Classify Black sea man (north turkey)

[teodor11]

https://i.hizliresim.com/ZOvPB0.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/Gy6OMy.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/V3o1Wq.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/9DMPPQ.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/NOaRRP.jpg

[Seya]

He looked a bit out of place. This is what u get if u mix a scandinavian with a north caucasian imo

[Vlatko Vukovic]

https://i.hizliresim.com/ZOvPB0.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/Gy6OMy.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/V3o1Wq.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/9DMPPQ.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/NOaRRP.jpg

his ethnicity?

[Bornoz]

Arkadaş Kafkas göçmeni olabilir mi? Benim anne tarafına benziyor baya da.

[decordoba]

North Caucasian (Circassian,...)

[Bornoz]

North Caucasian (Circassian,...)

Is this the type that comes to your mind when you think about Circassians?

[decordoba]

Right - but there are more ethnics living north of Caucasus (Chechens,...)

[Grab the Gauge]

North Caucasian (Circassian,...)

That's not a race, you idiot.

Just say Nordic. He's fucking Nordic. Nordic is one of the primary founding races of Turks.

How hard is it for you Bolshevized Euro cowards to just say the word "Nordic"?

[Bornoz]

Of course he may be Circassian too but his chance of being Circassian is not more than being Turkish. Especially if he is from Blacksea region.

[RN97]

He looked a bit out of place. This is what u get if u mix a scandinavian with a north caucasian imo

I don't see the caucucasus, he looks Scando

[Visitor_22]

That's not a race, you idiot.

Just say Nordic. He's fucking Nordic. Nordic is one of the primary founding races of Turks.

How hard is it for you Bolshevized Euro cowards to just say the word "Nordic"?


No offence, but...


https://media.giphy.com/media/JuRu1REFvrDAQ/giphy.gif

[decordoba]

Look at the pics of North Caucasians you will find a lookalike to him ;)

And in Turkey you can find a lot of phenotypes as a result of the Ottoman Empire - even Europeans of the eastern part of Europe. North Europe is far away - but the circumstances are sometimes confused.

[teodor11]

Arkadaş Kafkas göçmeni olabilir mi? Benim anne tarafına benziyor baya da.

Arkadaş rizeli, Laz -gürcü belki çerkes. bilemiyorum.

Laz'mış.

[Grab the Gauge]

No offence, but...


https://media.giphy.com/media/JuRu1REFvrDAQ/giphy.gif

Nordics are a founding race of Turks. You are a 21-year old mischling with a chipped shoulder.

No offense taken from a third world ingrate. Impossible for you to offend me.

[teodor11]

his ethnicity?


He is Laz and from Rize (northeast turkey)

[spik]

Looks more Icelandic than Turkish.

[Grab the Gauge]

And in Turkey you can find a lot of phenotypes as a result of the Ottoman Empire -

Incorrect, his racial type goes back thousands of years in the region. It's okay for you to say this, the police won't bust down your door and haul you to jail as you fear they will.

[Visitor_22]

Now back to OP's question... Man does look European, mostly Norther European.


Looking at how diverse turkish people are I wonder how the f*ck they all adopted Oguz Turkic language? Cause obviously most of them clearly aren't descendents of Oguz Turks from Central Asia...

http://www.albawaba.com/sites/default/files/im/muhannad-turkish-actor.jpg



Damn mighty & superrior Oguz Turks, what they've done in Anatolia doe!

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/members-of-the-turkmen-peoples-council-attend-turkmenistans-oath-picture-id73344407

[decordoba]

A Circassian man - Черкес

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e2/21/53/e22153077f5d861b6a0338434110ddc1.jpg

[Grab the Gauge]

Looks more Icelandic than Turkish.

He looks Turkish, idiot.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZmEHvsZqRkY/maxresdefault.jpg

[spik]

He looks Turkish, idiot.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZmEHvsZqRkY/maxresdefault.jpg

He looks Serbian. Most of the Nordic ones amongst Turks originate from European slaves (e.g. the guy above).

[Grab the Gauge]

Now back to OP's question... Man does look European, mostly Norther European.


Looking at how diverse turkish people are I wonder how the f*ck they all switched & adopted Oguz language,

Those people were originally Nordic too, idiot. Central Asia always had more Nordics than Europe. The whole steppe used to be MAJORITY Nordic. Still many descendants there today.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

He looks Turkish, idiot.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZmEHvsZqRkY/maxresdefault.jpg

Sultan's are result of mixing with European women. Your Albanian knowledge is equal to zero.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Central Asia always had more Nordics than Europe.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/CoDp6NnSmItoY/200.gif

https://m.popkey.co/896f78/Zozl_f-maxage-0_s-200x150.gif

[Visitor_22]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/CoDp6NnSmItoY/200.gif



He lives in his own delusional World... Leave him alone. lol

[Grab the Gauge]

Sultan's are result of mixing with European women. Your Albanian knowledge is equal to zero.

Incorrect, they are a mixture of R1a Nordic men mixing with East Eurasian and West Eurasian women.

[Marmara]

Incorrect, they are a mixture of R1a Nordic men mixing with East Eurasian and West Eurasian women.

You are playing really big this time, I look forward to see you claim original Chinese were Nordic.

[Porn Master]

he looks indeed a mix of N Caucasus. Most North Caucasus people are ANE like Uralic and Siberians, they're even more closer to fresh looking Nordics than to MENA ethniks

[Grab the Gauge]

HAHA, that's sad, denying you are round. So you have already internalized it as a bad thing, okay. Whatever you say, buddy.



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Poppin_Fresh_%28Pillsbury_Doughboy%29.jpg

[RN97]

You are playing really big this time, I look forward to see you claim original Chinese were Nordic.

Without joking, nordicists do believe that Japanese or Chinese civilization (don't remember which one) originated with nordics

[Marmara]

Without joking, nordicists do believe that Japanese or Chinese civilization (don't remember which one) originated with nordics

I know I've seen it before, and they laugh when Blacks claim Egypt.

[Grab the Gauge]

Without joking, nordicists do believe that Japanese or Chinese civilization (don't remember which one) originated with nordics

Can't even remember which one, can't even make the judgment to decide which one it probably is, yet you feel so confident just spouting bullshit on the forum.

What is it with Romanians and Suth Slavs and the jarring disparity between their verbal memory and their verbal anus? No wonder everybody hates you fools.

Here's a wild idea; why not just STFU?

[RN97]

Can't even remember which one, can't even make the judgment to decide which one it probably is, yet you feel so confident just spouting bullshit on the forum.

What is it with Romanians and Suth Slavs and the jarring disparity between their verbal memory and their verbal anus? No wonder everybody hates you fools.

Here's a wild idea; why not just STFU?

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t31425/
https://forums.skadi.info/showthread.php?t=65220

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Incorrect, they are a mixture of R1a Nordic men mixing with East Eurasian and West Eurasian women.

Incorrect, none of them looked Nordic.

[Grab the Gauge]

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t31425/
https://forums.skadi.info/showthread.php?t=65220

Wow, you sure fetched those links for me real fast-like. Good boy, now go find me the mainstream scholar who disagrees with any of this. You are trying to make it sound as if Nordicists quoting mainstream academic research is somehow "Nordcism".

[Grab the Gauge]

Incorrect, none of them looked Nordic.

It is indeed a fact that the Ottoman dynasty was R1a, going all the way back to Osman I. Most of them were indeed Nordic, all were western Scythian phenotypes.

[Marmara]

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t31425/
https://forums.skadi.info/showthread.php?t=65220

Off to Chinaland :vikingship::viking1::viking1:

[Böri]

Ethnicity Kartvelian likely.
Sub Nordid + minor Armenoid.

[Trilecce]

...

A goth. Not native to the black sea.

[Полковник 95]

He looks Anatolian from the Black Sea. Not North Caucasian. He would pass rather in Georgia and the Balkans (Romania, Bosnia, Albania).

[Marmara]

It is indeed a fact that the Ottoman dynasty was R1a, going all the way back to Osman I. Most of them were indeed Nordic, all were western Scythian phenotypes.

Here is an Aleppan Mamluk, maybe you were right after all?

http://lex.staticserver2.com/static/en/800/mamluk.jpg
I also heard Mamluk sultan Baibars was a 2 meters tall blonde blue eyed man.

[Grab the Gauge]

Black Sea Nordics, 4th centhry BC:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Scythian_Warriors.jpg/700px-Scythian_Warriors.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Here is an Aleppan Mamluk, maybe you were right after all?

http://lex.staticserver2.com/static/en/800/mamluk.jpg
I also heard Mamluk sultan Baybars was a 2 meters tall blonde blue eyed man.

Do you really believe that Ottoman dynasty was Nordic hahah :D ?

Btw. this photo of Mamluk sultan is a fairytale of painter.

[Marmara]

Do you really believe that Ottoman dynasty was Nordic hahah :D ?

Btw. this photo of Mamluk sultan is a fairytale of painter.

Of course not, lol

[Grab the Gauge]

Here is an Aleppan Mamluk, maybe you were right after all?

http://lex.staticserver2.com/static/en/800/mamluk.jpg
I also heard Mamluk sultan Baybars was a 2 meters tall blonde blue eyed man.

Yes. Many Nordics among the Mamluks.



Ottomans also had a lot of blue eyed blond/red haired Dinaric/Noric Albanians.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Real Nordic example (Alexandr Bukharov);

http://pics.kinokadr.ru/photoes/2005/08/16/young_volkodav/01.jpg

http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/626/248853.jpg

Fairytales of Grab the Gauges aren't important.

[Grab the Gauge]

Real Nordic example (Alexandr Bukharov);

http://pics.okadr.ru/photoes/2005/08/16/young_volkodav/01.jpg

http://www.kino-teatr.ru/ar/album/626/248853.jpg

Fairytales of Grab the Gauges aren't important.


That guy isn't Nordic, you dumbass. He is a Trondelagen-Baltic mix, with probable Ladogan admixture. He doesn't even look normal. Stop posting already, you are polluting the forum with the byproducts of your sub-90 IQ.

[Hadouken]

Lazuri-oid

[Böri]

He has Armenoid admixture. In that sense he looks typical light Laz-Georgian. South Caucasus race. Nothing exceptional.

[Hadouken]

yok artik böri :lol:

[Vlatko Vukovic]

It is indeed a fact that the Ottoman dynasty was R1a, going all the way back to Osman I. Most of them were indeed Nordic, all were western Scythian phenotypes.

So what? They were R1a-Z93. Benjamin Natanyahu is also R1a-Z93. Is he Nordic?

[Grab the Gauge]

Real Nordic example (Alexandr Bukharov);

http://pics.kinokadr.ru/photoes//08/16/young_volkodav/01.jpg

http://www.kino-tearu/acter/album/626/248853.jpg

Fairytales of Grab the Gauges aren't important.

LMFAO I can't believe this little South Slav punk wants to pass this Mexican-looking motherfucker off as Nordic. He looks like a depigmented Mexican American serial killer named Richard Ramirez. Who his this guy and which country is he from?



https://www.crimemuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ramirez_108a-252x300.jpg

[Vlatko Vukovic]

That guy isn't Nordic, you dumbass. He is a Trondelagen-Baltic mix, with probable Ladogan admixture. He doesn't even look normal. Stop posting already, you are polluting the forum with the byproducts of your sub-90 IQ.

He is. Your bullshit replies are not important. You never posted some examples becouse you are troll. My IQ is of course higher than your. That's obvious.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

LMFAO I can't believe this little South Slav punk wants to pass this Mexican-looking motherfucker off as Nordic. He looks like a depigmented Mexican American serial killer named Richard Ramirez. Who his this guy and which country is he from?



https://www.crimemuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ramirez_108a-252x300.jpg

Very wrong. He doesn't look like him at all.

Guy is Russian, from Russia.

[Grab the Gauge]

He is. Your bullshit replies are not important.

Yet somehow, you find the need to respond to every single one of them. Rapidly..

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Yet somehow, you find the need to respond to every single one of them. Rapidly..

That's becouse i am bored. That isn't becouse of your correct claims. Interesting is that Turks who are clear Turanid, for you are Nordic, and these who are clear Nordic, for you are Baltic, Med, Ladogan, etc.. etc...

[Grab the Gauge]

That's becouse i am bored. That isn't becouse of your correct claims. Interesting is that Turks who are clear Turanid, for you are Nordic, and these who are clear Nordic, for you are Baltic, Med, Ladogan, etc.. etc...

Which Turks are Turanid, my son? Certainly none of the Ottoman portraits I posted. Do you know what a Turanid looks like? Sorry, but you know nothing and it wohldn't matter if we could teach you, because your brain does not work.


Looking forward to this "bored" Bosnian's next emotionally-laden response...

[Hudayar]

There are some Lazes who are blond and look like that

There was a Laz friend of mine and i thought he was from Europe when i first saw him.

[Hudayar]

It is indeed a fact that the Ottoman dynasty was R1a, going all the way back to Osman I. Most of them were indeed Nordic, all were western Scythian phenotypes.

Ottoman dynasty was J2

also haplogroups have nothing to do wity phenotype or genotype. If all R1a were blond nordics then Kyrgyz people would look like Russians instead of Mongolians

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Which Turks are Turanid, my son? Certainly none of the Ottoman portraits I posted. Do you know what a Turanid looks like? Sorry, but you know nothing and it wohldn't matter if we could teach you, because your brain does not work.


Looking forward to this "bored" Bosnian's next emotionally-laden response...

https://i.hizliresim.com/8Nq7ZQ.jpg

You classified this man as Keltic Nordic. Do you even know how that sounds ridiculous? While this man is 100% Turanid. Fat head like the man in your avatar, and also like the men which i posted are typical for Turanid men. As i said, your knowledge is equal to 0.

[Hudayar]

Now back to OP's question... Man does look European, mostly Norther European.


Looking at how diverse turkish people are I wonder how the f*ck they all adopted Oguz Turkic language? Cause obviously most of them clearly aren't descendents of Oguz Turks from Central Asia...

http://www.albawaba.com/sites/default/files/im/muhannad-turkish-actor.jpg



Damn mighty & superrior Oguz Turks, what they've done in Anatolia doe!

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/members-of-the-turkmen-peoples-council-attend-turkmenistans-oath-picture-id73344407

The first guy you posted is a Bosnian

Second, If you have ever been in my genetic threads (I'm posting Turkish gedmatch results) you might understand why Turks "adopted" Oghuz Turkic language and culture. Because Turks have strong genetic influence from Turkmenistan or Oghuz Turks. But also local Anatolian influence at the same time. Also phenotype=/=genotype

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Ottoman dynasty was J2

also haplogroups have nothing to do wity phenotype or genotype. If all R1a were blond nordics then Kyrgyz people would look like Russians instead of Mongolians

He is just trolling, and trying to hide it.

[Grab the Gauge]

Ottoman dynasty was J2

also haplogroups have nothing to do wity phenotype or genotype. If all R1a were blond nordics then Kyrgyz people would look like Russians instead of Mongolians

Ottoman dynasty was R1a, there is no genetic evidence connecting J2 to Ottoman royal descendants.

Nice logic, R1a can't be Nordic if Kyrgyz aren't Nordic with East Eurasian maternal haplogroups. Despite the fact we already know the men they inherited R1a from were Nordic Scythians.

Why feel the need to point this out anyway, if the Ottoman dynasty wasn't R1a?

[Grab the Gauge]

https://i.hizli.com/8Nq7ZQ.jpg

You classified this man as Keltic Nordic. Do you even know how that sounds ridiculous? While this man is 100% Turanid. Fat head like the man in your avatar, and also like the men which i posted are typical for Turanid men. As i said, your knowledge is equal to 0.

The South Slav monkey shows his emotionally-intensive concern and complete lack of visual-spatial intelligence yet again.

[Hudayar]

Ottoman dynasty was R1a, there is no genetic evidence connecting J2 to Ottoman royal descendants.

Nice logic, R1a can't be Nordic if Kyrgyz aren't Nordic with East Eurasian maternal haplogroups. Despite the fact we already know the men they inherited R1a from were Nordic Scythians.

Why feel the need to point this out anyway, if the Ottoman dynasty wasn't R1a?

http://i58.tinypic.com/2q2i89l.jpg
http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=sultan&viewuid=94A9M&p=0

[Hudayar]

deleted

[Grab the Gauge]

He is just trolling, and trying to hide it.

Now you are responding to other people's responses to my posts. Some "bored" South Slav you are, my little monkey.

[Grab the Gauge]

http://i58.tinypm/2q2i89l.jpg
http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=sultan&viewuid=94A9M&p=0

There person is not an Ottoman dynasty descendant.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Now you are responding to other people's responses to my posts. Some "bored" South Slav you are, my little monkey.

And, you are insulting, when you don't have other answer. Your classifications are in the least hand, catastrophic.

[Grab the Gauge]

And, you are insulting, when you don't have other answer. Your classifications are on in the least hand, catastrophic.

You thought a Ladogan-EastBaltic mixed guy was Nordic. What other answer can I possibly give? Like all the South Slav users here, your behavior reminds me of a chimpanzee.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

You thought a Ladogan-EastBaltic mixed guy was Nordic. What other answer can I possibly give? Like all the South Slav users here, your behavior reminds me of a chimpanzee.

Guy hadn't any Ladogan admix, perhaps Baltic (minor). But that's the average of "Nordic-looking" man in Scandinavia.

What can i say then for you, who are classifying Turanid as Keltic Nordid? Is that normal?

[Hadouken]

The first guy you posted is a Bosnian



he is half balkan and half edirneli

his brother looks kurdish and armenian

http://www.medyatava.com/uploads/news/1321d815-32a9-4cdf-9f9d-b38e3c3a58d9.jpg

[Lavrentis]

Is he Kartvelian/Laz?

A lot of people don't know this, but European-looking Turks can have Laz ancestry instead of Balkan. Whenever people see a European-looking Turk they assume that he has ancestry from the Balkans but that's not true. Laz people can look European too


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[Massagetae]

Here is an Aleppan Mamluk, maybe you were right after all?

http://lex.staticserver2.com/static/en/800/mamluk.jpg
I also heard Mamluk sultan Baibars was a 2 meters tall blonde blue eyed man.

I thought Baybars was Nogai?

[Hadouken]

Is he Kartvelian/Laz?

A lot of people don't know this, but European-looking Turks can have Laz ancestry instead of Balkan. Whenever people see a European-looking Turk they assume that he has ancestry from the Balkans but that's not true. Laz people can look European too


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Laz are a small minority in turkey

"european looking turks" are in most cases just turks

some do have balkan roots but also circassian . laz less so . and laz are not exactly nordics btw. ..this guy is not that typical . many laz look just "normal" west asian. they can also often be "lighter" but more in the brown-light brown haired and a little lighter than average west asian skintone . it is not that they have 10000 blondes or something but however of course blondes are still not as rare as one might think either

a good example of what I meant was Kâzım Koyuncu (RIP) who was ethnic Laz and very typical for Laz people

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/473774033956139009/BBwCg38e_400x400.jpeg

https://i1.imgiz.com/data/artist3/Kaz%C4%B1m-Koyuncu.jpg

[Massagetae]

So what? They were R1a-Z93. Benjamin Natanyahu is also R1a-Z93. Is he Nordic?

Natanyahu is Khazar Turk. Guaranteed.

[Grab the Gauge]

Guy hadn't any Ladogan admix, perhaps Baltic (minor). But that's the average of "Nordic-looking" man in Scandinavia.


Ha ha ha... But you do know the Baltic race is mixed-Ladogan, correct?


https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate07.htm


The term East Baltic is properly applicable to a racial type of composite nature, found chiefly in northeastern Germany, Poland, the Baltic States, and Finland, although it also occurs sporadically in Sweden and elsewhere. It is a partially reduced Borreby derivative, with Ladogan and Nordic admixture.


Your "minor Baltic" Russian guy has the chopping-block features of this Lithuanian and the Mexican Richard Ramirez.






Fig. 4 (3 views). A Lithuanian from the region of Vilna, who shows the Ladogan affiliation of this type clearly.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe074.jpg

See, I knew you'd take that bait. This is why you need to take a ten year break from the forum and read the books I told you to read. You know know nothing, and pollute the forum with your posts.





What can i say then for you, who are classifying Turanid as Keltic Nordid? Is that normal?


Turanid, ha ha. What a fool. You have no clue. Get off the net and stop embarassing yourself like this. You are wasting your time -- and mine.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Natanyahu is Khazar Turk. Guaranteed.

but he isn't Nordic. Like my son, Grab the Gauge, wants to say.

[Böri]

Is he Kartvelian/Laz?

A lot of people don't know this, but European-looking Turks can have Laz ancestry instead of Balkan. Whenever people see a European-looking Turk they assume that he has ancestry from the Balkans but that's not true. Laz people can look European too


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There is no Euro looking Turk.
Blonde Turks look distinct and only look affinities with Finno Ugric.
Laz-Georgian Muslim people are different ethnos than Turks. Their light ones can pass as Balkan as result of Armenoid-Dinarid look overlap.
There is no Kartvelian whos 100% Armenoid but around 90% of them show some Armenoid traits. You should know.



I thought Baybars was Nogai?

Kipchak from West Kazakhstan. He was actually light.

[Pahli]

There is no Euro looking Turk.
Blonde Turks look distinct and only look affinities with Finno Ugric.
Laz-Georgian Muslim people are different ethnos than Turks. Their light ones can pass as Balkan as result of Armenoid-Dinarid look overlap.
There is no Kartvelian whos 100% Armenoid but around 90% of them show some Armenoid traits. You should know.




Kipchak from West Kazakhstan. He was actually light.

You have nothing in common with Finno-Ugrics, nice OWD.

[Lavrentis]

You have nothing in common with Finno-Ugrics, nice OWD.

I'm more surprised by how he saw Armenoid in the dude posted


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[Marmara]

I thought Baybars was Nogai?

He was a Kypchak, there was no Nogai back then. Modern Nogais are native Kypchaks + Turco-Mongols. Kypchaks prior to Mongol Conquest were probably a lot more Caucasoid, old Kypchak balbals were gradually Caucasoized (probably due to Scythian stock)in time for some reason until Mongol Conquest.

[Böri]

FU and Turkic people have historical contact points such as Idel region in Russia.
Ethnically we are distinct ofc. Nothing OWD. Just positive feelings and close urheimat (south and west Siberia) between Turks and FU.

[Pahli]

FU and Turkic people have historical contact points such as Idel region in Russia.
Ethnically we are distinct ofc. Nothing OWD. Just positive feelings and close urheimat (south and west Siberia) between Turks and FU.

IrAnIc PeOpLe HaD HiStoRiCaL CoNtAcT WiTh EuRoPeAns

It still doesn't make you similar to them, its funny why you keep trying to connect with them xD

[Grab the Gauge]

He was a Kypchak, there was no Nogai back then. Modern Nogais are native Kypchaks + Turco-Mongols. Kypchaks prior to Mongol Conquest were probably a lot more Caucasoid, old Kypchak balbals were gradually Caucasoized (probably due to Scythian stock)in time for some reason until Mongol Conquest.

Y-DNA does not support your Mongoloid conquest theory. In reality, it was Kypchak ancestor Scythian-like men marrying East Eurasian wives.

[Böri]

Chill down Kiro I just said light Turks look like them and not rest of Europe that doesnt mean same ethnicity. Beside none of your business.


He was a Kypchak, there was no Nogai back then. Modern Nogais are native Kypchaks + Turco-Mongols. Kypchaks prior to Mongol Conquest were probably a lot more Caucasoid, old Kypchak balbals were gradually Caucasoized (probably due to Scythian stock)in time for some reason until Mongol Conquest.

Kipchak were Turkic too.
Btw there were light Turks in east too like Yenisei Kyrgyz in south Siberia

[Hadouken]

IrAnIc PeOpLe HaD HiStoRiCaL CoNtAcT WiTh EuRoPeAns

It still doesn't make you similar to them, its funny why you keep trying to connect with them xD

he didnt

he just said that blonde turks look phenotypically closer to finno ugric people than to balkan people . and that FU and turks have some ancient connection . he didnt say turks = FU

and he also said that to him there are no "european looking" turks . so he didnt say anything owd

stop trying to find a hair in the soup the whole time and cause unnecessary flamewars

today is new year :cool:

[Marmara]

Y-DNA does not support your Mongol conquest theory. In reality, it was Scythian men marrying East Eurasian wives.

What is Y-DNA of Nogais i have no idea, but i'm talking in historic sense. Nogai is a mongolian word and Nogai Horde was founded by Turco-Mongols (Turkicized and İslamized Mongols)

[Grab the Gauge]

What is Y-DNA of Nogais i have no idea, but i'm talking in historic sense. Nogai is a mongolian word and Nogai Horde was founded by Turco-Mongols (Turkicized and İslamized Mongols)

Mostly West Eurasian J, R1b, etc. This chart is tenuous and actual frequency of West Eurasian DNA is likely higher.

http://i46.tinypic.com/28u4f47.jpg

[Pahli]

he didnt

he just said that blonde turks look phenotypically closer to finno ugric people than to balkan people . and that FU and turks have some ancient connection . he didnt say turks = FU

and he also said that to him there are no "european looking" turks . so he didnt say anything owd

stop trying to find a hair in the soup the whole time and cause unnecessary flamewars

today is new year :cool:

Then read my signature and you will understand. He has previously tried to connect himself with Europeans or FU people in one way or another. You don't need to defend him all the time. He is the type of guy that sees Kurds like genetical pest making it tough for him and his Turanid brothers in Turkey :(

I will maybe be nicer when we are in the new year, its still 2017.

[Marmara]

Mostly West Eurasian J, R1b, etc.

http://i46.tinypic.com/28u4f47.jpg

It's no surprise. Kypchaks were the majority in Golden Horde and Nogai Horde, that's why those were Turkicized despite being originally Mongolian, founded after Mongol Conquest.

[Hadouken]

Then read my signature and you will understand. He has previously tried to connect himself with Europeans or FU people in one way or another. You don't need to defend him all the time. He is the type of guy that sees Kurds like genetical pest making it tough for him and his Turanid brothers in Turkey :(

I will maybe be nicer when we are in the new year, its still 2017.

it is none of your or my business what he says though . let him think what he wants what do we have to do with him . I am not defending him it is just that it is nonsense for you to jump in and try to find every little thing to criticize him and then cause a meaningless and off topic flamewar that takes away the fun of taxonomy threads . I mean we are not in kindergarten behave lol

[Pahli]

it is none of your or my business what he says though . let him think what he wants what do we have to do with him . I am not defending him it is just that it is nonsense for you to jump in and try to find every little thing to criticize him and then cause a meaningless and off topic flamewar that takes away the fun of taxonomy threads . I mean we are not in kindergarten behave lol

Sure but when he hijacks my threads and starts shitposting you say nothing. I don't care.

[Hadouken]

Sure but when he hijacks my threads and starts shitposting you say nothing. I don't care.

lol how often have I argued with that guy :D

also you barely open threads

now enough with the kindergarten fagget

[Turkminator]

He is a pure Nordic Turk, a Turkish R1a-Conquerer from the deep steppes, beyond the Oxus. Probably a direct descendant of the Ottoman warrior race.

[Kouros]

He looks Turkish, idiot.


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZmEHvsZqRkY/maxresdefault.jpg

He is like 10% Turkic invader by descent at best. His mother was fully European born to an Orthodox priest and his father was half Tatar or Circassian, part Albanian, part Pontic Greek, part Serbian or Jewish, among other things.

[Marmara]

He is a pure Nordic Turk, a Turkish R1a-Conquerer from the deep steppes, beyond the Oxus. Probably a direct descendant of the Ottoman warrior race.

What exactly is Norse about you? Is this supposed to be a joke? You look ridiculous.

[Turkminator]

What exactly is Norse about you? Is this supposed to be a joke? You look ridiculous.

My DNA is to a significant extent Nordic - like all R1a carriers. However, these are racial dimensions that an Arab from Urfa would not understand. I could rather teach a cow the quantum physics than talk with an Arab about something like this.

[Lavrentis]

My DNA is to a significant extent Nordic - like all R1a carriers. However, these are racial dimensions that an Arab from Urfa would not understand. I could rather teach a cow the quantum physics than talk with an Arab about something like this.

What branch of R1a do you belong to? There are some Germanic branches afaik but R1a is mostly found in Slavs, Iranians, Afghans and Central Asians


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[Böri]

'Anatolian' boy turned Norse lover after we said the word Anatoly is Greek and just means 'sunrise'.

I would not be surprised if your r1a Kurdish dude Demhatoid.

R1 has Pashtun branch too. And the Norse people are I y-dna, Scandinavians aren't primarily R1a or R1b.

[Lavrentis]

after we said the word Anatoly is Greek and just means 'sunrise'.

Anatoli also means East


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[Böri]

Anatoli also means East


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East or Sunrise.
It's just a Greek word and people want to impose us that word as our identity.
That's silly.

Anatoly is also a Russian boy name... But ultimately Greek origin word.

[Marmara]

My DNA is to a significant extent Nordic - like all R1a carriers. However, these are racial dimensions that an Arab from Urfa would not understand. I could rather teach a cow the quantum physics than talk with an Arab about something like this.

The main Norse haplogroup is I1 and Norses have high WHG. Unless you lack one of these you look nothing more than a OWD and don't call me an Arab when you try to be something else.

[Kouros]

As for classification, Nordid

[Kouros]

My DNA is to a significant extent Nordic - like all R1a carriers. However, these are racial dimensions that an Arab from Urfa would not understand. I could rather teach a cow the quantum physics than talk with an Arab about something like this.

You unironically look 100x more 'Arab' then Marmara. Marmara looks fully Turkish.

[Grab the Gauge]

The main Norse haplogroup is I1 and Norses have high WHG. Unless you lack one of these you look nothing more than a OWD and don't call me an Arab when you try to be something else.

LMFAO, what a dumbass. R1 is the predominant haplogroup in Nordic countries and I1 was Cro Magnoid. The purest Nordics (western Scythians) had zero WHG.

Orhan, Turkish Nordic ruler:



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Murad_I-Manyal_Palace_Museum.jpg/468px-Murad_I-Manyal_Palace_Museum.jpg

[Marmara]

LMFAO, what a dumbass. R1 is the predominant haplogroup in Nordic countries and I1 was Cro Magnoid. The purest Nordics (western Scythians) had zero WHG.

Orhan, Turkish Nordic ruler:



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Murad_I-Manyal_Palace_Museum.jpg/468px-Murad_I-Manyal_Palace_Museum.jpg

Modern Scandinavians are mostly WHG of I haplogroup. They are conquered and subjugated by swarthy Indo Europeans.

[jackrussell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73a-hMlVgk

[Grab the Gauge]

He is like 10% Turkic invader by descent at best. His mother was fully European born to an Orthodox priest and his father was half Tatar or Circassian, part Albanian, part Pontic Greek, part Serbian or Jewish, among other things.

Lmao, bunch of Greek bullshit. You act like his father needs to be mixed with southeastern Europeans when his father was already descended from Nordic Turks of Scythian R1 extraction. How would being part Greek make him lighter when Greeks and South Slavs are already darker than Turks.

[Marmara]

Lmao, bunch of Greek bullshit. You act like his father needs to be mixed with southeastern Europeans when his father was already descended from Nordic Turks of Scythian R1 extraction. How would being part Greek make him lighter when Greeks and South Slavs are already darker than Turks.

Oh boy, wvwvw should have been here.

[Grab the Gauge]

Modern Scandinavians are mostly WHG of I haplogroup. They are conquered and subjugated by swarthy Indo Europeans.

LOL, wrong. I1 is a minority haplogroup in northern Europe and the Indo Europeans who invaded (Corded Ware) were blond and blue eyed. I1 was actually still swarthy when Proto Indo Europeans showed up.

[Marmara]

LOL, wrong. I1 is a minority haplogroup in northern Europe and the Indo Europeans who invaded (Corded Ware) were blond and blue eyed. I1 was actually still swarthy when Proto Indo Europeans showed up.

Here is how an average Ottoman women looked like, and she does have the typical characteristics of the Royal family.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNlKMcBdas_0lXyQK6z7PK2CEiWacpy nbPVAry8kR3-NLBPxP-501u1YL4

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6JrWuFbkYn8/maxresdefault.jpg

[Kouros]

Lmao, bunch of Greek bullshit. You act like his father needs to be mixed with southeastern Europeans when his father was already descended from Nordic Turks of Scythian R1 extraction. How would being part Greek make him lighter when

His southeast European ancestry was minimal and it's doubtful he even had Greek ancestry. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he was half Polish or Russian and 1/4th Tatar or Circassian... :lmao

By the way what DOES a nordic look like? Everybody and nobody is a nordic according to you. I just want to know what a nordic looks like is all...


Greeks and South Slavs are already darker than Turks.

epic win sir !!!

[Grab the Gauge]

His southeast European ancestry was minimal and it's doubtful he even had Greek ancestry. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he was half Polish or Russian and 1/4th Tatar or Circassian... :lmao

By the way what DOES a nordic look like? Everybody and nobody is a nordic according to you. I just want to know what a nordic looks like is all...



epic win sir !!!


Stop talking and start listening.

[Grab the Gauge]

Here is how an average Ottoman women looked like, and she does have the typical characteristics of the Royal family.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNlKMcBdas_0lXyQK6z7PK2CEiWacpy nbPVAry8kR3-NLBPxP-501u1YL4

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6JrWuFbkYn8/maxresdefault.jpg

LOL, laughable.

[Kouros]

Stop talking and start listening.

Post a Nordic please.

[Newsboy]

He can pass throughout Northern Europe, from the British Isles to the Baltic States. Most typical probably in Germany or Austria.

[user_]

https://i.hizliresim.com/ZOvPB0.jpg

https://i.hizliresim.com/NOaRRP.jpg

This guy looks fucking Georgian, nothing nordic, just light black sea type.
He probably is Laz, north eastern part of Turkey is the place where lightest Turks live, and this "turks" are just assimilated Laz and Georgians.

And he definitely do not look North Caucasian, best place to fit is West Georgia.

[Hudayar]

This guy looks fucking Georgian, nothing nordic, just light black sea type.
He probably is Laz, north eastern part of Turkey is the place where lightest Turks live, and this "turks" are just assimilated Laz and Georgians.

OP already mentioned that he's Laz lol

[Odin]

North Pontid.

[Benim]

Iranian-nordoid + pontid.

[Friedrich Ulrich]

Circassian

[Friedrich Ulrich]

Arkadaş Kafkas göçmeni olabilir mi? Benim anne tarafına benziyor baya da.

Çerkez aq

[Kyp]

Irano Nordoid

[Sora]

North Pontid + Med