What population do you plot closest to autosomally overall?

[MercifulServant]

Overall I plot close to serbs from Serbia even though I am a serb from Croatia perhaps I'm a little Southern of other Krajina Serbs because My ancestry were originally Serbs from the Herzegovina area hundreds of years ago

[greasycaveman]

east german

[MercifulServant]

east german

I forgot to say state why you think that is

[Fallag]

My results (K12b)

Northern_European 41,46%

Atlantic_Med 27,87%

Caucasus 21,25%

Southwest_Asian 4,69%

Gedrosia 3,50%

Siberian 0,62%

East_Asian 0,50%

Northwest_African 0,07%

I am the closest to south/southwestern Slavs.

[Erronkari]

Spain Aragon and French Basque.

[Fallag]

I am the closest to western Serbs and to Bosniaks.

[MercifulServant]

I am the closest to western Serbs and to Bosniaks.

What is your ethnicity?

[Fallag]

Guy Bosniensis probably has Turkish admixture, because of high score of Gedrosia and Northwest_African.

[CertifiedCracker]

Southwest English, considering most of my ancestry is English.

[MercifulServant]

Guy Bosniensis probably has Turkish admixture, because of high score of Gedrosia and Northwest_African.

On which calc?

[Fallag]

What is your ethnicity?

Fully Serbian.

[Fallag]

+Minecrafter11

What are your results at K12b?

[MercifulServant]

+Minecrafter11

What are your results at K12b?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.83
2 Atlantic_Med 26.3
3 Caucasus 22.22
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.79
6 East_Asian 0.81
7 Siberian 0.34
8 Northwest_African 0.32

[torgun0010]

# Population Percent
1 North_European 38.83
2 Atlantic_Med 36.28
3 Caucasus 10.22
4 Gedrosia 8.94
5 Southwest_Asian 3.8
6 Northwest_African 1.67
7 East_African 0.26

I'd say maybe southern Germany or close to croatia most likely

[MercifulServant]

# Population Percent
1 North_European 38.83
2 Atlantic_Med 36.28
3 Caucasus 10.22
4 Gedrosia 8.94
5 Southwest_Asian 3.8
6 Northwest_African 1.67
7 East_African 0.26

I'd say maybe southern Germany or close to croatia most likely

Your caucasus is low

[Fallag]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.83
2 Atlantic_Med 26.3
3 Caucasus 22.22
4 Southwest_Asian 6.39
5 Gedrosia 3.79
6 East_Asian 0.81
7 Siberian 0.34
8 Northwest_African 0.32

Your North_European is at about half way between Serbs from Serbia and western Serbs (Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia), but you are slightly closer to western Serbs.
Serbs from Serbia have 37,91% North_European on average and western Serbs 41,19%.

Your Gedrosia and Northwest_African are normal for south Slav, and Bosniensis has quite high Gedrosia and Northwest_African for south Slav.

[MercifulServant]

Your North_European is at about half way between Serbs from Serbia and western Serbs (Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia), but you are slightly closer to western Serbs.
Serbs from Serbia have 37,91 North_European on average and western Serbs 41,19%.

Your Gedrosia and Northwest_African is normal for south Slav, and Bosniensis has quite high Gedrosia and Northwest_African for south Slav.

The reference populations on gedmatch overestimate the northern admix of population for example the average Russian scored 67 percent Northern euro according some reference thing on gedmatch for one of the calculators I forgot which one but in reality the Russian results on the calc were lower than that

[torgun0010]

Your caucasus is low

Yes but it is still higher then that of a German by 2% according to the spread sheet and my gedrosia is much higher. So I would still assume it would plot closer to Germany or maybe Slovenia

[Fallag]

# Population Percent
1 North_European 38.83
2 Atlantic_Med 36.28
3 Caucasus 10.22
4 Gedrosia 8.94
5 Southwest_Asian 3.8
6 Northwest_African 1.67
7 East_African 0.26

I'd say maybe southern Germany or close to croatia most likely

What is your ethnicity?

[torgun0010]

What is your ethnicity?

I was adopted so we don't really know 100% but Minecraft helped me out from what it looks like from.my tests and k47 and other test I am northwestern and balkan mix. I started a post with all my test results you can take a look if you want

[firemonkey]

Are the Caucasus averages of 1.30 and 2.20 accurate for British and British isles? I am English,Scottish and Irish and get 4.74. My father is English and gets 7.21.

I am wondering what other British people get.

[Jackson78]

Hungarians, although i'm fully Serbian.

This is my genetically predicted place of origin according to Eurogenes K36:

https://i.imgur.com/T9GaT5Q.png

[Maintenance]

Cypriots then georgian and chechen

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I plot closest with the Portuguese, followed by Spaniards and North Italians.

[Stears]

Hungarians, although i'm fully Serbian.

This is my genetically predicted place of origin according to Eurogenes K36:

https://i.imgur.com/T9GaT5Q.png

It means you are not ''fully'' Serbian, because Serbs and Hungarians are not genetically similar.

[Maintenance]

It means you are not ''fully'' Serbian, because Serbs and Hungarians are not genetically similar.

He might be northern serbian, a lot of hungarians live there.

[Annie999]

I always plot in Italy, 90% of the time in Tuscany as#1, followed by other Italian zones (North_Italy ussually #2 and West_Sicilian #3). Then I plot near Greeks, Albanian and sometimes even Bulgarian. Only then I get Spanish, which is weird because Im 1/4 spanish and 0% albanian, greek or bulgarian.

[Jackson78]

It means you are not ''fully'' Serbian, because Serbs and Hungarians are not genetically similar.

I mean that all my ancestors (from paternal and maternal side both) in recent family history identify themselves as Serbs. But, i definitely have some distant "northern" ancestors who were not from Balkans and who were not ethnic Serbs.

[Sikeliot]

On a PCA plot I end up nearest North Italy, Balkan Slavs, and northern Greeks depending on the calculator.

[Seya]

bulgarian or macedonian

[Jackson78]

bulgarian or macedonian

Is this typical for Romanians?

[Kriptc06]

There's no overall ethnicity I am close, cause I'm a huge mix.

But in Eurogenes K15 and other calcs, I seem to be stuck in the "italian area", right in the middle of portugal and bulgaria, and I have a drift down towards africa. I am the closest to sicilians and south italians, but far at the same time.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13977&d=1486823775

[Seya]

Is this typical for Romanians?

for south romanians, yes. south romaians are genetically closer to bulgarians then they are to north romanians

[Jackson78]

for south romanians, yes. south romaians are genetically closer to bulgarians then they are to north romanians

Interesting.

[Thracian]

Bulgarian, Romanian, Gagauz, Greek, O. Italian

[Fallag]

for south romanians, yes. south romaians are genetically closer to bulgarians then they are to north romanians

There is a theory that Vlachs came to Wallachia in 12-13th century from Bulgaria, maybe this is true because southern Romanian are genetically identical as Bulgarians.

[RN97]

You decide dawg :p
https://i.imgur.com/R7SoONn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/T5dNSjk.png
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https://i.imgur.com/uGJYryH.png
https://i.imgur.com/fIO76jJ.png
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[Carpatz]

Closest to Romanians, then to Bulgars and Serbs.

[Fallag]

Closest to Romanians, then to Bulgars and Serbs.

Everyone are the closest to own nation.

[Tschaikisten]

Croats, Serbs from Northwestern Bosnia (where my maternal line coming from) and Bosnian Muslims.

[Jackson78]

Everyone are the closest to own nation.

Except me :rofl:

[RN97]

Except me :rofl:

Have you tried the eurogenes k15 thing?
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm
That one usually puts you closest to your ethnicity

[Jackson78]

Have you tried the eurogenes k15 thing?
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm
That one usually puts you closest to your ethnicity

I'm closest to Moldovans, Croatians and Hungarians on k15. Serbs are on fourth place.

[Carpatz]

There is a theory that Vlachs came to Wallachia in 12-13th century from Bulgaria, maybe this is true because southern Romanian are genetically identical as Bulgarians.
The theory is wrong. Bulgarians are similar to us because we're neighboring countries with similar roots: both countries we're inhabited by Thracians in antiquity, who later got romanized. The difference is that in Romania Roman identity prevailed over the Slavic one. There is no recorded mass "Vlach" immigration from south to north while there are plenty of sources that indicate the opposite (north to south).


"In the year 6406 (898) the Magyars passed by Kiev, over the mountains that today we call Ugor Koie and reached the Dniper where they put up their tents, for they were nomads, as are the Polovcii. Coming from the East they ran through the tall mountains and started fighting the Vlachs and Slavs who lived there. For the Slavs settled there a while before , only to be enslaved by the Vlachs. In the end, the Magyars banished the Vlachs and took this land, settling together with the Slavs who were again subjects, and from then onward this country was named Hungary'' - Nestor's Kievan Rus Chronicle


According to Anonymus' chronicle "Gesta Hungarorum", "Slavs, Bulgarians, Vlachs, and the shepherds of the Romans"[52] inhabited the Carpathian Basin when the Magyars invaded the territory.[24] The chronicler describes Transylvania (terra ultrasilvana, "the land beyond the woods") as a rich country with salt mines and gold-yielding rivers, inhabited by "Vlachs and Slavs"[53] when the Magyars arrived,[54][55] and records the names of five Transylvanian rivers or mountain passes.[56] Most—Almaş, Aștileu, Căpuş and Mezeş—are of Hungarian origin.[56] In the Gesta Hungarorum Gelou is described as "a certain Vlach"[57] and "prince of the Vlachs",[58] indicating that the Vlachs were considered the dominant Transylvanian population.[55][59]

[Vid Flumina]

Venetians and Cimbrians

[Hadouken]

other than Kurdish . most often Azerbaijanis and Armenians

[Mingle]

I get between Afghanistan Pashtuns and Pakistan Pashtuns usually, sometimes closer to one and sometimes closer to the other, but closer to Pakistan Pashtuns overall. Excluding Pashtuns, the next closest would be the Kalash. After that, Baloches, Makranis, Brahuis, and Burushos.

[Damião de Góis]

I plot with Portugal, in fact i'm a part of the portuguese sample on both Dodecad and Eurogenes.

[Kelmendasi]

Albanians, Tuscans are also pretty close and Greeks

[wvwvw]

I plot close to Hawai, Mauritius, Thailand..

[alnortedelsur]

I'm mostly Spanish descent, but interestingly, in most gedmatch calculators I plot with or very close to North or Central Italians (depending on the calculator).

My slight Amerindian pulls me a bit east from Iberians, and my minor SSA pulls me a bit south of Iberians. But I also have some minor Italian ancestry (1/16) coming from a second grand grandpa from my paternal side, and I also score unusually high Italian on Ancestry DNA and My Heritage (much higher than expected for being only 1/16 Italian by known ancestry).

[FilhoV]

I plot with Portuguese, Extremadurans and Andalusians

[Sp_loa]

1.South Italians
2.Greeks
3.Ashkenazi Jews.

In PCA plots I’m usually on sicilly, with tendency to greece (maybe because I have a lot of Balkan DNA for unknown reason).
I can be moduled as 82% mainland greek +18% Moroccan with a close distance.
Actually my overall European percentages are kind of close to sicilly and greece expect for the Berber(and the SSA that come with it) trunk. I believe that with 5% lower Berber than I have now I could be guessed as full south Italian or even Greek.

[Jana]

Hungarians.

But if I really want to be precise, I plot between more northern shifted Croats and more southern shifted Hungarians. So basically, like Slavonian Croat.
which makes sense since I am mix of southern and northern Croat (and few other) ancestries :)

[Bosniensis]

1.Romania
2.Serbia
3.Bulgaria

In 10 calculators at least

[Sp_loa]

Hungarians.

But if I really want to be precise, I plot between more northern shifted Croats and more southern shifted Hungarians. So basically, like Slavonian Croat.
which makes sense since I am mix of southern and northern Croat (and few other) ancestries :)

Completly Off topic but I have to say that Croatia and Slovenia are the most beautiful countries in the Balkan. I actually know few Sephardic jews that are from south Croatia (and there are only few in general that survived the holocaust there)- from Split and Dubrovnik.

[Jana]

Completly Off topic but I have to say that Croatia and Slovenia are the most beautiful countries in the Balkan. I actually know few Sephardic jews that are from south Croatia (and there are only few in general that survived the holocaust there)- from Split and Dubrovnik.

Interestingly almost all Jews from southern Croatia are/were Sephardic while Jews from northern Croatia are mostly all Askhenazi.
and thank you ! But all south-eastern European countries are quite beautiful :)

[Sp_loa]

Interestingly almost all Jews from southern Croatia are/were Sephardic while Jews from northern Croatia are mostly all Askhenazi.
and thank you ! But all south-eastern European countries are quite beautiful :)

Ashkenazi Jews arrived to Croatia throw Austria, Slovenia and Hungary so they settled in Northern Croatia while Sephardim arrived to Croatia throw Italy and Bosina y Herzegovina so they settled in Sourhern Croatia. In general Sephardi jews “had trauma” from inquisition so they liked settling in Muslim territories and I think only southern Croatia was under Ottoman rule.

[Jana]

Ashkenazi Jews arrived to Croatia throw Austria, Slovenia and Hungary so they settled in Northern Croatia while Sephardim arrived to Croatia throw Italy and Bosina y Herzegovina so they settled in Sourhern Croatia. In general Sephardi jews “had trauma” from inquisition so they liked settling in Muslim territories and I think only southern Croatia was under Ottoman rule.
Yes, in Bosnia almost all Jews were Sephardic (many of them in Sarajevo) and they came after expulsion from Spain. Ottomans were more tolerant towards Jews than Catholics at one moment of history, which is interesting fact.
Dalmatia was Venetian posession and Jews mostly settled in coastal cities (correct me if wrong but Jews of Venice proper were also mostly Sephardic) and free Ragusan Republic (Dubrovnik) which had political/economic agreements with Ottoman Empire which let them alone.

[Sp_loa]

Yes, in Bosnia almost all Jews were Sephardic (many of them in Sarajevo) and they came after expulsion from Spain. Ottomans were more tolerant towards Jews than Catholics at one moment of history, which is interesting fact.
Dalmatia was Venetian posession and Jews mostly settled in coastal cities (correct me if wrong but Jews of Venice proper were also mostly Sephardic) and free Ragusan Republic (Dubrovnik) which had political/economic agreements with Ottoman Empire which let them alone.

Jews settled in Spain since the first century. As christianity became the religion of Spain jews begun to suffer from Persecution’s and expulsion. Many jews “converted” to christianity but kept practicing judaism in secret. When Muslims started to conquer Spain the jews helped them. Jews prospered under the Msulim rule until the Muslim decided that the jews are taking their work places and begun to persecute them. At that time extreme Islam raised in Spain and jews had to convert to Islam (In North Africa too). Jews fled to the christian kingdoms of Northern Spain and helped the christians taking over spain again. Then in 1391 Jews were persecuted by christians all over Spain . About 250,000 jews converted in one day (or atleast a short period) and dozen of other were brutally murdered. Jews returned to Muslim kingdoms of Southern Spain . Due to inquisition converted jews couldn’t return to judaism otherwise they would face death with tortures . In 1492 all of Iberia was christian again and jews were expelled. Many left to portugal (their destiny in portugal was much more tragic - so many death and torture even towards infants. They couldn’t even leave and many families and kids were sent to Isolated islands and jails without food or water until they died or converted ) . Many died but most converted. They jews who managed to leave on time fled to the Ottoman Empire and North Africa (Morocco and Algeria) because they understood muslims were much more tolerant than Christians). Exception were the jews who went to Italy. About 150 years later some Portuguese convertors begun leaving towards Netherlands,Hamburg,England and Belgium and they returned to judaism but most died during holocaust anyway.
There are still communities of convertors in Portugal (Bellmonte Jews) and in South America.

[Kamal900]

Other Arabic speaking Levantines including the Christians and the Druze, Samaritans, and Mizrahi Jews in general.

[Art23]

The question is too vague. I plot closest to different populations in different calculators, mostly with Eastern Europe of course: Ukrainians, eastern Poles, Slovaks, Hunagrians and South-West Russians.

[MercifulServant]

1.Romania
2.Serbia
3.Bulgaria

In 10 calculators at least

Which 10?

[oszkar07]

Based on most of my Eurogenes results I tend to plot closest to Austrian's and East German's and then Hungarians is pretty close.
The K36 Geographical plots me in Upper Bavaria a little west of Czeh border.