
you got northwest european genes and it goes again and again both in dna land and the 10% west europe in ancestery .
tell me there where ever celtic tribes in serbia ?

Decius
12-29-2017, 07:04 PM
i get 70%
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69983&d=1511393805

Not Myheritage how much do you get on DNA land

Decius
12-29-2017, 07:05 PM
because you score north atlantic + north sea =10% in eurogenes k36
you got northwest european genes and it goes again and again both in dna land and the 10% west europe in ancestery .
tell me there where ever celtic tribes in serbia ?

Yes there were and I also carry a Haplogroup that was present among Hallstatt Celts

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 07:07 PM
https://scontent.fhsv1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/26134988_317641562085622_1348710129_n.png?oh=6554f 518507961a20d48b58cbcd1113a&oe=5A495F73

Decius
12-29-2017, 07:13 PM
https://scontent.fhsv1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/26134988_317641562085622_1348710129_n.png?oh=6554f 518507961a20d48b58cbcd1113a&oe=5A495F73

I wonder were the south central euro came for you, the small bit of southwest makes sense though its likely Iberian and ive seen people from the british isles get some Iberian on DNA results.

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 07:16 PM
I wonder were the south central euro came for you, the small bit of southwest makes sense though its likely Iberian and ive seen people from the british isles get some Iberian on DNA results.

probably poland or czech or some shit

greasycaveman
12-29-2017, 07:17 PM
so thats total 70% slavic, if its a country like poland or czech republic or hungary

Decius
12-29-2017, 07:22 PM
so thats total 70% slavic, if its a country like poland or czech republic or hungary

The myheritage one is absolute BS it's still beta and the results of myheritage don't make any sense

Bosniensis
12-29-2017, 07:49 PM
because you score north atlantic + north sea =10% in eurogenes k36
you got northwest european genes and it goes again and again both in dna land and the 10% west europe in ancestery .
tell me there where ever celtic tribes in serbia ?

Celts are known in Serbia and Bosnia, tribe name: Scordisci (Sardi) settled in Bosnia North and Šumadija region Serbia.

Dick
12-29-2017, 11:04 PM
Did they assign you to a specific genetic community? Ancestrydna assigned me to a genetic community called "northeast Italy, croatia, bosnia". Odd name since it seems to encompass more than just those ethnicities mentioned.

https://i.imgur.com/ha1q0Tg.jpg

Decius
12-29-2017, 11:13 PM
Did they assign you to a specific genetic community? Ancestrydna assigned me to a genetic community called "northeast Italy, croatia, bosnia". Odd name since it seems to encompass more than just those ethnicities mentioned.

https://i.imgur.com/ha1q0Tg.jpg

No I didn't which is strange. How much west euro did you score