help interpreting my genetic results

[torgun0010]

Hello, everyone sorry for the question here but I was adopted so trying to find out my origins
Admix Results (sorted):
mdlp world
# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 44.79
2 North_and_East_European 35.89
3 Caucaus_Parsia 10.88
4 Middle_East 7.31
5 Sub_Saharian 0.59
6 North_Asian 0.28
7 Arctic_Amerind 0.11
8 Mesoamerican 0.1
9 Paleo_African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 1.76
2 Croatian 2.95
3 Serbian 3.53
4 Hungarian 4.48
5 Austrian 4.99
6 German-South 5.6
7 German_V 5.95
8 Slovenian 6.3
9 Montenegrin 6.31
10 Macedonian 6.71
11 CEU_V 7.76
12 CEU 8.51
13 Croatian_V 8.56
14 Swiss 8.62
15 British 8.83
16 Czech 9.06
17 Bulgarian 9.24
18 Welsh 9.42
19 German 9.51
20 Orcadian 9.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% German-North + 28.7% Italian-Center @ 0.71
2 60% Macedonian + 40% German-North @ 0.79
3 73.3% German-North + 26.7% Italian-South @ 0.8
4 54.8% Croatian + 45.2% Serbian @ 0.84
5 68.9% Croatian + 31.1% Montenegrin @ 0.85
6 87.5% German_V + 12.5% Jew_Tunisia @ 0.88
7 85% Bosnian + 15% Swiss @ 0.9
8 70.8% Montenegrin + 29.2% Sorb @ 0.91
9 76.7% German_V + 23.3% Ashkenazim_V @ 0.91
10 87.4% Bosnian + 12.6% Provancal @ 0.92
11 84.1% Serbian + 15.9% Polish_V @ 0.93
12 87.9% German_V + 12.1% Jew_Libya @ 0.95
13 71.8% German-North + 28.2% Greek_East @ 0.95
14 81.7% Serbian + 18.3% Sorb @ 0.96
15 74.3% Montenegrin + 25.7% Polish_V @ 0.96
16 70.5% German-North + 29.5% Greek_Center @ 0.96
17 52% Bulgarian + 48% German-North @ 0.97
18 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Lithuanian_V @ 0.97
19 67.3% Swedish + 32.7% Greek_East @ 0.97
20 96.2% Bosnian + 3.8% Gok4 @ 0.97

puntdnal k15

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 49.41
2 Mediterranean 32.43
3 Caucasian 12.8
4 SW_Asian 4.17
5 Wht_Nile_River 0.51
6 W_African 0.43
7 Amerindian 0.14
8 Horn_Of_Africa 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.47
2 French 4.3
3 South_German 4.53
4 Utahn_White 5.05
5 Croatian 6.28
6 Bosnian 7.67
7 Hungarian 7.68
8 Irish 7.69
9 Macedonian 7.79
10 English 8
11 Austrian 8.12
12 Orcadian 8.5
13 Slovenian 8.63
14 Romanian 8.7
15 Bulgarian 9.53
16 Scottish 9.77
17 North_German 10.17
18 Montenegrin 11.17
19 Norwegian 11.62
20 Italian 13.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Scottish + 17.7% Cypriot @ 1.19
2 70% English + 30% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.24
3 85.1% English + 14.9% Cypriot @ 1.24
4 65.6% Scottish + 34.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.29
5 72.5% English + 27.5% Greek_Central @ 1.3
6 70.8% Orcadian + 29.2% Tuscan @ 1.34
7 53% Romanian + 47% Scottish @ 1.39
8 71.3% Irish + 28.7% Albanian @ 1.43
9 68.3% Scottish + 31.7% Greek_Central @ 1.43
10 52.2% English + 47.8% Romanian @ 1.44
11 69.2% Orcadian + 30.8% Albanian @ 1.46
12 50.6% Orcadian + 49.4% Romanian @ 1.48
13 59.5% Swedish + 40.5% Tuscan @ 1.49
14 59.5% Irish + 40.5% Montenegrin @ 1.5
15 68.8% Orcadian + 31.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.51
16 73% Irish + 27% Tuscan @ 1.52
17 66% Scottish + 34% Albanian @ 1.52
18 67.8% Scottish + 32.2% Tuscan @ 1.54
19 91.3% Utahn_White + 8.7% Druze @ 1.55
20 53.4% Scottish + 46.6% Montenegrin @ 1.55

Puntdnal k13


# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 43.86
2 SW_Europe 35.79
3 West_Asia 12.25
4 SW_Asia 5.07
5 East_Africa 1.54
6 Americas 0.97
7 NE_Asia 0.27
8 Oceania 0.19
9 South_Asia 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 2.99
2 German_South 3.7
3 Hungarian 3.93
4 Belgian 4.72
5 Slovene 4.9
6 Bosnian 5.08
7 English 5.29
8 French 5.73
9 Scottish 6.29
10 Slovak 6.64
11 Orcadian 6.7
12 Moldavian 6.71
13 Serbian 6.99
14 Irish 7.06
15 Utahn_European 7.25
16 German_North 8.97
17 Montenegrin 9.75
18 Romanian 11.45
19 Ukrainian 11.49
20 Macedonian 11.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.5% Scottish + 10.5% Egyptian_Copts @ 1.3
2 89.2% Scottish + 10.8% Egyptian @ 1.35
3 95.4% German_South + 4.6% Amhara @ 1.39
4 95.3% German_South + 4.7% Tigray @ 1.42
5 70.6% Utahn_European + 29.4% Kosovar @ 1.57
6 95.8% German_South + 4.2% Oromo @ 1.58
7 77.5% Utahn_European + 22.5% Greek_Central @ 1.58
8 95.9% German_South + 4.1% Somali @ 1.6
9 72.7% Utahn_European + 27.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.6
10 61.9% Utahn_European + 38.1% Macedonian @ 1.62
11 71.8% Utahn_European + 28.2% Albanian @ 1.64
12 88.6% Orcadian + 11.4% Egyptian @ 1.67
13 95.8% German_South + 4.2% Wolayta @ 1.69
14 81.1% Utahn_European + 18.9% Italian_Sicilian @ 1.73
15 87.8% Orcadian + 12.2% Jordanian @ 1.75
16 90% English + 10% Syrian @ 1.76
17 80.5% Utahn_European + 19.5% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.77
18 85.7% Utahn_European + 14.3% Cypriot @ 1.79
19 81.5% Irish + 18.5% Italian_Sicilian @ 1.8
20 91% English + 9% Egyptian @ 1.81

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.66
2 Baltic 21.73
3 West_Med 14.17
4 West_Asian 8.65
5 East_Med 7.87
6 Red_Sea 3.15
7 Northeast_African 0.45
8 Siberian 0.18
9 Amerindian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 3.17
2 South_Dutch 3.5
3 French 7.35
4 North_German 8
5 Southeast_English 8.13
6 North_Dutch 9.34
7 Austrian 9.37
8 Southwest_English 9.39
9 Danish 9.52
10 Orcadian 9.62
11 Irish 10.16
12 West_Scottish 10.68
13 East_German 11.32
14 Norwegian 11.68
15 Swedish 12.44
16 Hungarian 13.63
17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.28
18 Spanish_Galicia 16.17
19 Portuguese 16.21
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Irish + 23.5% Central_Greek @ 2.03
2 76.9% Irish + 23.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.03
3 75.9% North_Dutch + 24.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.08
4 82.9% Irish + 17.1% Cyprian @ 2.18
5 79.6% North_Dutch + 20.4% South_Italian @ 2.21
6 73.3% Irish + 26.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.24
7 84.4% Irish + 15.6% Samaritan @ 2.25
8 78.6% North_Dutch + 21.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.28
9 84.7% Irish + 15.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.37
10 78.2% North_Dutch + 21.8% Central_Greek @ 2.37
11 72.3% West_Scottish + 27.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.38
12 74.3% Irish + 25.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.39
13 77% North_Dutch + 23% West_Sicilian @ 2.39
14 94.7% South_Dutch + 5.3% Lezgin @ 2.41
15 94.6% South_Dutch + 5.4% Tabassaran @ 2.42
16 75.7% West_Scottish + 24.3% Central_Greek @ 2.43
17 78.2% Irish + 21.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.46
18 94.8% South_Dutch + 5.2% Chechen @ 2.46
19 95.7% South_Dutch + 4.3% Georgian @ 2.5
20 95.2% South_Dutch + 4.8% Adygei @ 2.53

It looks like I am mixed between eastern europe, baltic states, and England? I do not really understand all this and my K25 from genplaza gave me 25% greek/albanian does this mean I have roots to albania as I am even seeing albania and kosovo come up in my secondary populations? I am new at all this and it is a little confusing :D

[MercifulServant]

Your results look South Slavic

[Dick]

You're a fuckin Serb. Congrats and welcome to the Bad Boy club.


http://www.decaldepot.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bad-boy-club-d51181-alt.gif

[MercifulServant]

You're a fuckin Serb. Congrats and welcome to the Bad Boy club.


http://www.decaldepot.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bad-boy-club-d51181-alt.gif

I think he's one of my genetic matches from ancestry I told him to go on the forum and ask about his results

[torgun0010]

Your results look South Slavic

I could not just be south slav though could I? As I seem to have a lot of northern european in me also. I feel like 9% west asian is also a little high for someone of just northern european ancestry right? Just trying to figure it out. As in my eurogenes there is no eastern european admixture in secondary population only kavkaz but in all others I get albanian, bosnian, macedonia, then on my dna.land it says I am cypriot then other tests say I am italian and some test say I am not. My Homedna said that I was hungarian so it seems I am always getting different results so do not know what to make of all this.

[MercifulServant]

I could not just be south slav though could I? As I seem to have a lot of northern european in me also. I feel like 9% west asian is also a little high for someone of just northern european ancestry right? Just trying to figure it out. As in my eurogenes there is no eastern european admixture in secondary population only kavkaz but in all others I get albanian, bosnian, macedonia, then on my dna.land it says I am cypriot then other tests say I am italian and some test say I am not. My Homedna said that I was hungarian so it seems I am always getting different results so do not know what to make of all this.

South slavs are autosomally a mix of northern and southern euros maybe you are something else too Post your DNAland and some other calcs post your dodecad K12b

[torgun0010]

South slavs are autosomally a mix of northern and southern euros maybe you are something else too Post your DNAland and some other calcs post your dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 38.83
2 Atlantic_Med 36.28
3 Caucasus 10.22
4 Gedrosia 8.94
5 Southwest_Asian 3.8
6 Northwest_African 1.67
7 East_African 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 7.36
2 French (Dodecad) 7.73
3 French (HGDP) 8.33
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 9
5 German (Dodecad) 9.59
6 Kent (1000Genomes) 9.94
7 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 10.35
8 English (Dodecad) 10.45
9 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 11.66
10 British_Isles (Dodecad) 11.81
11 British (Dodecad) 12.04
12 Argyll (1000Genomes) 12.62
13 Irish (Dodecad) 13.09
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 13.28
15 Orkney (1000Genomes) 13.38
16 Hungarians (Behar) 14.26
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 17.59
18 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.7
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 18.74
20 Swedish (Dodecad) 18.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Dutch (Dodecad) + 17.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 0.95
2 82.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 17.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.01
3 85.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 14.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.44
4 80.9% Dutch (Dodecad) + 19.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.52
5 85.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 14.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.64
6 81% Dutch (Dodecad) + 19% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.69
7 81.6% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 18.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.7
8 85.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 14.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.71
9 80.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 19.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.72
10 83% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.72
11 74% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 26% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.74
12 87.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 12.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.75
13 73.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) + 26.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.79
14 86.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 13.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.81
15 80.2% Dutch (Dodecad) + 19.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
16 85.6% English (Dodecad) + 14.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.81
17 89.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 10.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.81
18 84% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 16% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.82
19 85.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 14.5% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.86
20 85.3% Dutch (Dodecad) + 14.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.9
dodecad just made me super middle eastern in secondary population.

DNA.Land

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K25 Geneplaza

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Gencove

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FTDNA Results

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The other 5 percent is west asian and middle east for my FTDNA. It seems like each site is saying something different but it seems like I am around eastern europe and north european. I am just trying to find out what part of eastern europe as eastern europe is huge. It seems like each test on GEDMATCH also is something different. So I am having a hard time understanding which group I belong to.

Here is my Eurogenes Hunter Gatherer

Population
Anatolian Farmer 12.50
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 49.42
Middle Eastern Herder 3.61
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.23
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 0.53
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.43
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.30

Also here is my K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.02
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.13
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.85
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.85
East_Med 1.65
Eastern_Euro 0.29
Fennoscandian 9.25
French 12.71
Iberian 14.17
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.62
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.62
North_African 0.81
North_Atlantic 10.53
North_Caucasian 2.27
North_Sea 18.36
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.67
West_Med 0.17

PuntDNAL K10 Ancient

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 2.280602
2 German_South @ 5.231615
3 Croatian @ 7.193468
4 Utahn_white @ 7.685475
5 Spanish_Northeast @ 8.614730
6 English_South @ 9.385511
7 Irish @ 9.571568
8 Hungarian @ 10.040084
9 Italian_North @ 10.346332
10 Czech @ 10.714005
11 Bulgarian @ 11.444208
12 Spanish_Southwest @ 11.458779
13 German_North @ 11.527868
14 Scottish_West @ 12.237582
15 Icelandic @ 14.660273
16 Norwegian @ 15.075983
17 Ukrainian @ 16.331280
18 Basque_Spanish @ 16.386015
19 Albanian @ 16.538279
20 Tuscan @ 16.569672

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Utahn_white +50% Spanish_Northeast @ 1.397100


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Czech +25% Hungarian +25% Sardinian @ 1.026358


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Basque_Spanish + Czech + Irish + Tuscan @ 0.734092
2 Basque_Spanish + Czech + Utahn_white + Tuscan @ 0.836048
3 Czech + Irish + Irish + Sardinian @ 0.861816
4 Basque_Spanish + Czech + Irish + Italian_South @ 0.918832
5 Norwegian + Basque_Spanish + Czech + Sicilian @ 0.930586
6 Czech + German_North + Irish + Sardinian @ 0.936685
7 Norwegian + Basque_Spanish + German_North + Sicilian @ 0.938417
8 Basque_Spanish + Irish + Croatian + Italian_North @ 0.984766
9 Basque_Spanish + Utahn_white + Hungarian + Italian_North @ 0.987021
10 Basque_Spanish + Czech + English_South + Tuscan @ 0.990577
11 Norwegian + Basque_Spanish + Croatian + Tuscan @ 1.003795
12 Basque_Spanish + Czech + French + Bulgarian @ 1.006923
13 Basque_Spanish + Czech + Utahn_white + Albanian @ 1.014578
14 Czech + German_North + Hungarian + Sardinian @ 1.015507
15 Basque_Spanish + German_South + German_South + Bulgarian @ 1.020499
16 Czech + Czech + Hungarian + Sardinian @ 1.026358
17 Norwegian + Irish + Croatian + Sardinian @ 1.034193
18 Basque_Spanish + Czech + German_South + Albanian @ 1.034800
19 Basque_Spanish + Irish + Hungarian + Italian_North @ 1.037096
20 Norwegian + Basque_Spanish + French + Albanian @ 1.041456

Done.

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Again the Puntdnal always shows for me some sort of Albanian or Kosovo ancestry so I am not sure along with the k25 if this should help me conclude that I do have osme ancestry from Albania.

[torgun0010]

bump

[Damião de Góis]

if i were you i would focus on the runs of Eurogenes and Dodecad and ignore the others. The Eurogenes run you posted gives you different results from the rest. Try and see if it is consistent on the other Eurogenes/Dodecad runs. Also your 23andme results can provide some clues about your ancestry.

[Leto]

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.66
2 Baltic 21.73
3 West_Med 14.17
4 West_Asian 8.65
5 East_Med 7.87
6 Red_Sea 3.15
7 Northeast_African 0.45
8 Siberian 0.18
9 Amerindian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 3.17
2 South_Dutch 3.5
You're white as hell. Definitely not a South Slav (they are white too, but less than Western Europeans).

[tahir0010]

You're white as hell. Definitely not a South Slav (they are white too, but less than Western Europeans).

OP could be mixed though between south slav and northern European though because he clusters around Germany. So he would have to have some sort of Slavic ancestry. Hes probably.mixed between slav and northern europe

[tahir0010]

I would say it looks like he is 1/4 British one-fourth German 1/4 Bosnian or something in that area and then 1/4 Greek or Italian because his Red Sea is higher than that of normal Central Europeans and his West Asian is also higher than that of Northern Central Europeans there is no way that Opie is just two different ethnicities

[MercifulServant]

Admix Results (sorted):

My feeling is that its possible you are a Mixture of Greek and Northwest european which gives a pseudo south slavic result on gedmatch do to the result that south slavs are a mix of northern and southern populations

[MercifulServant]

You're white as hell. Definitely not a South Slav (they are white too, but less than Western Europeans).

Define white.

[Leto]

Define white.
Don't be a cultural Marxist. White is European and the more Northern, the whiter.

[MercifulServant]

Don't be a cultural Marxist. White is European and the more Northern, the whiter.

Idgaf to be white then id rather be 20 percent kavkaz then 8 percent mongoloid

[MercifulServant]

I am a Titoist btw

[Leto]

Idgaf to be white then id rather be 20 percent kavkaz then 8 percent mongoloid
Northwestern Europeans are neither. You are counted as white in Canada.
By the way, I got the feeling you wanted to be Russian or East Slav, didn't you? You frequently LARP as a Russian.

[MercifulServant]

Northwestern Europeans are neither. You are counted as white in Canada.
By the way, I got the feeling you wanted to be Russian or East Slav, didn't you? You frequently LARP as a Russian.

Not really anymore I take pride in Kavkaz heritage now id rather be that then 8 percent mong plus they would not like me anyway I have alot of kavkaz ancestry according to calcs and my haplogroup is G

[Leto]

Not really anymore I take pride in Kavkaz heritage now id rather be that then 8 percent mong plus they would not like me anyway I have alot of kavkaz ancestry according to calcs and my haplogroup is G
Brat, just be yourself - a Serb, a South Slav, a Balkanite. You are neither Russian, nor Caucasian. Haplogroups don't mean crap when it comes to race and ethnicity. Later this year I will learn my Y-DNA, it could be anything - R1a, R1b, I1, I2, N1c or possibly even something more unusual. But I won't change my identity a bit.

[MercifulServant]

Brat, just be yourself - a Serb, a South Slav, a Balkanite. You are neither Russian, nor Caucasian. Haplogroups don't mean crap when it comes to race and ethnicity. Later this year I will learn my Y-DNA, it could be anything - R1a, R1b, I1, I2, N1c or possibly even something more unusual. But I won't change my identity a bit.

Yes I am a south slav but we obviously have some kavkaz/caucasus heritage

[MercifulServant]

Plus I plot south of all the serbs here and always get more caucasus on every calc

[Leto]

Yes I am a south slav but we obviously have some kavkaz/caucasus heritage
As does the entire South of Europe. That's mostly prehistoric.

[MercifulServant]

As does the entire South of Europe. That's mostly prehistoric.

But Balkans has basically the most we obviously have more recent

[tahir0010]

But Balkans has basically the most we obviously have more recent

I still don't think op is that white he has west Asia and red sea. West asia is almost 9 red sea is at 3 percent this is not typical of a German nor someone from northern Europe he has to have southern ancestry. Id still say Balkans Greek and English and German he has to be at least 4 ethnic groups

[MercifulServant]

I still don't think op is that white he has west Asia and red sea. West asia is almost 9 red sea is at 3 percent this is not typical of a German nor someone from northern Europe he has to have southern ancestry. Id still say Balkans Greek and English and German he has to be at least 4 ethnic groups

What the fuck does white mean can anyone tell me all Europeans have Neolithic Caucasus ancestry and the ones that claim to have the least of that ancestry have some mongoloid

[Neon Knight]

What were the results of your initial DNA test? For the time being I would assume you are of mostly of German ancestry with maybe some French.

[Leto]

What the fuck does white mean can anyone tell me all Europeans have Neolithic Caucasus ancestry and the ones that claim to have the least of that ancestry have some mongoloid
Come on, you live in Canada, which is a multiracial hellhole, of course you know the difference between Euro-Canadians, Chinese-Canadians, Indo-Canadians and Afro-Canadians.

[Dick]

You're white as hell. Definitely not a South Slav (they are white too, but less than Western Europeans).

Do you have a problem with Serbs?

[Leto]

Do you have a problem with Serbs?
Of course not. I just said they were not as white as, say, Germans or Britons (at least in the Western English-speaking context).

[Dick]

Of course not. I just said they were not as white as, say, Germans or Britons (at least in the Western English-speaking context).

Do you live in the west?

[Leto]

Do you live in the west?
My place of residence is irrelevant. This is an English-speaking forum. By the way, we are not as white as them either.

[tahir0010]

What the fuck does white mean can anyone tell me all Europeans have Neolithic Caucasus ancestry and the ones that claim to have the least of that ancestry have some mongoloid

I'm saying that this guy is definitely mixed and has Anatolian ancestry without a doubt. Like most Europeans. If someone scores 5% west Asian on DNA test does that mean they can claim turkish ancestry? Everyone says something different.

[Dick]

My place of residence is irrelevant. This is an English-speaking forum. By the way, we are not as white as them either.

Your comments are irrelevant then. Stop spewing autistic nonsense.

[Leto]

Your comments are irrelevant then. Stop spewing autistic nonsense.
What is your opinion on whiteness?

[torgun0010]

What were the results of your initial DNA test? For the time being I would assume you are of mostly of German ancestry with maybe some French.
Yes I posted them on first page it looks like my ftdna is split between North and eastern Europe or at least that's what the map shows and the map shows no central European

[torgun0010]

You're white as hell. Definitely not a South Slav (they are white too, but less than Western Europeans).

Doesn't even make sense though because my ftdna doesn't even show central Europe it shows eastern and south europe

[Leto]

Doesn't even make sense though because my ftdna doesn't even show central Europe it shows eastern and south europe
Okay. I might be wrong. But the distance on Eurogenes is pretty small. Try MDLP K16.

[torgun0010]

Okay. I might be wrong. But the distance on Eurogenes is pretty small. Try MDLP K16.
Neolithic 29.15
2 NorthEastEuropean 24.56
3 Steppe 21.75
4 Caucasian 19.66
5 NearEast 2.99
6 NorthAfrican 1.61


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Welsh_Wales @ 3.904069
2 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 4.120701
3 French_NorthwestFrance @ 4.143781
4 French_WestFrance @ 4.231697
5 French_EastFrance @ 4.301106
6 Scottish_Fife @ 4.474253
7 German_Germany @ 4.487426
8 Scottish_Grampian @ 4.646042
9 Scottish_Highlands @ 4.886652
10 English_England @ 4.995734
11 Scottish_Borders @ 5.052384
12 Irish_Connacht @ 5.176299
13 Hungarian_WestUkraine @ 5.237300
14 Irish_Munster @ 5.369208
15 Irish_Leinster @ 5.394789
16 Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 5.413818
17 Dutch_Netherlands @ 5.446030
18 French_France @ 5.604156
19 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 5.631672
20 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) @ 5.797684

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_France +50% Hungarian_WestUkraine @ 2.414783


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Kent +25% Icelandic_Iceland +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.079835


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.935517
2 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.006017
3 French_France + Icelandic_Iceland + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.012084
4 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.016003
5 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Icelandic_Iceland @ 2.021929
6 Corsican_Corsica + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.062833
7 Corsican_Corsica + English_Cornwall + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.077728
8 English_Kent + English_Kent + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.079835
9 French_France + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.084827
10 Hungarian_WestUkraine + Norwegian_Norwegia + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha @ 2.097528
11 Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha @ 2.109321
12 Corsican_Corsica + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Irish_Connacht + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.124491
13 Icelandic_Iceland + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Spanish_Spain @ 2.127158
14 English_Kent + Italian_Abruzzo + Norwegian_Norwegia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.129167
15 English_Kent + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.132682
16 English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Spanish_Baleares @ 2.133631
17 German_Germany + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Provencal_Provence @ 2.137783
18 English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Tuscany @ 2.143658
19 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.149639
20 English_Kent + English_Kent + Italian_Abruzzo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.151465

Done.

Getting again Bosnia Serbia and hungry along with northern Europe

[MercifulServant]

Come on, you live in Canada, which is a multiracial hellhole, of course you know the difference between Euro-Canadians, Chinese-Canadians, Indo-Canadians and Afro-Canadians.

Why is it a hellhole its much better than the slums of belarus, according to Gedmatch I have 20 percent caucasus ancestry tell me how is that white?

[MercifulServant]

What is your opinion on whiteness?

Listen here buddy, There is no biological white race there is Only Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid and Australoid. White is a modern term that is meaningless

[tahir0010]

Neolithic 29.15
2 NorthEastEuropean 24.56
3 Steppe 21.75
4 Caucasian 19.66
5 NearEast 2.99
6 NorthAfrican 1.61


Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Welsh_Wales @ 3.904069
2 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 4.120701
3 French_NorthwestFrance @ 4.143781
4 French_WestFrance @ 4.231697
5 French_EastFrance @ 4.301106
6 Scottish_Fife @ 4.474253
7 German_Germany @ 4.487426
8 Scottish_Grampian @ 4.646042
9 Scottish_Highlands @ 4.886652
10 English_England @ 4.995734
11 Scottish_Borders @ 5.052384
12 Irish_Connacht @ 5.176299
13 Hungarian_WestUkraine @ 5.237300
14 Irish_Munster @ 5.369208
15 Irish_Leinster @ 5.394789
16 Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 5.413818
17 Dutch_Netherlands @ 5.446030
18 French_France @ 5.604156
19 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 5.631672
20 German_Lipsian_(Saxony) @ 5.797684

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_France +50% Hungarian_WestUkraine @ 2.414783


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Kent +25% Icelandic_Iceland +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.079835


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.935517
2 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.006017
3 French_France + Icelandic_Iceland + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.012084
4 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.016003
5 Corsican_Corsica + English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Icelandic_Iceland @ 2.021929
6 Corsican_Corsica + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.062833
7 Corsican_Corsica + English_Cornwall + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.077728
8 English_Kent + English_Kent + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.079835
9 French_France + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.084827
10 Hungarian_WestUkraine + Norwegian_Norwegia + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha @ 2.097528
11 Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Serbian_Bosnia-Herzegovina + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha @ 2.109321
12 Corsican_Corsica + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Irish_Connacht + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.124491
13 Icelandic_Iceland + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Spanish_Spain @ 2.127158
14 English_Kent + Italian_Abruzzo + Norwegian_Norwegia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.129167
15 English_Kent + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Abruzzo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.132682
16 English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Spanish_Baleares @ 2.133631
17 German_Germany + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Provencal_Provence @ 2.137783
18 English_Kent + Hungarian_WestUkraine + Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Tuscany @ 2.143658
19 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.149639
20 English_Kent + English_Kent + Italian_Abruzzo + Norwegian_Norwegia @ 2.151465

Done.

Getting again Bosnia Serbia and hungry along with northern Europe

The fact that you keep getting the eastern europe probably means you have eastern european ancestry.

[tahir0010]

Listen here buddy, There is no biological white race there is Only Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid and Australoid. White is a modern term that is meaningless

Where did you get 20% caucausian? It wasnt on your ancestry DNA report?

[MercifulServant]

Where did you get 20% caucausian? It wasnt on your ancestry DNA report?

Dodecad K12b, V3 and various other calcs like on k36 I got 10 percent north caucasian

[tahir0010]

Dodecad K12b, V3 and various other calcs like on k36 I got 10 percent north caucasian

So even OP could claim caucasian his score is 20% but this is common throughout all europeans in general so there is nothing odd there. I am saying he does have eastern europe ancestry I am not sure why leko doesnt think so. He continually is getting bosnia and hungary, macedonia in population mixtures. So that is one thing I am saying is probably positive is there is some ancestry from balkans there.

[MercifulServant]

So even OP could claim caucasian his score is 20% but this is common throughout all europeans in general so there is nothing odd there. I am saying he does have eastern europe ancestry I am not sure why leko doesnt think so. He continually is getting bosnia and hungary, macedonia in population mixtures. So that is one thing I am saying is probably positive is there is some ancestry from balkans there.

I think OP is a mix of Balkan and NW euro

[Leto]

Listen here buddy, There is no biological white race there is Only Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid and Australoid. White is a modern term that is meaningless
There are European genetic groups and those people are commonly referred to as white in multiracial societies. Don't you agree that Syrians and Germans are way too different to be seen as one group on a social level?

[MercifulServant]

There are European genetic groups and those people are commonly referred to as white in multiracial societies. Don't you agree that Syrians and Germans are way too different to be seen as one group on a social level?

What about balkanites and Armenians we are over 20 percent non white just with caucasus ancestry every European is non white then because all have some ancestry from caucasus that we share with Armenians, Turks etc

[Leto]

What about balkanites and Armenians we are over 20 percent non white just with caucasus ancestry every European is non white then because all have some ancestry from caucasus that we share with Armenians, Turks etc
Balkan people are European. Armenians are Near Eastern. You are not the same. Armenians are less European than Chechens genetically. However, Armenians have a better chance of assimilation than Muslim Chechens.

[MercifulServant]

Balkan people are European. Armenians are Near Eastern. You are not the same. Armenians are less European than Chechens genetically. However, Armenians have a better chance of assimilation than Muslim Chechens.

We have a lot of near eastern ancestry so we are not really white would you say someone who is 30 percent non euro is white?

[Leto]

We have a lot of near eastern ancestry so we are not really white would you say someone who is 30 percent non euro is white?
South Europe is white in my opinion. I'm not a Nordicist who says only Northern Europeans are white. You are less Near Eastern than some Italians and some Greeks, let alone Ashkenazi Jews.

[MercifulServant]

South Europe is white in my opinion. I'm not a Nordicist who says only Northern Europeans are white. You are less Near Eastern than some Italians and some Greeks, let alone Ashkenazi Jews.

Still very near eastern and non white

[Leto]

Still very near eastern and non white
What do you look like? Do you look like a black-assed churka from the Caucasus? :D

[MercifulServant]

What do you look like? Do you look like a black-assed churka from the Caucasus? :D

Better than Mongols from the north that hate me for having churka DNA

[Leto]

Better than Mongols from the north that hate me for having churka DNA
I don't hate you, lol. I don't even know what you look like. And you seem to be confused about your ancestry.

[MercifulServant]

I don't hate you, lol. I don't even know what you look like. And you seem to be confused about your ancestry.

Why does it matter what I look like? DNA tells the truth

[tahir0010]

Why does it matter what I look like? DNA tells the truth

So your opinion people getting 9 percent west Asian on eurogenes can now claim Anatolian ancestry? OP also seems to have 4 percent red sea can he claim he is Saudi? In your opinion everyone has a different idea. For me I don't care if someone claims to be a Türk. Even if they had 2% Turkic or west Asian ancestry because at the end of the day they still have ancestry from that region. So I agree with minecrafter. Even if OP started saying I'm 8% west Asian and 4 percent red sea so my origins is from Anatolia and the middle east id say okay. He even said in the first page 5 percent of his DNA was under west Asia. So some part of his family was Anatolia very long ago. So congrats OP your a Türk ����

[torgun0010]

Why does it matter what I look like? DNA tells the truth
0.00% Kushitic
7.41% North-Iberian
2.08% East-Iberian
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
1.20% North-African
1.73% South-Caucasian
0.10% North-Caucasian
6.43% Paleo-Balkan
0.00% Turkic-Altai
0.00% Proto-Austronesian
0.00% Nilotic
7.23% East-Med
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Munda
0.00% North-Amerind
2.64% Arabic
13.93% East-Euro
0.00% Central-African_HG
0.00% Andean
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% South-Indian
0.00% NE-Asian
0.05% Volgan
0.00% Mongolian
0.00% Siberian
13.87% North-Sea_Germanic
18.60% Celtic
0.00% West-African
3.29% West-Finnic
0.00% Uralic
0.00% Sahelian
0.00% NW-Indian
0.00% East-African_HG
0.00% East-Asian
0.00% Amuro-Manchurian
10.80% Scando-Germanic
0.00% Iranian
0.00% South-African_HG
0.00% Amazonian
3.09% Baltic
0.00% Malay
0.00% Meso-Amerind
0.00% South-Chinese
0.00% Papuan
4.89% West-Med
0.01% Pamirian
2.66% Central-Med

you were right minecrafter looks like I am mixed between balkan and northern europe germanic. With some arabic blood at like 4%. I was comparing my scores to yours and my paleo balkan is 3% less then yours and my eastern euro is about half. My east med is higher then yours? Which I thought was kind of weird.

[MercifulServant]

0.00% Kushitic
7.41% North-Iberian
2.08% East-Iberian
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
1.20% North-African
1.73% South-Caucasian
0.10% North-Caucasian
6.43% Paleo-Balkan
0.00% Turkic-Altai
0.00% Proto-Austronesian
0.00% Nilotic
7.23% East-Med
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Munda
0.00% North-Amerind
2.64% Arabic
13.93% East-Euro
0.00% Central-African_HG
0.00% Andean
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% South-Indian
0.00% NE-Asian
0.05% Volgan
0.00% Mongolian
0.00% Siberian
13.87% North-Sea_Germanic
18.60% Celtic
0.00% West-African
3.29% West-Finnic
0.00% Uralic
0.00% Sahelian
0.00% NW-Indian
0.00% East-African_HG
0.00% East-Asian
0.00% Amuro-Manchurian
10.80% Scando-Germanic
0.00% Iranian
0.00% South-African_HG
0.00% Amazonian
3.09% Baltic
0.00% Malay
0.00% Meso-Amerind
0.00% South-Chinese
0.00% Papuan
4.89% West-Med
0.01% Pamirian
2.66% Central-Med

you were right minecrafter looks like I am mixed between balkan and northern europe germanic. With some arabic blood at like 4%. I was comparing my scores to yours and my paleo balkan is 3% less then yours and my eastern euro is about half. My east med is higher then yours? Which I thought was kind of weird.

The arabic result is likely neolithic ancestry which all europeans have atleast some neolithic you are a Northwest Euro Balkan mix. It looks like you might have some ancestry from british isles maybe because you score alot of celtic

[torgun0010]

The arabic result is likely neolithic ancestry which all europeans have atleast some neolithic you are a Northwest Euro Balkan mix. It looks like you might have some ancestry from british isles maybe because you score alot of celtic

So it looks like you were right all along thank you so much for the help :D

[Neon Knight]

Yes I posted them on first page it looks like my ftdna is split between North and eastern Europe or at least that's what the map shows and the map shows no central European
Okay. The overall picture is British/German with some Spanish. I think a 23andMe test would help confirm if you have a lot of British ancestry. Good luck.

[torgun0010]

Okay. The overall picture is British/German with some Spanish. I think a 23andMe test would help confirm if you have a lot of British ancestry. Good luck.

My k47 though is almost as balkanated as a eastern European also my k47 has to much of a high eastern euro paleo balkan and east med to be just German British and Spanish would score eastern euro or east med.

[Neon Knight]

My k47 though is almost as balkanated as a eastern European also my k47 has to much of a high eastern euro paleo balkan and east med to be just German British and Spanish would score eastern euro or east med.Where is K47 on GEDmatch? I can't find it. But 23andMe is the most popular DNA test with probably the largest samples so you should do it, and you might find some DNA cousins through it. GEDmatch tests are so variable that they cannot be relied upon.