View Full Version : Discovering my ancestry has made me despise Jews even more
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 12:13 AM
Besides being the purveyors of the most pernicious and appalling ideologies known to mankind (Communism and Marxism) and being a subversive 5th column hellbent on the destruction of the West through racial/demographic suicide, Yechudim care more about these "fellow Jews" (http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/articles/2015/8/29/ethiopias-secret-jews/jcr:content/headlineImage.adapt.1460.high.Ethiopian_Jews_08281 5.1441043498624.jpg) than someone like myself whose ancestry traces back over 8000 YEARS in Palestine, maintaining astonishing genetic continuity.
They're more concerned with their shitty, archaic religion and its deluded followers than their genetic kin, though I shouldn't be surprised considering most modern human groups are too low IQ to understand the insignificance of religion in comparison to their racial tribe a la Bosnians vs Serbs, Lebanese Maronites vs Lebanese Muslims, etc.
I visited a couple of Synagogues and spoke to a few Rabbis (Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox) in lieu of my ancestry test and was truly disgusted at the dismissal of genetics as an important facet to the Jewish identity. The whole POINT of the edict "Jew by matrilineal descent" was to keep the bloodline somewhat pure, but they can't grasp that we have GENETICS (you know, an empirical science) to now verify someone's Jewish identity. Israel is the home of racial mutts who adhere to an irrational belief system, not Bani Israel such as poster McCree and I.
Annie999
01-14-2018, 12:27 AM
Whats the ashkenazi percentage you score, and which DNA test?
http://www.cameraoncampus.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ali-wahab-muslim-soldier.png
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 12:28 AM
Whats the ashkenazi percentage you score, and which DNA test?
0%. I'm Samaritan, who're far more indigenous genetically than any Ashkenazi could hope.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 12:32 AM
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"Muh matrilineal descent, muh fellow Jews"
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/08/30/ethiopianjews_01_wide-4b0efbbbd9b298496de5f0a116d34840cf01727f-s900-c85.jpg
https://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2016/03/21/ff67e750-23e2-4661-b081-5e8cb7953963/ff67e750-23e2-4661-b081-5e8cb7953963_16x9_788x442.jpg
http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=285162
They have no business being in my homeland. Same goes for Arabs.
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 01:55 AM
A few things:
1. Ashkenazim are not Levantine/Jewish by their mtdna and maternal lines, but Italian. It is their PATERNAL side that is Jewish.
2. Ethiopian Jews are actually very oppressed in Israel and are not considered by many to be truly Jewish despite their religion. They face significant discrimination in all facets of life. They are certainly not "accepted" as you claim them to be. They are treated like black people who happen to be religiously Jewish, with all that comes with it.
3. If you really want to be accepted as Jewish, why not just convert? It sounds to me like you are simply resentful that Jews do not accept you as a Jew. Just convert then. You have resentment toward people with actual Jewish identities, but then you should know that Jews consider people who convert to be just as truly Jewish as those who were born Jewish (except for the racism faced by Jews of color, of course).
Kamal900
01-14-2018, 01:57 AM
Jews are a tribe more than anything else, and they work together more cohesively than any other group in America and beyond. Their religion isn't really much of a religion which emphasis more on tribal affiliation and ethics towards the other than beliefs as in the case of Islam or Christianity. It doesn't really matter on how genetically mixed or pure a particular Jew is, the most important factor of this is their Jewish identity and tribal collective mindset towards one another which is why they work as a team or a family than simply just a community who happens to be a different faith than their host populace. While other groups in America, who are usually non-Europeans, do have collective interests and etc, their power and influence in America is next to nothing in comparison to Jewish power in the country. You vote for either Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. They're both different sides of the same coin basically. Trump, Hillary and the rest are nothing more than paid shills at the end of the day. Oh well.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 02:04 AM
A few things:
1. Ashkenazim are not Levantine/Jewish by their mtdna and maternal lines, but Italian. It is their PATERNAL side that is Jewish.
2. Ethiopian Jews are actually very oppressed in Israel and are not considered by many to be truly Jewish despite their religion. They face significant discrimination in all facets of life. They are certainly not "accepted" as you claim them to be. They are treated like black people who happen to be religiously Jewish, with all that comes with it.
3. If you really want to be accepted as Jewish, why not just convert? It sounds to me like you are simply resentful that Jews do not accept you as a Jew. Just convert then. You have resentment toward people with actual Jewish identities, but then you should know that Jews consider people who convert to be just as truly Jewish as those who were born Jewish (except for the racism faced by Jews of color, of course).
1) I know this. They're still racial mutts in my eyes.
2) Perhaps, but they've willingly imported 100,000+ of them into the state of Israel yet they abhor Palestinians who're infinitely more Jewish genetically than they could ever dream of.
3) Fuck that bro, I'm an atheist and a staunch rationalist and empiricist. They can keep their shitty religion and accept blacks, East Asians, etc into their midst as "fellow Jews" if they so choose, just get the hell out of Palestine if that's the case.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 02:07 AM
Jews are a tribe more than anything else, and they work together more cohesively than any other group in America and beyond. Their religion isn't really much of a religion which emphasis more on tribal affiliation and ethics towards the other than beliefs as in the case of Islam or Christianity. It doesn't really matter on how genetically mixed or pure a particular Jew is, the most important factor of this is their Jewish identity and tribal collective mindset towards one another which is why they work as a team or a family than simply just a community who happens to be a different faith than their host populace. While other groups in America, who are usually non-Europeans, do have collective interests and etc, their power and influence in America is next to nothing in comparison to Jewish power in the country. You vote for either Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. They're both different sides of the same coin basically. Trump, Hillary and the rest are nothing more than paid shills at the end of the day. Oh well.
It's truly tragic. I yearn for the day Europeans and their descendants realize who's been duping them into oblivion, but we're on the cusp of annihilation as a country (USA) and civilization (the West).
Myanthropologies
01-14-2018, 02:14 AM
This thread is ridiculous. You're mad because a Rabbi talked to you about the importance of culture, rather than genetics? If you are converting to an ideology solely because of genetics, that shows how ridiculous you are. Genetics should not determine your ideological beliefs.
Second of all, you aren't Jewish, stop claiming to be. You are a Palestinian, not a jew or a samaritan. Many Palestinians are basically Samaritan genetically, but still Palestinians. I have seen you try so hard to be Jewish in that one Facebook group before, claiming that you are a lost jew or whatnot.
I would advise you to just convert and get over yourself, but you are letting your genetics delineate your ideology, which is an ideology you professedly otherwise don't like. Maybe you are the one with a low IQ, since you're not using your human brain to actually think, instead you are letting your genetics control your ideology.
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 02:17 AM
1) I know this. They're still racial mutts in my eyes.
They are a population of mixed Italian and Levantine origins. Not really too different from Sicilians but calling them "racial mutts" is disrespectful.
2) Perhaps, but they've willingly imported 100,000+ of them into the state of Israel yet they abhor Palestinians who're infinitely more Jewish genetically than they could ever dream of.
Ok with this I can kind of understand your point. Being of Jewish RELIGION does not make one native to the Levant. Given that Palestinians have been oppressed I can understand your frustration. I definitely am not an Israel defender.
3) Fuck that bro, I'm an atheist and a staunch rationalist and empiricist. They can keep their shitty religion and accept blacks, East Asians, etc into their midst as "fellow Jews" if they so choose, just get the hell out of Palestine if that's the case.
It sounds like you're resentful of people with Jewish identities because you want to be accepted as Jewish and you haven't been. You can deny all you want that this is the case but it clearly is. It shows in everything you have said in this thread.
Kamal900
01-14-2018, 02:23 AM
This thread is ridiculous. You're mad because a Rabbi talked to you about the importance of culture, rather than genetics? If you are converting to an ideology solely because of genetics, that shows how ridiculous you are. Genetics should not determine your ideological beliefs.
Second of all, you aren't Jewish, stop claiming to be. You are a Palestinian, not a jew or a samaritan. Many Palestinians are basically Samaritan genetically, but still Palestinians. I have seen you try so hard to be Jewish in that one Facebook group before, claiming that you are a lost jew or whatnot.
I would advise you to just convert and get over yourself, but you are letting your genetics delineate your ideology, which is an ideology you professedly otherwise don't like. Maybe you are the one with a low IQ, since you're not using your human brain to actually think, instead you are letting your genetics control your ideology.
I agree with you 100%, bro.
Carlito's Way
01-14-2018, 02:30 AM
Palestinians are backwards people uncapable of builting a civilization, whether they are muslims are not, they are both low iq monkeys. So i can understand why Jews aka the real holy people consider your kind disgusting and inferior. Israel is a peaceful nation, whether they accept east asians, blacks, hispanic jews etc along with christians, that aint your concern, if your father has abandon you let it go and move on, your step father the arabs have adopted you and made you even more inferior than you already are
I dont buy the crap that your people have jewish ancestry, your people arent holy but a bastard race send from hell to destroy israel, real christians like me read the bible and we will not be deceived by the brown camel devils like you who want to steal jewish identity
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 02:31 AM
Israel is a peaceful nation
No, they really are not.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 02:32 AM
They are a population of mixed Italian and Levantine origins. Not really too different from Sicilians but calling them "racial mutts" is disrespectful.
Calling it like it is. If it's disrespectful so be it.
Ok with this I can kind of understand your point. Being of Jewish RELIGION does not make one native to the Levant. Given that Palestinians have been oppressed I can understand your frustration. I definitely am not an Israel defender.
Exactly, they should practice their religion (irrational belief system) somewhere else.
It sounds like you're resentful of people with Jewish identities because you want to be accepted as Jewish and you haven't been. You can deny all you want that this is the case but it clearly is. It shows in everything you have said in this thread.
What you and Myanthroturd aren't comprehending is that I'm resentful of Jews for their bullshit claims to the Southern Levant as the "true descendants", yet apparently not giving a shit about genetics. Like, what kind of cognitive dissonance double think nonsense is that? And here I thought they were actually intelligent. That's why I was initially interested in learning about Judaism, but it's just a farce.
Carlito's Way
01-14-2018, 02:34 AM
No, they really are not.
Yes they are peaceful who defend themselves from these muslim peasants called palestinians, they are just mad they get pwnd all the time in wars
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 02:35 AM
Calling it like it is. If it's disrespectful so be it.
Exactly, they should practice their religion (irrational belief system) somewhere else.
What you and Myanthroturd aren't comprehending is that I'm resentful of Jews for their bullshit claims to the Southern Levant as the "true descendants", yet apparently not giving a shit about genetics. Like, what kind of cognitive dissonance double think nonsense is that? And here I thought they were actually intelligent. That's why I was initially interested in learning about Judaism, but it's just a farce.
Your anger and hate toward different races and ethnicities makes it difficult to agree with you even though you are technically correct. Ashkenazim are as ancestrally native to Italy as to the Levant, and non-ancestrally Jewish religious Jews do not suddenly become native to the Levant. But I think you show actual hatred toward the Jewish religion and people and that goes beyond dissatisfaction toward double standards and the oppression your people face: it shows something far more deep-seated in your subconscious and frankly, you need help.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 02:41 AM
Palestinians are backwards people uncapable of builting a civilization, whether they are muslims are not, they are both low iq monkeys.
So do you finally acknowledge the reality of racial intelligence disparities? That means that you have to admit that Mexicans are just as low IQ as Palestinians and incapable of creating a competent civilization (which is why you live in the USA and not the cartel infested shithole known as Mexico).
So i can understand why Jews aka the real holy people consider your kind disgusting and inferior. Israel is a peaceful nation, whether they accept east asians, blacks, hispanic jews etc along with christians, that aint your concern, if your father has abandon you let it go and move on, your step father the arabs have adopted you and made you even more inferior than you already are
Jews are racial mutts akin to your mestizo self, so I'm not devastated by any means that these fake posers claim descent from my people. And LOL @ citing the fucking bible like your degenerate ass even practices the religious tenets.
I dont buy the crap that your people have jewish ancestry, your people arent holy but a bastard race send from hell to destroy israel, real christians like me read the bible and we will not be deceived by the brown camel devils like you who want to steal jewish identity
I know it's hard for you to comprehend, but there's a little thing called science that doesn't give a shit about what you believe buddy. So if my genetic test proves that I'm 85+% Samaritan, you best believe I couldn't care less about what your chimp ass has to say.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 02:49 AM
Your anger and hate toward different races and ethnicities makes it difficult to agree with you even though you are technically correct. Ashkenazim are as ancestrally native to Italy as to the Levant, and non-ancestrally Jewish religious Jews do not suddenly become native to the Levant. But I think you show actual hatred toward the Jewish religion and people and that goes beyond dissatisfaction toward double standards and the oppression your people face: it shows something far more deep-seated in your subconscious and frankly, you need help.
Oh yeah, I'm a real menace to society by exposing truth, as opposed to the Jewish ideologies of Marxism, Communism, and Zionism that slaughtered HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of people and ruined the lives of hundreds of millions more. The fact that I have no country to call my own speaks volumes as to their character as a people.
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 02:50 AM
Oh yeah, I'm a real menace to society by exposing truth, as opposed to the Jewish ideologies of Marxism, Communism, and Zionism that slaughtered HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of people and ruined the lives of hundreds of millions more. The fact that I have no country to call my own speaks volumes as to their character as a people.
Zionism yes, I'll give you that.
But Communism and Marxism are not "Jewish ideologies" just because one Jew founded the ideologies. Do you really think most Jews, one of the wealthiest groups benefitting most from capitalism, believe in these ideologies?
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 02:53 AM
Zionism yes, I'll give you that.
But Communism and Marxism are not "Jewish ideologies" just because one Jew founded the ideologies. Do you really think most Jews, one of the wealthiest groups benefitting most from capitalism, believe in these ideologies?
Jewish academics and intelligentsia are disgustingly over-represented as the chief advocates and champions of Communism and Marxism all throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, often being the political class responsible for ushering in these ideologies in their host countries (think Bolsheviks in Russia for example).
Myanthropologies
01-14-2018, 03:09 AM
Palestinians are backwards people uncapable of builting a civilization, whether they are muslims are not, they are both low iq monkeys. So i can understand why Jews aka the real holy people consider your kind disgusting and inferior. Israel is a peaceful nation, whether they accept east asians, blacks, hispanic jews etc along with christians, that aint your concern, if your father has abandon you let it go and move on, your step father the arabs have adopted you and made you even more inferior than you already are
I dont buy the crap that your people have jewish ancestry, your people arent holy but a bastard race send from hell to destroy israel, real christians like me read the bible and we will not be deceived by the brown camel devils like you who want to steal jewish identity
I don't understand why you hate Muslims and MENAs so much. Did you have a bad experience with some or something? Because it sounds like you did to me. You seriously need to meet more muslims and menas in person. Most will be nice, I promise. And if any are mean to you, I apologize on behalf of all muslims.
SkyBurn
01-14-2018, 03:14 AM
This thread is hilariously tragic - the classic mix of anthroforum self-hatred and grappling for identity.
Never change, Apricity. You keep my popcorn flowing.
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 03:15 AM
Jewish academics and intelligentsia are disgustingly over-represented as the chief advocates and champions of Communism and Marxism all throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, often being the political class responsible for ushering in these ideologies in their host countries (think Bolsheviks in Russia for example).
Academics and intelligentsia =/= the average person. Jews are not caricatures, the average person is just an ordinary person trying to survive. Now I do agree that for their numbers, Jews have a lot of power and I certainly would say in some ways more privileged than non-Jewish white people, but that is another matter.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 03:22 AM
I don't understand why you hate Muslims and MENAs so much. Did you have a bad experience with some or something? Because it sounds like you did to me. You seriously need to meet more muslims and menas in person. Most will be nice, I promise. And if any are mean to you, I apologize on behalf of all muslims.
It's because he hates me for shitting on his horrid arguments, so he projects his hatred of me to all Palestinians even though they literally have nothing to do with his life.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 03:23 AM
This thread is hilariously tragic - the classic mix of anthroforum self-hatred and grappling for identity.
Never change, Apricity. You keep my popcorn flowing.
Yeah yeah, laugh it up buddy. The truth about international Jewry and your people's role in the horrors of the 19th-21st century has been spreading like wildfire in the past few years.
SkyBurn
01-14-2018, 03:28 AM
Yeah yeah, laugh it up buddy. The truth about international Jewry and your people's role in the horrors of the 19th-21st century has been spreading like wildfire in the past few years.
Conservatives are scapegoating the Jews for problems they have with their society? YOU'RE KIDDING! Gosh, those past few years have been tough indeed!
Better avoid 4chan and YouTube comments before other OWDers decide to expose me from behind their dorito stained keyboards
Jews are a tribe more than anything else, and they work together more cohesively than any other group in America and beyond. Their religion isn't really much of a religion which emphasis more on tribal affiliation and ethics towards the other than beliefs as in the case of Islam or Christianity. It doesn't really matter on how genetically mixed or pure a particular Jew is, the most important factor of this is their Jewish identity and tribal collective mindset towards one another which is why they work as a team or a family than simply just a community who happens to be a different faith than their host populace. While other groups in America, who are usually non-Europeans, do have collective interests and etc, their power and influence in America is next to nothing in comparison to Jewish power in the country. You vote for either Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. They're both different sides of the same coin basically. Trump, Hillary and the rest are nothing more than paid shills at the end of the day. Oh well.
Your post reminded me of this drawing I saw:
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/956/598/d36.jpg
MercifulServant
01-14-2018, 04:45 AM
So what youre saying is you hate your own people?
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 04:49 AM
So what youre saying is you hate your own people?
In a very roundabout way, I suppose so.
Smeagol
01-14-2018, 04:56 AM
I have some Ashkenazi ancestry but Jews would never accept me as part of their group (not that I ever wanted to be part of it), especially since it's on the paternal side. Most of them have a superiority complex.
Smeagol
01-14-2018, 05:01 AM
I don't understand why you hate Muslims and MENAs so much. Did you have a bad experience with some or something? Because it sounds like you did to me. You seriously need to meet more muslims and menas in person. Most will be nice, I promise. And if any are mean to you, I apologize on behalf of all muslims.
This is so pathetic.
Vojnik
01-14-2018, 07:08 AM
http://www.cameraoncampus.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ali-wahab-muslim-soldier.png
Ali is a bad Muslim.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 01:14 PM
Randomguy has highly dubious eugenicist beliefs and is a White worshipper, but in a roundabout way he is right that he is more genetically native to the Levant than many Jews are - be they blonde Ashkenazim or Black Ethiopians. But as for blaming the Jews for Communism, of the leading Soviet Jews only Trotsky was one - that was one reason why Stalin actually despised him - while there were very few if any Jews involved in the Communist regimes in Eastern Europe, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Ethiopia, Cuba etc.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 01:34 PM
1) I know this. They're still racial mutts in my eyes.
2) Perhaps, but they've willingly imported 100,000+ of them into the state of Israel yet they abhor Palestinians who're infinitely more Jewish genetically than they could ever dream of.
3) Fuck that bro, I'm an atheist and a staunch rationalist and empiricist. They can keep their shitty religion and accept blacks, East Asians, etc into their midst as "fellow Jews" if they so choose, just get the hell out of Palestine if that's the case.
what about the sub sharan admixture in arabs jack ?
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 01:49 PM
I have some Ashkenazi ancestry but Jews would never accept me as part of their group (not that I ever wanted to be part of it), especially since it's on the paternal side. Most of them have a superiority complex.
i except you
are you happy :wink
acording to the return of low you can come :)
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 01:52 PM
1) I know this. They're still racial mutts in my eyes.
2) Perhaps, but they've willingly imported 100,000+ of them into the state of Israel yet they abhor Palestinians who're infinitely more Jewish genetically than they could ever dream of.
3) Fuck that bro, I'm an atheist and a staunch rationalist and empiricist. They can keep their shitty religion and accept blacks, East Asians, etc into their midst as "fellow Jews" if they so choose, just get the hell out of Palestine if that's the case.
and where would we go jack ?:picard2:
Profileid
01-14-2018, 01:55 PM
Did they reject you for being a sandnigger or something?
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 02:08 PM
Did they reject you for being a sandnigger or something?
thats probably the reson :rotfl:
now lets be serious the main reson
is that he is not jewish
you know israel is a jewish state :lightbul:
Abdelnour
01-14-2018, 02:53 PM
This thread is hilariously tragic - the classic mix of anthroforum self-hatred and grappling for identity.
Never change, Apricity. You keep my popcorn flowing.
This.
I actually agree mostly with the OP but he is conveying in a very disrespectful and anthrotardic way(mix in with muh people are kangz n shiet)
This is why I don't go to classification threads or threads talking about "muh people"
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 03:03 PM
This.
I actually agree mostly with the OP but he is conveying in a very disrespectful and anthrotardic way(mix in with muh people are kangz n shiet)
This is why I don't go to classification threads or threads talking about "muh people"
nice :clap2:
what the fuck is op ?
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 03:07 PM
nice :clap2:
what the fuck is op ?
Opening Post/Poster.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 03:10 PM
Opening Post/Poster.
ok :thumb001:
good for him :rolleyes::picard2:
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 03:14 PM
what about the sub sharan admixture in arabs jack ?
50% Italian in Ashkenazim is more than the 7% or so SSA in Palestinians.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 03:20 PM
50% Italian in Ashkenazim is more than the 7% or so SSA in Palestinians.
the point that they are also not pure and don't reflect the levant 100%
lebanese christians are the most closest thing to the ancient hebrews not balestinians.....
and it realy doesn't matter either way we have no place to go ...... :coffee:
i don't care if we were part viking autosomaly speaking
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 03:23 PM
the point that they are also not pure and don't reflect the levant 100%
lebanese christians are the most closest thing to the ancient hebrews not balestinians.....
and it realy doesn't matter either way we have no place to go ...... :coffee:
i don't care if we were part viking autosomaly speaking
Oddly enough there is some Norman in Lebanese populations and likely some coastal Syrians too. Not sure if Palestinians have it but when I see people like Gigi Hadid's family I would not be surprised.
Abdelnour
01-14-2018, 03:23 PM
up
ok :thumb001:
good for him :rolleyes::picard2:
I do agree about his problems with tribal mentality of Jews, but all that communism talk in his post is conspiracy b.s.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 03:31 PM
Oddly enough there is some Norman in Lebanese populations and likely some coastal Syrians too. Not sure if Palestinians have it but when I see people like Gigi Hadid's family I would not be surprised.
common gigi hadid
is half dutch genetically she is half northwest european
genetically speaking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigi_Hadid
it is not norman genes in her :rofl_002:
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 03:32 PM
up
I do agree about his problems with tribal mentality of Jews, but all that communism talk in his post is conspiracy b.s.
at least on this we agree a real bulshit :thumb001:
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 03:44 PM
up
I do agree about his problems with tribal mentality of Jews, but all that communism talk in his post is conspiracy b.s.
Communism was an essentially Jewish phenomenon. Not merely did the Jew Karl Marx develop the ideas, but the founders of the seminal Russian variety were practically all Jews (this is amply documented by Britton (nd)), as were most of the major figures in communism everywhere in the West. Furthermore, the Russian revolution was financed primarily by Jewish bankers in New York, and specifically by Kuhn Loeb & Co, one of whose partners, Jacob Schiff, was said by his son to have spent the then- inconceivable-sum of $20 million for this purpose (see Sutton (1974)). Schiff was apparently acting out of enmity to the tsar, an antisemite, whom he had also attempted to overthrow by financing the Japanese in the Russo- Japanese war of 1906; and from this it is no surprise that the very first law passed by the Bolsheviks when they took power was a law against "antisemitism". Bolshevism was responsible for more than 50 million deaths, many of them caused by the most fiendish tortures. Worldwide, Jewish-inspired communism has been responsible for the deaths of more than 100 million people. "Jewish bolshevism", as it was frequently called in its early days, came close to achieving world hegemony, and -- in its more subtle forms of liberalism and socialism -- may still do so.
Britton, Frank L, Behind Communism, nd, obtainable from The Truth At Last, PO Box 1211, Marietta GA 30061
Sutton,Antony
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Arlington House, 1974 Truth at Last, "Germans Paid Jews in Full", #397: 9
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 03:48 PM
Communism was an essentially Jewish phenomenon. Not merely did the Jew Karl Marx develop the ideas, but the founders of the seminal Russian variety were practically all Jews (this is amply documented by Britton (nd)), as were most of the major figures in communism everywhere in the West. Furthermore, the Russian revolution was financed primarily by Jewish bankers in New York, and specifically by Kuhn Loeb & Co, one of whose partners, Jacob Schiff, was said by his son to have spent the then- inconceivable-sum of $20 million for this purpose (see Sutton (1974)). Schiff was apparently acting out of enmity to the tsar, an antisemite, whom he had also attempted to overthrow by financing the Japanese in the Russo- Japanese war of 1906; and from this it is no surprise that the very first law passed by the Bolsheviks when they took power was a law against "antisemitism". Bolshevism was responsible for more than 50 million deaths, many of them caused by the most fiendish tortures. Worldwide, Jewish-inspired communism has been responsible for the deaths of more than 100 million people. "Jewish bolshevism", as it was frequently called in its early days, came close to achieving world hegemony, and -- in its more subtle forms of liberalism and socialism -- may still do so.
Britton, Frank L, Behind Communism, nd, obtainable from The Truth At Last, PO Box 1211, Marietta GA 30061
Sutton,Antony
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Arlington House, 1974 Truth at Last, "Germans Paid Jews in Full"
a lie :picard2:
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 04:16 PM
a lie :picard2:
I included two book sources and you included a low IQ whopping nothing reference.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:21 PM
I included book sources and you included a low IQ nothing reference.
who the fuck care about this sources
they been wrriten by anti-semite assholes like you give me proofs ...... :)
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 04:32 PM
who the fuck care about this sources
they been wrriten by anti-semite assholes like you give me proofs ...... :)
Your response incoherent since it is one giant logical fallacy of the argumentum ad personam.
As Doc Johnson would say, if he were in my shoes, insults are the last refuge of the out-argued.
Also, ask not whether we are 'anti-semetic' ask only if we are right.
Also, an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth :
I suggest you correspond with other low IQ types, here, rather than with me. It seems your Sephardic genes have caused a lower IQ than the Ashkenazi mean IQ.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:36 PM
Your response incoherent since it is one giant logical fallacy of the argumentum ad personam.
As Doc Johnson would say, if he were in my shoes, insults are the last refuge of the out-argued.
Also, ask not whether we are 'anti-semetic' as only if we are right.
Also, an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth :
I suggest you correspond with other low IQ types, here, rather than with me. It seems your Sephardic genes have caused a lower IQ than the Ashkenazi mean IQ.
but i got the spirit motherfucker ....
and no you are not right
i want proofs .......
not a anti-semitic propagnda ;)
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 04:40 PM
and where would we go jack ?:picard2:
Go practice Judaism with your black, brown, yellow, and white brothers anywhere else bud, you guys have been doing it for millennia.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:42 PM
Go practice Judaism with your black, brown, yellow, and white brothers anywhere else bud, you guys have been doing it for millennia.
nice asshole but where ?
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 04:43 PM
Did they reject you for being a sandnigger or something?
My intention never was to convert to any religion. They told me that genetics aren't important but "muh matrilineal descent" is the real criteria. Like, how low IQ do you have to be to not understand that the edict for Jewishness by matrilineal descent is a proxy for genetic purity?
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:44 PM
My intention never was to convert to any religion. They told me that genetics aren't important but "muh matrilineal descent" is the real criteria. Like, how low IQ do you have to be to not understand that the edict for Jewishness by matrilineal descent is a proxy for genetic purity?
what is your mtdna ?
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 04:46 PM
common gigi hadid
is half dutch genetically she is half northwest european
genetically speaking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigi_Hadid
it is not norman genes in her :rofl_002:
Have you seen her supposedly full Palestinian father?
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/55f84c99dd0895353a8b467d/breakout-supermodel-gigi-hadids-dad-is-an-instagram-star.jpg
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 04:47 PM
but i got the spirit motherfucker ....
and no you are not right
i want proofs .......
not a anti-semitic propagnda ;)
Dear low IQ Sephardic Jew : syntopically referencing books is proof. One could also reference periodicals and websites to compliment the book sources but they are , by nature, more transitory in worth.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:48 PM
Have you seen her supposedly full Palestinian father?
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/55f84c99dd0895353a8b467d/breakout-supermodel-gigi-hadids-dad-is-an-instagram-star.jpg
yes he looks european admixed maybe he do have some norman/crusades genes ....
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 04:50 PM
Randomguy claims to be a libertarian, but his racist ideas mean he isn't truly, because the most fundamental tenet of libertarianism is that people are first and foremost individuals, and are not beholden to the groups to which they may belong.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 04:50 PM
Randomguy has highly dubious eugenicist beliefs and is a White worshipper, but in a roundabout way he is right that he is more genetically native to the Levant than many Jews are - be they blonde Ashkenazim or Black Ethiopians. But as for blaming the Jews for Communism, of the leading Soviet Jews only Trotsky was one - that was one reason why Stalin actually despised him - while there were very few if any Jews involved in the Communist regimes in Eastern Europe, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Ethiopia, Cuba etc.
Just because Jewish academics and sophists have been maligning Eugenics in the West but practicing it in their own communities for the 20th century doesn't mean it's bad buddy. I doubt you know anything about Eugenics besides what was propagated by anti-intellectual Jews. This:
http://www.w-uh.com/images/0301/world_IQ_over_time.gif
https://i1.wp.com/www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/world-map-iq-drop-due-to-immigration.png+
is the reality of our dire situation. And LOL @ the baseless accusation of calling me a white-worshiper. Are you gonna keep calling me that with no evidence kid?
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:52 PM
Dear low IQ Sephardic Jew : syntopically referencing books is proof. One could also reference periodicals and websites to compliment the book sources but they are , by nature, more transitory in worth.
dear coccky motherfucker get lost
we were not behind bolshvisem :picard2:
:picard2:
i don't care that you are anti-semite
but when you are spreading false claims lies
i will fight you back thats the spirit of the thracians .....
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 04:52 PM
what about the sub sharan admixture in arabs jack ?
As Sikeliot mentioned, they're still much more native than Ashkenazim. But don't mistake that for me wanting Arabs in Palestine either.
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 04:55 PM
dear coccky motherfucker get lost
we were not behind bolshvisem :picard2:
:picard2:
i don't care that you are anti-semite
but when you are spreading false claims lies
i will fight you back thats the spirit of the thracians .....
You fighting back without referencing books, periodicals and websites is asinine and ultimately futile.
Simply stating they are lies and false claims does not pass muster.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:55 PM
As Sikeliot mentioned, they're still much more native than Ashkenazim. But don't mistake that for me wanting Arabs in Palestine either.
we have no place to go
it is irrelevant the genetic stuff....
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 04:56 PM
You constantly imply that Whites are superior to other races and are endlessly denigrating Blacks, Mestizos, South Asians and even your Arabian brothers. And like I said, in intelligence as in most facets of life, individual variation is rather greater than group variation.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 04:58 PM
You fighting back without referencing books, periodicals and websites is asinine and ultimately futile.
Simply stating they are lies and false claims does not pass muster.
don't need it the spirit is enough
i came here to fight anti-semites that was the main reson i joined this forum
......
you can take your propagnda somewhere else ... skadi or stromfront
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 04:59 PM
This.
I actually agree mostly with the OP but he is conveying in a very disrespectful and anthrotardic way(mix in with muh people are kangz n shiet)
This is why I don't go to classification threads or threads talking about "muh people"
1) Truth is truth, regardless of how it's conveyed
2) I never lauded or praised "muh people" in this thread. I don't know where you get this "kangz" bullshit.
3) You obviously have no conception of the Jewish role and prominence in Communism + Marxism.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 04:59 PM
As for eugenics, its origins were through White leftists and progressives who saw it as a way of improving society by shrinking the populations of non-whites and the poor, and it was taken to its most hideous extreme by German National Socialists.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 05:00 PM
And randomguy, Jews are if anything rather more prominent in global capitalism than they ever were in global communism.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:02 PM
You constantly imply that Whites are superior to other races and are endlessly denigrating Blacks, Mestizos, South Asians and even your Arabian brothers. And like I said, in intelligence as in most facets of life, individual variation is rather greater than group variation.
IQ disparities reveal that North East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are more intelligent than Whites on average, and I've stated this innumerable times. Just because truth makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not reality.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 05:05 PM
IQ disparities reveal that North East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are more intelligent than Whites on average, and I've stated this innumerable times. Just because truth makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not reality.
I accept that there are real group disparities, but the key operative phrase is on average, i.e. it doesn't apply to every individual. And since when were Ashkenazim not White? They actually have a higher percentage of light hair and light eyes than do Iberians, Southern Italians, Albanians and Greeks - all of whom are definitely White.
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 05:05 PM
You constantly imply that Whites are superior to other races and are endlessly denigrating Blacks, Mestizos, South Asians and even your Arabian brothers. And like I said, in intelligence as in most facets of life, individual variation is rather greater than group variation.
The real Jewish Question may be explained as follows: If there is so much emerging from the Jewish Quarter which is threatening to Western culture
and to the white race which founded that culture, then how can the West allow itself the luxury of retaining the Jews in its midst? This is not, ofcourse, to say that all Jews are bad, or even most of them; it is rather
to say that -- to use an unfortunate but apt analogy -- if a swamp keeps breeding malaria, then no matter how many innocent beings the swamp may contain, are we not justified in draining it? There is, of course, no
denying that Jews have made great contributions to the West, and no denying that their contributions are significantly out of proportion to their numbers, as is their intelligence. But there is also no denying that
Jewish good must be balanced against Jewish evil, and that if Jewish evil is so profound as to be threatening the demise of Western civilization, thenthe amount of Jewish good -- however great it might be -- may not
really matter. But in speaking of Jewish good and Jewish evil, we seem to be engaging in the morally dubious act of judging Jews as collectively responsible for
this good or evil, rather than judging them on their individual behavior. But while it is all very well to aspire to judge people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin -- or in the case of Jews, by their ethnicity -- it is another thing entirely to be able to
knowthe content of an individual's character. Thus while skin color, ethnic origin, or other group designator is a highly imperfect vehicle for judging character, it nevertheless gives some information, and thus makes possible a probability judgment. Accordingly, if we cannot determine the indvidual's character, we would be as foolish to refuse to make a probability judgment based on ethnicity as we would be to refuse to ignore
the likelihood that a visitor to a casino is going to leave with his wallet lightened, or that playing Russian roulette is likely to get you killed.Thus in spite of a moral preference for judging the individual rather than the collective, the fact remains that, to some degree or another, Jews will be held collectively responsible for the acts of Jewish individuals. The matter does not rest purely on probability considerations, however, but on
the fact of what philosophers call emergent properties, ie, the fact that the group may exhibit properties which are not manifest in individuals.The classic example of emergent properties is salt, which is composed of
sodium and chlorine: While both of these substances are poisonous separately, their combination as sodium chloride is essential to life; hence the life-giving properties of salt are 'emergent'. Likewise, while isolated individual Jews are, by and large, good citizens, their combination as part of the 'Jewish nation' may give that nation an
'emergent' character which is lethal to the West.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:06 PM
As for eugenics, its origins were through White leftists and progressives who saw it as a way of improving society by shrinking the populations of non-whites and the poor, and it was taken to its most hideous extreme by German National Socialists.
Prior to its denigration almost exclusively by Jewish anti-intellectuals in the post WWII era, Eugenics was practiced in over 30 countries. If Eugenics was an inherently violent philosophy, then why haven't we seen an additional 29 "holocausts" in other countries?
Fractal
01-14-2018, 05:08 PM
You constantly imply that Whites are superior to other races and are endlessly denigrating Blacks, Mestizos, South Asians and even your Arabian brothers. And like I said, in intelligence as in most facets of life, individual variation is rather greater than group variation.
No one in their right state of mind would categorize South Asians in with Blacks and Mestizos in the USA.
Not even any Arabian. Arabians are higher than them too but lower than South Asians economically.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:09 PM
I accept that there are real group disparities, but the key operative phrase is on average, i.e. it doesn't apply to every individual. And since when were Ashkenazim not White? They actually have a higher percentage of light hair and light eyes than do Iberians, Southern Italians, Albanians and Greeks - all of whom are definitely White.
Agree 100%, and no one is debating this. But Ashkenazim do not view themselves as white, nor do they identify with White history and culture. And frankly, phenotypically, they look very distinct from white European populations.
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 05:09 PM
don't need it the spirit is enough
i came here to fight anti-semites that was the main reson i joined this forum
......
you can take your propagnda somewhere else ... skadi or stromfront
Geez, how low IQ can you get ? Simply stating it is propaganda without citing counter-references is a waste of time. You are so dumb you could not punch yourself out of a wet paper bag.
Kamal900
01-14-2018, 05:10 PM
No offence really, but the reason why you felt this way is simply because these rabbis didn't accept you as one of them which is why your frustrated and angry with them and other Jews as well. No one on this planet is genetically pure with the exception of some remote tribes and etc who don't number beyond the 1 million mark. As I stressed early in the past, you mock people who aren't like you into thinking that western peoples would one day accept you as one of their own. 7abiby, I don't care about genetic purity, and if you have any sense of shame or honor just close this thread and move on with your life. Jeez.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 05:11 PM
Agree 100%, and no one is debating this. But Ashkenazim do not view themselves as white, nor do they identify with White history and culture. And frankly, phenotypically, they look very distinct from white European populations.
Depends which White Europeans. Do they look less 'European' than most Greeks and Sicilians? Debatable, to say the least.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 05:13 PM
Geez, how low IQ can you get ? Simply stating it is propaganda without citing counter-references is a waste of time. You are so dumb you could not punch yourself out of a wet paper bag.
and you are so evill
by hating people who have done nothing wrong to you ?
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 05:15 PM
Depends which White Europeans. Do they look less 'European' than most Greeks and Sicilians? Debatable, to say the least.
I don't see much difference between Sicilians and Ashkenazim. People will say they do look different because they think of stereotypical Ashkenazim but the average person looks similar.
Balkan populations are separate from this.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:15 PM
No offence really, but the reason why you felt this way is simply because these rabbis didn't accept you as one of them which is why your frustrated and angry with them and other Jews as well. No one on this planet is genetically pure with the exception of some remote tribes and etc who don't number beyond the 1 million mark. As I stressed early in the past, you mock people who aren't like you into thinking that western peoples would one day accept you as one of their own. 7abiby, I don't care about genetic purity, and if you have any sense of shame or honor just close this thread and move on with your life. Jeez.
Here we go again with the baseless bullshit. "You're an OWDer, you're a Jewish wannabe, blah, blah, blah." Shut the fuck up with your accusatory remarks kid, I've dealt with them too many times to give a shit. If you wanna pretend to be an Arab and cuck yourself to foreign invaders then be my guest. But don't think you're somehow enlightened when you regurgitate the same Arab talking points about Jews and the like.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 05:21 PM
I don't see much difference between Sicilians and Ashkenazim. People will say they do look different because they think of stereotypical Ashkenazim but the average person looks similar.
Balkan populations are separate from this.
Greek islanders look similar to Sicilians, and by extension according to you Ashkenazim too. In any case, even mainland Greeks mostly look Mediterranean and would pass better in Israel than in most of Northern Europe (except possibly France, if that counts).
Sikeliot
01-14-2018, 05:22 PM
Greek islanders look similar to Sicilians, and by extension according to you Ashkenazim too. In any case, even mainland Greeks mostly look Mediterranean and would pass better in Israel than in most of Northern Europe (except possibly France, if that counts).
Aegean islanders are closer to Sicilians both phenotypically and genetically than they are to mainstream Greeks.
Ox Helicopters
01-14-2018, 05:23 PM
randomguy1235 I sent you an email about Jews and Samaritans. It seems I can't PM.
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 05:24 PM
and you are so evill
by hating people who have done nothing wrong to you ?
There is nothing wrong with hate provided only that it is targeted towards hateful things. Jews chipping away at the foundations of Western civilization is worthy of hate. Only an idiot would think these long chain of abuses, towards the West, by Jews, were a bunch of isolated incidences.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 05:27 PM
And randomguy: if either the Gulf Arabs or the Jews were undesirable aggressors and colonisers in the Levant, then what were the Europeans in the Americas?
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:27 PM
randomguy1235 I sent you an email about Jews and Samaritans. It seems I can't PM.
I don't see it. Could you please send me a visitor message if that works?
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 05:28 PM
There is nothing wrong with hate provided only that it is targeted towards hateful things. Jews chipping away at the foundations of Western civilization is worthy of hate. Only an idiot would think these long chain of abuses, towards the West, by Jews, were a bunch of isolated incidences.
examples ?
how fucking russia effect you personaly ?
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:28 PM
And randomguy: if either the Gulf Arabs or the Jews were undesirable aggressors and colonisers in the Levant, then what were the Europeans in the Americas?
Goes to show that mass immigration of a people to an occupied territory is almost invariably a bad thing.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 05:29 PM
And randomguy: if either the Gulf Arabs or the Jews were undesirable aggressors and colonisers in the Levant, then what were the Europeans in the Americas?
an angels :picard2:
Kamal900
01-14-2018, 05:31 PM
Here we go again with the baseless bullshit. "You're an OWDer, you're a Jewish wannabe, blah, blah, blah." Shut the fuck up with your accusatory remarks kid, I've dealt with them too many times to give a shit. If you wanna pretend to be an Arab and cuck yourself to foreign invaders then be my guest. But don't think you're somehow enlightened when you regurgitate the same Arab talking points about Jews and the like.
I take pride in my culture and identity rather than pretending to be something else just because genetics have shown different results from the base populace and so on. Being an Arab is just an ethno-linguistic affiliation, no more no less. You pretend to be something else that you have no clue or knowledge about, and yet, you look down on people who don't identify themselves with the western world and etc.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 05:31 PM
Goes to show that mass immigration of a people to an occupied territory is almost invariably a bad thing.
also the holocoust is a bad thing
but you motherfucker want us to return to the ovens in poland ...
you know in your fucked up skull that we have no place to go ......
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:34 PM
also the holocoust is a bad thing
but you motherfucker want us to return to the ovens in poland ...
you know in your fucked up skull that we have no place to go ......
:picard2: Show me where I sad I want to gas/genocide Jews. Stop making up nonsense, and the Jews could have easily established a homeland in any unoccupied region in the world, yet they decided to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians instead. Damn, you guys are always playing the victim card.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:37 PM
I take pride in my culture and identity rather than pretending to be something else just because genetics have shown different results from the base populace and so on. Being an Arab is just an ethno-linguistic affiliation, no more no less. You pretend to be something else that you have no clue or knowledge about, and yet, you look down on people who don't identify themselves with the western world and etc.
Here's the difference ahki: Culture and language are malleable, genes are not. And I'm not contemptuous of Arabs for being Arabs, I just abhor their imperialist and subversive nature.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 05:38 PM
:picard2: Show me where I sad I want to gas/genocide Jews. Stop making up nonsense, and the Jews could have easily established a homeland in any unoccupied region in the world, yet they decided to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians instead. Damn, you guys are always playing the victim card.
if you want to send us from our homeland
that you send us to death
as you know that europeans were extriminating us for the last 2000 years ....
i am not relgious but about the bible we do have conection to this country
it is not like the spaniards who came to south america and had no conection to america ......
victim card you and the balestinians cry all day long
you are not a victim you live better than mizrachi jews for example ......
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 05:39 PM
Here's the difference ahki: Culture and language are malleable, genes are not.
This is why I argued in another thread that, in some respects, right-wing collectivism (which mostly revolves around ethnicity and nationhood, both of which are to a large extent tangible and objective) is less bad than left-wing collectivism (which mostly revolves around social class and economics, which at least in reasonably open and dynamic societies can be fairly easily changed within one's lifetime).
wvwvw
01-14-2018, 05:40 PM
Go practice Judaism with your black, brown, yellow, and white brothers anywhere else bud, you guys have been doing it for millennia.
But what about Palestinians, would they ever accept Jews on the basis of similar genetics?
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 05:46 PM
But what about Palestinians, would they ever accept Jews on the basis of similar genetics?
Unfortunately, Palestinians are almost as bad as Jews in this regard in that they favor someone's religion over ancestry (i.e. Palestinian Muslims would rather marry and procreate with an Indian or Nigerian Muslim than a Palestinian Christian). They're incredibly exogamous as a group. Honestly, this whole conflict and its players are a clusterfuck.
Ox Helicopters
01-14-2018, 05:52 PM
I sent you a PM. Let's see if it works.
Kamal900
01-14-2018, 05:55 PM
There is nothing wrong with hate provided only that it is targeted towards hateful things. Jews chipping away at the foundations of Western civilization is worthy of hate. Only an idiot would think these long chain of abuses, towards the West, by Jews, were a bunch of isolated incidences.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTbz_G6X4AAEcQM.jpg:large
Oh, and just recently, South Carolina is planning to ban criticism of Israel and the like to be illegal soon:
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/Delegitimizing-Israel-soon-to-be-illegal-in-South-Carolina-533515
So much for "freedom of speech", eh? As Voltaire one said "If you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticize".
wvwvw
01-14-2018, 06:00 PM
Unfortunately, Palestinians are almost as bad as Jews in this regard in that they favor someone's religion over ancestry (i.e. Palestinian Muslims would rather marry and procreate with an Indian or Nigerian Muslim than a Palestinian Christian). They're incredibly exogamous as a group. Honestly, this whole conflict and its players are a clusterfuck.
The poorest ones perhaps, otherwise even Palestinians tend to prefer people of their own ethnic group.
Kamal900
01-14-2018, 06:01 PM
Here's the difference ahki: Culture and language are malleable, genes are not. And I'm not contemptuous of Arabs for being Arabs, I just abhor their imperialist and subversive nature.
Well, if your talking about countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar then I agree, but regardless, I think it's better to identify simply as Levantine or something like that.
Tooting Carmen
01-14-2018, 06:03 PM
The US was not over 90% European - one of the few constants in its history as an independent republic is the size of its African-American population, at circa 12%, along with Amerindians, at circa 1%. Also, the Europeans were themselves from a range of countries, not just Brits, Irish and Germans.
randomguy1235
01-14-2018, 06:03 PM
The poorest ones perhaps, otherwise even Palestinians tend to prefer people of their own ethnic group.
I wish that were true, but it's definitely not the case. My parents for ex, who're wealthy, have mentioned to me (prior to me revealing I was an atheist) that they don't care who I marry as long as she's Muslim. The same sentiment has been expressed by many of my extended family as well.
I'm sure, as much as McCree and I beef, he'll tell you what I'm saying is true.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 06:05 PM
But what about Palestinians, would they ever accept Jews on the basis of similar genetics?
they want us in the sea
the more sooner you understand it will be better .....
wvwvw
01-14-2018, 06:08 PM
I wish that were true, but it's definitely not the case. My parents for ex, who're wealthy, have mentioned to me (prior to me revealing I was an atheist) that they don't care who I marry as long as she's Muslim. The same sentiment has been expressed by many of my extended family as well.
I'm sure, as much as McCree and I beef, he'll tell you what I'm saying is true.
They probably meant they don't care who you marry as long as she's a levantine Muslim. :D
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 06:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTbz_G6X4AAEcQM.jpg:large
Oh, and just recently, South Carolina is planning to ban criticism of Israel and the like to be illegal soon:
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/Delegitimizing-Israel-soon-to-be-illegal-in-South-Carolina-533515
So much for "freedom of speech", eh? As Voltaire one said "If you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticize".
* FACT: Jewish political influence has been the principal force attempting to nullify our Constitution, and particularly the freedoms enjoyed under the Bill of Rights. For example, Jews have been the major force behind 'gun control' (ie, the attempt to nullify the Second Amendment), integration and affirmative action (to nullify freedom of association), 'hate crimes' (laying the foundation for suppressing freedom of speech), immigration (introducing large numbers of unassimilable nonwhites which will effectively destroy American culture and ideals), anti-militia statutes and similar efforts.
Bobby Martnen
01-14-2018, 06:59 PM
1. Ashkenazim are not Levantine/Jewish by their mtdna and maternal lines, but Italian. It is their PATERNAL side that is Jewish.
Someone's direct paternal line is the most important part of their heritage, given that it is where they get their surname and Y-DNA.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 07:01 PM
Someone's direct paternal line is the most important part of their heritage, given that it is where they get their surname and Y-DNA.
a sane voice:thumb001:
come and help me germanic bro against this hate ......
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 07:03 PM
* FACT: Jewish political influence has been the principal force attempting to nullify our Constitution, and particularly the freedoms enjoyed under the Bill of Rights. For example, Jews have been the major force behind 'gun control' (ie, the attempt to nullify the Second Amendment), integration and affirmative action (to nullify freedom of association), 'hate crimes' (laying the foundation for suppressing freedom of speech), immigration (introducing large numbers of unassimilable nonwhites which will effectively destroy American culture and ideals), anti-militia statutes and similar efforts.
so much power :clap:
yet there was never a jew as prisedent of the usa ..... :picard2:
Jama0112
01-14-2018, 07:04 PM
Damn, nigga. You're making me start liking you now.
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 07:08 PM
so much power :clap:
yet there was never a jew as prisedent of the usa ..... :picard2:
The president is not a dictator, moron, as there is a judicial and legislative branches, of government, plus rich Jewish lobby groups and donors :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yTTbJQhsFs
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 07:09 PM
The president is not a dictator, moron, as there is a judicicial and legislative branch plus rich Jewish lobby groups and donors :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yTTbJQhsFs
whatever jack
jews rule the world ........ :picard1:
your obsesion{with jews} is beyond logic ...... :picard2:
Smeagol
01-14-2018, 07:16 PM
i except you
are you happy :wink
acording to the return of low you can come :)
No. You have to have at least 1/4 Jewish ancestry. I have less.
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 07:20 PM
No. You have to have at least 1/4 Jewish ancestry. I have less.
we lost you .... :(
Wanderer
01-14-2018, 07:30 PM
Palestinians are backwards people uncapable of builting a civilization, whether they are muslims are not, they are both low iq monkeys. So i can understand why Jews aka the real holy people consider your kind disgusting and inferior. Israel is a peaceful nation, whether they accept east asians, blacks, hispanic jews etc along with christians, that aint your concern, if your father has abandon you let it go and move on, your step father the arabs have adopted you and made you even more inferior than you already are
I dont buy the crap that your people have jewish ancestry, your people arent holy but a bastard race send from hell to destroy israel, real christians like me read the bible and we will not be deceived by the brown camel devils like you who want to steal jewish identity
LOL. I don't know why Cristiano viejo thumbed this post down. When I read this, my first reaction was :popcorn:
Profileid
01-14-2018, 09:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTbz_G6X4AAEcQM.jpg:large
Oh, and just recently, South Carolina is planning to ban criticism of Israel and the like to be illegal soon:
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antisemitism/Delegitimizing-Israel-soon-to-be-illegal-in-South-Carolina-533515
So much for "freedom of speech", eh? As Voltaire one said "If you want to know who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticize".
You just fucking know that legislation is the result of evangelical republitard lawmakers. This is so blatantly unconstitutional but no one seems to care. No doubt the same Jews that take advantage of free speech to say and do the most fucked up shit and forced pornography into our society are quite happy about this
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 09:31 PM
jews rule the world ........ :picard1:
I never said that. That is hyperbole on your part.:picard2:
your obsesion{with jews} is beyond logic ...... :picard2:
Your innumeracy is illogical because if you tally up all my posts, on this forum, most are or were not about Jews. :picard2::rolleyes2:
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 09:37 PM
You just fucking know that legislation is the result of evangelical republitard lawmakers. This is so blatantly unconstitutional but no one seems to care. No doubt the same Jews that take advantage of free speech to say and do the most fucked up shit and forced pornography into our society are quite happy about this
Fuck those Evangelical Zionist ass kissing hillbillies and fuck South Carolina. I'm from New York ... what ? what? what? fucking unconstitutional retarded inbreds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUrUfJW1JGk
If they come here and try that unconstitutional shit I'll blow their fucking brains out. We don't play here in New York bitches :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK3GesfUmhw
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/06/a3/5a/06a35a307ef28718d123ee6f7e8cfff8.jpg
Profileid
01-14-2018, 09:39 PM
Fuck those Evangelical Zionist ass kissing hillbillies and fuck South Carolina. I'm from New York ... what ? what? what? fucking unconstitutional retarded inbreds.
Yeah but New York is like 10% Jew if not more. The entire character of the city is Jewish.
Friends of Oliver Society
01-14-2018, 09:50 PM
Yeah but New York is like 10% Jew if not more. The entire character of the city is Jewish.
You take that back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E62iA6KCIQ
kingjohn
01-14-2018, 09:58 PM
I never said that. That is hyperbole on your part.:picard2:
Your innumeracy is illogical because if you tally up all my posts, on this forum, most are or were not about Jews. :picard2::rolleyes2:
so what did you suggest ?
and what do you want from the fucking jews
for god sake ? .....
Profileid
01-14-2018, 10:00 PM
You take that back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E62iA6KCIQ
you know very well what im talking about lol
have fun paying 2+ a month for the dubious privilege of living in jewyork
TEUTORIGOS
01-14-2018, 10:00 PM
Yeah but New York is like 10% Jew if not more. The entire character of the city is Jewish.
New York culture is Catholic and Jewish on an old Dutch Protestant root. The entire character of the city is not Jewish.
Carlito's Way
01-15-2018, 03:39 AM
And randomguy: if either the Gulf Arabs or the Jews were undesirable aggressors and colonisers in the Levant, then what were the Europeans in the Americas?
He's a supporter of th colonization and genocide of the Americas, yet wants to bitch about Jews when Jews are the only true natives of Israel, a land given to them by God, no one makes mention of so called Palestinian people, they are a made up ethnic group composed of North Africans, Jordan, Syrians, Lebanese, Saudi Arabians etc, they settled there and started claiming this false Palestinian identity
We Christians back the holy land because soon we are heading to war to protect Gods people and land from the camel burnt devils aka middle eastern Muslims
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 07:26 AM
This was quite the laugh riot. In fact I read the whole thread just laughing and saying wow.
Anglojew
03-17-2018, 10:33 AM
Besides being the purveyors of the most pernicious and appalling ideologies known to mankind (Communism and Marxism) and being a subversive 5th column hellbent on the destruction of the West through racial/demographic suicide, Yechudim care more about these "fellow Jews" (http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/articles/2015/8/29/ethiopias-secret-jews/jcr:content/headlineImage.adapt.1460.high.Ethiopian_Jews_08281 5.1441043498624.jpg) than someone like myself whose ancestry traces back over 8000 YEARS in Palestine, maintaining astonishing genetic continuity.
They're more concerned with their shitty, archaic religion and its deluded followers than their genetic kin, though I shouldn't be surprised considering most modern human groups are too low IQ to understand the insignificance of religion in comparison to their racial tribe a la Bosnians vs Serbs, Lebanese Maronites vs Lebanese Muslims, etc.
I visited a couple of Synagogues and spoke to a few Rabbis (Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox) in lieu of my ancestry test and was truly disgusted at the dismissal of genetics as an important facet to the Jewish identity. The whole POINT of the edict "Jew by matrilineal descent" was to keep the bloodline somewhat pure, but they can't grasp that we have GENETICS (you know, an empirical science) to now verify someone's Jewish identity. Israel is the home of racial mutts who adhere to an irrational belief system, not Bani Israel such as poster McCree and I.
1. Marx was a baptised Christian who wrote against Jews. He never practiced Judaism.
2. Communism is French: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism#Early_communism
3. Jews are behind most of the "pro-Palestinian" organisations & NGOs e.g. HRW etc. There's literally hundreds of pro-Palestinian Jews eg Chomsky et al.
4. Jews like myself have -for years- argued Palestinians should be included in Zionism as fellow "cousins" largely abandoned by "Arabs:" https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238452-Anglojew-s-Middle-East-Peace-Plan
5. Rabbis have to turn would-be converts away three times. Also the irony is Ashkenazi Jews are mostly descended from non-Judean women while Palestinians are mostly descended from indigenous Hebrew women so you're more "Jewish" than they are (assuming they were Ashkenazi).
Teutonski
03-17-2018, 10:50 AM
Jews are a tribe more than anything else, and they work together more cohesively than any other group in America and beyond. Their religion isn't really much of a religion which emphasis more on tribal affiliation and ethics towards the other than beliefs as in the case of Islam or Christianity. It doesn't really matter on how genetically mixed or pure a particular Jew is, the most important factor of this is their Jewish identity and tribal collective mindset towards one another which is why they work as a team or a family than simply just a community who happens to be a different faith than their host populace. While other groups in America, who are usually non-Europeans, do have collective interests and etc, their power and influence in America is next to nothing in comparison to Jewish power in the country. You vote for either Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. They're both different sides of the same coin basically. Trump, Hillary and the rest are nothing more than paid shills at the end of the day. Oh well.
Oy the the fucking vey
the goyim knows
Dragoon
03-17-2018, 04:49 PM
A few things:
1. Ashkenazim are not Levantine/Jewish by their mtdna and maternal lines, but Italian. It is their PATERNAL side that is Jewish.
2. Ethiopian Jews are actually very oppressed in Israel and are not considered by many to be truly Jewish despite their religion. They face significant discrimination in all facets of life. They are certainly not "accepted" as you claim them to be. They are treated like black people who happen to be religiously Jewish, with all that comes with it.
3. If you really want to be accepted as Jewish, why not just convert? It sounds to me like you are simply resentful that Jews do not accept you as a Jew. Just convert then. You have resentment toward people with actual Jewish identities, but then you should know that Jews consider people who convert to be just as truly Jewish as those who were born Jewish (except for the racism faced by Jews of color, of course).
Which is why basing Jews on maternal line is ridiculous. The whole recent ancestry should be considered. Also religion and identity (based on some connections to Jews).
Communism and Zionism have effectly corrupted or destroyed Judaism. Even Conservatives "more political than religious" Jews and some Orthodox Jews have accepted Zionism.
Most Jews care more about the Holocaust than their religion.
Many of the Zionist founders were Labour and/or atheist Jews werent they?
I also find it funny that Evangelical Protestants support Jews and Israel,
while Jews dislike Evangelicals. I recall a famous Zionist called Evangelicals stupid but easy to take advantage of.
Ashkenazi still have some Talmudic/supremacy attitude over the gentiles and even over Sephardi/Mizrahi/African Jews.
AK-47
03-17-2018, 04:52 PM
Besides being the purveyors of the most pernicious and appalling ideologies known to mankind (Communism and Marxism) and being a subversive 5th column hellbent on the destruction of the West through racial/demographic suicide, Yechudim care more about these "fellow Jews" (http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/articles/2015/8/29/ethiopias-secret-jews/jcr:content/headlineImage.adapt.1460.high.Ethiopian_Jews_08281 5.1441043498624.jpg) than someone like myself whose ancestry traces back over 8000 YEARS in Palestine, maintaining astonishing genetic continuity.
They're more concerned with their shitty, archaic religion and its deluded followers than their genetic kin, though I shouldn't be surprised considering most modern human groups are too low IQ to understand the insignificance of religion in comparison to their racial tribe a la Bosnians vs Serbs, Lebanese Maronites vs Lebanese Muslims, etc.
I visited a couple of Synagogues and spoke to a few Rabbis (Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox) in lieu of my ancestry test and was truly disgusted at the dismissal of genetics as an important facet to the Jewish identity. The whole POINT of the edict "Jew by matrilineal descent" was to keep the bloodline somewhat pure, but they can't grasp that we have GENETICS (you know, an empirical science) to now verify someone's Jewish identity. Israel is the home of racial mutts who adhere to an irrational belief system, not Bani Israel such as poster McCree and I.
And what has despising Jews done to better your life?
Posting anti-Jewish bile is productive, how?
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 04:57 PM
And what has despising Jews done to better your life?
Posting anti-Jewish bile is productive, how?
He is just upset that Jews did not accept him as one. He also worships Europeans and Jews and used to look down on darker Middle Easterners especially those of the Arabian peninsula and North Africa, so it's serve him right. Plus everyt ime a dark Palestinian posted he would yell Bedouin or Gazan it was getting childish and very annoying to say the least. Hence he is butthurt. It's similar to how a mulatto or mestizo want White European acceptance but become rejected and bitter due to this, nothing more than that.
Anthony PV
03-17-2018, 05:00 PM
He is just upset that Jews did not accept him as one. He also worships Europeans and Jews and used to look down on darker Middle Easterners especially those of the Arabian peninsula and North Africa, so it's serve him right. Plus everyt ime a dark Palestinian posted he would yell Bedouin or Gazan it was getting childish and very annoying to say the least. Hence he is butthurt. It's similar to how a mulatto or mestizo want White European acceptance but become rejected and bitter due to this, nothing more than that.
randomguy1235 worships Euros and Jews and looks down on his fellow Middle-Easterners? When? Where?
Dragoon
03-17-2018, 05:03 PM
1. Marx was a baptised Christian who wrote against Jews. He never practiced Judaism.
2. Communism is French: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism#Early_communism
3. Jews are behind most of the "pro-Palestinian" organisations & NGOs e.g. HRW etc. There's literally hundreds of pro-Palestinian Jews eg Chomsky et al.
4. Jews like myself have -for years- argued Palestinians should be included in Zionism as fellow "cousins" largely abandoned by "Arabs:" https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238452-Anglojew-s-Middle-East-Peace-Plan
5. Rabbis have to turn would-be converts away three times. Also the irony is Ashkenazi Jews are mostly descended from non-Judean women while Palestinians are mostly descended from indigenous Hebrew women so you're more "Jewish" than they are (assuming they were Ashkenazi).
Its difficult to tell what a Jew is... (even Jews dont agree with each other!)
I consider Marx a pseudo Jew (aka not one), or maybe a quasi Jew (assuming he has significant Jewish ancestry).
How Jewish was Marx by ancestry only?
(I am familiar he criticized capitalist Jews a lot).
What do you think of creating different words for
a)religious Jews
b)ethnic Jews
c)non religious Jews
Hebrew doesnt work exactly. Even Judean/Judahite have problems with it.
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 05:05 PM
randomguy1235 worships Euros and Jews and looks down on his fellow Middle-Easterners? When? Where?
Just look at his posts, he often praises Europeans/Whites and Jews. With Jews it was on and of. He also would look down on North Africans and people from the Arabian peninsula. He would call MENA's low IQ and other nonsensical stupidity. Unlike him I might have political issues with some nations, but I don't look down on them. For example I am not fond of Kuwait which was an artificial carved nation from US, by the Anglo bricks and later the Americans who stopped us reclaiming it. Thus my dislike is not out of OWDism. Also every time a dark Palestinian posted he would say Bedouin or Gazan. The guy also uses Alt-right buzzwords lol
Anthony PV
03-17-2018, 05:10 PM
Just look at his posts, he often praises Europeans/Whites and Jews. With Jews it was on and of. He also would look down on North Africans and people from the Arabian peninsula. He would call MENA's low IQ and other nonsensical stupidity. [...] Also every time a dark Palestinian posted he would say Bedouin or Gazan.
Before that thread, I have yet to see randomguy1235 posting anything.
Unlike him I might have political issues with some nations, but I don't look down on them. For example I am not fond of Kuwait which was an artificial carved nation from US, by the Anglo bricks and later the Americans who stopped us reclaiming it. Thus my dislike is not out of OWDism.
We all know you are not OWD.
The guy also uses Alt-right buzzwords lol
What's wrong with the alt-right?
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 05:16 PM
Before that thread, I have yet to see randomguy1235 posting anything.
I was referring to his older posts, since he has not been active that much.
We all know you are not OWD.
Damn right I am not. I am proud of who I am and my ancestry. OWDers are people who are mentally colonized, and are self-haters.
What's wrong with the alt-right?
White supremacist scum that's why, you have the likes of Lauren Southern, Pettibone and the like
AK-47
03-17-2018, 05:17 PM
Before that thread, I have yet to see randomguy1235 posting anything.
We all know you are not OWD.
What's wrong with the alt-right?
I'm far more troubled with the alt-left, which is now the mainstream of progressive politics in the USA/EU.
The "alt-right" is generally a fake-news term, invented by leftist activists, working for Socialist propaganda mills, like CNN, MSLSD and the failing NYT..
Anthony PV
03-17-2018, 05:18 PM
White supremacist scum that's why, you have the likes of Lauren Southern, Pettibone and the like
We are going off-topic but how are alt-righters white supremacists? And even if they are, how are they different from you? :)
Anthony PV
03-17-2018, 05:22 PM
I'm far more troubled with the alt-left, which is now the mainstream of progressive politics in the USA/EU.
The "alt-right" is generally a fake-news term, invented by leftist activists, working for Socialist propaganda mills, like CNN, MSLSD and the failing NYT..
Yep, when I was younger, I spouted all kinds of leftist idiocies such as 'Only Whites can be racist' :p and 'Communism is morally superior to capitalism'. :rotfl: Now, the mass media are trying to brainwash us into believing that crap. :rolleyes:
White supremacist scum that's why, you have the likes of Lauren Southern, Pettibone and the like
Oh fuck you, those girls are awesome. White supremacy is a meaningless buzzword. Wanting to secure the borders and preserve the character of your country and other countries is absolutely not a crime. You are just a deracinated autistic wannabe who lives in a pred. white first-world country but takes pride in some desert medieval-level culture. That's laughable. Also you are well known for worshipping blonde white women. I would respect an actual Bedouine who lives in the desert and doesn't care about the West, but not a clown like you.
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 05:24 PM
We are going off-topic but how are alt-righters white supremacists? And even if they are, how are they different from you? :)
They claim they are superior to other races, I simply don't. I just naturally prefer people of Arabian descent over others, but I treat people equally. It's only naturally that I would feel a blood connection to the people of the Arabian peninsula, since it's in my blood. I am not an Arabian supremacist.
They claim they are superior to other races, I simply don't. I just naturally prefer people of Arabian descent over others, but I treat people equally. It's only naturally that I would feel a blood connection to the people of the Arabian peninsula, since it's in my blood. I am not an Arabian supremacist.
They don't want to conquer anyone's country, don't lie. They love and feel close to their own as well. And races exist and there are significant genetic differences between various populations unlike liberal (Judeo-)Marxist professors claim. There are also cultural incompatibilities. For example being a Christian I absolutely reject and oppose Islam with ANY color or race. To me that's not just a false prophesy but also a dangerous political ideology encroaching on the space of other groups. They are spreading like insects, really.
The Arabs and other groups have the right to their culture and countries, but the white people somehow don't. What kind of hypocrisy is that?
People like Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone simply criticize Islamization, feminism, cultural Marxism and mass migration. How come it's "white supremacy"? However, I do believe that white people should be the owners of their countries but not the whole world. Nobody says China, India, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Israel etc. should belong to Europeans.
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 05:33 PM
Oh fuck you, those girls are awesome. White supremacy is a meaningless buzzword. Wanting to secure the borders and preserve the character of your country and other countries is absolutely not a crime. You are just a deracinated autistic wannabe who lives in a pred. white first-world country but takes pride in some desert medieval-level culture. That's laughable. Also you are well known for worshipping blonde white women. I would respect an actual Bedouine who lives in the desert and doesn't care about the West, but not a clown like you.
No White supremacy is real ideology but often it's played various platforms. Sure, but they do it out of hate. Canada only became White due to European mass migration. Plus not all White countries are first world, one has to look at the Balkans and compares it to many non-White countries even those in the Carib who happen to be Black due better than it, so let's even forget about the more advanced East Asian nations. My maternal ancestry is Bedouin and I take pride in it. I don't like blonds that much, and the only blonds that are attractive tend to be from the British Isles and Holland, plus I have married an Iraqi Bedouin woman which is the most ideal due to the culture that I was brought upon. The same people ironically support the Iraq and Afghan war, so there is clear reason why I am not sympathetic to them or to their plight they invaded and plundered my nation
Anthony PV
03-17-2018, 05:35 PM
No White supremacy is real ideology but often it's played various platforms. Sure, but they do it out of hate. Canada only became White due to European mass migration. Plus not all White countries are first world, one has to look at the Balkans and compares it to many non-White countries even those in the Carib who happen to be Black due better than it, so let's even forget about the more advanced East Asian nations. My maternal ancestry is Bedouin and I take pride in it. I don't like blonds that much, and the only blonds that are attractive tend to be from the British Isles and Holland, plus I have married an Iraqi Bedouin woman which is the most ideal due to the culture that I was brought upon. The same people ironically support the Iraq and Afghan war, so there is clear reason why I am not sympathetic to them or to their plight they invaded and plundered my nation
With this post, you just proved that your mindset is not very different than that of an alt-right white supremacist. :coffee:
No White supremacy is real ideology but often it's played various platforms. Sure, but they do it out of hate.
Absolutely not. I don't hate Arabs for example, because they don't threaten my people. However, I do hate Islam as an ideology, not individuals who happen to be Muslim by birth.
Canada only became White due to European mass migration.
The country of Canada has been white since its inception. There was no Canada before the British founded it.
I don't like blonds that much, and the only blonds that are attractive tend to be from the British Isles and Holland, plus I have married an Iraqi Bedouin woman which is the most ideal due to the culture that I was brought upon.
I find it hard to believe you could marry at all.
The same people ironically support the Iraq and Afghan war, so there is clear reason why I am not sympathetic to them or to their plight they invaded and plundered my nation
They absolutely don't support the wars. Only the neocons do. The new right and the alt-right are mostly non-inteventionist. I don't identify as alt-right for the record, because I'm strongly Christian and a lot of anti-Christian undertones in the alt-right (which is a loosely defined term anyway) are unacceptable to me, however I'm strongly right-wing and nationalist (meaning support for the existence of nations as opposed to globalism).
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 05:46 PM
They don't want to conquer anyone's country, don't lie. They love and feel close to their own as well. And races exist and there are significant genetic differences between various populations unlike liberal (Judeo-)Marxist professors claim. There are also cultural incompatibilities. For example being a Christian I absolutely reject and oppose Islam with ANY color or race. To me that's not just a false prophesy but also a dangerous political ideology encroaching on the space of other groups. They are spreading like insects, really.
They don't mind plundering other nations resources la Iraq. Lauren Southern in fact worked for a well known Zionist Ezra Levant, and he is responsible for making her famous in the first place. Sure there are genetic differences between the various human races, but even within Europeans there are genetic differences. For example British islanders are genetically different from Russians, in phenotype, bone structure, ect, despite they belong to the same race. Muslims only began to spread is due to British and American meddling in the region, alongside Israel, at least the current wave, well the older wave were just colonial subjects of the various empire. However in Russia most Muslims are not that religious, and they strongly identify with Russia, with the exception of the Caucasus nations, but even then, their not religious. In fact Muslims raised in the West often get secularized or take elements from their host culture, such as the case with American and Canadian Muslims
AK-47
03-17-2018, 05:48 PM
The whole POINT of the edict "Jew by matrilineal descent" was to keep the bloodline somewhat pure,
Disregarding the origin of 50% of a person's DNA, is going to "keep the bloodline somewhat pure?"
Not really, much more of a recipe for genetic hybridization.
In the ancient world, Jewish birthright was determined by patrilineal descent.
They don't mind plundering other nations resources la Iraq. Lauren Southern in fact worked for a well known Zionist Ezra Levant, and he is responsible for making her famous in the first place.
Look, Lauren is not even a racial nationalist to begin with. She says culture, Islam, but she never says Canada is for white people only. In fact, the actual alt-right and Neo-Nazis often don't respect her.
Brittany is a lovely girl, she doesn't even look like she could hate anyone. She's a conservative Catholic and constitutionalist.
Sure there are genetic differences between the various human races, but even within Europeans there are genetic differences. For example British islanders are genetically different from Russians, in phenotype, bone structure, ect, despite they belong to the same race.
And who says otherwise? But average IQ is considerably lower in Africa for example than in any European or East Asian country.
Muslims only began to spread is due to British and American meddling in the region, alongside Israel, at least the current wave, well the older wave were just colonial subjects of the various empire.
I hate the neocons and Zionists but that's still because of what's written in the Quran to a great extent.
However in Russia most Muslims are not that religious, and they strongly identify with Russia, with the exception of the Caucasus nations, but even then, their not religious.
The Caucasus is very Islamist and uncivilized, especially Dagestan and Chechnya. I mean sure Russians themselves can be vastly different, but we're a huge nation of over 100 million spread all across the huge country. There's many educated and famous Russians and we are generally hard-working people, not some lazy bums. But those little ethnicities are still semi-medieval and tribalist even in the 21st century.
To be honest, the strong presence of Islam (between 10 and 15% of the pop.) and the toxic civic "nationalist" ideology of modern Russia is the main reason why I identify more with Belarus where Muslims are only 0.2% or so.
Concerning the OP and his relationships with Jews, I don't feel like talking about that, even if I might have a few things to say. Randomguy has a bit weird views in my opinion. But on the other hand, he is right about some things as well.
I think the Jews don't care how purely Levantine you may be, if you are not a Jew by origin (meaning parents, grandparents, etc,) or a Jew by religion (Judaism), you are not one of them. Especially if you're a Palestinian who are their enemies.
StonyArabia
03-17-2018, 06:28 PM
Absolutely not. I don't hate Arabs for example, because they don't threaten my people. However, I do hate Islam as an ideology, not individuals who happen to be Muslim by birth.
That's good. I don't hate anyone.
The country of Canada has been white since its inception. There was no Canada before the British founded it.
That's true that the British and French created the nation of Canada, but before that there was well various Amerindian and Inuit tribes.
I find it hard to believe you could marry at all.
Why? I have the wedding pictures. I can post them in the regular section
They absolutely don't support the wars. Only the neocons do. The new right and the alt-right are mostly non-inteventionist. I don't identify as alt-right for record, because I'm strongly Christian and a lot of anti-Christian undertones in the alt-right (which is a loosely defined term anyway) are unacceptable to me, however I'm strongly right-wing and nationalist (meaning support for the existence of nations as opposed to globalism).
Well that's could be right. The Neocons are indeed the ones who do, but yes there is indeed confusion between what constitutes the Neocons, Alt-right, and the right, since they all claim to be conservatives. Well anti-Christian undertones are often there, and times they use Christianity ironically
That's true that the British and French created the nation of Canada, but before that there was well various Amerindian and Inuit tribes.
They are still around and their number is not decreasing. They had no states, though. Only a few Amerindian societies had real statehood, but they were actually very violent and militarist as well. Slavery existed there too.
But yeah, they are the natives of Canada. I'm mainly concerned about Europe and especially Eastern Europe.
Why? I have the wedding pictures. I can post them in the regular section
If that's for real, I apologize.
Well that's could be right. The Neocons are indeed the ones who do, but yes there is indeed confusion between what constitutes the Neocons, Alt-right, and the right, since they all claim to be conservatives. Well anti-Christian undertones are often there, and times they use Christianity ironically
The alt-right usually rejects the label conservative because conservatism has largely failed to counter the ongoing degradation of Western society.
Anyway, I don't align myself with any anti-Christian or Neo-Nazi (the real Nazism) movements if that matters to anyone.
Kamal900
03-17-2018, 08:19 PM
The Arabs and other groups have the right to their culture and countries, but the white people somehow don't. What kind of hypocrisy is that?
People like Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone simply criticize Islamization, feminism, cultural Marxism and mass migration. How come it's "white supremacy"? However, I do believe that white people should be the owners of their countries but not the whole world. Nobody says China, India, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Israel etc. should belong to Europeans.
Lauren Southern is Jewish, and she is a "mudshark" that was sleeping with brown Muslim men and so on. "Mudsharking against the Libs" if you will.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYEf2O2X4AAE-57.jpg
The Illyrian Warrior
03-17-2018, 08:36 PM
Lauren Southern is Jewish, and she is a "mudshark" that was sleeping with brown Muslim men and so on. "Mudsharking against the Libs" if you will.
Never heard of her until I googled, she is far right political activist lol, she dated black guy before too, on one side smear on 'enemies' while on another side share fluids with them, what a messy/confused personality she must have. :D
Lauren Southern is Jewish, and she is a "mudshark" that was sleeping with brown Muslim men and so on. "Mudsharking against the Libs" if you will.
Oh come on, I expected you to be better. No need to repost that autistic alt-retard bullshit. They just cannot have a girlfriend like her, so they're mad. Pathetic losers.
Her actual DNA results:
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1492/54/1492541738959.jpg
And that "mudsharking" was some years ago when she was in high school. He wasn't Muslim, by the way. He was a mulatto or something like that. People can make mistakes and they tend to change (not to mention that she is not a racial nationalist like Richard Spencer). She is single now and has no children.
The Caucasus is very Islamist and uncivilized, especially Dagestan and Chechnya.
yup, but still better than the average non-Islamist and civilized Mukhosransk.. :D
Kamal900
03-17-2018, 08:48 PM
Never heard of her until I googled, she is far right political activist lol, she dated black guy before too, on one side smear on 'enemies' while on another side share fluids with them, what a messy/confused personality she must have. :D
She's not a White nationalist at all. More like a civic nationalist than anything. She's also Jewish since her real surname isn't southern but Simonsen which is a Hebrew surname from Denamrk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX5Q34Ob_Q&bpctr=1521321495
Kamal900
03-17-2018, 08:51 PM
Oh come on, I expected you to be better. No need to repost that autistic alt-retard bullshit. They just cannot have a girlfriend like her, so they're mad. Pathetic losers.
Her actual DNA results:
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1492/54/1492541738959.jpg
And that "mudsharking" was some years ago when she was in high school. He wasn't Muslim, by the way. He was a mulatto or something like that. People can make mistakes and they tend to change (not to mention that she is not a racial nationalist like Richard Spencer). She is single now and has no children.
Look at the recent twitter feed that I have posted. Refresh the page. She is a Jewess since her real surname isn't Southern but rather Simonsen which is a Jewish surname from Denmark. See this video for more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX5Q34Ob_Q&bpctr=1521321648
She's not a White nationalist at all. More like a civic nationalist than anything. She's also Jewish since her real surname isn't southern but Simonsen which is a Hebrew surname from Denamrk.
Bro, that's complete BS. Simonsen is a Danish surname. Her DNA results clearly say she is Western European.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simonsen
All people with the surname Simonsen are either Scando or American with presumably Scandinavian roots.
Please stop.:picard1:
Kamal900
03-17-2018, 09:08 PM
Bro, that's complete BS. Simonsen is a Danish surname. Her DNA results clearly say she is Western European.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simonsen
All people with the surname Simonsen are either Scando or American with presumably Scandinavian roots.
Please stop.:picard1:
Hebrew surname, yes. From Denmark.
Watch thw video to understand more about this issue. It's a Jewish surname from Denmark. Here's the source:
https://dbs.bh.org.il/familyname/simonsen
She even stated that her family were persecuted by the Nazis because of the holocaust and all that. Again, look at her twitter feed and the video I have posted.
Hebrew surname, yes. From Denmark.
Watch thw video to understand more about this issue. It's a Jewish surname from Denmark. Here's the source:
https://dbs.bh.org.il/familyname/simonsen
She even stated that her family were persecuted by the Nazis because of the holocaust and all that. Again, look at her twitter feed and the video I have posted.
Bro, it is a SCANDINAVIAN surname. European culture is largely Christian, Biblical names and surnames are very common.
My grandfather's entire village was burned by Nazis, so what? Most victims of Nazi Germany were not Jewish.
I provided her DNA results in the Genetics section and you posted a shitty video that doesn't prove shit. And why do you care at all? You're not European and you live in the UAE, so what's your problem?
Lauren has done much more than all those faceless internet trolls combined. She even spoke at a EU parliament meeting and the Australian government is already considering giving visas to South African farmers who are being killed and displaced by blacks there.
Many super common Russian surnames are derived from Biblical names. Davydov, Abramov, Naumov, Moiseyev - the list goes on.
I generally don't have a problem with people with Jewish ancestry. I do have a problem with certain ideologies where Jews are overrepresented, but racially Jews are just as white as Siclians and Greek Islanders. They are not even fully Middle Eastern. Partially Jewish is basically the same as partially Sicilian or Cypriot.
Kamal900
03-17-2018, 09:27 PM
Bro, it is a SCANDINAVIAN surname. European culture is largely Christian, Biblical names and surnames are very common.
My grandfather's entire village was burned by Nazis, so what? Most victims of Nazi Germany were not Jewish.
I provided her DNA results in the Genetics section and you posted a shitty video that doesn't prove shit. And why do you care at all? You're not European and you live in the UAE, so what's your problem?
Lauren has done much more than all those faceless internet trolls combined. She even spoke at a EU parliament meeting and the Australian government is already considering giving visas to South African farmers who are being killed and displaced by blacks there.
7abiby, chill. I was just stating that she's suspicious about her ideology when she stated that her grand parents suffered from the holocaust which is an event relates to Jews for the most part. I'm aware that the surname is found in many non-Jewish people and so on. Yes, I'm not European nor is it my business to put in other people's business. If she truly cared about the western world then she shouldn't cover up the oligarchs that are responsible for the mess in the world today AKA Zionist Jewry which is true for other so called civic nationalists of the west.
If she truly cared about the western world then she shouldn't cover up the oligarchs that are responsible for the mess in the world today AKA Zionist Jewry which is true for other so called civic nationalists of the west.
Calling out the Jew is a fucking tough thing to do. They routinely shut down such voices and turn them to outcasts. Even Jared Taylor doesn't talk about the JQ. Richard Spencer does, but quite causiously too. Besides, we need more mainstream people like Lauren who attract a larger and wider audience. David Duke and similar guys may have a point but they cannot go mainstream. Many people start with some more normie-friendly stuff (criticism of Islam, feminism, multiculturalism), but then they may go on to more edgy things like the JQ i.e. the role of Jews in the ascendancy of Cultural Marxism. However, I'm personally not advocating for Nazism or anything like that.
Anglojew
03-17-2018, 09:56 PM
She seems to be a practising Christian with 1 Jewish grandparent
She seems to be a practising Christian with 1 Jewish grandparent
1/4 Jews still score a lot of Ashkenazi/Jewish Diaspora. She would be at least 20% or so if she had a fully AJ grandparent. She is fully white, her parents are Christian and her dad is Danish.
Anyway, what does Lauren Southern have to do with the OP?
StonyArabia
03-18-2018, 04:07 AM
Besides being the purveyors of the most pernicious and appalling ideologies known to mankind (Communism and Marxism) and being a subversive 5th column hellbent on the destruction of the West through racial/demographic suicide, Yechudim care more about these "fellow Jews" (http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/articles/2015/8/29/ethiopias-secret-jews/jcr:content/headlineImage.adapt.1460.high.Ethiopian_Jews_08281 5.1441043498624.jpg) than someone like myself whose ancestry traces back over 8000 YEARS in Palestine, maintaining astonishing genetic continuity.
Judaism is religion and it's formed on tribal basis. Simply if you leave Judaism you have left the tribe. Personally I don't care what they do in the West, as long it does not effect me or my people. The West has been pro-Jewish in recent years, and in fact most of Anglo-world is Philosemitic and they are responsible in part for the plight of the Palestinians. Yes old practicing Jews are well more Jewish than you it's plain and simple. Ethiopian Jews have practiced Judaism for a very long time. You are not Jewish but Palestinian.
They're more concerned with their shitty, archaic religion and its deluded followers than their genetic kin, though I shouldn't be surprised considering most modern human groups are too low IQ to understand the insignificance of religion in comparison to their racial tribe a la Bosnians vs Serbs, Lebanese Maronites vs Lebanese Muslims, etc.
You are not really their genetic kin since there has been a good amount of separation , neither by religious or more importantly culture wise. Religion is very significant because it shapes people world view. Bosinans are not the same tribe as Serbs, and also there are genetic differences between the two, and the same is can be said about Muslim Lebanese and Maronite Lebanese. A better example would have been Shia and Sunni Iraqi Arabs who are genetic kin, but due to sectarian differences have different world views and were in conflict. culture and worldview religious or cultural often overrides genetic kinship. Not to mention you and most Palestinians have not been Jewish or part of the Jewish world for a long time.
I visited a couple of Synagogues and spoke to a few Rabbis (Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox) in lieu of my ancestry test and was truly disgusted at the dismissal of genetics as an important facet to the Jewish identity. The whole POINT of the edict "Jew by matrilineal descent" was to keep the bloodline somewhat pure, but they can't grasp that we have GENETICS (you know, an empirical science) to now verify someone's Jewish identity. Israel is the home of racial mutts who adhere to an irrational belief system, not Bani Israel such as poster McCree and I.
Jews originally identified via the paternal line, and the only ones who still do are the Karaites. The pure bloodline is nonsense. Since most Jewish communities often have maternal native ancestry rather than paternal one. Genetics are not important in religious and cultural identification. Most Israeli Jews are actually quite secular and some are even out right atheist. McCree/Tippo/Gilgamesh is truly proud of his Palestinian ancestry and does not want to get into the White or Jewish club. There is no need to be disgusted they just told you the hard cold truth.
Kamal900
03-18-2018, 06:11 AM
Judaism is religion and it's formed on tribal basis. Simply if you leave Judaism you have left the tribe. Personally I don't care what they do in the West, as long it does not effect me or my people. The West has been pro-Jewish in recent years, and in fact most of Anglo-world is Philosemitic and they are responsible in part for the plight of the Palestinians. Yes old practicing Jews are well more Jewish than you it's plain and simple. Ethiopian Jews have practiced Judaism for a very long time. You are not Jewish but Palestinian.
You are not really their genetic kin since there has been a good amount of separation , neither by religious or more importantly culture wise. Religion is very significant because it shapes people world view. Bosinans are not the same tribe as Serbs, and also there are genetic differences between the two, and the same is can be said about Muslim Lebanese and Maronite Lebanese. A better example would have been Shia and Sunni Iraqi Arabs who are genetic kin, but due to sectarian differences have different world views and were in conflict. culture and worldview religious or cultural often overrides genetic kinship. Not to mention you and most Palestinians have not been Jewish or part of the Jewish world for a long time.
Jews originally identified via the paternal line, and the only ones who still do are the Karaites. The pure bloodline is nonsense. Since most Jewish communities often have maternal native ancestry rather than paternal one. Genetics are not important in religious and cultural identification. Most Israeli Jews are actually quite secular and some are even out right atheist. McCree/Tippo/Gilgamesh is truly proud of his Palestinian ancestry and does not want to get into the White or Jewish club. There is no need to be disgusted they just told you the hard cold truth.
Well said. Couldn't have said it better myself.
StonyArabia
03-18-2018, 06:27 AM
Well said. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Indeed I will say it it's the damn hard cold truth. Just because you have Israelite genetic ancestry it does not mean you are part of a group who had their identity shaped by very different events than those of yours. Simply the Jews who converted to Christianity or Islam have left the Jewish fold plain and simple. Plus Judaism itself was universal religion before it became closed. Several different ethnic groups have converted to the faith, before it morphed into ethno-religious grouping. Assyrians in Adiabene, Arabians in the kingdom of Kindah and Yemen, Khazars in the Caucasus, Berbers in North Africa, and few European converts as well. These groups eventually just merged with the existing Jewish communities, hence why they are part of the Jewish group. Palestinians have been well quite isolated and had developed into their own uniqueness. That said Palestinians probably carry more Israelite blood but it does not mean their Jews, not to mention Palestinians have good amount of Arabian ancestry. So it's quite comical.
Anglojew
03-18-2018, 11:28 AM
1/4 Jews still score a lot of Ashkenazi/Jewish Diaspora. She would be at least 20% or so if she had a fully AJ grandparent. She is fully white, her parents are Christian and her dad is Danish.
Anyway, what does Lauren Southern have to do with the OP?
Her tweets clearly imply her grandfather was Jewish but maybe he was only part-Jewish
Look at the recent twitter feed that I have posted. Refresh the page. She is a Jewess since her real surname isn't Southern but rather Simonsen which is a Jewish surname from Denmark. See this video for more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX5Q34Ob_Q&bpctr=1521321648
Lul WHAT? Simonsen/Simonsson isn't Jewish.
Sean-Jobst
03-19-2018, 07:32 PM
Personally I don't care what they do in the West, as long it does not effect me or my people. The West has been pro-Jewish in recent years, and in fact most of Anglo-world is Philosemitic and they are responsible in part for the plight of the Palestinians.
This attitude is exactly how they've been able to pit people against each other, and why so many Arabs and Muslims put aside their Middle East disputes with Zionists when it comes to supporting the mass-immigration of their ilk into Europa which is being guided and pushed by those same Zionist-Jewish interests. Conversely, it is also the problem with certain anti-immigration parties or figures who will only speak against Islamization but align with Israel and the Zionists.
The truth is that our problems are linked. The Oded Yinon Plan and the Kalergi Plan is linked, part of the same process and driven by the same interests. They want to pit our peoples against each other, making us pawns of one or the other plan. Its all about social-engineering, and recognizing that Zionism and Globalism are linked. One need only look at George Soros as an example: He heads the various NGOs very active in the migrant "open borders" invasion of Europe, while simultaneously heading other NGOs active in destabilizing countries such as Syria and Libya, as well as his links to the Quantum Fund which profits from wars such as in Iraq.
You're unfortunately correct about the West. I am an American who has long opposed the Israel Lobby's stranglehold upon this country. But I am the son of an immigrant from Germany (who also had some family roots in Spain). The anti-German policies of the Jewish establishment and their lies against my people, and being unashamed about my German heritage and our history, has left me immune to the Jewish elites' propaganda. The Anglo powers fought two world wars against my people, the last one blatantly driven by the Jewish element in those countries and even the first one driven by them once they received their Balfour Declaration and aligned openly with the Allies.
I have been back to Germany and have seen the sorry shape of the country right now - but I've also seen that so many Arabs and Muslims are willing to allow themselves to be used as pawns by the same elites murdering Palestinians, further kicking a defeated, psychologically self-hating, occupied country (Deutschland) when its down just so their own numbers can increase across Europe. And, in the process, they're benefitting the very same interests that likewise use Western goyim to fight wars for Israel. So the problems are linked and we should never lose sight of this, on both our sides.
Sean-Jobst
03-19-2018, 07:40 PM
Lul WHAT? Simonsen/Simonsson isn't Jewish.
I am not entirely sure, but there are some very suspicious facts that make it at least circumstantial evidence: She had a cryptic Tweet about her grandparents suffering in Denmark under the Nazis, right after she mentioned about Jews. The Tweet seems to imply those grandparents were Jews given the context.... I don't know much about Scandinavian naming customs, but I do know there is a prominent Danish Jewish family called the Simonsens. This family even produced many of the Chief Rabbis of Denmark.
Whether Lauren "Southern" comes from this family or not is another case, but its certainly suspicious. At the very least, we can all agree she is a shill for Israel and the most hardcore Zionists, so I certainly don't see her as serving my cause in any way. The "good" things she says is merely rehashed from what others far more credible have already said, so its not like she's bringing anything original to the table anyway. She just found herself the latest money-making niche, all the while still supporting Israel and downplaying the role of Zionist/Jewish elites.
I am not entirely sure, but there are some very suspicious facts that make it at least circumstantial evidence: She had a cryptic Tweet about her grandparents suffering in Denmark under the Nazis, right after she mentioned about Jews. The Tweet seems to imply those grandparents were Jews given the context.... I don't know much about Scandinavian naming customs, but I do know there is a prominent Danish Jewish family called the Simonsens. This family even produced many of the Chief Rabbis of Denmark.
Whether Lauren "Southern" comes from this family or not is another case, but its certainly suspicious. At the very least, we can all agree she is a shill for Israel and the most hardcore Zionists, so I certainly don't see her as serving my cause in any way. The "good" things she says is merely rehashed from what others far more credible have already said, so its not like she's bringing anything original to the table anyway. She just found herself the latest money-making niche, all the while still supporting Israel and downplaying the role of Zionist/Jewish elites.
She barely says anything about the Jews. She is just a right-wing libertarian, so don't expect people like her to be outright anti-Semitic.
Lul WHAT? Simonsen/Simonsson isn't Jewish.
Why can't people look at the DNA test instead of repeating the same nonsense? :picard1:
Some people should stop seeing Jews everywhere at every corner. It's paranoid.
The "good" things she says is merely rehashed from what others far more credible have already said, so its not like she's bringing anything original to the table anyway.
Actually few of us come up with something genuinely unique. Usually we adopt ideas that someone else came up with long before ourselves.
Sean-Jobst
03-19-2018, 08:00 PM
Actually few of us come up with something genuinely unique. Usually we adopt ideas that someone else came up with long before ourselves.
Fair enough. True. I'm just suspicious when one puts themselves out there and uses it to sell books and make money.
Sean-Jobst
03-19-2018, 08:06 PM
She barely says anything about the Jews. She is just a right-wing libertarian, so don't expect people like her to be outright anti-Semitic.
Maybe its because of my German heritage and the pride I have in it, but I see anyone who is a true defender of Europa and the West as inevitably against Zionism and Jewish power elites. She has wormed her way into that niche, but misdirecting them from speaking about these elites. So she is enabling the very things she speaks against. She should remain a right-wing libertarian without trying to make inroads among the more nationalist circles then.
Fair enough. True. I'm just suspicious when one puts themselves out there and uses it to sell books and make money.
That's called being famous, sir. Remember that (right-wing) youtubers often live on money they earn from their channels and supporters. Unfortuntely you can't be such a person and have a normal job like the rest of us.
Maybe its because of my German heritage and the pride I have in it, but I see anyone who is a true defender of Europa and the West as inevitably against Zionism and Jewish power elites. She has wormed her way into that niche, but misdirecting them from speaking about these elites. So she is enabling the very things she speaks against. She should remain a right-wing libertarian without trying to make inroads among the more nationalist circles then.
Whoever criticizes Islam, mass immigration and the left is already an ally. I'm sure you voted for Trump yourself. Not every one has to be super edgy. Even the so called 'alt-right' is pretty much divided. For example, people like myself cannot align with anti-Christian neopagans.
Sean-Jobst
03-19-2018, 08:20 PM
Whoever criticizes Islam, mass immigration and the left is already an ally. I'm sure you voted for Trump yourself. Not every one has to be super edgy. Even the so called 'alt-right' is pretty much divided. For example, people like myself cannot align with anti-Christian neopagans.
Actually, I did not vote for Trump and was critical of him just as I was critical of Hillary and Bernie. They're all puppets of the same Zionist and Goldman Sachs interests driving this country. If voting really changed anything, they would've outlawed it a long time ago. So I prefer to focus on things in the cultural and metapolitical realms, as I see far more and lasting change coming from that direction than being fooled by the latest political figurehead the elites put before us to give us the illusion of "choice".
Trump is a civic nationalist, so on some things he may be marginally better against the Hillary and Bernie crowd, when it comes to the mass-immigration and Political Correctness. But still, he supports the status quo when it comes to a pro-Israeli foreign policy. His "America-First" policy is only whenever it doesn't step on the toes of the Israel-First agenda. He surrounds himself with various hardcore Zionists, Chabadists, Goldman Sachs bankers, and assorted other swamp creatures just like his Democratic or establishment Republican opponents.
SkyBurn
03-21-2018, 11:23 AM
Maybe its because of my German heritage and the pride I have in it, but I see anyone who is a true defender of Europa and the West as inevitably against Zionism and Jewish power elites. She has wormed her way into that niche, but misdirecting them from speaking about these elites. So she is enabling the very things she speaks against. She should remain a right-wing libertarian without trying to make inroads among the more nationalist circles then.
You're not German, you're an American mutt with an edgy search for an identity. Being pagan and loving German military figures doesn't change that. If you were less edgy, you'd look at the Scandinavians as a prime example of democratic socialism and "liberalism" flourishing in a society free of significant present and historical Jewish influence.
As for Lauren Southern, she is making a living off the shit she spouts. So if she becomes too niche and isolating with any overt racism, she would alienate some of her audience and lose popularity. Most of the popular alt right edgelords are in the same boat.
You're not German, you're an American mutt with an edgy search for an identity. Being pagan and loving German military figures doesn't change that. If you were less edgy, you'd look at the Scandinavians as a prime example of democratic socialism and "liberalism" flourishing in a society free of significant present and historical Jewish influence.
As for Lauren Southern, she is making a living off the shit she spouts. So if she becomes too niche and isolating with any overt racism, she would alienate some of her audience and lose popularity. Most of the popular alt right edgelords are in the same boat.
Excuse me, you are a leftist Jew, aren't you?
SkyBurn
03-21-2018, 12:03 PM
Excuse me, you are a leftist Jew, aren't you?
You betcha potato ass I am
You betcha potato ass I am
You better sing this song, boy ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mirL15zZYNc
Sean-Jobst
03-21-2018, 05:26 PM
You're not German, you're an American mutt with an edgy search for an identity. Being pagan and loving German military figures doesn't change that.
You don't know me obviously. My father came to America from Germany. I can still talk to my Oma about her memories and experiences back in Germany. I have cousins still living in Germany and I've been back there. As for German military figures, my great-grandfather was actually in the Wehrmacht and I have his medals and war letters within my possession. So I'm not some "American mutt" who doesn't know what he's talking about.
I lost relatives during the Allied bombings and even now my Oma suffers nightmares about her childhood memories of the bombs and bomb shelters. Growing up here in America, I was constantly inundated with Holocaust propaganda and talking about how "bad" the Germans were, so don't tell me I am not speaking from any standpoint! I got into Revisionism and studying those aspects of history, exactly to restore the honor and reputation to the German nation. This intensified even more after I went to Germany and saw for myself how low the country has sunk. As for my Paganism, it has nothing to do with this and came after much religious searching although it does have a lot to do with identity and ancestors as well.
One's ethnicity doesn't change merely by being born in another country. One still belongs to the countless thousands of years of ancestors who came before them. I'm not an "American mutt" - and honestly, I'm sick and tired of people attacking all Americans as "mutts", when some of us still have direct links to our ancestral homelands and an awareness of where exactly our family comes from. How about you, the Aussie? Last time I checked, your country is also one of immigrants so I could just as well call you an "Aussie mutt" but I won't since I don't know you.
If you were less edgy, you'd look at the Scandinavians as a prime example of democratic socialism and "liberalism" flourishing in a society free of significant present and historical Jewish influence.
Maybe historical but definitely not at the present. Jews dominate the media in Scandinavia just like the rest of the West. Jewish think-tanks and pro-Israel advocacy organizations have as much political pressure on those countries' governments as the rest of the West. Jewish supremacist anti-Europeans like Barbara Lerner Spectre and Ingrid Lomfors in Sweden or Ervin Kohn in Norway have the ears of those respective governments. Plus, my roots are Alpine/Southern German, so I prefer to look to those regions rather than the Nordic/Scandinavian or even North Germany, for inspiration.
As for Lauren Southern, she is making a living off the shit she spouts. So if she becomes too niche and isolating with any overt racism, she would alienate some of her audience and lose popularity. Most of the popular alt right edgelords are in the same boat.
You're right and that's exactly it in a nutshell: Its a popularity contest for them, about making money and having followers, more than it is out of sincerity for the actual issues. Others, like me and some friends of mine who also write/speak about these issues, don't make money off this so we have to work actual jobs and do this on the side. But at the very least, we don't compromise our principles like them.
Sean-Jobst
03-21-2018, 05:40 PM
You betcha potato ass I am
That explains a lot then. You'd like me to consider myself an "American mutt" with no identity, and not having any awareness that I am proudly from those German "Amalekites".
markleslienicknak
03-22-2018, 03:33 AM
This thread is so ridiculous. Someone takes a test, finds out that they are Samaritan, and decides to take that identity and incorporate it into their existence (from which it was absent before), fill themselves with literature and animosity and anger over the maltreatment of Palestinians for the purpose of identity formation, and then becomes anti-Semitic. It amazes me how people define themselves and how damaging it is to others when they dwell on the past and endless lineages, both Jew and Gentile alike. If your search for genetic identity does anything less than improve your understanding and kinship to all of humanity then you are deluded as all of us share a significant amount of DNA.
On the other hand, if you want to go into the treatment of Palestinians by Israel, Britain's role in this, general human rights violations ON BOTH SIDES, a discussion of the religious mandate in Judaism to treat the stranger who chooses to live peaceably among you as a neighbor, etc. etc. then that is perfectly reasonable. It just has no place in a Genetics sub-forum.
StonyArabia
03-28-2018, 05:53 AM
Hey man, I score 1% Ashkenazi, I am going to convert to Judaism and start looking down on the ethno-cultural group I was raised in and the darker people in my ethno-cultural group, I am going to say they are Bedouins,Gazans, Saudis, and so on. Damn those sandniggers who took our land from us. Shit I also get lots of Georgian Jewish and even Sephardic proxies on both gemdatch and mcDonald I am true blue Jew. We are together in this. I agree those damn Arabian sandniggs took over so many lands, and changed us, it's time to proclaim our identity to the Euros who are the master race, and to the Jews who are not only the master race but a higher plain beings. Please Euros and Jews, open us the gate to your wonderful club of beacon and civility. Levantine pride world wide yo.
Yep quite silly is it not? Sounds very Uncle Tomish.
I am proud of my ancestry thank you very much, and I don't need anyone's approval. My ancestors created wonderful civilizations like the Kedarites, Nabateans, Sabeans, Thumidic, Saifitic, Liyhanite, and Midianites.
Skjaldemjøden
03-28-2018, 07:08 AM
Hebrew surname, yes. From Denmark. It's a Jewish surname from Denmark. Here's the source: https://dbs.bh.org.il/familyname/simonsen
Simonsen is not an uncommon surname in Denmark today. You're oblivious to the fact that Danish surnames only date back to the mid-19th century, when patronyms were affixed by law. The vast majority of Simonsens out there just happened to have a paternal-line ancestor whose first name was Simon when the law was passed. And Simon was and remains common first name for Danes.
Simonsen is not an uncommon surname in Denmark today. You're oblivious to the fact that Danish surnames only date back to the mid-19th century, when patronyms were affixed by law. The vast majority of Simonsens out there just happened to have a paternal-line ancestor whose first name was Simon when the law was passed. And Simon was and remains common first name for Danes.
Yeah, back in the day people didn't have surnames. For example, most people of the Caucasus and Central Asia were given surnames only under the Soviet rule. If someone's father was called Ali, he would become Aliyev, if his father was Magomed (Mohammed), he would be Magomedov and so on.
Gangrel
03-28-2018, 10:31 AM
Yeah, back in the day people didn't have surnames. For example, most people of the Caucasus and Central Asia were given surnames only under the Soviet rule. If someone's father was called Ali, he would become Aliyev, if his father was Magomed (Mohammed), he would be Magomedov and so on.
What would Aliyev's son be called?
What would Aliyev's son be called?
He would simply inherit his father's surname as you and I did. As far as I know, the same happened in Turkey after 1923, didn't it?
Gangrel
03-28-2018, 02:11 PM
He would simply inherit his father's surname as you and I did. As far as I know, the same happened in Turkey after 1923, didn't it?
Not sure about that, but it is common to have the same name as your great grandparent, like I did for example
Not sure about that, but it is common to have the same name as your great grandparent, like I did for example
No, you got me wrong. I mean surnames were given to ordinary people after the end of the Ottoman empire, right?
User50
04-04-2018, 01:19 AM
Palestinians are backwards people uncapable of builting a civilization, whether they are muslims are not, they are both low iq monkeys. So i can understand why Jews aka the real holy people consider your kind disgusting and inferior. Israel is a peaceful nation, whether they accept east asians, blacks, hispanic jews etc along with christians, that aint your concern, if your father has abandon you let it go and move on, your step father the arabs have adopted you and made you even more inferior than you already are
I dont buy the crap that your people have jewish ancestry, your people arent holy but a bastard race send from hell to destroy israel, real christians like me read the bible and we will not be deceived by the brown camel devils like you who want to steal jewish identity
Lol. And niggers are totally capable of building a civilizations to you.
StonyArabia
04-06-2018, 06:10 AM
No, they really are not.
After finding it out what they had done behind the scenes toward Iraq I began to dislike them. Peaceful my ass
AK-47
04-06-2018, 06:19 AM
Try using your energy in a productive fashion, and accomplish something with your life.
The only way Israel will ever be destroyed, is if the entire Muslim middle east commits suicide.
For instance, if Iran nuked Tel Aviv, all of Iran would be reduced to glass and so would the Arab states.
This is just reality.
Sad that Arabs have 22 nations, and they can't live in peace with one tiny Jewish majority state.
The "Palestinians" could have had a state in 1948, but they chose war and terrorism, over the welfare of their own people.
StonyArabia
04-06-2018, 06:39 AM
Try using your energy in a productive fashion, and accomplish something with your life.
The only way Israel will ever be destroyed, is if the entire Muslim middle east commits suicide.
For instance, if Iran nuked Tel Aviv, all of Iran would be reduced to glass and so would the Arab states.
This is just reality.
Sad that Arabs have 22 nations, and they can't live in peace with one tiny Jewish majority state.
The "Palestinians" could have had a state in 1948, but they chose war and terrorism, over the welfare of their own people.
Iran would not do it, it's a secret ally with Israel lol, they even were given weapons by Israel in the Iraq-Iran war
AK-47
04-06-2018, 06:46 AM
Iran would not do it, it's a secret ally with Israel lol, they even were given weapons by Israel in the Iraq-Iran war
The Iran-Iraq war ended 30 years ago.
The Islamo-Nazi regime in Tehran spews genocidal bile against Israel daily.
Expansionist Iran is pushing the region to the brink of war.
StonyArabia
04-06-2018, 06:53 AM
The Iran-Iraq war ended 30 years ago.
The Islamo-Nazi regime in Tehran spews genocidal bile against Israel daily.
Expansionist Iran is pushing the region to the brink of war.
True but none the less they accepted Israeli support. Nah they are just talks and bsing, they can't do anything nor will act on it. I would not call them Islamo-Nazis but rather neo-Safavidism because that's the system and ideology they follow.Yes Iran's ambitions in the region has been very destructive I am in total agreement with you on that one. But the Americans empowered it, though indirect means, plus it was also an American ally in the current Iraq war, so it's not strange they might be one of Israel's ally just not in public, especially since they are getting quite the hate from Iraqis, Syrians and Yemenis.
Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
04-14-2018, 09:16 PM
Zionism yes, I'll give you that.
But Communism and Marxism are not "Jewish ideologies" just because one Jew founded the ideologies. Do you really think most Jews, one of the wealthiest groups benefitting most from capitalism, believe in these ideologies?
Karl marx was a german wasnt he?
Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
04-14-2018, 09:17 PM
Lol. And niggers are totally capable of building a civilizations to you.They did build civilizations.
Karl marx was a german wasnt he?
He was of Ashkenazi Jewish origin.
They did build civilizations.
None of their cultures can be seriously called a 'civilization'.
Kamal900
04-14-2018, 09:39 PM
Karl marx was a german wasnt he?
He was Jewish..
happycow
04-14-2018, 09:41 PM
I don't understand why you hate Muslims and MENAs so much. Did you have a bad experience with some or something? Because it sounds like you did to me. You seriously need to meet more muslims and menas in person. Most will be nice, I promise. And if any are mean to you, I apologize on behalf of all muslims.
LOL... why are you apologizing on behalf of all muslims and middle eastern people? Do not apologize on my behalf... Pretty sure that carlito guy is a mestizo? Here in the south its pretty common for blacks and mestizos to shit talk middle easterners, when they aren't trying to kill each other.
Bobby Martnen
04-14-2018, 09:42 PM
LOL... why are you apologizing on behalf of all muslims and middle eastern people? Do not apologize on my behalf... Pretty sure that carlito guy is a mestizo? Here in the south its pretty common for blacks and mestizos to shit talk middle easterners, when they aren't trying to kill each other.
Carlito is half North Italian, half Mexican. His DNA results are somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% Europe, 6% SSA, 4% Amerindian.
Carlito is half North Italian, half Mexican. His DNA results are somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% Europe, 6% SSA, 4% Amerindian.
VERY representative for a half Mexican, lol. But wait, he identifies as a strong Black man and dislikes white people.
Here in the south its pretty common for blacks and mestizos to shit talk middle easterners, when they aren't trying to kill each other.
That's cause Middle Easterners are still whiter than blacks and cholos. :lol:
Kamal900
04-14-2018, 09:46 PM
None of their cultures can be seriously called a 'civilization'.
No..but I wouldn't call them stupid either even though Aframs do commit the most crime in America. I do feel sorry for the Whites of South Africa though.
Kamal900
04-14-2018, 09:48 PM
LOL... why are you apologizing on behalf of all muslims and middle eastern people? Do not apologize on my behalf... Pretty sure that carlito guy is a mestizo? Here in the south its pretty common for blacks and mestizos to shit talk middle easterners, when they aren't trying to kill each other.
He's actually predominantly White though..yeah.
No..but I wouldn't call them stupid either even though Aframs do commit the most crime in America. I do feel sorry for the Whites of South Africa though.
Authentic rural Africans are much better than the inner city ghetto-dwelling niggers of America. Hip-hop culture is cancer and pure degeneracy.
Bobby Martnen
04-14-2018, 09:49 PM
VERY representative for a half Mexican, lol. But wait, he identifies as a strong Black man and dislikes white people.
His Mexican mom is probably like 80% Euro, 8% Mestizo, and 12% African. I've never seen a Mexican that's more black than Amerindian. He probably has some identity issues.
happycow
04-14-2018, 09:50 PM
That's cause Middle Easterners are still whiter than blacks and cholos. :lol:
LOL, tis the truth. I received so much grief from them, i was always called white boy, gringo and pinche guerro. this is why i have no problem with white people. they were always interested in learning about me while the mexicans and blacks were more concerned over my race than anything else :picard2::rolleyes:
LOL, tis the truth. I received so much grief from them, i was always called white boy, gringo and pinche guerro. this is why i have no problem with white people. they were always interested in learning about me while the mexicans and blacks were more concerned over my race than anything else :picard2::rolleyes:
You're probably one of the light-skinned Arabs, aren't you?
happycow
04-14-2018, 09:56 PM
You're probably one of the light-skinned Arabs, aren't you?
haha yeah. white people of course knew that I wasn't a white european, or hispanic really. i dont look it. so I always got the "where are you from?" questions. but to the hispanics and blacks I was just another white boy. lol.
StonyArabia
04-14-2018, 10:46 PM
LOL... why are you apologizing on behalf of all muslims and middle eastern people? Do not apologize on my behalf... Pretty sure that carlito guy is a mestizo? Here in the south its pretty common for blacks and mestizos to shit talk middle easterners, when they aren't trying to kill each other.
They just envy our success that's all to it or they think whites are going to accept them if they attack ME'rs lol.
Smeagol
04-14-2018, 10:49 PM
No..but I wouldn't call them stupid either even though Aframs do commit the most crime in America. I do feel sorry for the Whites of South Africa though.
Most of them are pretty stupid.
Bobby Martnen
04-14-2018, 11:05 PM
acording to the return of low you can come :)
I don't think he could. IIRC, you have to be at least 25% Jewish for that, and he's only ~18%
Bobby Martnen
04-14-2018, 11:06 PM
when I see people like Gigi Hadid's family I would not be surprised.
She's 1/2 Dutch
She's 1/2 Dutch
Her father doesn't look Arab either.
I don't think he could. IIRC, you have to be at least 25% Jewish for that, and he's only ~18%
Yes, at least one grandparent who was Jewish under the Jewish law.
Bobby Martnen
04-14-2018, 11:12 PM
Yes, at least one grandparent who was Jewish under the Jewish law.
Well, his paternal grandfather was rabbinically Jewish, IIRC, his paternal grandfather had 3 Jewish grandparents and a Russian paternal grandfather.
StonyArabia
04-14-2018, 11:22 PM
LOL, tis the truth. I received so much grief from them, i was always called white boy, gringo and pinche guerro. this is why i have no problem with white people. they were always interested in learning about me while the mexicans and blacks were more concerned over my race than anything else :picard2::rolleyes:
Not the first time I hear of it, especially from Texas. Here in Alberta though Levantines act wiggerish to be honest. Most Levantines here are Lebanese. You will see them often see them wearing baseball caps backwards, their pants down, wearing large gold or sliver chains with large Cross and Zulifkar, or the cedar tree pendants. They also try to talking in ebonics with Levantine Arabic accent English, and honestly it looked quite pathetic. There is also this Levantine wigger called Missari. I am not even Levantine and felt shame to truth be told. Then you have some of them on the opposite side wanting to be Greek and Italian, which is pretty pathetic as well.
Here is Massari what a Levantine wigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyjcwMAOzY
That's what the globalists want - they want all whites and non-whites to adopt a Negro-style rootless modern 'culture'. In the past blacks wanted to be like white people, now it's the opposite. Mainstream music is becoming more and more Negrified and not in the good sense like singing or playing jazz or blues, but adopting the hideous ghetto thuggish language and manners.
happycow
04-14-2018, 11:32 PM
Not the first time I hear of it, especially from Texas. Here in Alberta though Levantines act wiggerish to be honest. Most Levantines here are Lebanese. You will see them often see them wearing baseball caps backwards, their pants down, wearing large gold or sliver chains with large Cross and Zulifkar, or the cedar tree pendants. They also try to talking in ebonics with Levantine Arabic accent English, and honestly it looked quite pathetic. There is also this Levantine wigger called Missari. I am not even Levantine and felt shame to truth be told. Then you have some of them on the opposite side wanting to be Greek and Italian, which is pretty pathetic as well.
Here is Massari what a Levantine wigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyjcwMAOzY
Oh we have a problem with wigger levantines and middle easterners here too lol. they try to hang out with the cholo's or blacks, sag their pants, do drugs, etc. I even had an algerian friend who would try to act "hard" so he can appeal to the majority hispanics in school. it was quite sad, but it was one of the only ways to get people off your back lol
DJ khaled is pretty disgraceful too lol. And that music video is awful. :rotfl In texas many middle easterners have some sort of infatuation with black culture, rap music etc. I haven't meant any levantines who want to be greek or italian but certainly no shortage of the wigger types lol.
StonyArabia
04-14-2018, 11:45 PM
Oh we have a problem with wigger levantines and middle easterners here too lol. they try to hang out with the cholo's or blacks, sag their pants, do drugs, etc. I even had an algerian friend who would try to act "hard" so he can appeal to the majority hispanics in school. it was quite sad, but it was one of the only ways to get people off your back lol
We don't have much Hispanics here or Blacks ironically. However some Levantines think being a Wigger is being cool, but they don't know they are making themselves into fools and laughing stocks. That Algerian should be ashamed of himself, since he comes from great people and culture. Though that's understandable. Here we have East Asian and South Asians they for the most part tend to be focused on school and career. We also some Gulf Arabs here, but they never interact with other groups they usually stay in their own bubble, but would often be-friend Iraqis, some of whom tend to be wiggers. I think some of them adopt Wigger culture because they don't feel in common with White culture, and they share some elements with Black culture lol, but this is mostly a North-American thing I believe.
DJ khaled is pretty disgraceful too lol. And that music video is awful. :rotfl In texas many middle easterners have some sort of infatuation with black culture, rap music etc. I haven't meant any levantines who want to be greek or italian but certainly no shortage of the wigger types lol.
Pretty big disgrace, indeed. They usually see they are Italian or Greek when they want to date, but at times still act Wiggerish. Massari is well known Wigger and quite disgrace.
Kivan
04-14-2018, 11:48 PM
That's what the globalists want - they want all whites and non-whites to adopt a Negro-style rootless modern 'culture'. In the past blacks wanted to be like white people, now it's the opposite. Mainstream music is becoming more and more Negrified and not in the good sense like singing or playing jazz or blues, but adopting the hideous ghetto thuggish language and manners.
https://peppermintfrosted.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/rapculture.jpg
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Tooting Carmen
04-15-2018, 05:27 AM
I've met a good few South Asian wiggers too.
Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
04-15-2018, 06:20 AM
None of their cultures can be seriously called a 'civilization'.Songhai empire, ghana empire, mali empire, oyo empire, benin empire. kanem' bornu, nok culture, djnee-djnenno, kingdom of saloum, hausa, fulani empire, sosso empire, sokoto caliphate, asante empire, dahoumey kingdom, aro confederacy,
Bura culture burkina faso 1200bc
Mossi kingdoms. Takur, soninke,
Most europeans were just savages in antiquity. Only meds were civilized in europe and some balkans people.
Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
04-15-2018, 07:04 AM
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0132632
The production of iron in forested areas of west and central Africa dates back to 2800–2700 yr BP [34–42]; but see [43–47]. Archaeological sites with evidence of metallurgy in the form of iron implements, furnaces, forges, and/or slag become widespread throughout forested areas of west Africa between 1700–1900 BP [41,48,49] and in central Africa between 2,200 and 2,100 BP [50] (cf. [51,52]). In the historic and ethnographic record, raw metal and formed objects were used as money for commercial transactions, were received as taxes and obligatory payments including bride price, served as symbols of power and wealth, figured prominently into rituals and mythology, and had utilitarian functions as tools and weaponry [53–55]. Despite the introduction of imported iron and metal objects during the historic period, the use and production of indigenously produced raw iron and objects continued and in some areas reached peak production levels [56] well into the 19thcentury and persisted into the ethnographic record [26,57]. However, despite the clear cultural, sociopolitical, and spiritual importance of iron, its role in shaping vegetation communities in the Central Africa forest is generally presumed to be negligible
Songhai empire, ghana empire, mali empire, oyo empire, benin empire. kanem' bornu, nok culture, djnee-djnenno, kingdom of saloum, hausa, fulani empire, sosso empire, sokoto caliphate, asante empire, dahoumey kingdom, aro confederacy,
Bura culture burkina faso 1200bc
Mossi kingdoms. Takur, soninke,
Most europeans were just savages in antiquity. Only meds were civilized in europe and some balkans people.
Kingdoms and caliphates are not necessarily CIVILIZATIONS. If they had no writing, they can't be considered a civilization.
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