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Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 06:24 PM
Since ppl mainly said i looked Latino or Middle Eastern, i would wonder what does that mean in "Phenotype" as in "atlanto-med, med, dinaric etc terms? I would appreciate it if you guys could guess my Phenotype- and also my aunt's while your at it please XD i'm currently doing research on my father's side of the family trying to help my aunt figure out her family so yeah if you guys could tell me what phenotype you are seeing i would appreciate it haha

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^ front view

71638

^ tilted front view

71639

^ side view (i had 2 fucking resize this one because the website is being a dick lol)


and here for my aunt's (shes the woman on the right with the dark hair btw)

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thanks in advance, lemme know whatever you think i will accept any comment haha

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 07:52 PM
heres also 1 Dodecad test to just show what i usually score on there, maybe it will help you judge things idk really.


Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 37.44
2 Neo_African 15.68
3 Mediterranean 15.08
4 East_European 9.09
5 Palaeo_African 8.11
6 West_Asian 5.92
7 East_African 3.11
8 Southwest_Asian 1.90
9 Northeast_Asian 1.28
10 South_Asian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Slovenian_Xing @ 24.081734
2 N._European_Xing @ 25.746498
3 German_Dodecad @ 25.804239
4 CEU_HapMap @ 26.651060
5 Argyll_1000 Genomes @ 27.100119
6 Hungarians_Behar @ 27.123388
7 Orcadian_HGDP @ 27.879148
8 Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 27.918325
9 French_HGDP @ 30.299143
10 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 30.326633
11 French_Dodecad @ 30.477335
12 Dutch_Dodecad @ 31.663853
13 Tuscan_Xing @ 32.544338
14 Tuscan_Henn @ 32.868088
15 TSI_HapMap @ 33.249676
16 Kent_1000 Genomes @ 33.501522
17 Balkans_Dodecad @ 33.844997
18 Swedish_Dodecad @ 34.124325
19 FIN_1000Genomes @ 34.409260
20 Romanians_14_Behar @ 34.549145

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ASW_HapMap +50% Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 10.825508


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +25% Romanians_14_Behar +25% Brong_Henn @ 3.425532


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.336020
2 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.359573
3 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.411515
4 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.417450
5 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.483933
6 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.505350
7 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.509340
8 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.538645
9 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.544745
10 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.575923
11 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.585017
12 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.598593
13 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.599621
14 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Henn @ 2.603487
15 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.619074
16 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Dogon_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.625790
17 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Tuscan_Henn + Bambaran_Xing @ 2.627121
18 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Henn @ 2.655639
19 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Bamoun_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.665755
20 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.671687

greasycaveman
01-15-2018, 08:00 PM
Eurafricanid

Kamal900
01-15-2018, 08:03 PM
You look quite Egyptian to me, but you can pass in the southern levantine.

Kelmendasi
01-15-2018, 08:04 PM
Eurafricanid
Isnt Eurafricanid just Atlanto-Med http://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html

greasycaveman
01-15-2018, 08:08 PM
Isnt Eurafricanid just Atlanto-Med http://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html

its not. if you count that as being atlanto med, then berberid is also atlanto med.

Kelmendasi
01-15-2018, 08:10 PM
its not. if you count that as being atlanto med, then berberid is also atlanto med.
Idk, there is says “Atlanto-Mediterraneanid proper”. I don’t really pay attention to these things so I don’t know much about them.

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 08:16 PM
You look quite Egyptian to me, but you can pass in the southern levantine.

O lol damn, that's funny. Alot of people also vote for me looking middle eastern, funnily enough i am not more than 10% berber XD

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 08:18 PM
Eurafricanid

That's interesting haha it actually does pretty much fit me except for the being tall part, i am relatively below average on most countries

greasycaveman
01-15-2018, 08:21 PM
That's interesting haha it actually does pretty much fit me except for the being tall part, i am relatively below average on most countries

well you arent done growing.

i was like 5'3 when i was in my late 15s, now i am 5'10

Kamal900
01-15-2018, 08:22 PM
That's interesting haha it actually does pretty much fit me except for the being tall part, i am relatively below average on most countries

Berbers are genetically North Africans in contrast to Egyptians who are genetically Middle Eastern.

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 08:23 PM
well you arent done growing.

i was like 5'3 when i was 16, now i am 5'10

nigga wat, you are much taller than i am XD i am. My max height estimated by doctors n shit was 1.74 metres, i am currently 1.72 metres or a bit more. i'm fackt.

greasycaveman
01-15-2018, 08:24 PM
nigga wat, you are much taller than i am XD i am. My max height estimated by doctors n shit was 1.74 metres, i am currently 1.72 metres or a bit more. i'm fackt.

yeah but what i am saying, you are not done growing. see the big difference in my height from late 15 to 17 years old?

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 08:26 PM
Berbers are genetically North Africans in contrast to Egyptians who are genetically Middle Eastern.

Well i suppose that's true yeah, berbers are the true north africans. Egyptians are rather more arab than anything. It could be that i am middle eastern looking because of my Berber + Italian/Hispanic combo, it definitely impacted my phenotype for sure.

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 08:26 PM
yeah but what i am saying, you are not done growing. see the big difference in my height from late 15 to 17 years old?

Yeah that's true, when i was 15 i was probably 1.50 if not less XD

greasycaveman
01-15-2018, 08:27 PM
Well i suppose that's true yeah, berbers are the true north africans. Egyptians are rather more arab than anything. It could be that i am middle eastern looking because of my Berber + Italian/Hispanic combo, it definitely impacted my phenotype for sure.

how did you get so diverse? lol

Congolese Rice
01-15-2018, 08:28 PM
how did you get so diverse? lol

idk, my family fucked alotta people thats for sure. As i said before even McDonald claimed that no current systen or whatever could do a reliable job for me, aka i am fucked when it comes to my ethnicity i am everything and everywhere XD

Kamal900
01-15-2018, 08:32 PM
Well i suppose that's true yeah, berbers are the true north africans. Egyptians are rather more arab than anything. It could be that i am middle eastern looking because of my Berber + Italian/Hispanic combo, it definitely impacted my phenotype for sure.

Hmm, their middle eastern heritage isn't really Arabic considering that Arabs were a very small minority group in Egypt back in the 7th century and beyond. Their genetic ties to the middle east is much more ancient than that:

At the genome-wide level, Egypt is quite similar to its Levantine neighbours, displaying a mainly Near Eastern (39.8%) and Arabian/North African (30.5%) background, with slightly higher western (5.6%) and eastern (15.1%) African proportions, and lower European (8.4%) and South Asian (0.6%) proportions. The ROLLOFF estimate for admixture in Egypt (using Africans and Europeans as ancestral populations) was 30 generations, predictably young due to continuous gene flow between the two regions. Morocco and Tunisia presented similar western (9.8–12.2%) and eastern African (10.4–12.1%) components and roughly twice the magnitude for each of the European (22.8–25.5%), Near Eastern (21.4–26.0%) and Arabian (28.9–31.0%) pools. Again these young dates show that simple genome-wide dating approaches based on linkage disequilibrium decay must be applied cautiously in complex scenarios of several migrations occurring over a long span of time, such as the ones which took place across the Red Sea, North Africa [56] and Iberia [57].
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?209472-Genetic-Stratigraphy-of-Key-Demographic-Events-in-Arabia

Hadouken
01-15-2018, 08:35 PM
idk, my family fucked alotta people thats for sure.

:lol:

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 05:56 AM
Hmm, their middle eastern heritage isn't really Arabic considering that Arabs were a very small minority group in Egypt back in the 7th century and beyond. Their genetic ties to the middle east is much more ancient than that:

Well on most tests i generally tend to score around 2-4.50% near eastern, and around 5-8% west asian, combined it's around 13% broadly middle eastern or so, however tests somehow never seem 2 show me that i have ANY North african at all, whilst McDonald does say so so i am fairly skeptical if i actually have north african but sure i'll take his word for it.

Meagi
01-16-2018, 06:45 AM
I think you look arabid. I voted.
Hi, if you have time and want to, could you please answer my thread about alix bromley? I haven't got any answers yet. Thanl you.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 06:57 AM
I think you look arabid. I voted.
Hi, if you have time and want to, could you please answer my thread about alix bromley? I haven't got any answers yet. Thanl you.

Thanks lol, and sure i will tryna check it out

Zroota
01-16-2018, 08:57 AM
Atlanto-Mediterranean with something else (need too see more brighter facial pictures).

RN97
01-16-2018, 09:00 AM
U mah nigga

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +25% Romanians_14_Behar +25%

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 09:44 AM
U mah nigga

mah nigga mah nigga

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 09:46 AM
Atlanto-Mediterranean with something else (need too see more brighter facial pictures).

71666

71667

71668

here are a few more pics 2 help u judge haha

Zroota
01-16-2018, 09:54 AM
71666

71667

71668

here are a few more pics 2 help u judge haha
I see a little bit of Dinarid as well. :)

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 09:57 AM
I see a little bit of Dinarid as well. :)

COULD be possible, i am not for certain but i also score alot of bulgarian, croatian, bosnian and russian etc, probably also from my dad's side but i think my general mediterranean is higher because more frequently i score hispanic and italian haha

Ajeje Brazorf
01-16-2018, 10:08 AM
Overall European looking, although in some of your photos I can see something Amerindian. I'd be interested to see your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 10:11 AM
Overall European looking, although in some of your photos I can see something Amerindian. I'd be interested to see your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results.

well unfortunately all tests are incredibly unreliable for me and eurogenes most so, i am generally around a quarter mediterranean and around 10% middle eastern adding up to 34% mediterranean or so, but eurogenes kills all my percentages and turns me into a fullblood northwestern european which i know is not true xd

Ajeje Brazorf
01-16-2018, 10:19 AM
well unfortunately all tests are incredibly unreliable for me and eurogenes most so, i am generally around a quarter mediterranean and around 10% middle eastern adding up to 34% mediterranean or so, but eurogenes kills all my percentages and turns me into a fullblood northwestern european which i know is not true xd

I wonder if Eurogenes really shows one person's real ancestry...

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 10:26 AM
I wonder if Eurogenes really shows one person's real ancestry...

well no, they compare your dna 2 the populations they have in their data base and then it shows how much alike your data is 2 their reference population, however i seem 2 score alot of italian and mediterranean except for Eurogenes, with the exception for 2 or 3 tests on Eurogenes, which being the hunter farmers test, i think K11 or K10 and ANE K7 maybe, for the rest Eurogenes is shit for me. Here check out my Dodecad V3 test.


Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 37.44
2 Neo_African 15.68
3 Mediterranean 15.08
4 East_European 9.09
5 Palaeo_African 8.11
6 West_Asian 5.92
7 East_African 3.11
8 Southwest_Asian 1.90
9 Northeast_Asian 1.28
10 South_Asian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Slovenian_Xing @ 24.081734
2 N._European_Xing @ 25.746498
3 German_Dodecad @ 25.804239
4 CEU_HapMap @ 26.651060
5 Argyll_1000 Genomes @ 27.100119
6 Hungarians_Behar @ 27.123388
7 Orcadian_HGDP @ 27.879148
8 Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 27.918325
9 French_HGDP @ 30.299143
10 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 30.326633
11 French_Dodecad @ 30.477335
12 Dutch_Dodecad @ 31.663853
13 Tuscan_Xing @ 32.544338
14 Tuscan_Henn @ 32.868088
15 TSI_HapMap @ 33.249676
16 Kent_1000 Genomes @ 33.501522
17 Balkans_Dodecad @ 33.844997
18 Swedish_Dodecad @ 34.124325
19 FIN_1000Genomes @ 34.409260
20 Romanians_14_Behar @ 34.549145

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ASW_HapMap +50% Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 10.825508


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +25% Romanians_14_Behar +25% Brong_Henn @ 3.425532


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.336020
2 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.359573
3 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.411515
4 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.417450
5 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.483933
6 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.505350
7 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.509340
8 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.538645
9 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.544745
10 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.575923
11 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.585017
12 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.598593
13 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.599621
14 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Henn @ 2.603487
15 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.619074
16 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Dogon_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.625790
17 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Tuscan_Henn + Bambaran_Xing @ 2.627121
18 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Henn @ 2.655639
19 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Bamoun_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.665755
20 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.671687


as you can see theres alot of tuscan here, but i think it's instead south italian or Sicilian because my Aunt on my dad's side also mentioned that my grandfather was dark skinned (european standards) and so is my aunt kinda, she has very dark brown hair and dark brown eyes, and a naturally tan skin and ppl also mentioned she looked italian so it could be true for all i know

Ajeje Brazorf
01-16-2018, 10:34 AM
well no, they compare your dna 2 the populations they have in their data base and then it shows how much alike your data is 2 their reference population, however i seem 2 score alot of italian and mediterranean except for Eurogenes, with the exception for 2 or 3 tests on Eurogenes, which being the hunter farmers test, i think K11 or K10 and ANE K7 maybe, for the rest Eurogenes is shit for me. Here check out my Dodecad V3 test.


Dodecad V3 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European 37.44
2 Neo_African 15.68
3 Mediterranean 15.08
4 East_European 9.09
5 Palaeo_African 8.11
6 West_Asian 5.92
7 East_African 3.11
8 Southwest_Asian 1.90
9 Northeast_Asian 1.28
10 South_Asian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
12 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Slovenian_Xing @ 24.081734
2 N._European_Xing @ 25.746498
3 German_Dodecad @ 25.804239
4 CEU_HapMap @ 26.651060
5 Argyll_1000 Genomes @ 27.100119
6 Hungarians_Behar @ 27.123388
7 Orcadian_HGDP @ 27.879148
8 Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 27.918325
9 French_HGDP @ 30.299143
10 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 30.326633
11 French_Dodecad @ 30.477335
12 Dutch_Dodecad @ 31.663853
13 Tuscan_Xing @ 32.544338
14 Tuscan_Henn @ 32.868088
15 TSI_HapMap @ 33.249676
16 Kent_1000 Genomes @ 33.501522
17 Balkans_Dodecad @ 33.844997
18 Swedish_Dodecad @ 34.124325
19 FIN_1000Genomes @ 34.409260
20 Romanians_14_Behar @ 34.549145

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ASW_HapMap +50% Orkney_1000 Genomes @ 10.825508


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian_Dodecad +25% Romanians_14_Behar +25% Brong_Henn @ 3.425532


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.336020
2 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.359573
3 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.411515
4 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.417450
5 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.483933
6 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.505350
7 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.509340
8 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.538645
9 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.544745
10 British_Isles_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.575923
11 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.585017
12 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.598593
13 British_Dodecad + FIN_1000Genomes + Hausa_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.599621
14 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Brong_Henn + Tuscan_Henn @ 2.603487
15 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Bambaran_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.619074
16 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Dogon_Xing + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.625790
17 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Tuscan_Henn + Bambaran_Xing @ 2.627121
18 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Henn @ 2.655639
19 FIN_1000Genomes + Irish_Dodecad + Bamoun_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.665755
20 Cornwall_1000 Genomes + FIN_1000Genomes + Igbo_Henn + Tuscan_Xing @ 2.671687


as you can see theres alot of tuscan here, but i think it's instead south italian or Sicilian because my Aunt on my dad's side also mentioned that my grandfather was dark skinned (european standards) and so is my aunt kinda, she has very dark brown hair and dark brown eyes, and a naturally tan skin and ppl also mentioned she looked italian so it could be true for all i know

Maybe you should try to run K36 and this: http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Gangrel
01-16-2018, 10:38 AM
U mah nigga

like you but less north african looking

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 11:18 AM
Maybe you should try to run K36 and this: http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Nope K36 is even worse for me as it kills literally all my percentages, allow me 2 demonstrate.


Population
Amerindian 1.41
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.17
Central_African 0.36
Central_Euro 2.47
East_African 0.78
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.72
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.33
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.31
Fennoscandian 10.27
French 8.43
Iberian 9.09
Indo-Chinese 0.41
Italian 1.62
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.35
North_African -
North_Atlantic 10.46
North_Caucasian 0.95
North_Sea 11.11
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.87
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 23.88
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

the moment i saw 10% fennoscandinavian i knew this was gonna be a bad test xd and also, where's my italian and where are my other middle eastern components because i am sure i score 10-14% on middle eastern in general, also K36 is highly speculative and is more accurate for homogenous people i think, ones that are less admixed like having both parents from Britain or Italy for example.

Ajeje Brazorf
01-16-2018, 11:28 AM
Nope K36 is even worse for me as it kills literally all my percentages, allow me 2 demonstrate.


Population
Amerindian 1.41
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.17
Central_African 0.36
Central_Euro 2.47
East_African 0.78
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.72
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.33
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.31
Fennoscandian 10.27
French 8.43
Iberian 9.09
Indo-Chinese 0.41
Italian 1.62
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.35
North_African -
North_Atlantic 10.46
North_Caucasian 0.95
North_Sea 11.11
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.87
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 23.88
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

the moment i saw 10% fennoscandinavian i knew this was gonna be a bad test xd and also, where's my italian and where are my other middle eastern components because i am sure i score 10-14% on middle eastern in general, also K36 is highly speculative and is more accurate for homogenous people i think, ones that are less admixed like having both parents from Britain or Italy for example.

K36 gives West_African as your main component and it is strange since it doesn't show completely in your phenotype. I heard lukaszM developed K47 but again I don't think these can be accurate at all.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 11:48 AM
K36 gives West_African as your main component and it is strange since it doesn't show completely in your phenotype. I heard lukaszM developed K47 but again I don't think these can be accurate at all.

Yeah and not only that, but i should technically also have berber, and a tiny bit of east african mixed with my african. They also underestimated my native american so i know for a fact that Eurogenes does not seem 2 work reliably for me, Dodecad, MDLP, PuntDNAL, and SOME Gedrosia tests are the only ones that seem 2 work for me, Dodecad accurately represents my ethnicity in every way shape and form. Doug McDonald also recommended Dodecad 2 me as he said so literally that Dodecad is the best for me. All Dodecad tests also show me having North Italian in every 1st reference population, it's usually down at the bottom but that doesn't exclude my italian from existing as in the 4 population approximations i tend to score alot more italian. Such as Tuscany, South italian, Sicilian, North italian. Mostly North italian though because the test thinks my DNA is most alike 2 them but i think its Sicilian.

I have this surname in my dad's family "Andre" and it also has italian origins from Venice.
I also have the surname "Simons" in my mom's family and it also has italian origins but rather from especially Sicily and South Italy. So i know its there haha

Trilecce
01-16-2018, 11:52 AM
Multiracials, both of you.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 11:54 AM
Myltiracials, both of you.

Multiracials as in which way? What do you guess my aunt would be? Atlanto-Med? Dinaric? Because tbh she looks very dark for a supposed "Northwestern" european as i once previously thought, but the possibility is that one of my grandparents is Sicilian.

Trilecce
01-16-2018, 11:58 AM
Multiracials as in which way? What do you guess my aunt would be? Atlanto-Med? Dinaric? Because tbh she looks very dark for a supposed "Northwestern" european as i once previously thought, but the possibility is that one of my grandparents is Sicilian.

East african negroid mixed with south european caucasoid, and a dash of native american. Caucasoid subraces like dinaric atlanto-med etc do not apply to you.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 12:01 PM
East african negroid mixed with south european caucasoid, and a dash of native american. Caucasoid subraces like dinaric atlanto-med etc do not apply to you.

O well that's cool, you are pretty correct in some way aswell, i am partially eastern african (only around 4-5% max though) mostly western african, 1/3th mediterranean (hispanic and italic) and further more northwestern european, sad 2 hear that u cant see the northwestern in me though. When i was a kid i was always so proud of my German heritage when i heard i had it hahahah, anyway what do you think about my aunt friend? Does she also look South european or not? I think she looks fairly scottish

Trilecce
01-16-2018, 12:07 PM
O well that's cool, you are pretty correct in some way aswell, i am partially eastern african (only around 4-5% max though) mostly western african, 1/3th mediterranean (hispanic and italic) and further more northwestern european, sad 2 hear that u cant see the northwestern in me though. When i was a kid i was always so proud of my German heritage when i heard i had it hahahah, anyway what do you think about my aunt friend? Does she also look South european or not? I think she looks fairly scottish

No dude, your aunt doesnt look scottish. The country where you and your aunt would fit the best in is BRAZIL. The land of multiracials, and most of them have your exact components.

Ajeje Brazorf
01-16-2018, 12:11 PM
Yeah and not only that, but i should technically also have berber, and a tiny bit of east african mixed with my african. They also underestimated my native american so i know for a fact that Eurogenes does not seem 2 work reliably for me, Dodecad, MDLP, PuntDNAL, and SOME Gedrosia tests are the only ones that seem 2 work for me, Dodecad accurately represents my ethnicity in every way shape and form. Doug McDonald also recommended Dodecad 2 me as he said so literally that Dodecad is the best for me. All Dodecad tests also show me having North Italian in every 1st reference population, it's usually down at the bottom but that doesn't exclude my italian from existing as in the 4 population approximations i tend to score alot more italian. Such as Tuscany, South italian, Sicilian, North italian. Mostly North italian though because the test thinks my DNA is most alike 2 them but i think its Sicilian.

I have this surname in my dad's family "Andre" and it also has italian origins from Venice.
I also have the surname "Simons" in my mom's family and it also has italian origins but rather from especially Sicily and South Italy. So i know its there haha

Andre and Simons are not Italian surnames as far as I know.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 12:13 PM
No dude, your aunt doesnt look scottish. The country where you and your aunt would fit the best in is BRAZIL. The land of multiracials, and most of them have your exact components.

That's very interesting too, i think i would love Brazil. But idk for my aunt. My dad's family is like 40-60% northwestern european, 40% mediterranean (mainly french and italian) and very likely around 15-23% middle eastern because of the ASSUMED Sicilian in me, where else would the Near eastern and West asian components come from. Definitely not from my African side that's for sure.

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 12:34 PM
Andre and Simons are not Italian surnames as far as I know.

https://www.houseofnames.com/Simons-family-crest/Italian

https://www.houseofnames.com/Andre-family-crest/Italian


no it might not sound or actually BE 100% Italian but it does apparently have origins there, and it would make most sense since "Simons" on my mom's side doesn't look fairly british or english to me, everybody on my mom's side except 1-2 people have black hair, also including me 3 people because my hair isnt pure black, so yeah i think it would have more chance of being Italian or something in my case.

Ajeje Brazorf
01-16-2018, 12:50 PM
https://www.houseofnames.com/Simons-family-crest/Italian

https://www.houseofnames.com/Andre-family-crest/Italian


no it might not sound or actually BE 100% Italian but it does apparently have origins there, and it would make most sense since "Simons" on my mom's side doesn't look fairly british or english to me, everybody on my mom's side except 1-2 people have black hair, also including me 3 people because my hair isnt pure black, so yeah i think it would have more chance of being Italian or something in my case.

There are many countries with Simon-variants as a surname, but this doesn't mean they all originate from Italy.

https://i.imgur.com/3EAZP8x.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/O2nBZ2j.png

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 01:06 PM
There are many countries with Simon-variants as a surname, but this doesn't mean they all originate from Italy.

https://i.imgur.com/3EAZP8x.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/O2nBZ2j.png

No i know they don't have 2 originate from Italy but it's a assumption. Since my mom's family are 95% black haired i assume that theres a great chance that they are rather from more southern or warm climate countries instead of from Britain, cause i think i also have like a few percentages italian from my mom's side

Congolese Rice
01-16-2018, 01:09 PM
There are many countries with Simon-variants as a surname, but this doesn't mean they all originate from Italy.

https://i.imgur.com/3EAZP8x.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/O2nBZ2j.png

I also have these surnames in my family.

Lee

Michel

Da costa gomez

And a few others, and it says here "Lee, present in 85 communities" so that could also be a indicator of possible Italian ancestry, every surname i type in in the website you used there are some people with the surnames so yeah i guess it's ok.