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ShomaliJunubi
01-08-2018, 12:24 PM
Any west asian/middle eastern people on this sub? If so post ur gedmatch results below for the eurogenes k13 calculator so we can compare!
Im of Iranian descent, half mazandarani (north of iran) and half southern persian from Fars/Bushehr provinces. my results are:
1 West_Asian 47.9
2 East_Med 24.57
3 South_Asian 12.19
4 Red_Sea 5.74
5 West_Med 3.26
6 Baltic 3.1
7 Sub-Saharan 1.78
8 North_Atlantic 0.78
9 Amerindian 0.68
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 12:38 PM
I am Kurdish from Turkey
1 West_Asian 36.06
2 East_Med 30.76
3 West_Med 8.27
4 South_Asian 6.84
5 Red_Sea 6.06
6 North_Atlantic 4.67
7 Baltic 2.74
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Siberian 1.29
10 East_Asian 1.21
11 Amerindian 0.82
I have kit numbers of other west asians and will post their results later at some point
ShomaliJunubi
01-08-2018, 12:43 PM
Pretty similar to eachother I must say, I just have a fair bit higher west asian component in comparison to you.
Pahli
01-08-2018, 12:46 PM
Feyli Kurd from Iran:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.72
2 East_Med 29.45
3 South_Asian 9.18
4 West_Med 6.35
5 Red_Sea 5.34
6 North_Atlantic 4.91
7 Baltic 1.81
8 Northeast_African 0.73
9 Siberian 0.62
10 East_Asian 0.38
11 Amerindian 0.3
12 Sub-Saharan 0.21
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 12:48 PM
Pretty similar to eachother I must say, I just have a fair bit higher west asian component in comparison to you.
Are we looking at the same ? There are other major differences :
I score more than double west med compared to yours
I score some north atlantid which you dont
Your south asian score is almost double/twice as much of mine
ShomaliJunubi
01-08-2018, 12:48 PM
Somebody tell me where our South Asian came from and when did it come.
Pahli
01-08-2018, 12:51 PM
Somebody tell me where our South Asian came from and when did it come.
Been there since Mesolithic era;
I1293 Iran Mesolithic [9100-8600 BC] (from Mazandaran province):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 72.81
2 South_Asian 10.5
3 East_Med 8.21
4 Sub-Saharan 6.57
5 Baltic 1.91
But most likely is a result of Neolithic Iranian migration, they had increased South Asian compared to the Mesolithic sample.
Marmara
01-08-2018, 12:53 PM
Somebody tell me where our South Asian came from and when did it come.
Dravidians were one of the first inhabitants of İran, it did not come from anywhere, South Asian had always existed there.
ShomaliJunubi
01-08-2018, 12:54 PM
Dravidians in iran? I consider my iranian history to be ok and I have no knowledge of dravidians in iran? Also what are ur gedmatch results like?
ShomaliJunubi
01-08-2018, 12:55 PM
6.57% sub saharan what?
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 12:57 PM
standard west asian person will get below 10% south asian . even though comfortably above noise level nothing that significant. other West Asians score also a few percent but if you score above 10% then the possibility that you have foreign mix (like Roma foer example) is high . Iranians score more than other west asians and can go up to 15% or so with average being around 10% which is no surprise regarding them being more eastern than us geographically
it is from central asia I think
Marmara
01-08-2018, 12:57 PM
Dravidians in iran? I consider my iranian history to be ok and I have no knowledge of dravidians in iran? Also what are ur gedmatch results like?
I didn't take the test.
Pahli
01-08-2018, 12:58 PM
Dravidians in iran? I consider my iranian history to be ok and I have no knowledge of dravidians in iran? Also what are ur gedmatch results like?
The Brahui people in Pakistan are descendants of neolithic Iranians that migrated from Western Iran towards India. These neolithic Iranians mixed with an aboriginal population which then gave birth to the term South Asian.
6.57% sub saharan what?
I'm not sure where that comes from, all old Iranian / Caucasian samples had sub saharan admixture, it could just be poor sampling, idk.
Marmara
01-08-2018, 01:00 PM
standard west asian will get below 10% south asian . other West Asians score also a few percent . Iranians can score more which is no surprise regarding them being more eastern than us
it is from central asia I think
It's not from Central Asia, all Middle-Easterners and Central Asians have the south asian admixture from a common source, Dravidians existed in İran and Central Asia before Neolithic farmers came and Indo-Europeans and Turkics invaded those territories.
Pahli
01-08-2018, 01:01 PM
It's not from Central Asia, all Middle-Easterners and Central Asians have the south asian admixture from a common source, Dravidians existed in İran and Central Asia before Neolithic farmers came and Indo-Europeans and Turkics invaded those territories.
I think it comes from those aboriginal people that lived mostly in India but also dwelled in Pakistan, Afghanistan and up to Iran.
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 01:03 PM
It's not from Central Asia, all Middle-Easterners and Central Asians have the south asian admixture from a common source, Dravidians existed in İran and Central Asia before Neolithic farmers came and Indo-Europeans and Turkics invaded those territories.
dravidian is linguistics . those people wouldnt have scored like the current dravidian speaking peoples . they were likely similar to baloch peoples or something
the couple of percents of south asian that west asians have is from central asian invaders . this seems to make the most sense
why are we talking about it anyway . why dont we talk about the west med score that peaks in southwest europe ? and also north atlantic and baltic etc. . why hung up on the south asian ? such double standards are funny
Marmara
01-08-2018, 01:04 PM
I think it comes from those aboriginal people that lived mostly in India but also dwelled in Pakistan, Afghanistan and up to Iran.
I heard Aborginials actually originally started to spread Asia from Iran, and were driven back by neolithics till to South India , some of them mixed with farmers so that's why their admixture still exist.
Pahli
01-08-2018, 01:06 PM
I heard Aborginials actually originally started to spread Asia from Iran, and were driven back by neolithics till to South India , some of them mixed with farmers so that's why their admixture still exist.
They started their journey from East Africa / Middle East but probably settled along the coasts, you can see traces of them in South East Asia too and they managed to reach Australia, so they have been many places. But there wasn't many of them, they were hunter gatherers and their population was nothing compared to the Iranian farmer communities that absorbed them.
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 01:12 PM
some other West Asians
Georgian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.16
2 East_Med 19.31
3 West_Med 9.54
4 North_Atlantic 6.61
5 Baltic 5.23
6 South_Asian 2.98
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
11 Oceanian 0.03
12 Siberian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 3.99
2 Abhkasian 5.63
3 Ossetian 7.81
4 Adygei 8.78
5 North_Ossetian 9.75
6 Balkar 11.24
7 Kumyk 12.68
8 Kabardin 12.73
9 Chechen 13.28
10 Lezgin 13.98
11 Kurdish 16.03
12 Tabassaran 16.19
13 Azeri 18.88
14 Iranian 19.12
15 Armenian 19.36
16 Turkish 21.79
17 Georgian_Jewish 22.38
18 Turkmen 23.45
19 Makrani 25.95
20 Assyrian 26.1
--
Georgian
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 50.58
2 East_Med 24.1
3 West_Med 8
4 Baltic 7.08
5 Red_Sea 2.89
6 South_Asian 2.85
7 North_Atlantic 2.73
8 Amerindian 1.5
9 Northeast_African 0.13
10 Oceanian 0.09
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 3.87
2 Abhkasian 5.25
3 Adygei 9.23
4 Ossetian 11.2
5 North_Ossetian 11.33
6 Kumyk 11.88
7 Kurdish 12.06
8 Balkar 12.59
9 Kabardin 13.85
10 Chechen 14.61
11 Lezgin 14.8
12 Iranian 15.06
13 Armenian 15.62
14 Azeri 15.69
15 Tabassaran 17.76
16 Georgian_Jewish 17.76
17 Turkish 19.22
18 Assyrian 21.73
19 Turkmen 22.45
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.1
----
Armenian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.13
2 West_Asian 35.35
3 West_Med 14.06
4 Red_Sea 6.34
5 South_Asian 3.53
6 North_Atlantic 3.09
7 Siberian 0.85
8 Baltic 0.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 3.72
2 Georgian_Jewish 4.76
3 Assyrian 5.1
4 Kurdish_Jewish 8.62
5 Iranian_Jewish 9.34
6 Turkish 9.72
7 Kurdish 11.08
8 Azeri 11.12
9 Lebanese_Muslim 12.2
10 Iranian 13.01
11 Syrian 14.34
12 Cyprian 15.23
13 Lebanese_Druze 16.94
14 Lebanese_Christian 17.07
15 Samaritan 18.57
16 Jordanian 19.18
17 Georgian 20.02
18 Palestinian 20.68
19 Abhkasian 21.15
20 Kumyk 21.38
----
Armenian
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.86
2 East_Med 34.4
3 West_Med 13.5
4 Red_Sea 6.38
5 South_Asian 2.99
6 Baltic 2.12
7 North_Atlantic 0.91
8 Amerindian 0.8
9 Sub-Saharan 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 2.6
2 Georgian_Jewish 4.35
3 Assyrian 7.46
4 Kurdish 9.52
5 Kurdish_Jewish 11
6 Azeri 11.12
7 Turkish 11.24
8 Iranian_Jewish 11.78
9 Iranian 11.93
10 Lebanese_Muslim 15.52
11 Georgian 16.75
12 Syrian 17.24
13 Abhkasian 17.75
14 Cyprian 18.61
15 Kumyk 19.49
16 Lebanese_Christian 20.17
17 Lebanese_Druze 20.25
18 Adygei 20.63
19 Samaritan 21.67
20 Jordanian 21.84
some other West Asians
Georgian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 53.16
2 East_Med 19.31
3 West_Med 9.54
4 North_Atlantic 6.61
5 Baltic 5.23
6 South_Asian 2.98
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
11 Oceanian 0.03
12 Siberian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 3.99
2 Abhkasian 5.63
3 Ossetian 7.81
4 Adygei 8.78
5 North_Ossetian 9.75
6 Balkar 11.24
7 Kumyk 12.68
8 Kabardin 12.73
9 Chechen 13.28
10 Lezgin 13.98
11 Kurdish 16.03
12 Tabassaran 16.19
13 Azeri 18.88
14 Iranian 19.12
15 Armenian 19.36
16 Turkish 21.79
17 Georgian_Jewish 22.38
18 Turkmen 23.45
19 Makrani 25.95
20 Assyrian 26.1
--
Georgian
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 50.58
2 East_Med 24.1
3 West_Med 8
4 Baltic 7.08
5 Red_Sea 2.89
6 South_Asian 2.85
7 North_Atlantic 2.73
8 Amerindian 1.5
9 Northeast_African 0.13
10 Oceanian 0.09
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 3.87
2 Abhkasian 5.25
3 Adygei 9.23
4 Ossetian 11.2
5 North_Ossetian 11.33
6 Kumyk 11.88
7 Kurdish 12.06
8 Balkar 12.59
9 Kabardin 13.85
10 Chechen 14.61
11 Lezgin 14.8
12 Iranian 15.06
13 Armenian 15.62
14 Azeri 15.69
15 Tabassaran 17.76
16 Georgian_Jewish 17.76
17 Turkish 19.22
18 Assyrian 21.73
19 Turkmen 22.45
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.1
----
Armenian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.13
2 West_Asian 35.35
3 West_Med 14.06
4 Red_Sea 6.34
5 South_Asian 3.53
6 North_Atlantic 3.09
7 Siberian 0.85
8 Baltic 0.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 3.72
2 Georgian_Jewish 4.76
3 Assyrian 5.1
4 Kurdish_Jewish 8.62
5 Iranian_Jewish 9.34
6 Turkish 9.72
7 Kurdish 11.08
8 Azeri 11.12
9 Lebanese_Muslim 12.2
10 Iranian 13.01
11 Syrian 14.34
12 Cyprian 15.23
13 Lebanese_Druze 16.94
14 Lebanese_Christian 17.07
15 Samaritan 18.57
16 Jordanian 19.18
17 Georgian 20.02
18 Palestinian 20.68
19 Abhkasian 21.15
20 Kumyk 21.38
----
Armenian
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.86
2 East_Med 34.4
3 West_Med 13.5
4 Red_Sea 6.38
5 South_Asian 2.99
6 Baltic 2.12
7 North_Atlantic 0.91
8 Amerindian 0.8
9 Sub-Saharan 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 2.6
2 Georgian_Jewish 4.35
3 Assyrian 7.46
4 Kurdish 9.52
5 Kurdish_Jewish 11
6 Azeri 11.12
7 Turkish 11.24
8 Iranian_Jewish 11.78
9 Iranian 11.93
10 Lebanese_Muslim 15.52
11 Georgian 16.75
12 Syrian 17.24
13 Abhkasian 17.75
14 Cyprian 18.61
15 Kumyk 19.49
16 Lebanese_Christian 20.17
17 Lebanese_Druze 20.25
18 Adygei 20.63
19 Samaritan 21.67
20 Jordanian 21.84
Share the Georgian numbers with me please. I wanna try other calcs.
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 01:22 PM
Share the Georgian numbers with me please. I wanna try other calcs.
I dont share other peoples kit nr. because i dont know if they would have anything against it
Just tell me what calc results you want to see
Pahli
01-08-2018, 01:23 PM
Can you try to post them in PuntDNAL K13?
I dont share other peoples kit nr. because i dont know if they would have anything against it
Just tell me what calc results you want to see
Come on, they don't know you. A kit number doesn't have any info except names and surnames (not always).
I would like to see Dodecad K12b.
Hadouken
01-08-2018, 01:28 PM
Can you try to post them in PuntDNAL K13?
added 2 more (all are Georgians)
1 West_Asia 49.02
2 SW_Europe 27.37
3 SW_Asia 11.21
4 NE_Europe 6.65
5 South_Asia 2.07
6 Siberia 1.35
7 SE_Asia 1.08
8 South_Africa 0.57
9 East_Africa 0.34
10 Americas 0.31
11 NE_Asia 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
1 Abkhasian 5.91
2 Turkish_Trabzon 7.8
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 8.74
4 Kurdish 8.89
5 Armenian 9.56
6 Ossetian 11.19
7 Dagestan_Azeri 11.42
8 Assyrian 11.64
9 Iranian 12.04
10 Turkish_Kayseri 13.23
11 Adygei 13.35
12 Balkar 15.08
13 Turkish 15.16
14 Lebanese_Druze 17.28
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.65
16 Turkish_Aydin 17.97
17 Syrian 18.58
18 Kumyk 18.67
19 Lebanese_Christian 19.13
20 Cypriot 19.48
--
1 West_Asia 47.74
2 SW_Europe 22.41
3 SW_Asia 12.18
4 NE_Europe 11.85
5 South_Asia 1.81
6 Americas 1.27
7 Siberia 1.02
8 Oceania 0.66
9 South_Africa 0.62
10 West_Africa 0.45
Single Population Sharing:
1 Abkhasian 3.2
2 Kurdish 6.24
3 Dagestan_Azeri 6.46
4 Azerbaijan_Azeri 7.24
5 Ossetian 7.32
6 Adygei 8.57
7 Iranian 9.08
8 Armenian 11.94
9 Turkish_Kayseri 12.47
10 Balkar 12.48
11 Turkish_Trabzon 13.07
12 Assyrian 13.45
13 Turkish 13.83
14 Chechen 13.97
15 Kumyk 14.15
16 Turkish_Aydin 15.48
17 Lebanese_Druze 18.14
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.33
19 Syrian 18.94
20 Lebanese_Christian 20.1
---
Admix Results (sorted):
1 West_Asia 49.18
2 SW_Europe 25.54
3 SW_Asia 12.14
4 NE_Europe 8.82
5 SE_Asia 2.23
6 South_Asia 0.98
7 South_Africa 0.56
8 Oceania 0.55
Single Population Sharing:
1 Abkhasian 4.61
2 Kurdish 7.79
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 8.57
4 Turkish_Trabzon 9.69
5 Armenian 9.88
6 Dagestan_Azeri 10.22
7 Ossetian 10.37
8 Iranian 11.22
9 Adygei 11.73
10 Assyrian 11.82
11 Turkish_Kayseri 13.34
12 Balkar 14.98
13 Turkish 15.01
14 Lebanese_Druze 17.44
15 Turkish_Aydin 17.69
16 Kumyk 17.69
17 Chechen 17.71
18 Lebanese_Muslim 17.75
19 Syrian 18.66
20 Lebanese_Christian 19.28
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1 West_Asia 49.96
2 SW_Europe 23.81
3 SW_Asia 14
4 NE_Europe 7.69
5 South_Asia 1.19
6 South_Africa 1.05
7 NE_Asia 0.85
8 Siberia 0.63
9 Americas 0.3
10 Oceania 0.26
11 West_Africa 0.21
12 East_Africa 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
1 Abkhasian 5.56
2 Kurdish 6.75
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 8.45
4 Armenian 9.21
5 Iranian 9.86
6 Turkish_Trabzon 10.12
7 Dagestan_Azeri 10.67
8 Assyrian 10.78
9 Ossetian 11.11
10 Adygei 13.06
11 Turkish_Kayseri 13.55
12 Turkish 15.63
13 Balkar 16.02
14 Lebanese_Druze 16.96
15 Lebanese_Muslim 17.1
16 Turkish_Aydin 18.09
17 Syrian 18.2
18 Kumyk 18.42
19 Chechen 18.77
20 Lebanese_Christian 18.9
Salem523
01-08-2018, 03:49 PM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.26
2 Red_Sea 23.88
3 South_Asian 16.95
4 West_Asian 7.7
5 Northeast_African 7.48
6 West_Med 4.85
7 Sub-Saharan 1.81
8 East_Asian 1.25
9 North_Atlantic 0.92
10 Oceanian 0.9
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