In which parts of Greece could this Bulgarian fit?

[Sikeliot]

I post him every so often.

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[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Has Greece that much variety? It is a country with about the same population and area as Portugal. Whenever a guy can pass in Portugal that means he can pass in all regions and will be taken as a native in all regions.

[Sikeliot]

Has Greece that much variety? It is a country with about the same population and area as Portugal. Whenever a guy can pass in Portugal that means he can pass in all regions and will be taken as a native in all regions.


There are trends. The north looking more Balkan, the south more generally South European, and the islands more like Sicilians and south Italians. But I want to know which regions this guy can fit in, if any. Or all?

[Queen B]

Has Greece that much variety? It is a country with about the same population and area as Portugal. Whenever a guy can pass in Portugal that means he can pass in all regions and will be taken as a native in all regions.
Νο, there isn't much variety.
And I speak for experience since I have lived in several places around Greece. I think I have way better idea than people that have not step a foot in Greece - ever.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Νο, there isn't much variety.
And I speak for experience since I have lived in several places around Greece. I think I have way better idea than people that have not step a foot in Greece - ever.

Some regions that were mentioned are not even one hundred kilometres apart so I was wondering how can it be that they have noticeable differences on phenotype.

[Queen B]

Some regions that were mentioned are not even one hundred kilometres apart so I was wondering how can it be that they have noticeable differences on phenotype.Ιt can't.

[Sikeliot]

Ιt can't.

Well then does the guy pictured pass in Greece?

[Sikeliot]

Νο, there isn't much variety.
And I speak for experience since I have lived in several places around Greece. I think I have way better idea than people that have not step a foot in Greece - ever.

They do have variety. Mainlanders don't have Arab or Middle Eastern features like some of the outlying islands.

[Papastratosels26]

I post him every so often.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7yd6nAIAAAqpaa.jpg
https://cdn.cinepapaya.com/stat/img/static-cp/cine/person/stanislav-ianevski-headshot-1475182364.jpg?w=300
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http://cyber-breeze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/stanislav-lanevski.jpg
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Epirus,Macedonia,Trace and Thessaly my opinion

[Sikeliot]

Epirus,Macedonia,Trace and Thessaly my opinion

Is Peloponnese impossible or could he pass there, even if not as well?

[Queen B]

They do have variety. Mainlanders don't have Arab or Middle Eastern features like some of the outlying islands.
They don't have. You can find exotic faces in every area.
I live here, I have lived everywhere, and more importantly, I'm very good at recognizing Greek faces.

[nevrikos]

Ιt can't.

Yes it can, greek Y-DNA is extremely diverse. People look different from village to village.

Makes sense taking in consideration the landscapes and history, let alone recent newcomers stretching from the deep of Caucasus and Romania to Egypt.

[Sikeliot]

Yes it can, greek Y-DNA is extremely diverse. People look different from village to village.

Makes sense taking in consideration the landscapes and history, let alone recent newcomers stretching from the deep of Caucasus and Romania to Egypt.

So which regions can the man in my post fit in?

[nevrikos]

So which regions can the man in my post fit in?

Western Greece, Thessaly, Peloponese, Crete. Areas with a lot of dinaricsization.

[Tooting Carmen]

There are trends. The north looking more Balkan, the south more generally South European, and the islands more like Sicilians and south Italians. But I want to know which regions this guy can fit in, if any. Or all?

For the umpteenth time, Balkans ARE in Southern Europe. Even leaving that aside, however, I don't see that strong an overlap between Greeks and Serbs/Croats, although there is more with Albanians, Bulgarians and possibly Romanians. Anyway, returning to the OP, he probably passes in all of Greece to some extent except perhaps the Dodecanese.

[Tooting Carmen]

Moreover, splitting up Greece into such minutiae and saying someone from a nearby country can pass in this region but not that one is precisely an example of the anthrotardism I was criticising in my thread the other day.

[Papastratosels26]

Is Peloponnese impossible or could he pass there, even if not as well?

Nahh,expect north peloponisos and that caution i say.Not 100% sure

[Vojnik]

I don't see why not all of Greece.

[Sikeliot]

Moreover, splitting up Greece into such minutiae and saying someone from a nearby country can pass in this region but not that one is precisely an example of the anthrotardism I was criticising in my thread the other day.

Oh get over it already. You're the one trying to turn the whole of Greece into Calabria when it is not.

[Tooting Carmen]

Oh get over it already. You're the one trying to turn the whole of Greece into Calabria when it is not.

Not so much like Calabria, granted, but probably much more like Apulia and Basilicata than like most Balkan countries bar possibly Albania and Bulgaria.

[Sikeliot]

Not so much like Calabria, granted, but probably much more like Apulia and Basilicata than like most Balkan countries bar possibly Albania and Bulgaria.

Apulia is closer yes because they have some Balkan ancestry too (some of which is Greek) but they still don't have enough to be fully comparable to most Greeks.

The other thing to remember is, the Greek regions that are actually similar to Calabria are islands with small populations. Ikaria has like 8000 people. Chios has 32,400. Kalymnos has 16,000 and so on. Greece overall has 5 million.

[KingOf]

imo he wouldn't be guessed as foreign anywhere in Greece

[Odin]

Macedonia.

[catgeorge]

Yes it can, greek Y-DNA is extremely diverse. People look different from village to village.

Makes sense taking in consideration the landscapes and history, let alone recent newcomers stretching from the deep of Caucasus and Romania to Egypt.

This forum is ridiculously annoying. People should take IQ tests before posting.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ro2ijOk8JWc/SC8zx6avGkI/AAAAAAAAADQ/7hL-UB7IwTQ/s1600/data.jpg

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Please use your IQ to decipher and explain how Thessaloniki and Chios sample is almost identicle and how Larissa plots close to Crete. The distances are so miniscule it keeps potato mushy brains second guessing themselves as they lack intelligence.

[nevrikos]

This forum is ridiculously annoying. People should take IQ tests before posting.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ro2ijOk8JWc/SC8zx6avGkI/AAAAAAAAADQ/7hL-UB7IwTQ/s1600/data.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ro2ijOk8JWc/SC82F6avGnI/AAAAAAAAADo/0hJFAXEVrmw/s1600/biplot.jpg

Please use your IQ to decipher and explain how Thessaloniki and Chios sample is almost identicle and how Larissa plots close to Crete. The distances are so miniscule it keeps potato mushy brains second guessing themselves as they lack intelligence.

E-V13 in Patras --> 44%

E-V13 in Agrinio 30 minutes away with boat --> 9%

Thessaloniki 3 times more R1a than Serres which is less than 2 hours with car

Larissa closer to Crete than Karditsa which is 1 hour away

etc etc etc


Greeks not only highly diverse but INBRED as fuck too

[catgeorge]

Just for the small brains that don't understand the above plot.

haplogroups I and R1a correlate poorly in relation to northern and eastern neighbours. The non existent correlation between I and R1a places the Greeks are Slavs hypothesis dead in the fucking water. I and R1a should correlate strongly if there is a Slavic basis of part of Northern Greeks

R1a could have arrived in at least two migration : the original Indo-European (Greek) arrival or the Slavic migrations (or both). But Balkan Slavs are much stronger in I than R1a, therefore considering the weak correlation with South Slavs it is the original PIE.

R1a is also important in Rethymnon, a Venetian foundation..

I is also poorly correlated in comparison with Commie Block neighbours stronger in the North also having good presence in the South/Aegean but irregularly.. Still it does seem to partly correlate with R1a in the North Greece. But not in the rest of the country, where it's normally much more important than R1a.

Some people look at percentages and get their pink panties in a knot and dismiss variances and correlations which at by large it does not correlate with North nor Eastern Europe as Greece's variance is PIE.