Post your eyes!

[Tarlus Magnus]

my brother's:
https://i.imgur.com/0v9NopR.jpgGood photo and nice eyes

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[dududud]

Very similar to mine and my mothers :)
Btw sorry if I quoted even tho you didnt want to I make thrse kind of mistakes often because im dyslexic
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Don't worry. It's not a problem.

[Samnium]

Predominantly green-blue (or gray I don't know really, so green parts>50% of the eye) with hazel/yellow spots

https://i.imgur.com/9eO5M2x.png

https://i.imgur.com/5l1phOe.png

https://i.imgur.com/nCyszmm.png

[Helen]

My fathers and my brothershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201030/3b208fd40a540c6fed9c6e408d86f757.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201030/81ef165826e54d7dcd76c5f3e3284161.jpg

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[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

https://i.imgur.com/iMLDOLR.jpg

[Tarlus Magnus]

Im honestly surprised the majority of people in this thread have hazel eyes since its not that common. It generally shows whoch countries came most people of this forum

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[Parça do Neymar]

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That's a hella seductive stare in the 2nd image, no homo.

[Samnium]

Im honestly surprised the majority of people in this thread have hazel eyes since its not that common. It generally shows whoch countries came most people of this forum

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Well, the forum is mainly european, so it's not surprising that a large portion of the members have eyes lighter than medium brown-light brown.

[mitalit]

https://i.gyazo.com/3e90bce4574b141c6c781c6719e89217.png

[Tarlus Magnus]

Well, the forum is mainly european, so it's not surprising that a large portion of the members have eyes lighter than medium brown-light brown.Ye but hazel aren't that common, its more common blue and light brown even in europeans

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[dududud]

Well, the forum is mainly european, so it's not surprising that a large portion of the members have eyes lighter than medium brown-light brown.

Non-sens my father is pure european (without levant neolithic, iran and caucasus farmer, and other) and have dark brown eyes.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Think I posted here but can't remember. They were green when I was born.

Edit: bet there's some autist out there who could probably geolocate me based on what you can see through the reflection in my eyes.

https://i.ibb.co/vBWZX9t/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[Samnium]

Non-sens my father is pure european (without levant neolithic, iran and caucasus farmer, and other) and have dark brown eyes.

Of course, I have similar examples in my family, I've said that's not surprising that here many people have a lighter iris than dark brown given european ancestry.

[Mixdguy17]

That's a hella seductive stare in the 2nd image, no homo.

Loll Thanks man! In reality I was burning my eyes off trying to keep them open for the pic XDXD.

[Ylla]

Excuse the bags under my eyes feeling rough 😂
https://i.postimg.cc/DypST6gc/Screenshot-20201030-200700.png

[Mortimer]

Just took another phone, that one of my mum it is a samsung, mine is a huawei

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/123218589_380768156304694_8555085527866802010_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=XaGlAEEVVjYAX-tKt5o&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=bd3cd8886f5d4d73cdb83952bcfe7d60&oe=5FC4BDA8

[Tarlus Magnus]

Just took another phone, that one of my mum it is a samsung, mine is a huawei

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/123218589_380768156304694_8555085527866802010_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=XaGlAEEVVjYAX-tKt5o&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=bd3cd8886f5d4d73cdb83952bcfe7d60&oe=5FC4BDA8Ive a huawei too

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[gixajo]

Think I posted here but can't remember. They were green when I was born.

Edit: bet there's some autist out there who could probably geolocate me based on what you can see through the reflection in my eyes.

rl]

Strada Ion Creanga, in front of Dendrariu park and near the university of the same name, Chisinau.:thumb001:

[Defcon2]

:)

https://i.imgur.com/NbSntaa.jpg

[Tarlus Magnus]

:)

https://i.imgur.com/NbSntaa.jpgLook very similar to mine

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[Übermensch]

https://scontent-fco1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/62483402_328085714780057_8445580595152551936_n.png ?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=lh2mk4nvhpkAX_geW6Y&_nc_ht=scontent-fco1-1.xx&oh=48fb46eb9ba7353c58123abf6e30d62b&oe=5FC901E8

[Ylla]

They're looking more green and I'm loving it 🙌
https://i.postimg.cc/022vVw0P/Air-Brush-20210719205426.jpg

[placebo]

https://i.imgur.com/Pu0omno.png
https://i.imgur.com/mXLBwLE.png

nothing special xd

[Gallop]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tFmfCdqRTSo/YPb0atey3gI/AAAAAAAAGf4/fHVmpZCGsq0bWY3JVCJfz7-aIuEM7OeBgCLcBGAsYHQ/s756/IMG_20190922_182913_819.jpg

[Arūnas]

Komi eyes

https://i.postimg.cc/V6HVNCRn/komieyes.jpg

[Asten]

[QUOTE=Ylla;7247741]They're looking more green and I'm loving it 🙌
i kena njejt ngjyra te syve po besoj.

[Arūnas]

Ylla, Asten... am I Albanian instead of VUR? :laugh:

[Cossack]

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[chinshen]

NA

[Ylla]

i kena njejt ngjyra te syve po besoj.
Really similar!!

[Coastal Elite]

Vlach eyes


https://i.imgur.com/NP8UQVV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/imgvJgW.jpg

[vandor]

https://i.ibb.co/BBCCGfX/6-BCA9366-6-C49-43-A3-A85-A-050356987128.jpg

[Paraguayo HFD]

Kind of medium or dark Hazel

http://imgfz.com/i/785q1WP.jpeg
http://imgfz.com/i/bGwpxQO.jpeg
http://imgfz.com/i/TL74fVQ.jpeg

[Ellethwyn]

I couldn't choose just one or two pics ;)
It's hard to capture color and shape.
Here's a whole bunch.

https://i.imgur.com/EZeaN2H.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/i5gbnvn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TpMs3Xm.jpg

Right eye
https://i.imgur.com/oNFzKIA.jpg

Left eye
https://i.imgur.com/5EoHVsL.jpg

[Malkowska]

Uhm, it's hazel I guess
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[gixajo]

My eyes are still the same as the last time I posted a picture of them.

https://i.imgur.com/Mqxzr2J.png

[Selene]

https://i.postimg.cc/TPJzWcMY/DSC-0188.jpg

[Ellethwyn]

hpostjpg

Stunning! Really reminds of the ocean, like your avatar... eyes of a Croatian mermaid:)

[Mortimer]

Your eyes are copperish brown
*Übermensch
Your eyes are not very dark brown
*Übermensch
They are brown with a copperish hint
*Übermensch
It is visible in the light

https://i.ibb.co/Rybj25S/glatzeprofil.jpg (https://ibb.co/bJmb1f3)
https://i.ibb.co/6ZWf9sM/Roman-Centurion2.jpg (https://ibb.co/DbRScKJ)
https://i.ibb.co/WsHXpMM/Roman-Centurion.jpg (https://ibb.co/d7fvJVV)
https://i.ibb.co/9YqP3hs/glatzeprofil-Eyes.jpg (https://ibb.co/ggDYFdz)
https://i.ibb.co/1MMBf63/Roman-Centurion2-Eyes.jpg (https://ibb.co/5kkCWFd)
https://i.ibb.co/SnFKpWm/Roman-Centurion-Eyes.jpg (https://ibb.co/3Ng0HGF)

[Mortimer]

https://i.ibb.co/cYPz0PD/Copperish-Brown-Eyes.jpg (https://ibb.co/3Rwt2wB)

[frabato]

green eyes
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[Flashball]

Mother:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWVKHJWXgAA_-ZX?format=png&name=360x360

Sister:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWVLxGkXwAAI19S?format=jpg&name=small

Myself:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWVOetIWQAA2f1O?format=jpg&name=small

Brother
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/26/2/1656444462-eyeshazel.jpg

[Ellethwyn]

What color should I say my eyes are? Blue? Green? A mix of both?

https://i.imgur.com/UY98hol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7EMw78W.jpg

[billErobreren]

https://i.ibb.co/NrXnHvk/Screenshot-20220918-213713-2.png

Can't help but think I've posted them before, either way, kinda grayish, I guess.

[khanx34]

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[White Swan]

What color should I say my eyes are? Blue? Green? A mix of both?

https://i.imgur.com/UY98hol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7EMw78W.jpg

I believe the most accurate term is hazel, even though hazel is ambiguous by nature, meaning a mix of colors but usually containing green. I'd call them "light hazel", and also, very pretty!

[bvnny]

https://i.looksmax.org/attachments/2022/09/3082061_WhatsApp_Image_2022-02-21_at_22.13.00.jpeg

My eyes are brown

[hurtuv]

I believe the most accurate term is hazel, even though hazel is ambiguous by nature, meaning a mix of colors but usually containing green. I'd call them "light hazel", and also, very pretty!

I was thinking just that.

[Ellethwyn]

I believe the most accurate term is hazel, even though hazel is ambiguous by nature, meaning a mix of colors but usually containing green. I'd call them "light hazel", and also, very pretty!

Ah, light hazel! Thank you!

[Ellethwyn]

Ah, light hazel! Thank you!

I always thought I had Central heterochromia, and never knew hazel includes some blue. After reading how to tell the difference between eyes with Central heterochromia and hazel eyes... I see now that they are indeed light hazel.

[Gallop]

Golden Eyes

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiwvTn4UKqEn98Po5lQLHY_ahKYH3V343RMHXCeunba8h OLURzpnkBpmq288KXCR7jMp5Md2Y4Jpwx7XVwGQEGJ41QjmErX NQM6v74pYOfki7mELJC0D99kxmHAhr1okXUpLHV5mvSwg9VNU9 yjsQJo5kA8GLSxKKDfSaZaCoP-On2C5Dgtiu9GZ8DX/s1085/IMG_20220403_183853.jpg

[Aspirin]

https://i.imgur.com/KhD8hE0.jpg

[Beowulf]

https://i.postimg.cc/MKXjWhSJ/IMG-20231016-132029-3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Cybele]

https://i.imgur.com/MvhOhGs.gif

[Flashball]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/786x715q70/r/922/sGlJkE.png
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6813/aZhEa3.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1338/tZFgqr.jpg

[Mortimer]

Sunlight effect (they can look darker, dark as coal black too)

https://i.ibb.co/4VFBk0w/Atractivenessofmy-Eye-Region.jpg (https://ibb.co/TgwzyND)
https://i.ibb.co/JqLbFbk/Attractivenessofmy-Eye-Regionfullface.jpg (https://ibb.co/RNnM4MH)
https://i.ibb.co/19j5SGm/Gr-nberg-Selfie-Sveli.jpg (https://ibb.co/Q6tR5vK)

[Pulsa Dinura]

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[Ugo]

https://i.ibb.co/tJgkxnD/Screenshot-20231017-113618.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/FHHwpkD/Screenshot-20231017-113932.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/3cQbSrQ/Screenshot-20231017-114221.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Vessna]

…..such empty…..

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231017/505cad5dec0dfd42858795006ecd91c4.jpg


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pretty eye

blue and hazel

[Vessna]

pretty eye

blue and hazel

Thanks


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[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://i.postimg.cc/gj7Kztd3/IMG-20200212-005651.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FkjSGZYK)

Checked my posts on this thread and my photo from 2020 is still here, odd, I usually delete it. Quoting it so I don't have to put in a new one. Standard brown eyes.

[gixajo]

Checked my posts on this thread and my photo from 2020 is still here, odd, I usually delete it. Quoting it so I don't have to put in a new one. Standard brown eyes.

Nothing to say about eyes, but beautiful pipe.

[gixajo]

No changes in my eyes. I don't have new photos either. :shrug:

Well, maybe this is more new, but except for having more and more wrinkles around the eyes, few changes.

https://i.postimg.cc/N0GhgF64/ojoconluz3.png (https://postimages.org/)

And now that I look at it, I'm a little worried about that image but I think it must be an effect of the light.:confused3:

[Vessna]

No changes in my eyes. I don't have new photos either. :shrug:

Well, maybe this is more new, but except for having more and more wrinkles around the eyes, few changes.

https://i.postimg.cc/N0GhgF64/ojoconluz3.png (https://postimages.org/)

And now that I look at it, I'm a little worried about that image but I think it must be an effect of the light.:confused3:

Are you worried about the white rings around your iris? Looks like corneal arcus, happens with aging, usually around 40-50.


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[majevica]

https://i.imgur.com/CIo2vCD.jpg

[Vessna]

...double post...

[Vessna]

https://i.imgur.com/CIo2vCD.jpg

Your eye shape is very Slavic. Honestly, can't stop staring lol

[Laly]

Just dark brown/black eyes, you can't even distinguish the pupil.

https://i.imgur.com/Y4bSTdd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UEFSTuJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LxDv8Xl.jpg

[gixajo]

Are you worried about the white rings around your iris? Looks like corneal arcus, happens with aging, usually around 40-50.


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No,but the way the pupil looks could indicate suffering from cataracts in the future, but taking my parents as a reference, it would still take 30 years before my vision could be affected too much and I would have to have surgery.

For a moment you worried me a little, but I took a good look at both eyes and what might look like arcus senilis must simply be a visual effect. (in the image there may be reasonable doubts that what you say could be but I think it can be seen that is not.)

Or that's what I and whoever has looked at them want to think.:D

[Vessna]

You are probably right, you know your eyes better :)


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[gixajo]

You are probably right, you know your eyes better :)


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Well, if you are a specialist with a lot of experience, maybe you will be able to give me clues that will make me know them better.

I don't know if you are, I'm certainly not an ophthalmologist.

[White Swan]

Where are these eyes from? Lol

Hazel, technically since it's a mix. Dark hazel relatively; green and amber, blue ring occasionally. Scottish thing I think??

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[gixajo]

And after the display of beautiful eyes, let none of us forget that "the eyes that you see are not eyes because you see them, but they are eyes because they see you.":)

I'm going to sleep, I deserve a rest. I hope I don't dream or have nightmares with eyes.

[Grace O'Malley]

My eyes are just blue.

https://i.imgur.com/a6mFzpd.png
https://i.imgur.com/o59EsXq.png
https://i.imgur.com/zHmvisI.jpg

[Vessna]

Well, if you are a specialist with a lot of experience, maybe you will be able to give me clues that will make me know them better.

I don't know if you are, I'm certainly not an ophthalmologist.

I am not an ophthalmologist, but examine human eyes frequently. Although, I should have become one. It’s a cushy specialty, along with dermatology lol


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[White Swan]

My eyes are just blue.
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Nope that's mostly blue, but that's blue and green with a nice dark border ring!

[White Swan]

I am not an ophthalmologist, but examine human eyes frequently. Although, I should have become one. It’s a cushy specialty, along with dermatology lol


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Second that, dermatologists make the big bucks and don't have much stress, easy documentation, its almost all Sks and old ladies wanting skin tags nitroed off all day, easy procedure, maybe a cyst or two sometimes; make a million dollars a year (before taxes that is) and all you have to think about is the skin and the 5000 dollar/half hour procedure if you have the right machine too.

[Grace O'Malley]

Nope that's mostly blue, but that's blue and green with a nice dark border ring!

Thank you. They do change depending on what I wear.

[Vessna]

Second that, dermatologists make the big bucks and don't have much stress, easy documentation, its almost all Sks and old ladies wanting skin tags nitroed off all day, easy procedure, maybe a cyst or two sometimes; make a million dollars a year (before taxes that is) and all you have to think about is the skin and the 5000 dollar/half hour procedure if you have the right machine too.


Yeah and here I am suturing an ear at 5 am for a fraction of that …

[Mortimer]

Just dark brown/black eyes, you can't even distinguish the pupil.

https://i.imgur.com/Y4bSTdd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UEFSTuJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LxDv8Xl.jpg

I can distinguish the pupil but yes it is a weak distinguishness, similar color to mine maybe yours are even lighter, but different shape. I think our dark eyes spark and have a shine

https://i.ibb.co/ZN399FL/Eyes-Pupils-Color.jpg (https://ibb.co/XV9HHK2)

Edit: Change the "exposure" that could remove a dark shadow or dark tone, and your eyes become better visible

go here https://app.ribbet.com/home

click on exposure and turn up the bar for exposure like in my screenshot

https://i.ibb.co/PGPBNqB/Eyes-Pupils-Colorexposure.jpg (https://ibb.co/whPDR5D)
https://i.ibb.co/1Jx2hTD/Screenshot-2023-10-18-110914.png (https://ibb.co/5xVctLN)

[White Swan]

Yeah and here I am suturing an ear at 5 am for a fraction of that …

Oh I was outpatient obviously lol, are you in the ER/floating there? The high dollar is cosmetic, which op derms will see for minor things that no one even notices without a magnifying mirror lol. We did dx SCs but obviously passed that onto a cancer specialist. I worked with them too though but for breast cancer, fortunately not long, that's tough work to just be around.

[Laly]

I can distinguish the pupil but yes it is a weak distinguishness, similar color to mine maybe yours are even lighter, but different shape. I think our dark eyes spark and have a shine

https://i.ibb.co/ZN399FL/Eyes-Pupils-Color.jpg (https://ibb.co/XV9HHK2)

Edit: Change the "exposure" that could remove a dark shadow or dark tone, and your eyes become better visible

go here https://app.ribbet.com/home

click on exposure and turn up the bar for exposure like in my screenshot

https://i.ibb.co/PGPBNqB/Eyes-Pupils-Colorexposure.jpg (https://ibb.co/whPDR5D)
https://i.ibb.co/1Jx2hTD/Screenshot-2023-10-18-110914.png (https://ibb.co/5xVctLN)

Thank you for your comment and this site seems interesting, but it's necessary to create an account...

Anyway, we have the most banal eyes.

[Mortimer]

Thank you for your comment and this site seems interesting, but it's necessary to create an account...

Anyway, we have the most banal eyes.

Yes but it is free if you create an account, and you can do many things like cropp your pictures for example, if you want to use them as avatar as different size etc.

[Vessna]

Oh I was outpatient obviously lol, are you in the ER/floating there? The high dollar is cosmetic, which op derms will see for minor things that no one even notices without a magnifying mirror lol. We did dx SCs but obviously passed that onto a cancer specialist. I worked with them too though but for breast cancer, fortunately not long, that's tough work to just be around.

Yes, I am in an abusive relationship with emergency medicine. I have been wanting to quit every other week for 5 years. But probably will never do. I love the adrenaline.

[White Swan]

Thank you. They do change depending on what I wear.

Its so interesting! Yours are what I'd call light hazel; my husband's would be brown if indoors at a glance but match the tree canopy, like bright green, and a blueish smattering, when we are outside. Mine look brown at a glance indoors as well but outside I have a blue ring, green, then amber, and if I wear purple the dark blue is even visible in low light. It seems to me to be a celtic thing, is there a genetic thing to this?

[White Swan]

Yes, I am in an abusive relationship with the emergency medicine. I have been wanting to quit every other week for 5 years. But probably will never do. I love the adrenaline.

I understand you, vicariously through former colleagues who all said the same thing you just did lol. My experience in ER was quite minimal, it was hard for me to do like nothing for several hours, be chillin, and then snap into life and death like that :eek2::fwhat::shrug::st

I commend you lol

[Ugo]

My eyes are just blue.

https://i.imgur.com/a6mFzpd.png
https://i.imgur.com/o59EsXq.png
https://i.imgur.com/zHmvisI.jpg
The color of your eyes is similar to mine. Finally, someone has blue eyes

[Grace O'Malley]

Its so interesting! Yours are what I'd call light hazel; my husband's would be brown if indoors at a glance but match the tree canopy, like bright green, and a blueish smattering, when we are outside. Mine look brown at a glance indoors as well but outside I have a blue ring, green, then amber, and if I wear purple the dark blue is even visible in low light. It seems to me to be a celtic thing, is there a genetic thing to this?

I think it's because while there are a lot of blue eyes in Ireland there is also one of the highest percentages of green and a lot of Irish have a lot of central heterochromia. My daughter has this and my mother had it as well but their eyes look green when looking at them initially but that is because of the mixture of yellow and blue in the eyes. My grandmother had more of hazel eyes. Hazel eyes to me are a greenish brown.

These are what I would call have hazel eyes. Some people call eyes that are mixed with blue, green and brown hazel. It appears to have different meanings depending on the person.

https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/83/51/83/240_F_183518354_NEp8pEGu9nPIxW0WHsCxF5NqN60u24yG.j pg

[Ugo]

Nope that's mostly blue, but that's blue and green with a nice dark border ring!
In the middle photo, Grace's eyes are blue-gray.

[Grace O'Malley]

In the middle photo, Grace's eyes are blue-gray.

Yes they can look greyish as well but they do have a greenish ring around the pupil so I think that's why they can look different depending on the light and what colour clothes I'm wearing.

https://i.imgur.com/BwxDsLG.png

Yours are a definite blue. Yours are very Nordic or Russian. :)

[Ugo]

Checked my posts on this thread and my photo from 2020 is still here, odd, I usually delete it. Quoting it so I don't have to put in a new one. Standard brown eyes.
You're very white, I imagined you like this:
https://i.ibb.co/qyfH0XN/Screenshot-20231018-063833.jpg (https://ibb.co/smGT5kK)

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

You're very white, I imagined you like this

I can tan easily in summer without turning into a lobster, unlike you.

[Vessna]

….

[Demirkazık]

Here’s my husband’s eyes for you to admire

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231018/d9548ac23e23705d042293332a1c4ec3.jpg


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Eyes of a frog.

[Vessna]

Eyes of a frog.

Batrachology is not your strongest point. Just stick to sheep.


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[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

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Powerful eyebrows, almost certainly capable of growing a beard unlike Vjatych :D

*Cries in Finno-Ugric*

[Vessna]

Powerful eyebrows, almost certainly capable of growing a beard unlike Vjatych :D

He, in fact, has an awesome beard!


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[Demirkazık]

Batrachology is not your strongest point. Just stick to sheep.


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Yes, never had a frog eye. So I'll just stick to the sheeps.

https://www.pelago.co/img/products/DE-Germany/disgusting-food-museum-berlin/e50ec5459d2b4eb69115f9630e3d2f64_disgusting-food-museum-berlin.jpg

Cheers!

[Vessna]

Yes, never had a frog eye. So I'll just stick to the sheeps.

https://www.pelago.co/img/products/DE-Germany/disgusting-food-museum-berlin/e50ec5459d2b4eb69115f9630e3d2f64_disgusting-food-museum-berlin.jpg

Cheers!

I am having a hard time following. Do you have any other point to make aside from odd comments regarding someone’s appearance? All ungrounded imo. Post your eyes instead, let us see your beauty.


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[Hektor12]

Seasonal eye sharing contest? Alright.

https://i.ibb.co/XjdzLCQ/36.jpg

[Demirkazık]

I am having a hard time following. Do you have any other point to make aside from odd comments regarding someone’s appearance? All ungrounded imo. Post your eyes instead, let us see your beauty.


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Sorry, my bad. I was just trying to be funny. :sad:

https://i.ibb.co/jR1nkDn/Screenshot-20230827-032011-Gallery.jpg

[chinshen]

I think my eyes are hazel.
123879

[Ugo]

I am having a hard time following. Do you have any other point to make aside from odd comments regarding someone’s appearance? All ungrounded imo. Post your eyes instead, let us see your beauty.


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Demirkazık is upset because your husband doesn't have an epicanthus.)

[Ugo]

Seasonal eye sharing contest? Alright.

https://i.ibb.co/XjdzLCQ/36.jpg

I couldn't resist))
https://www.pelago.co/img/products/DE-Germany/disgusting-food-museum-berlin/e50ec5459d2b4eb69115f9630e3d2f64_disgusting-food-museum-berlin.jpg

[Vessna]

Lmao


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[Ugo]

https://i.postimg.cc/gj7Kztd3/IMG-20200212-005651.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FkjSGZYK)

Powerful eyebrows, almost certainly capable of growing a beard unlike Vjatych :D

*Cries in Finno-Ugric*

I can tan easily in summer without turning into a lobster, unlike you.
Don't make things up. I'm not even as pale as you
https://i.ibb.co/F309kzk/image.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Hulu]

Don't make things up. I'm not even as pale as you
https://i.ibb.co/F309kzk/image.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

lol, what happened to your beard

[Hulu]

https://i.ibb.co/dbSxh37/ey.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

https://i.imgur.com/iMLDOLR.jpg

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Don't make things up. I'm not even as pale as you

Nah, doubtful. My photo was taken during winter. Whenever I post photos on members thread you can see I have a darker complexion. And ey, you can grow a beard after all :thumb001:

[Luke35]

...

[gixajo]

I am not an ophthalmologist, but examine human eyes frequently. Although, I should have become one. It’s a cushy specialty, along with dermatology lol
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There are a lot of new members here who seem to be great professionals of the health sector. I am not audacious enough to make "diagnoses" through an image published on the internet.

Possibly the imminence of my old age is making me more cautious, apart from not being the right person or having the in-depth knowledge necessary to do such a thing accurately.

I won't lie to you, what you told me has left me worried.

Don't you see anything strange in one of the photos of your own eyes?

[Your Old Comrade]

"Plucks out eyeballs"

To what PO box?

:P

[Vessna]

There are a lot of new members here who seem to be great professionals of the health sector. I am not audacious enough to make "diagnoses" through an image published on the internet.

Possibly the imminence of my old age is making me more cautious, apart from not being the right person or having the in-depth knowledge necessary to do such a thing accurately.

I won't lie to you, what you told me has left me worried.

Don't you see anything strange in one of the photos of your own eyes?

It was just a suggestion. I am not flashing my license or giving a medical advice on an ancestry forum.
To play devils advocate- we are making diagnoses via telemedicine now.


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[Vessna]

…….

[nittionia]

kinda dark picture but ya

https://i.imgur.com/T1DGXBL.jpg

better lighting:

https://i.imgur.com/yEffuv8.jpg

[Gergő Marosvári]

This is what my eye looks like: (my eye color is greyish-blue)

https://i.postimg.cc/K8jGVS0q/Szem.jpg[/url]

[Katarzyna]

Please don’t quote the image. Thank you

https://i.ibb.co/Vj9z7JC/IMG-4654.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZLXFnGg)

[Vessna]

This is what my eye looks like: (my eye color is greyish-blue)

https://i.postimg.cc/K8jGVS0q/Szem.jpg[/url]

Wow! I am not a fan of blue eyes but yours are beautiful!


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[Ugo]

Please don’t quote the image. Thank you

[url=https://ibb.co/Zrl]
Beautiful eyes, but lack of WHG

[rothaer]

https://i.imgur.com/R5g2XCy.jpg

[Ugo]

[img]https://i.imgu/img]
I think you're showing your Ainu beard, not Aryan eyes) I think everyone noticed it. The beard is gorgeous, the eyes are a lack of whg.

[majevica]

I think you're showing your Ainu beard, not Aryan eyes) I think everyone noticed it. The beard is gorgeous, the eyes are a lack of whg.

How do eyes with WHG look like?

[Ugo]

How do eyes with WHG look like?https://i.ibb.co/zN3Gr5B/3.jpg (https://ibb.co/d7NGrcV)

[Vessna]

How do eyes with WHG look like?

Apparently, if you are high in WHG, you should look like this [emoji1]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231018/b236d1089f5c95f3acebc93201b0bfcf.jpg


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[gixajo]

It was just a suggestion. I am not flashing my license or giving a medical advice on an ancestry forum.
To play devils advocate- we are making diagnoses via telemedicine now.



Your suggestion is very good, so much so that I gave it importance and took the trouble to try to see if it could be like that.

About telemedicine, surely, but also surely we can agree that not with just one bad quality photo.

With the Covid confinement and all that, all that became much more common. The first time I became aware of a practical use of telemedicine near me was in 2004, while deployed abroad. Now the tools have changed a lot. I suppose that all that was quite basic compared to what may be common today.

Did you use to participate in Anthrogenica?:confused:

[Ugo]

Apparently, if you are high in WHG, you should look like this [emoji1]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231018/b236d1089f5c95f3acebc93201b0bfcf.jpg

Europeans have blue eyes from WHG. Blonde hair from EHG. EEF and EHG had white skin. Nothing from CHG.

[Laly]

By the way, is there a specific classification for my eyes?

[gixajo]

By the way, is there a specific classification for my eyes?

Original but beautiful.

[rothaer]

I think you're showing your Ainu beard, not Aryan eyes) I think everyone noticed it. The beard is gorgeous, the eyes are a lack of whg.

It's the beard of a mature European man without East Asian or Uralic input. :wink

[Vessna]

Your suggestion is very good, so much so that I gave it importance and took the trouble to try to see if it could be like that.

About telemedicine, surely, but also surely we can agree that not with just one bad quality photo.

With the Covid confinement and all that, all that became much more common. The first time I became aware of a practical use of telemedicine near me was in 2004, while deployed abroad. Now the tools have changed a lot. I suppose that all that was quite basic compared to what may be common today.

Did you use to participate in Anthrogenica?:confused:


I did not participate in Anthrogenica. I found this forum while googling information about Vahaduo samples.


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[Ugo]

It's the beard of a mature European man without East Asian or Uralic input. :wink
You have a snub nose and brown eyes. Is this a trait of a mature European? Beard to the lips - there are Ainu, Africans, aborigines of Australia. A short beard is not uncommon among the Baltics and Scandinavians. Let's look for typical racial characteristics peculiar only to the euro. Do you have a profile photo?

[Laly]

Original but beautiful.

What do you mean by original? That they are weird?

[Melkiirs]

I did not participate in Anthrogenica. I found this forum while googling information about Vahaduo samples.


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So this is your first anthoboard?

[gixajo]

What do you mean by original? That they are weird?

It is not pejorative. originally pretty, do you like it better?

Seriously, laly, you don't need others to continually reaffirm your value, you have to make an effort to believe in yourself, you have very good basic conditions to be happy.

[Vessna]

Europeans have blue eyes from WHG. Blonde hair from EHG. EEF and EHG had white skin. Nothing from CHG.

This is a reconstruction is of WHG man. EHG had light skin and brown eyes. Most Europeans are heterozygous for ancestral and mutated gene. It’s normal in Belarus and Russia for some people to have light brown hair or brown eyes. I find it hard to believe that no one in your extended family doesn’t have it. There is always some odd uncle or aunt that looks ancestral.


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[Ugo]

This is a reconstruction is of WHG man. EHG had light skin and brown eyes. Most Europeans are heterozygous for ancestral and mutated gene. It’s normal in Belarus and Russia for some people to have light brown hair or brown eyes. I find it hard to believe that no one in your extended family doesn’t have it. There is always some odd uncle or aunt that looks ancestral.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEHG is a fully autonomous Caucasian with fair skin, blue eyes and blond hair. Blonde hair first arose in ANE - the ancestors of EHG
https://i.ibb.co/Y0Mftjw/Archaeogenetic-analysis-of-human-skin-pigmentation-in-Europe.jpg (https://ibb.co/8YpPj8t)

[Vessna]

So this is your first anthoboard?

Yes


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[Vessna]

EHG is a fully autonomous Caucasian with fair skin, blue eyes and blond hair. Blonde hair first arose in ANE - the ancestors of EHG
https://i.ibb.co/Y0Mftjw/Archaeogenetic-analysis-of-human-skin-pigmentation-in-Europe.jpg (https://ibb.co/8YpPj8t)

Please note it says for BHG “variable eye color” not only blue. That means they carried brown eye alleles.


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[Laly]

It is not pejorative. originally pretty, do you like it better?

Seriously, laly, you don't need others to continually reaffirm your value, you have to make an effort to believe in yourself, you have very good basic conditions to be happy.

Thank you then! Actually, I think I have reached an impasse. I am consumed by jealousy.


Majevica asked about a link between his eyes and certain DNA. I wondered then if my eyes are linked to a specific phenotype, to specific DNA.

[gixajo]

So this is your first anthoboard?

Another professional in the field!

And yours?:)

[Melkiirs]

Another professional in the field!

And yours?:)

Eupedia August 2017> Anthroscape ~March 2018> The Apricity September 2018. I lurked on TA years before registering.

I also used Anthrogenica since 2021.

[gixajo]

Eupedia August 2017> Anthroscape ~March 2018> The Apricity September 2018. I lurked on TA years before registering.

I also used Anthrogenica since 2021.

I didn't know Anthroscape.

It was to be expected that some AG forum members would end up slipping into this forum.

Are you aware of the alternative AG forums opened by former forum members? For now they don't have much success.

[rothaer]

You have a snub nose and brown eyes. Is this a trait of a mature European? Beard to the lips - there are Ainu, Africans, aborigines of Australia. A short beard is not uncommon among the Baltics and Scandinavians. Let's look for typical racial characteristics peculiar only to the euro. Do you have a profile photo?

Don't become insecure and upset because of me. You are fine as well. :thumb001:

[Ugo]

Don't become insecure and upset because of me. You are fine as well. :thumb001:
Okay, I'm already tired of this fuss with EEF and calculators. I don't really care...

[rothaer]

Please note it says for BHG “variable eye color” not only blue. That means they carried brown eye alleles.


And essentially all EHG's had brown eyes:

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/pigmentation/

But I don't want to participate too much in this emotional kindergarten on that topic. :)

[Vessna]

Okay, I'm already tired of this fuss with EEF and calculators. I don't really care...

I like this attitude better than white supremacy bs.


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[Vessna]

And essentially all EHG's had brown eyes:

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/pigmentation/

But I don't want to participate too much in this emotional kindergarten on that topic. :)

Thank you. That’s what I gathered too from researching on the topic.


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[gixajo]

You have a snub nose and brown eyes. Is this a trait of a mature European? Beard to the lips - there are Ainu, Africans, aborigines of Australia. A short beard is not uncommon among the Baltics and Scandinavians. Let's look for typical racial characteristics peculiar only to the euro. Do you have a profile photo?



Don't become insecure and upset because of me. You are fine as well. :thumb001:

"Alpha male suitor timidly attacks established Alpha male to try to climb points in the group hierarchy.";)

"Established alpha male avoids absurd confrontation with a friendly pat"

[Ugo]

And essentially all EHG's had brown eyes:

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/pigmentation/

But I don't want to participate too much in this emotional kindergarten on that topic. :)The conclusions of this table are apparently based on the fact that EHG = WHG (blue-eyed)+ANE. By the way, today even Caucasian CHG - Armenians and Georgians have blue eyes, who practically have no ancient blue-eyed ancestors. Iranians also have blue eyes, from where?...

[Ugo]

"Alpha male suitor timidly attacks established Alpha male to try to climb points in the group hierarchy.";)

"Established alpha male avoids absurd confrontation with a friendly pat"Are you waiting for the alpha males to continue fighting, or are you supporting one alpha male by asserting him in a higher hierarchy?:D Or didn't you fucking understand what I just said?

[Melkiirs]

I didn't know Anthroscape.

It was to be expected that some AG forum members would end up slipping into this forum.

Are you aware of the alternative AG forums opened by former forum members? For now they don't have much success.

There is one alternative functional successor at this point GenArchivist forum. The other one DNAfocus was taken down because GenArchivist received much more attention. It is currently split between two sites on different platforms ProBoards and MyBB one of which will be committed to for good by next month. I have an account on the original ProBoards site as does Beowulf. The activity on either pales in comparison with Anthrogenica.

[rothaer]

The conclusions of this table are apparently based on the fact that EHG = WHG (blue-eyed)+ANE. By the way, today even Caucasian CHG - Armenians and Georgians have blue eyes, who practically have no ancient blue-eyed ancestors. Iranians also have blue eyes, from where?...

The Satsurblia CHG that is just a few centuries younger than the Villabruna1 WHG (14 kybp, the oldest detected individual with blue eyes) actually had one allel for blue eyes.

Btw. most WHGs also had brown eyes for millenia. Only towards the end (at abt. 8 kybp) for an unknown reason all known WHGs exhibited blue eyes.

[gixajo]

Are you waiting for the alpha males to continue fighting, or are you supporting one alpha male by asserting him in a higher hierarchy?:D Or didn't you fucking understand what I just said?

I am practically retired from the fight to climb positions in the hierarchy of the pack, I lie in the shade eating a banana while I observe and joke about what I see.

I didn't want to offend you, look on the bright side, I am identifying you as an unconsolidated alpha male tiger, and in this story I identify myself as a male monkey, without determining if I am an Alpha, Beta, Gamma monkey...

Life is nothing more than an immense joke, let's not always take it seriously.

[nittionia]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaGMzdHoxNDhkc254bDlpeXNzem1neG5 vbzl0bDR6N3Ftb2cwd2x2ZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/o6HZwLCYWKXvQ47Zrb/giphy.gif

[Ugo]

I am practically retired from the fight to climb positions in the hierarchy of the pack, I lie in the shade eating a banana while I observe and joke about what I see.

I didn't want to offend you, look on the bright side, I am identifying you as an unconsolidated alpha male tiger, and in this story I identify myself as a male monkey, without determining if I am an Alpha, Beta, Gamma monkey...

Life is nothing more than an immense joke, let's not always take it seriously.
Let's continue the topic about the eyes. This is my daughter's eye
https://i.ibb.co/jZz0fcp/tl000.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[gixajo]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaGMzdHoxNDhkc254bDlpeXNzem1neG5 vbzl0bDR6N3Ftb2cwd2x2ZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/o6HZwLCYWKXvQ47Zrb/giphy.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/L6hqP7Z1/mono1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[rothaer]

Let's continue the topic about the eyes. This is my daughter's eye
https://i.ibb.co/jZz0fcp/tl000.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

And this is my youngest daughter's:

https://i.imgur.com/sToShUw.jpg

[gixajo]

Let's continue the topic about the eyes. This is my daughter's eye
rl]


And this is my youngest daughter's:

g]



And this is my enana eye::mad:


https://i.postimg.cc/g0wFqVH4/monita-se-muda2.gif (https://postimages.org/)

[Ugo]

And this is my enana eye:

Ahaha:thumb001:

[gixajo]

Ahaha:thumb001:

I don't understand what's so funny.

[HectorOfTroy]

Apparently, if you are high in WHG, you should look like this [emoji1]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231018/b236d1089f5c95f3acebc93201b0bfcf.jpg


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Aye, there are spaniards and irish that look like this.

[HectorOfTroy]

Europeans have blue eyes from WHG. Blonde hair from EHG. EEF and EHG had white skin. Nothing from CHG.
Nah, that's probably why most nords got the skinny narrow body structure which is incongruent to cold adaptation. It's a hot climate based trait.

[HectorOfTroy]

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[kingmob]

I didn't know Anthroscape.

It was to be expected that some AG forum members would end up slipping into this forum.

Are you aware of the alternative AG forums opened by former forum members? For now they don't have much success.


They don't have much success because their narrative has become fringe thus a major turn-off.

Harvard Southern Arc paper demolished the eurogenes' spiels they were peddling. They are still crying about it a year later.

[Katarzyna]

Europeans have blue eyes from WHG. Blonde hair from EHG. EEF and EHG had white skin. Nothing from CHG.

Ok Vyatych you won. I got dark eyes and dark hair but light skin.

[Mortimer]

https://i.ibb.co/n1MhSc4/EyesFull.jpg (https://ibb.co/C9KxF74)
https://i.ibb.co/h2fw7cD/Eyesclose.jpg (https://ibb.co/1R6jvM8)

[Ugo]

Ok Vyatych you won. I got dark eyes and dark hair but light skin.
https://i.ibb.co/j6HkGRB/1677103222-papik-pro-p-karikatura-chempion-21.jpg (https://ibb.co/Fxn4JVN)

[Abaddon]

Harvard Southern Arc paper demolished the eurogenes' spiels they were peddling. They are still crying about it a year later.

Can you speak more about this part? Interesting...

[kingmob]

Can you speak more about this part? Interesting...


Read southern arc first for context, the first out of three.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4247

[Abaddon]

Read southern arc first for context, the first out of three.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4247

I read, many things in this text I already knew or expected.

What exactly demolished Eurogenes spiels?

[kingmob]

I read, many things in this text I already knew or expected.

What exactly demolished Eurogenes spiels?



Turkey_BA has no EHG signal.

[Abaddon]

Turkey_BA has no EHG signal.
Why should someone think post neolithic Turkey had EHG signal? wtf

[rothaer]

Why should someone think post neolithic Turkey had EHG signal? wtf

It's about where the pre IE language came from prior to Yamnaya etc. Considering the Anatolian IE languages one could have expected a respective EHG signal. The lack of it makes it seem possible that the CHG part of the EHG-CHG mixture in the steppe was the carrier of the IE or pre IE language. Eurogenes/Davidski considers the testing not sufficient to exclude such an EHG signal and points out such signals - not too stronmg though - at the Thracian Bosporus in Northwest Trurkey. But I don't see "demolished Eurogenes spiels" because of that.

It seems to me a somewhat wannabe dramatic interpretation.

[Vessna]

Ok Vyatych you won. I got dark eyes and dark hair but light skin.

You are a true Baltic hunter gatherer! They had brown eyes, dark hair and white skin.


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[kingmob]

It seems to me a somewhat wannabe important and conspiracy prone interpretation.

The bottom line is the fact that fstats cannot produce EHG signal in Turkey_BA, which means the Steppe is the secondary homeland of PIE.

As to your comment about conspiracy prone interpretations, I assume you refer to fringe blogspot and youtube circle-jerks, I go with the data that Reich has made available, since they are the ones that extracted it and made it available in the first place.

Too bad you don't have the capacity to check for yourself, may I suggest my informative guide on how to produce fstats, in my signature.

[rothaer]

The bottom line is the fact that fstats cannot produce EHG signal in Turkey_BA, which means the Steppe is the secondary homeland of PIE.

As to your comment about conspiracy prone interpretations, I assume you refer to fringe blogspot and youtube circle-jerks, I go with the data that Reich has made available, since they are the ones that extracted it and made it available in the first place.

Too bad you don't have the capacity to check for yourself, may I suggest my informative guide on how to produce fstats, in my signature.

No problem with that as I rely on the findings regarding the sequenced individuals.

I don't know why anyting is "too bad" for me in this context. You obviously already project an agenda on me. :picard1: This is what I meant with "conspiracy prone".

[kingmob]

No problem with that as I rely on the findings regarding the sequenced individuals.


Yes, your child's play g25 is where it's at.

:joker000:

[rothaer]

Yes, your child's play g25 is where it's at.

:joker000:

Can you elaborate as I did nowhere refer to G25 in this context? Another uninhibited projection?

[kingmob]

Can you elaborate as I did nowhere refer to G25 in this context? Another uninhibited projection?


Passive aggressive backtracking faggotry don't work on me, dude.

[rothaer]

Passive aggressive backtracking faggotry don't work on me, dude.

You simply have to refrain from posting nonsensic and unrelated stupidities like "Yes, your child's play g25 is where it's at.". You should restrict such statements to your own social environment and your "dudes" where you likely can impress with that.

[kingmob]

You simply have to refrain from posting nonsensic and unrelated stupidities like "Yes, your child's play g25 is where it's at.". You should restrict such statements to your own social environment and your "dudes" where you likely can impress with that.


If your capacity to understand analytical tools is restricted to nonsense PCA iterations (heavily modded and scaled) then you should be quiet when the adults are speaking, clown.

[Russki]

without East Asian


Your East Asian input is smaller than Vjatych's for sure, but proceed to take a qpAdm test together and find out that you're not that different after all.

eupator did a good job on here to refrain people from relying their knowledge about admixtures on G25 shitculators.

[rothaer]

Your East Asian input is smaller than Vjatych's for sure, but proceed to take a qpAdm test together and find out that you're not that different after all.

Yes, I never opposed that. I intend to try that.


eupator did a good job on here to refrain people from relying their knowledge about admixtures on G25 shitculators.

There's absolutely zero reason to talk about G25 games ("your child's play g25 is where it's at.") to me when we speak about the first article on that Southern arc. If that unfactual and behaving like an asshole eupator has anything meaningful to promote, then he's for sure not a suitable promotor and is even harmful for promotion. Do you think that any serious individual will at all like to communicate with such an individual, behaving like an asshole?

[rothaer]

If your capacity to understand analytical tools is restricted to nonsense PCA iterations (heavily modded and scaled) then you should be quiet when the adults are speaking, clown.

You have just quitted your existance as a conversation partner and given another example of an ethnic Greek that will be part of my life experience which I will share with as many people as possible. Bon voyage.

[Ugo]

Yes, I never opposed that. I intent to try that.



There's absolutely zero reason to talk about G25 games ("your child's play g25 is where it's at.") to me when we speak about the first article on that Southern arc. If that unfactual and behaving like an asshole eupator has anything meaningful to promote, then he's for sure not a suitable promotor and is even harmful for promotion. Do you think that any serious individual will at all like to communicate with such an individual, behaving like an asshole?
You are a reasonable person. Why do you use rude words to respectable people? Patting me on the shoulder is easy, I don't understand genetics...pat that bearded Greek on the shoulder.

[rothaer]

(...) G25 shitculators.

Why exactly is it more shit according to your opinion?

- First of all, no qpAdm run has been by far as practical to carry out till now. It's an enormous effort to proceed with that (comparably).
- The fact that something is complicated, requires effort and is used in academic papers is not yet anything that indicates that it is superior, In contrast, i've often found that findings from acadmic papers are banal and ridicolous compared to what can be found out with other calculators. Just imagine that poor "northern" and southern" DNA calculations in the Longobard papers regarding Szólád and Collegno. I've not yet seen any advantage of a qpAdm run. I'll be open towards that and also that much more SNPs are included is attractive, but I've not yet seen any result that suggests an advantage of that approach.

Considering the results I find the term shitculator as for an G25 calculator - which for sure has flaws - not factual.

But maybe you can explain some advantages.

[rothaer]

You are a reasonable person. Why do you use rude words to respectable people? Patting me on the shoulder is easy, I don't understand genetics...pat that bearded Greek on the shoulder.

I don't do. I do it towards someone who unrelatedly and without any factuality in a discussion about a particular genetic paper says "Yes, your child's play g25 is where it's at.". That's no respectable person but an individual that behaves like an asshole and has to be recognised and depicted as such.

Simple as that.

I may point out that I did not yet immediately do it at his first blackout but after the second one that showed that it obviously was his genuine behaviour in a discussion.

[KirillMazur]

Del

[Ugo]

I don't do. I do it towards someone who unrelatedly and without any factuality in a discussion about a particular genetic paper says "Yes, your child's play g25 is where it's at.". That's no respectable person but an individual that behaves like an asshole and has to be recognised and depicted as such.

Simple as that.
Because he's tired of explaining it to all the morons. The Greek is really arrogant, but he is smart. I would also like explanations from smart people, not aggression. But you also screwed everyone up with your Germanic race. I'm joking about the WEF, it's obvious. I've got a shitload of this shit... You're serious...

[Übermensch]

https://scontent.fcia7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/271952842_2243836859098748_1561370345582492142_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8cd0a2&_nc_ohc=dekp1P9etLMAX97uxDS&_nc_ht=scontent.fcia7-1.fna&oh=03_AdTYQBr6uafVXuWDSbpDc2ksRpIe3MMVaV_JonjRGaDe LA&oe=6558C4C9

[kingmob]

But maybe you can explain some advantages.


Very quickly, w/o analyzing too much. Why PCAs like g25 suck.

1) No imputation process.

2) No outgroup list of population sources to compare against, PCA overcompensates by creating unrealistic combos.

3) Dimensional weights tweaked to suit the PCA author's biases (eg g25 data overfit Eastern Euro to distinguish them from Western Euro).

4) All points in dimensional space are treated equally, with no method to mitigate lower SNP count VS higher SNP count (see 1).

5) Scaling of data with no penalisation, creating artificial entities.

[rothaer]

Because he's tired of explaining it to all the morons.

This is nothing yet but an insinuation. Someone who has something to explain, will usually be able to do that.


The Greek is really arrogant, but he is smart.

This is what he hopes people will assume. If you observe veryfied smart people they will often be arrogant internally till a certain degree but they will not behave arrogant to the outside. Can you imagine that David Reich behaves arrogant to the outside? People doing that are mostly just wannabes. If he is smart, he hides it well.


I would also like explanations from smart people, not aggression. But you also screwed everyone up with your Germanic race.

I did never use the words "Germanic race" nor did I refer to anything like that. But if you mean that a number of people dislike me much because of my opinion then this might well be true. But I expect from everybody that I communicate with that he can also behave factual because otherwise a communication is not possible and a waste of life time. eupator is - for whatever reason - not able to that and hence quitted as a conversation partner.


I'm joking about the WEF, it's obvious. I've got a shitload of this shit... You're serious...

Exactly.

[kingmob]

You have just quitted your existance as a conversation partner and given another example of an ethnic Greek that will be part of my life experience which I will share with as many people as possible. Bon voyage.


Do you want to speak to the manager?

[Ugo]

This is nothing yet but an insunuation. Someone who has something to explain, will usually be able to do that.



This is what he hopes people will assume. If you observe veryfied smart people they will often be arrogant internally till a certain degree but they will not behave arrogant to the outside. Can you imagine that David Reich behaves arrogant to the outside? People doing that are mostly just wannabes. If he is smart, he hides it well.



I did never use the words "Germanic race" nor did I refer to anything like that. But if you mean that a number of people dislike me much because of my opinion then this might well be true. But I expect from everybody that I communicate with that he can also behave factual because otherwise a communication is not possible and a waste of life time. eupator is - for whatever reason - not able to that and hence quitted as a conversation partner.



Exactly.
This forum is the tsyrk of trolls. I was one of them initially, but in the end I'm a lesser troll than many of you. I am interested in the origin of our language. We have a common language "indo-churka". This is a hot topic and very political. The more information the better.

[Gergő Marosvári]

Wow! I am not a fan of blue eyes but yours are beautiful!


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Thank you! :)

[rothaer]

Very quickly, w/o analyzing too much. Why PCAs like g25 suck.

G25 is not a PCA but a summarising of genetics in 25 dimensions and can be used for a number of calculations. A 2D PCA is always an incredible loss of information compared to having information in 25D but this has nothing with G25 to do, of course.


1) No imputation process.

Thanks god. Imputation is guesswork and has not to be mingled in to the hard data. The enormous wrongs of genetic imputations became visible in the desatrous matching results in the database of MyHeritage and others when they tried to fix the problem of a low SNP overlap between the OmniExpress chip and the GSA chip. This is why GEDmatch refrains from imputation.


2) No outgroup list of population sources to compare against, PCA overcompensates by creating unrealistic combos.

A Vahaduo calculator uses all 25 dimensions of G25 coords and as I pointed out, a 2D PCA has nothing to do in particular with G25 and exhibits always the known deficiences. Compared is everything in a calculator to the references that you put in there. Nothing hinders you to add Yoruba (and Chimpanzee?) there if that feels better.


3) Dimensional weights tweaked to suit the PCA author's biases (eg g25 data overfit Eastern Euro to distinguish them from Western Euro).

First, it's not the G25 data but a particular PCA, f. i. the so called North Europe PCA. But indeed also the definition of the 25 values (dimensions) is a wilful decision that has to be made.

Second, every PCA is even more and inevitably a wilful construction. You could have one million differently constructed PCAs that display the same G25 data in another manner. You will have to transfer from 25 dimensions to two dimensions what you intend to display and if Davidski wants to distinguish Eastern Euro from Western Euro he has, of course, to do exactly what you said. It's not an "overfit" then but the display of a particular aspect of the reality while loads of other aspects are not displayed, at least not in the same PCA.


4) All points in dimensional space are treated equally, with no method to mitigate lower SNP count VS higher SNP count (see 1).

Yes, there is then instead refrained from using kits with a too low SNP count. I understand well what is the intention of imputation and that might be meaningful before skipping an otherwise maybe important kit. But scientifically it gives some headache to "pollute" sequenced data with additional guesswork (imputation). However, in fact this is no problem specific to G25 because you can impute a low SNP count kit first (they do it at MyHeritage and they did it at DNA.Land) and then calculate the G25 coords.


5) Scaling of data with no penalisation, creating artificial entities.

I've not yet fully grasped that scaling and also not how the eigenvalues for the various dimensions are determined but actually the scaled coords are only an additional offer. You can also use the unscaled coords. Although I must say that they in my experiments did not yield convincing results.

Just to make it clear: Nothing of what I say means to reject qpAdm runs. I can not assess them and the only thing I know of them are their pretty rough results compared to other findings.

But we did not come from any statement that qpAdm is useless but that G25 is (figuratively) and this I can state that it is for sure not. In a Vahaduo run all 25 dimensions are calculated and the various results of people, Germans f. i. become so specific that I even can predict approximately from where in Germany they hail (if they just hail from one area). These predictions can easily be verfied or falsified due to the known ancestry of testees. I've a lot of testees with genealogically well known ancestry which means that there can be permanently cross-checked for plausibility. I've never heard of any such fine scale performance by qpAdm runs. The mentioned performance of G25 (also by K36 btw.) is a verified experience.

[kingmob]

snip


You are just clueless, you don't even understand what the usage of an outgroup list is for.

g25 is a PCA, you get your co-ordinates on the projection.

The rest of your answers are too dumb and pointless to address.

I posted my explanation not for you but for other people reading the thread.

[Ugo]

You are just clueless, you don't even understand what the usage of an outgroup list is for.

g25 is a PCA, you get your co-ordinates on the projection.

The rest of your answers are too dumb and pointless to address.

I posted my explanation not for you but for other people reading the thread.
My friend, eupator. I don't give a fuck about your Russian comrade ruski. You're behaving unworthily!

[kingmob]

Aside from the rest, in regards to scaling the data, this is straight from the nmonte creator's mouth, don't take my word for it:


https://i.ibb.co/pKnYS1N/pca-shennanigans.png

[Vessna]

Thank you! :)

Did you use macro on the iPhone to take the pic?

[kingmob]

My friend, eupator. I don't give a fuck about your Russian comrade ruski. You're behaving unworthily!


Some people can't even understand what a PCA is and how it's projected so they try to argue nonsense with me because I hurt their fees fees.

Give me a break.

[rothaer]

You are just clueless, you don't even understand what the usage of an outgroup list is for.

g25 is a PCA, you get your co-ordinates on the projection.

The rest of your answers are too dumb and pointless to address.

I posted my explanation not for you but for other people reading the thread.

Do you think I wrote for you?

I also just wrote for the readers and I hope it will be pretty clear to them that you are nothing but a loud wannabe that is in fact pretty clueless as for the performance of G25 (and other) calculations. You don't even understand the huge difference between G25 coords and the various used 2D-PCAs.

[kingmob]

Do you think I wrote for you?

I also just wrote for the readers and I hope it will be pretty clear to them that you are nothing but a big mouthed wannabe that is in fact pretty clueless as for the performance of G25 (and other) calculations. You don't even understand the huge difference between G25 coords and the various used 2D-PCAs.


g25 is a PCA, you dork, one that is heavily overfitted with scaled data. I don't know how to explain it to you, you can create your own g25 using a simple plink command for your dataset. That's all there is to it. "Huge difference", rofl, wtf are you even on about.

You say I have a big mouth, you are just painfully clueless.

Take your PCA 'calculators' to any researcher group and see how fast you are laughed out of the door.

But it's good for your child's play - we wuz bs - you larp with.

[Gergő Marosvári]

Did you use macro on the iPhone to take the pic?

Nope, I used the back camera of my Xiaomi 11T. (I also turned on the flashlight of the phone)

[Boudin]

First, it's not the G25 data but a particular PCA, f. i. the so called North Europe PCA. But indeed also the definition of the 25 values (dimensions) is a wilful decision that has to be made.

I thought it was merely the algorithm used to determine the dimensions that was deliberately chosen, not the dimensions themselves. Not directly, anyway.

[rothaer]

I thought it was merely the algorithm used to determine the dimensions that was deliberately chosen, not the dimensions themselves. Not directly, anyway.

I'm not sure but you may be right. Davidski once told me this:


"Here are the eigenvalues for the 25 dimensions. That is, the amount of diversity that each dimension packs.

129.557
103.13
14.222
10.433
9.471
7.778
5.523
5.325
4.183
3.321
2.637
2.246
2.21
1.894
1.842
1.758
1.7
1.605
1.58
1.564
1.557
1.529
1.519
1.452
1.434

As you can see, the eigenvalues start to plateau at around 1.5 very quickly. In fact, much of the diversity is in the first few dimensions.

So in order to keep increasing the power of the test, I would need to keep adding many more dimensions, and even then, the gain would not be significant enough to be noticeable in most models.

Also, the problem with trying to squeeze out more power is that the length of time that it takes to run the test increases with each added dimension, so much so that to run a G100 it would take me several hours.


This makes the impression that the dimensions and their eigenvalues are the result of a calculation that he can just accept. On the other hand I heard that a particular dimension represents the Yamnaya component which in turn would imply that he does decide what are the components ( = dimensions) like in a GEDmatch calculator.

[Vessna]

I'm not sure but you may be right. Davidski once told me this:


"Here are the eigenvalues for the 25 dimensions. That is, the amount of diversity that each dimension packs.

129.557
103.13
14.222
10.433
9.471
7.778
5.523
5.325
4.183
3.321
2.637
2.246
2.21
1.894
1.842
1.758
1.7
1.605
1.58
1.564
1.557
1.529
1.519
1.452
1.434

As you can see, the eigenvalues start to plateau at around 1.5 very quickly. In fact, much of the diversity is in the first few dimensions.

So in order to keep increasing the power of the test, I would need to keep adding many more dimensions, and even then, the gain would not be significant enough to be noticeable in most models.

Also, the problem with trying to squeeze out more power is that the length of time that it takes to run the test increases with each added dimension, so much so that to run a G100 it would take me several hours.


This makes the impression that the dimensions and their eigenvalues are the result of a calculation that he can just accept. On the other hand I heard that a particular dimension represents the Yamnaya component which in turn would imply that he does decide what are the components ( = dimensions) like in a GEDmatch calculator.

Random question. Is Davidski on this forum?


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[Boudin]

This makes the impression that the dimensions and their eigenvalues are the result of a calculation that he can just accept. On the other hand I heard that a particular dimension represents the Yamnaya component which in turn would imply that he does decide what are the components ( = dimensions) like in a GEDmatch calculator.

My understanding is that the algorithm found that component, and Davidski determined that "Yamnaya" was a good label. Which is expected and desirable, if the algorithm is indeed finding "real" components.

I believe this is exactly what's going on with the GEDmatch calculators too, like K36. The "Baltic" component was found by an algorithm, but labeled "Baltic" by the creator, because they felt that was the most accurate description.

However (and I think it was Davidski who explained this), because of the "calculator effect", these labels must be taken with a grain of salt or ignored entirely, and attention paid only to comparisons between actual genomes.

[kingmob]

Congratulations, you just realized that the PCA dimensions are built on reference samples.

Everyday, something new.

[rothaer]

Random question. Is Davidski on this forum?


I don't think so. At Anthrogenica he was "generalissimus" but did not write much.

[rothaer]

My understanding is that the algorithm found that component, and Davidski determined that "Yamnaya" was a good label. Which is expected and desirable, if the algorithm is indeed finding "real" components.

I believe this is exactly what's going on with the GEDmatch calculators too, like K36. The "Baltic" component was found by an algorithm, but labeled "Baltic" by the creator, because they felt that was the most accurate description.

However (and I think it was Davidski who explained this), because of the "calculator effect", these labels must be taken with a grain of salt or ignored entirely, and attention paid only to comparisons between actual genomes.

Lucas told that the K36 components were taken pretty quick and dirty and "Italian" is based on samples from Bergamo and one more town iirc. So these were not "found" by a calculator but simply determined. In fact it's irrelevant if they represent anything real or not because everything is anyhow then just compared mathematically. If it's labelled "Italian" or not labelled at all like a G25 component makes no difference.

[Danjojo]

https://i.postimg.cc/c6y23GS1/IMG-20230413-135527.jpg

[calxpal]

My sister has a good phone camera so I'm hoping to get a pic of my eyes when I see her lol. I am curious asking people whether they think my eyes are light blue, blue, blue-green, blue with a darker center, or green as people seem to classify my eyes differently and I'd be curious what TA users think. Most people seem to think all blue eyes look exactly the same but I don't think that is true.

[White Swan]

I think it's because while there are a lot of blue eyes in Ireland there is also one of the highest percentages of green and a lot of Irish have a lot of central heterochromia. My daughter has this and my mother had it as well but their eyes look green when looking at them initially but that is because of the mixture of yellow and blue in the eyes. My grandmother had more of hazel eyes. Hazel eyes to me are a greenish brown.

These are what I would call have hazel eyes. Some people call eyes that are mixed with blue, green and brown hazel. It appears to have different meanings depending on the person.

https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/83/51/83/240_F_183518354_NEp8pEGu9nPIxW0WHsCxF5NqN60u24yG.j pg

The best defition of hazel is just "mixed color", then there is light hazel and dark hazel. Light hazel is mainly blue and/or green while dark hazel is mostly green and/or amber. Then aside from that is also the pattern of the colors, whether they are centralized, scattered, or otherwise. However, someone with light hazel eyes that are mainly blue would describe their eyes as blue to distinguish from the ambiguity of the term hazel, while someone with dark hazel eyes might describe their eyes as amber to distinguish from the popular assumption that hazel eyes are mostly greenish blue. It is not really a helpful word other than to describe that one's eye's are more than one color.

[Boudin]

Most people seem to think all blue eyes look exactly the same but I don't think that is true.

Before I got interested in physical anthropology I wasn't aware of the variation in blue eye color. Now, I find there are big differences between blue with yellow central ring, pure vivid blue, and grey.

[kleo_]

..

[Hulu]

The best defition of hazel is just "mixed color", then there is light hazel and dark hazel. Light hazel is mainly blue and/or green while dark hazel is mostly green and/or amber. Then aside from that is also the pattern of the colors, whether they are centralized, scattered, or otherwise. However, someone with light hazel eyes that are mainly blue would describe their eyes as blue to distinguish from the ambiguity of the term hazel, while someone with dark hazel eyes might describe their eyes as amber to distinguish from the popular assumption that hazel eyes are mostly greenish blue. It is not really a helpful word other than to describe that one's eye's are more than one color.

What are you talking about. Hazel is from the hazel nut. Hazel it is not blue. It's a greenish brown color.

https://www.whats-your-sign.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CelticMeaningHazelTree.jpg

https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/media/4073/hazel-nuts-wtml-1078658-ben-lee.jpg

[Vessna]

Husband:

https://i.postimg.cc/9XLxkVWM/IMG-6743.jpg

Son:

https://i.postimg.cc/X7X2ShJg/IMG-5852.jpg

Omg your son is adorable!


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[Beowulf]

https://i.postimg.cc/MKXjWhSJ/IMG-20231016-132029-3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

With Natural Light (Low quality sorry):


https://i.postimg.cc/pdYGLp13/scaled-Picsart-23-10-22-21-42-17-890-3-photo-processed.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[White Swan]

What are you talking about. Hazel is from the hazel nut. Hazel it is not blue. It's a greenish brown color.

https://www.whats-your-sign.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CelticMeaningHazelTree.jpg

https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/media/4073/hazel-nuts-wtml-1078658-ben-lee.jpg

Uh yeah lol I'm obviously talking about how it's functional definiton acts based on how people use it. The color of hazelnut is obvious, thus I was obviously speaking on the colloquial use of the term.

[Grace O'Malley]

My eyes are just blue.

https://i.imgur.com/a6mFzpd.png
https://i.imgur.com/o59EsXq.png
https://i.imgur.com/zHmvisI.jpg

Here's a clearer picture. The others looked a bit blurred.

https://i.imgur.com/jmzJMiP.png

It's amazing the variance in eye colour when looking at all the people who posted. It's not just a simple blue, green, brown and grey. Many people have mixed eye colour also.

[Grace O'Malley]

Omg your son is adorable!


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Yes he's a real cutie.

[Mortimer]

Two blackholes in the universe (o-ton @Vjatych, former ugochavez)

https://i.ibb.co/k6D7prX/When-Iflexpantiesgetdrenched2.jpg (https://ibb.co/wrQkTb4)
https://i.ibb.co/9VM7tcv/When-Iflexpantiesgetdrenched2twoblacholesinthegalaxy.jp g (https://ibb.co/HxJjdB2)

[cass]

https://i.ibb.co/CzWRV2y/eye.jpg (https://ibb.co/2y5GcNr)
gray

[Katarzyna]

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gray

You have very attractive eyes, cass

[Kess]

124508

Hazel green outer and brown inner circle.

[cass]

You have very attractive eyes, cass


nice as usual :)

[Zeno]

I'm here just to flex my phone's camera, eyes are typical of what a Greek could have, although a bit darker

https://i.imgur.com/RX60aZV.jpeg

[Beowulf]

My eyes again

https://i.postimg.cc/155HLpxg/IMG-20231114-144151-3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

without natural light

[Zeno]

Checked my posts on this thread and my photo from 2020 is still here, odd, I usually delete it. Quoting it so I don't have to put in a new one. Standard brown eyes.

That pipe is so Peaky fooking Blinders, lessgooooo

[Frowning Man]

https://sun9-77.userapi.com/impg/mmYYE4hCsaomoJAoDIXTB_LYwvKjigv_8nthcQ/SCbZpZn32Hc.jpg?size=339x128&quality=95&sign=b199cb662e2a80f1dc5576fd70d9323e&type=album

https://sun9-51.userapi.com/impg/7VK-XLy-y8t-C9pyyNvjcZUWVMjul9cD904i9Q/PZRoStXUS88.jpg?size=333x128&quality=95&sign=b29557baeab34226ef54bf858fa19e38&type=album

[Feiichy]

Gray

https://i.imgur.com/30euBTz.jpg

[vandor]

Gray

https://i.imgur.com/30euBTz.jpg
Cao Jana [emoji2]

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[Feiichy]

Cao Jana [emoji2]

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Hi, Victor!

[Mortimer]

https://i.ibb.co/ydDPWtB/Max-Center-Christmas-Tree-Selfieeyes.jpg (https://ibb.co/S52yRb7)
https://i.ibb.co/6YKPh1q/Max-Center-Christmas-Tree-Selfie.jpg (https://ibb.co/Y25k9yV)

[nittionia]

In the bright winter light

https://i.imgur.com/kdchpt1.jpg

[Mortimer]

In the bright winter light

https://i.imgur.cchpt1.jpg

Godess

[WalkiriaTyr]

124859

Mine are Green

[Beowulf]

124859

Mine are Green


Welcome new member!! ;)

[WalkiriaTyr]

Thank you! :)

[Tradra]

Is anyone here able to guesstimate the eye color of my fourth great uncle? Picture is taken roughly in 1849 if that somehow helps to determine.
https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/images/Fredrik_Larsen_Hartman_1.jpg

[Vessna]

Is anyone here able to guestimate the eye color of my fourth great uncle? Picture is taken roughly in 1849 if that somehow helps to determine.
https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/images/Fredrik_Larsen_Hartman_1.jpg

Blue

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231129/3e1b50912927eed4ca4f9a8f48a638e8.jpg

[Tradra]

Blue

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231129/3e1b50912927eed4ca4f9a8f48a638e8.jpg
That AI coloring looks worse than what MyHeritage does. Also I don't think he would've had pinkish skintone since he was Romani.

[Mortimer]

That AI coloring looks worse than what MyHeritage does. Also I don't think he would've had pinkish skintone since he was Romani.

He looks very Romani except the eye color but that makes him very unique and striking, the romani appearance with those very light eyes. I think the eyes are very light maybe blue or grey or blue-gray or blue-green definitely lighter then hazel and typical green (i mean when i speak of typical green i speak of darker eyes which look like leaves in autumn, such eyes)...

[Tradra]

He looks very Romani except the eye color but that makes him very unique and striking, the romani appearance with those very light eyes. I think the eyes are very light maybe blue or grey or blue-gray or blue-green definitely lighter then hazel and typical green (i mean when i speak of typical green i speak of darker eyes which look like leaves in autumn, such eyes)...

How common is this among the southern Roma who are darker?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/c1/db/03c1db08eaea994aef1c3a0ec2ae5052.jpg

[Mortimer]

How common is this among the southern Roma who are darker?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/c1/db/03c1db08eaea994aef1c3a0ec2ae5052.jpg

It exists, i dont know how much, no one ever counted, im not sure, i didnt counted, but i personally know a few with lighter then black eyes like amberish or hazel or even green....

A few examples

most of them are related to me except one her name is simonida simonovic she is a romani actress lives in vieanna but is from serbia... google simonida simonovic

https://i.ibb.co/NFNPbSR/Dragan2.jpg (https://ibb.co/S6m8GrS)
https://i.ibb.co/Jr10JBs/Dragan2-Eyes.jpg (https://ibb.co/dkT1YW5)
https://i.ibb.co/zs9gXDc/Pejazena.jpg (https://ibb.co/cJf96V5)
https://i.ibb.co/7yjWvfQ/Andrija-Plavi-Sin.jpg (https://ibb.co/WKGynh0)
https://i.ibb.co/tMzvJmk/Jelena2.jpg (https://ibb.co/ynpZQfG)
https://i.ibb.co/wCM9VJc/Jelena.jpg (https://ibb.co/gwz5Nv4)
https://i.ibb.co/QHVDx51/Milan.jpg (https://ibb.co/JpT3ShM)
https://i.ibb.co/gV7h2kW/Simonida-Selimovic2.jpg (https://ibb.co/DpbTJ0M)
https://i.ibb.co/WWj0F7y/Marko.jpg (https://ibb.co/27HSPRt)

[CosmoLady]

Green-brown (old picture)

https://i.imgur.com/sNf3xAh.jpg

[Mortimer]

^Sorry mistake it is Simonida Selimovic not simonovic

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100040334871509