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TheForeigner
01-27-2018, 02:26 PM
Did Russians in Stalin's day had a problem with being ruled by a Georgian? Do some Russians living today hate that? Does anyone refer to him as churka? Sure the mutt Lenin was not a real Russian either, but Stalin was from the Caucasus and many Russians look down people from there.

Böri
01-27-2018, 02:43 PM
Half Georgian but also half Osset. He was born into Orthodox religious family.

Sundqvist
01-27-2018, 02:47 PM
https://youtu.be/nSHOCY92c7g

ЛыSSый
01-27-2018, 04:17 PM
definition churka is more about mentality. for example bigger part of romanians here easily pass as churkas by behavour.

Art23
01-27-2018, 04:20 PM
He was. Mentally, Stalin was not a European person.

CrazyCatLady
01-27-2018, 04:20 PM
Probably.

Mingle
01-27-2018, 04:22 PM
He was. Mentally, Stalin was not a European person.

True. He was Middle Eastern both by blood and mentality, not European. Same goes for Beria.

Mingle
01-27-2018, 04:23 PM
Yes, Beria was also a churka.

silentkiller
01-27-2018, 04:37 PM
Stalin was a very educated man, he used to read like 400 pages a day. Churka is a definition of rather mentality than ethnic slur. If a Tajik or Dagestani has a good education, speaks Russian well, then no one will call him a churka. Many Albanians or Turks behave like churkas in this forum, although they have never been to Russia.

LoLeL
01-27-2018, 04:42 PM
Stalin was a very educated man, he used to read like 400 pages a day. Churka is a definition of rather mentality than ethnic slur. If a Tajik or Dagestani has a good education, speaks Russian well, then no one will call him a churka. Many Albanians or Turks behave like churkas in this forum, although they have never been to Russia.

Now Stalin is my hero. :loveheart:

glass
01-27-2018, 04:52 PM
Yes Stalin was typical sneaky and backstabbing churka (tjat is why he won bolshevik ffa deathmatch), responsible for turning Russia into semi-churka state.

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 04:53 PM
at least he was not gypsy

ЛыSSый
01-27-2018, 04:57 PM
let we better speak about Hrushchov

https://svopi.ru/uploads/posts/2016-09/1473147721_1390077467_27675002_hruschyov_copy.gif

Dandelion
01-27-2018, 04:58 PM
Stalin was a very educated man, he used to read like 400 pages a day.

Many of us read that worth in forum posts. ;)

ЛыSSый
01-27-2018, 05:54 PM
The most sucsessful preachers

https://cs10.pikabu.ru/post_img/2018/01/27/11/151707770312465244.png

greasycaveman
01-27-2018, 05:55 PM
wtf kind of question is this?

greasycaveman
01-27-2018, 05:58 PM
Sure the mutt Lenin was not a real Russian either, but Stalin was from the Caucasus and many Russians look down people from there.

two fucking dumb statements.
so romanov isnt a real russian because he was a "mutt"?
and russians dont look down on people from the caucasus.
apricity has permanantly damaged your brain.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 05:58 PM
True. He was Middle Eastern both by blood and mentality, not European. Same goes for Beria.

Troll of the century.

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 06:06 PM
whats wrong if Georgia is considered as Middle East/West Asia?

greasycaveman
01-27-2018, 06:08 PM
Sure the mutt Lenin was not a real Russian either,

So according to you, a mutt: means having ancestry from different places?
I guess the diaspora from modern day south slavic countries (half native half slavic) and central european countries (half slavic half germanic) are mutts?
He is as Russian as any other Russian, and he cared and loved the Russian people.
Take a look at how many Lenin statues there are in Russia. Almost every city.

Mingle
01-27-2018, 06:08 PM
Troll of the century.

You can argue if Georgians are European by culture, but by DNA they are closer to other West Asians than to Europeans :p

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 06:10 PM
Did Russians in Stalin's day had a problem with being ruled by a Georgian? Do some Russians living today hate that? Does anyone refer to him as churka? Sure the mutt Lenin was not a real Russian either, but Stalin was from the Caucasus and many Russians look down people from there.

Lol,that's obviously just on a retarted forums like this.Many Russians love Georgian people and Caucasians in general and we're friends irl.Stalin was a saint for many Russians and even is now for some

https://c.radikal.ru/c10/1801/20/d925eb4119a0.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://c.radikal.ru/c01/1801/1b/8a40e2eae15c.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://b.radikal.ru/b33/1801/5b/1e59cf3e3fe9.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://a.radikal.ru/a35/1801/92/cb235130338b.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

There are too many retarted people on this forum,now some even claim Caucasians are mid. Easterners :picard1:

greasycaveman
01-27-2018, 06:11 PM
You can argue if Georgians are European by culture, but by DNA they are closer to other West Asians than to Europeans :p

but they arent south west asian, which is middle eastern.

greasycaveman
01-27-2018, 06:14 PM
Lol,that's obviously just on a retarted forums like this.Many Russians love Georgian people and Caucasians in general and we're friends irl.Stalin was a saint for many Russians and even is now for some
:

Yes, many people cry and miss soviet leaders. Lenin's statue is almost in every town. There is soviet memorials in almost every town.
Many people in a study in Russia wanted the soviet union again, and have nostalgia for it.

Hadouken
01-27-2018, 06:16 PM
You can argue if Georgians are European by culture, but by DNA they are closer to other West Asians than to Europeans :p

northwest asia is not "middle east" . call me whatever you want for saying this . 'I know some people dont like me saying this for whatever reason . I guess putting people into cupboards with labels they choose is making them happy and we are supposed to accept it. but the facts are on my side

it is even more lulzy to call Georgia middle east . I can understand to a certain degree if you call other northwest asians middle eastern but with Georgia ...that is one of the biggest idiotic things one can do in the anthrofora world actually .

greasycaveman
01-27-2018, 06:18 PM
my cousins. my grandfather is on the right, on the sign.
https://scontent.fhsv1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13174007_1205732162785005_3352937731054702067_n.jp g?oh=9dba04bdf954e101dc3de286c1b888e5&oe=5AEFF5D4

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 06:19 PM
You can argue if Georgians are European by culture, but by DNA they are closer to other West Asians than to Europeans :p

Lol.Keep on dreaming.Georgians are typical Europeans by their pigmentation/skin color and phenotypes,not only by culture.

Your so called ,,West Asians''_Caucasians are even one of the most goodlooking white people.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 06:28 PM
Your Caucasian ,,churkas'',mid. EAsteRn,wEst Asian genes,0% European
(Georgians,Chechens,Circassians,Osettians)

https://b.radikal.ru/b14/1801/89/f14c7ac67bbb.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://a.radikal.ru/a23/1801/c7/9538f30cacc8.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://c.radikal.ru/c16/1801/7e/3018b25e2a5f.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://c.radikal.ru/c29/1801/54/7531abe7ea73.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://b.radikal.ru/b37/1801/38/a651f66c63df.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://d.radikal.ru/d12/1801/49/ac0ae1521e96.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://b.radikal.ru/b28/1801/22/8e36a5ff2826.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://b.radikal.ru/b21/1801/60/12267c0d9272.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://a.radikal.ru/a39/1801/b5/a2e449bbc250.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://c.radikal.ru/c33/1801/c5/6bc3286bc4fb.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://d.radikal.ru/d41/1801/3c/b4f1af72a0cf.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

https://c.radikal.ru/c21/1801/24/bf0195fe95a6.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

Pahli
01-27-2018, 06:31 PM
Your Caucasian ,,churkas'',mid. EAsteRn,wEst Asian genes,0% European

You don't need to be European to look "white", I have family members that look like those children in those pictures, and I'm ironically "Middle Eastern"

CrazyCatLady
01-27-2018, 06:32 PM
Lol.Keep on dreaming.Georgians are typical Europeans by their pigmentation/skin color and phenotypes,not only by culture.

Your so called ,,West Asians''_Caucasians are even one of the most goodlooking white people.

Caucasians are closer to West Asians/MENAs than to Europeans genetically. Brag about ''whiteness'' all you can, but even the darkest South Italians and Spaniards are still much more European than Caucasians by genetics.

ЛыSSый
01-27-2018, 06:37 PM
You don't need to be European to look "white", I have family members that look like those children in those pictures, and I'm ironically "Middle Eastern"

use h2o2 and basement for being more white.

Hadouken
01-27-2018, 06:38 PM
I wonder if mongoloids or others also talk like this . "we more yellow than you" etc. :picard1: this is so silly and missing the point so many times

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 06:45 PM
You don't need to be European to look "white", I have family members that look like those children in those pictures, and I'm ironically "Middle Eastern"

I'm not surprised at all,many Iranians are white,I know and not all Iranians are Persian.White people don't live only in Europe,but culture also matters,I'm sure you're not aware of Georgian culture as much as I am.Caucasus is by some definitions in Europe and by some in Asia,it is at the borders of these two continents(But irl it's just one continent called Eurasia) :) p.s. Everyone who has light skin color and features is white,there's no need to argue about it,even those who live in Mid. East
Claiming white people who consider themselves European and have European culture aren't Europeans is very dumb,silly and childish. After all everyone must mind his own culture and own business.

https://c.radikal.ru/c21/1801/0c/21266a71ab2a.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 06:48 PM
my cousins. my grandfather is on the right, on the sign.
https://scontent.fhsv1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13174007_1205732162785005_3352937731054702067_n.jp g?oh=9dba04bdf954e101dc3de286c1b888e5&oe=5AEFF5D4

The one with dark hair kinda looks like you

Pahli
01-27-2018, 06:59 PM
Georgian culture can considered a bit more European shifted because they are dominantly Christian, but they still remain within the West Asian cluster genetically.

But I don't consider myself White, because I think its a term for Europeans

Hadouken
01-27-2018, 07:06 PM
Nosferatu . Pahli is Kurdish from Iran

you guys are still missing the point with your whiteness talk .

saying Georgia is Middle East is the biggest proof that the term "middle east" is fucking retarded to begin with

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 07:08 PM
Georgian culture can considered a bit more European shifted because they are dominantly Christian, but they still remain within the West Asian cluster genetically.

But I don't consider myself White, because I think its a term for Europeans

:picard1:

Why are you so obsessed with us?
We're Caucasians and cluster with Caucasians,we live in the Caucasus and have Caucasian/European culture. Caucasus,Caucasian culture = / = Asia/Asian ! It's a whole different thing.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 07:10 PM
Nosferatu . Pahli is Kurdish from Iran

you guys are still missing the point with your whiteness talk .

saying Georgia is Middle East is the biggest proof that the term "middle east" is fucking retarded to begin with

No it just means that he's either very uneducated or just a troll

user_
01-27-2018, 07:12 PM
Georgians were never called churkas in Russia.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 07:16 PM
Georgians were never called churkas in Russia.

And there were many Russian-Georgian families in Russia as I know,even now. They have lots of Georgian celebrities also.

Pahli
01-27-2018, 07:18 PM
:picard1:

Why are you so obsessed with us?
We're Caucasians and cluster with Caucasians,we live in the Caucasus and have Caucasian/European culture. Caucasus,Caucasian culture = / = Asia/Asian ! It's a whole different thing.

Lol are you fucking serious? I am just stating obvious facts. No need to get offended, you obviously need to chill the fuck out lmfao.


No it just means that he's either very uneducated or just a troll

I'm not uneducated, you just need to calm the fuck down xD

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 07:24 PM
Lol are you fucking serious? I am just stating obvious facts. No need to get offended, you obviously need to chill the fuck out lmfao.



I'm not uneducated, you just need to calm the fuck down xD

No,it's me who is stating obvious facts.
I'm chill af Mr.obvious :D

Maybe not you but ,,Mingle'' surely is.

user_
01-27-2018, 07:28 PM
You guys do not understand the conflict between Georgia and Russia. This is political conflict, not ethnic.
And lol Russians never watched on Georgians down, Georgians were one of the leading nation in empire, despite being one of the smallest.
Russians still love Georgia, and Georgians love Russia. I have never been called churka, I have lot of Russian friends.

Rumata
01-27-2018, 07:29 PM
In USSR this slur used to be reserved for Central Asians. Later it began to encompass Caucasians too. I'm not sure if it was used in the time of Stalin at all. But I think back then this attitude wasn't tolerated much by the authorities.

In Russian:
Чурки (национальное прозвище)
Подробнее: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B8_(%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86 %D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D 0%B5_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%89%D0 %B5)

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 07:31 PM
You guys do not understand the conflict between Georgia and Russia. This is political conflict, not ethnic.
And lol Russians never watched on Georgians down, Georgians were one of the leading nation in empire, despite being one of the smallest.
Russians still love Georgia, and Georgians love Russia. I have never been called churka, I have lot of Russian friends.

+

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 07:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7spdLQkDt3I

Mingle
01-27-2018, 07:46 PM
No,it's me who is stating obvious facts.
I'm chill af Mr.obvious :D

Maybe not you but ,,Mingle'' surely is.

Lol, I was talking about autosomal DNA not phenotype or skin color. Georgia is more similar autosomally to countries seen as Middle Eastern (Iran, Turkey, etc) than to European countries. Anyways, most people here I thought saw Northwest Asia (Iran, Turkey, etc) as Middle Eastern, that's why I made that statement. If those countries aren't Middle Eastern, then my statement doesn't apply.

Böri
01-27-2018, 07:47 PM
:picard1:

Why are you so obsessed with us?.

:) That's their 'West Asian' Ultranationalism, deal with it.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 07:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7spdLQkDt3I

Lol I can't

:rotfl

Pahli
01-27-2018, 08:07 PM
:) That's their 'West Asian' Ultranationalism, deal with it.

Lol, here's the pure "Türk" that scores 70% West Asian / Middle Eastern autosomally, butthurt as fuck xD

user_
01-27-2018, 08:11 PM
Lol, here's the pure "Türk" that scores 70% West Asian / Middle Eastern autosomally, butthurt as fuck xD

So called west asian component is leading in Caucasus, not in Middle East.

War Chief
01-27-2018, 08:12 PM
lol @ "Georgians are European"

They are genetically closer to Saudi's then they are to Bulgarians

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 08:23 PM
lol @ "Georgians are European"

They are genetically closer to Saudi's then they are to Bulgarians

https://b.radikal.ru/b40/1801/7e/72c2f0b36aa6.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

CrazyCatLady
01-27-2018, 08:26 PM
https://b.radikal.ru/b40/1801/7e/72c2f0b36aa6.jpg (https://radikal.ru)

Learn genetics instead of bitching here.

He's right, Georgians are closer to Saudis than to most Euros.

Hadouken
01-27-2018, 08:27 PM
Learn genetics instead of bitching here.

He's right, Georgians are closer to Saudis than to most Euros.

Nope

you are interpreting it wrongly . Georgians are far from saudis . I will explain later. Cant do it on phone

silentkiller
01-27-2018, 08:32 PM
Many of us read that worth in forum posts. ;)
But what matters is the usefulness of the gained knowledge. I think that it tends to zero :D

user_
01-27-2018, 08:40 PM
Learn genetics instead of bitching here.

He's right, Georgians are closer to Saudis than to most Euros.71930
Some Euros are closer to Saudis than Georgians.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 08:42 PM
Learn genetics instead of bitching here.

He's right, Georgians are closer to Saudis than to most Euros.

I don't even want to comment this shittery
You guys need a serious doctor to cure you from this so-called geneticomania xD Try living real lives and to open your eyes to see the reality behind your cuckoo science
p.s. You're so naive you didn't even guess he said that as a joke.We are genetically close to nor Bulgarians or Saudis by this genetic blubber but we obviously look like more Bulgarians than Saudis. In fact we and Bulgarians almost look the same.(and of course culturally are closer to them)

Pahli
01-27-2018, 08:48 PM
So called west asian component is leading in Caucasus, not in Middle East.

Don't play stupid; I am counting in West Asian, SW Europe and SW Asian components, these all originated in West Asia.

user_
01-27-2018, 08:51 PM
Learn genetics instead of bitching here.

He's right, Georgians are closer to Saudis than to most Euros.

https://a.radikal.ru/a29/1801/3c/f07aa22925c4.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 08:57 PM
71930
Some Euros are closer to Saudis than Georgians.



but georgians closer to iranians xd

user_
01-27-2018, 09:04 PM
but georgians closer to iranians xd

Yes, some Iranians can be close. Iran is a big and diverse country.
Georgians are genetically quite far from most Euros, but even more far from Saudis.

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 09:06 PM
but georgians closer to iranians xd

Iranians are diverse,they look nothing like each other,they just share the related languages.Some Iranian groups have very dark features and look like 'niggers' while some are redheads etc. Caucasian ,,Iranians''-Osettians which live in Georgia and north Osettia are very light skinned people,often with light hair also.

The Iranian peoples,[2] or Iranic peoples,[3][4][5] are a diverse Indo-European ethno-linguistic group that comprise the speakers of the Iranian languages.[6][7]
In the 1st millennium AD, their area of settlement was reduced as a result of Slavic, Germanic, Turkic and Mongol expansions and many being subjected to Slavicisation.[12][13][14][15] Modern Iranian peoples include the Baloch, Gilaks, Kurds, Lurs, Mazanderanis, Ossetians, Pashtuns, Pamiris, Persians, Tajiks, the Talysh, Wakhis and Yaghnobis.

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 09:07 PM
https://s9.postimg.org/thczlpogv/Es_D3_Gfi.jpg

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 09:08 PM
Iranians are diverse,they look nothing like each other,they just share the related languages.Some Iranian groups have very dark features and look like 'niggers' while some are redheads etc. Caucasian ,,Iranians''-Osettians which live in Georgia and north Osettia are very light skinned people,often with light hair also.

The Iranian peoples,[2] or Iranic peoples,[3][4][5] are a diverse Indo-European ethno-linguistic group that comprise the speakers of the Iranian languages.[6][7]
In the 1st millennium AD, their area of settlement was reduced as a result of Slavic, Germanic, Turkic and Mongol expansions and many being subjected to Slavicisation.[12][13][14][15] Modern Iranian peoples include the Baloch, Gilaks, Kurds, Lurs, Mazanderanis, Ossetians, Pashtuns, Pamiris, Persians, Tajiks, the Talysh, Wakhis and Yaghnobis.




Ossetians are Caucasus people not Iranians

Nosferatu_
01-27-2018, 09:14 PM
Ossetians are Caucasus people not Iranians

They are counted as ,,Iranian'',that's why they aren't on the genetic maps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians and yes we're related to them

p.s.Iranian doesn't mean dark or even tanned skinned,it's just a linguistic termin and not all Iranic people live in Iran

But again,what matters is a culture not genetics,Osettians despite grouping them under the name ,,Iranic'' are Christians,white,therefore closer to Europe and I consider them as Europeans.

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 09:22 PM
They are counted as ,,Iranian'',that's why they aren't on the genetic maps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians and yes we're related to them

p.s.Iranian doesn't mean dark or even tanned skinned,it's just a linguistic termin and not all Iranic people live in Iran




you are not related to them, north caucasus is not related to you. Dont say bullshit

Hadouken
01-27-2018, 09:23 PM
Georgian gedmatch results

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 50.58
2 East_Med 24.1
3 West_Med 8
4 Baltic 7.08
5 Red_Sea 2.89
6 South_Asian 2.85
7 North_Atlantic 2.73
8 Amerindian 1.5
9 Northeast_African 0.13
10 Oceanian 0.09
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 3.87
2 Abhkasian 5.25
3 Adygei 9.23
4 Ossetian 11.2
5 North_Ossetian 11.33
6 Kumyk 11.88
7 Kurdish 12.06
8 Balkar 12.59
9 Kabardin 13.85
10 Chechen 14.61
11 Lezgin 14.8
12 Iranian 15.06
13 Armenian 15.62
14 Azeri 15.69
15 Tabassaran 17.76
16 Georgian_Jewish 17.76
17 Turkish 19.22
18 Assyrian 21.73
19 Turkmen 22.45
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.1


____________________________________________


1 West_Asian 53.16
2 East_Med 19.31
3 West_Med 9.54
4 North_Atlantic 6.61
5 Baltic 5.23
6 South_Asian 2.98
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
11 Oceanian 0.03
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 3.99
2 Abhkasian 5.63
3 Ossetian 7.81
4 Adygei 8.78
5 North_Ossetian 9.75
6 Balkar 11.24
7 Kumyk 12.68
8 Kabardin 12.73
9 Chechen 13.28
10 Lezgin 13.98
11 Kurdish 16.03
12 Tabassaran 16.19
13 Azeri 18.88
14 Iranian 19.12
15 Armenian 19.36
16 Turkish 21.79
17 Georgian_Jewish 22.38
18 Turkmen 23.45
19 Makrani 25.95
20 Assyrian 26.1

__________________________________________________ ______________


# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 56.65
2 East_Med 26.93
3 West_Med 12.47
4 South_Asian 2.48
5 Red_Sea 0.62
6 East_Asian 0.46
7 Oceanian 0.34
8 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 6.71
2 Georgian 8.91
3 Ossetian 16.99
4 Kurdish 17.44
5 Armenian 17.47
6 Adygei 17.64
7 North_Ossetian 18.63
8 Balkar 19.48
9 Iranian 20.7
10 Kumyk 20.74
11 Georgian_Jewish 20.97
12 Kabardin 21.59
13 Azeri 21.71
14 Chechen 23.16
15 Lezgin 23.58
16 Turkish 24.29
17 Assyrian 24.43
18 Tabassaran 26.25
19 Kurdish_Jewish 27.64
20 Iranian_Jewish 28.17

__________________________________________________ _

1 West_Asian 56.69
2 East_Med 22.17
3 West_Med 12.9
4 North_Atlantic 2.64
5 East_Asian 1.91
6 Baltic 1.66
7 Red_Sea 0.96
8 South_Asian 0.87
9 Northeast_African 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 4.81
2 Georgian 6.44
3 Ossetian 13.16
4 Adygei 14.69
5 North_Ossetian 15.19
6 Balkar 16.19
7 Kabardin 18.26
8 Kumyk 18.42
9 Kurdish 18.59
10 Armenian 19.38
11 Chechen 19.88
12 Lezgin 20.72
13 Iranian 21.94
14 Azeri 22.04
15 Georgian_Jewish 22.87
16 Tabassaran 23.17
17 Turkish 24.31
18 Assyrian 26.52
19 Turkmen 27.73
20 Makrani 29.37

_______________________________________________

1 West_Asian 43.89
2 East_Med 25.96
3 West_Med 12.45
4 North_Atlantic 6.27
5 Red_Sea 3.93
6 Baltic 3.1
7 Siberian 2.18
8 South_Asian 1.03
9 Oceanian 0.91
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian 9.09
2 Armenian 10.01
3 Kurdish 10.09
4 Abhkasian 10.95
5 Azeri 11.46
6 Turkish 12.36
7 Adygei 12.55
8 Kumyk 12.67
9 Ossetian 12.95
10 Georgian_Jewish 13.27
11 Balkar 13.59
12 Iranian 13.78
13 North_Ossetian 14.6
14 Kabardin 15.52
15 Assyrian 16.58
16 Chechen 17.86
17 Lezgin 18.62
18 Kurdish_Jewish 20.06
19 Turkmen 20.39
20 Iranian_Jewish 20.48

_________________________

1 West_Asian 55.79
2 East_Med 26.24
3 West_Med 11.24
4 Baltic 2.31
5 Red_Sea 1.86
6 South_Asian 0.75
7 Siberian 0.53
8 Amerindian 0.49
9 Sub-Saharan 0.29
10 East_Asian 0.27
11 Northeast_African 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Abhkasian 4.65
2 Georgian 6.79
3 Ossetian 15.4
4 Adygei 15.53
5 North_Ossetian 16.54
6 Kurdish 16.55
7 Armenian 17.09
8 Balkar 17.63
9 Kumyk 18.79
10 Kabardin 19.55
11 Iranian 19.77
12 Georgian_Jewish 20.09
13 Azeri 20.66
14 Chechen 21.16
15 Lezgin 21.58
16 Turkish 23.33
17 Assyrian 23.85
18 Tabassaran 24.43
19 Kurdish_Jewish 27.08
20 Iranian_Jewish 27.63

Hadouken
01-27-2018, 09:28 PM
Saudi gedmtach results : compare with the georgian ones

1 East_Med 40.98
2 Red_Sea 38.59
3 Northeast_African 8.1
4 West_Med 5.06
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 South_Asian 2.21
7 Oceanian 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 7.76
2 Yemenite_Jewish 13.97
3 Bedouin 19.62
4 Egyptian 21.62
5 Palestinian 24.68
6 Jordanian 26.13
7 Samaritan 29.05
8 Syrian 29.43
9 Lebanese_Christian 31.26
10 Libyan_Jewish 31.34
11 Tunisian_Jewish 32.1
12 Tunisian 32.44
13 Lebanese_Muslim 32.54
14 Algerian 32.88
15 Moroccan 33.19
16 Lebanese_Druze 33.33
17 Mozabite_Berber 34.87
18 Sephardic_Jewish 35.58
19 Kurdish_Jewish 35.75
20 Cyprian 35.83

______________________________________

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.55
2 Red_Sea 36.92
3 West_Asian 15.89
4 West_Med 3.5
5 Northeast_African 1.82
6 East_Asian 1.18
7 South_Asian 1.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 7.19
2 Yemenite_Jewish 16.51
3 Bedouin 17.34
4 Palestinian 21.48
5 Jordanian 22.99
6 Egyptian 23.79
7 Syrian 24.47
8 Samaritan 25.34
9 Lebanese_Christian 26.64
10 Lebanese_Muslim 27.42
11 Lebanese_Druze 28.56
12 Kurdish_Jewish 28.63
13 Iranian_Jewish 29.07
14 Libyan_Jewish 30.37
15 Tunisian_Jewish 30.56
16 Cyprian 31.66
17 Assyrian 31.97
18 Georgian_Jewish 33.13
19 Sephardic_Jewish 33.33
20 Algerian_Jewish 34.99

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 09:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICgrHfGQNw



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CB_YBYODUc

Mingle
01-27-2018, 10:00 PM
They are counted as ,,Iranian'',that's why they aren't on the genetic maps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians and yes we're related to them

p.s.Iranian doesn't mean dark or even tanned skinned,it's just a linguistic termin and not all Iranic people live in Iran

But again,what matters is a culture not genetics,Osettians despite grouping them under the name ,,Iranic'' are Christians,white,therefore closer to Europe and I consider them as Europeans.

On GEDmatch and other DNA stuff, the term 'Iranian' only refers to people from the Islamic Republic of Iran (whose populace is mainly Persian) and never refers to Ossetians.

Porn Master
01-27-2018, 10:12 PM
On GEDmatch and other DNA stuff, the term 'Iranian' only refers to people from the Islamic Republic of Iran (whose populace is mainly Persian) and never refers to Ossetians.



yes



https://s9.postimg.org/thczlpogv/Es_D3_Gfi.jpg



blue triangle north ossetians. have nothing to do with iranians

Gangrel
01-27-2018, 10:14 PM
I wonder if mongoloids or others also talk like this . "we more yellow than you" etc. :picard1: this is so silly and missing the point so many times

I eat more rice than u white boi hahaha go eat bread

War Chief
01-27-2018, 11:09 PM
Georgians are fucking gross Mesopotamian monkeys and Tbilisi should be shelled with artillery

user_
01-28-2018, 05:14 AM
Georgians are fucking gross Mesopotamian monkeys and Tbilisi should be shelled with artillery

Next time you will escaping from Russia, do not come to "Mesopotamia" for shelter, calling us broders lol.

glass
01-28-2018, 05:16 AM
whats wrong if Georgia is considered as Middle East/West Asia?
I bet Georgia is Central Europe these days.

Georgians were never called churkas in Russia.
lmao

Böri
01-28-2018, 05:39 AM
Georgians cluster with Abkhasians and they seem to be an isolate population in terms of genetics. It's not like Armenians who are genetically Assyrians, nor they are like Chechens or Lezgins.

user_
01-28-2018, 07:40 AM
Georgians cluster with Abkhasians and they seem to be an isolate population in terms of genetics. It's not like Armenians who are genetically Assyrians, nor they are like Chechens or Lezgins.

Georgians and Abkhazians are the most pure and less mixed caucasian population, we have our own cluster.

sean
07-18-2019, 03:43 PM
Yes, Stalin promoted his co-ethnics like Beria and they spent their time raping thousands of Russian girls and torturing and executing millions of Russian patriots. If Stalin were around today, he would be a perfectly ordinary illegal immigrant churka fruit seller.

Ironically, Armenian and Georgian churkas were literally all the scientists and engineers in the Soviet Union.

ixulescu
07-18-2019, 04:01 PM
Ironically, Armenian and Georgian churkas were literally all the scientists and engineers in the Soviet Union.

True, they were overrepresented at the top in all fields during the Soviet times.
Which goes to show that any population can have important contributions given a major opening (like the Caucasians had from the top Soviet politicians of Caucasian descent).

Where are all the Armenian engineers and scientists now? Nowhere to be found. That window of opportunity has closed.

Rumata
07-18-2019, 04:48 PM
True, they were overrepresented at the top in all fields during the Soviet times.
Which goes to show that any population can have important contributions given a major opening (like the Caucasians had from the top Soviet politicians of Caucasian descent).

Where are all the Armenian engineers and scientists now? Nowhere to be found. That window of opportunity has closed.

Ignorant, now my region has more Armenians than it ever had during USSR by times. What window has closed? :picard1: The matter is where they are really overrepresented is commerce and business. Not engineering at all. Isn't it best not to meddle in a discussion you have no idea about?

ixulescu
07-18-2019, 05:00 PM
Ignorant, now my region has more Armenians than it ever had during USSR by times. What window has closed? :picard1: The matter is where they are really overrepresented is commerce and business. Not engineering at all. Isn't it best not to meddle in a discussion you have no idea about?

Even my basic knowledge in the matter allows me to say they were overrepresented in Soviet engineering. Armenian engineers occupied top positions like Artem Mikoyan (of MiG fame), Alexander Kemurdzhian (Lunokhod designer) and Mikhail Pogosyan (former director at Sukhoi).

In contrast, for instance, I haven't heard of any Estonian engineers in Soviet times, though I'm sure there were many. I doubt that's a coincidence.

Rumata
07-18-2019, 05:42 PM
Even my basic knowledge in the matter allows me to say they were overrepresented in Soviet engineering. Armenian engineers occupied top positions like Artem Mikoyan (of MiG fame), Alexander Kemurdzhian (Lunokhod designer) and Mikhail Pogosyan (former director at Sukhoi).

In contrast, for instance, I haven't heard of any Estonian engineers in Soviet times, though I'm sure there were many. I doubt that's a coincidence.

3 names isn't that much to talk about any over representation indeed.

Here's a list of 200 surnames of Soviet engineers out of which only 3.5% are Armenian. And out of those 3.5% two percents probably originate from Jews (Abramyan).


https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D 1%8F:%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D1 %8B_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0
А

Абалаков, Виталий Михайлович
Абаринов, Андрей Андреевич
Абдулбасиров, Магомедтагир Меджидович
Абдулманапов, Магомед-Загид
Абелев, Марк Юрьевич
Абелев, Юда Мордухович
Абесадзе, Рамаз Борисович
Абрамов, Анатолий Петрович (учёный)
Абрамович, Борис Михайлович
Абрамович, Семён Шмилович
Абрамян, Владимир Арамаисович
Абрамян, Карен Гургенович
Абрамян, Сурен Джангирович
Абрамян, Сурен Теодорович
Абросимов, Борис Захарович
Авдеев, Валентин Николаевич
Авилов-Карнаухов, Борис Николаевич
Авраменко, Станислав Александрович
Агаджанов, Павел Артемьевич
Агаларов, Араз Искендер оглы
Агафонов, Анатолий Викторович
Агеев, Виктор Николаевич
Агеев, Михаил Дмитриевич
Азриелович, Семён Савельевич
Айвазов, Юрий Николаевич
Айзенберг, Григорий Захарович
Айзеншпис, Юрий Шмильевич
Аким, Эфраим Лазаревич
Акимов, Александр Васильевич (флагман)
Акимов, Александр Егорович
Акопов, Нерсес Иванович
Александров, Борис Капитонович
Алексеев, Борис Александрович
Алексеев, Юрий Георгиевич (журналист)
Алексеенко, Михаил Фёдорович
Алёхин, Николай Павлович
Алёшин, Сергей Никифорович
Алиджанов, Али Халилович
Алиев, Такиулла Абдулханнанович
Алимова, Ольга Николаевна
Алмазов, Николай Иванович
Алфёрова, Татьяна Георгиевна
Алферьев, Михаил Яковлевич
Алыпов, Алексей Иванович
Альтерман, Лев Григорьевич
Альтшулер, Анатолий Евгеньевич
Алябьев, Виктор Иванович
Амирян, Роберт Паргевович
Анашкин, Александр Алексеевич
Андрианов, Сергей Николаевич
Анисимов, Вячеслав Александрович
Анисимов, Леонид Иванович
Аносов, Фёдор Васильевич
Анохин, Виктор Васильевич
Антипашин, Николай Михайлович
Антонов, Алексей Константинович (политик)
Антонов, Анатолий Петрович
Апаров, Борис Петрович
Аппазов, Рефат Фазылович
Апышков, Владимир Петрович
Ардашев, Борис Павлович
Аренгольд, Марк Александрович
Арефьев, Вячеслав Павлович
Арипов, Абдулла Нигматович
Арошидзе, Юрий Васильевич
Арраго, Роман Семёнович
Архаров, Михаил Алексеевич
Архипов, Владимир Георгиевич
Архипов, Николай Николаевич (1907—1963)
Арцутанов, Юрий Николаевич
Асцатрян, Егише Тевосович
Афанасьев, Николай Михайлович
Афанасьев, Сергей Иванович
Ахмедов, Мамед Наджаф оглы
Ашик, Виктор Владимирович

Б

Бабайцев, Игорь Владимирович
Бабакин, Георгий Николаевич
Бабат, Георгий Ильич
Бабич, Евгений Петрович
Бабкин, Анатолий Иванович
Баварин, Владимир Николаевич
Багиров, Аббас Мамедович
Бадинтер, Ефим Яковлевич
Бажанов, Василий Михайлович
Байсаров, Леонид Владимирович
Байтенов, Ноян Ахмедиярович
Бакулин, Николай Иванович
Бакут, Пётр Алексеевич
Бакши, Оскар Александрович
Балабуев, Пётр Васильевич
Балакшин, Сергей Александрович
Балцан, Лев Иосифович
Банасевич, Александр Максимович
Банников, Григорий Константинович
Баран, Яков Ионович
Баранов, Николай Иванович (конструктор)
Барков, Леонид Андреевич
Бармин, Владимир Павлович
Барсков, Михаил Константинович
Барсуков, Александр Яковлевич (кораблестроитель)
Барсуков, Алексей Алексеевич
Барсуков, Анатолий Иванович (директор)
Бартини, Роберт Людвигович
Барулин, Михаил Михайлович
Бас-Дубов, Александр Самойлович
Басс, Илья Абрамович
Баталин, Юрий Петрович
Бахрах, Лев Давидович
Бачелис, Александр Семёнович
Безбородов, Николай Александрович
Бекенов, Асхат Сакибеденович
Беклемишев, Михаил Николаевич
Белкина, Софья Гдальевна
Белобров, Андрей Павлович
Белов, Александр Романович
Белоголовый, Аполлон Аполлонович
Белозеров, Анатолий Нилович
Белолипецкий, Алексей Яковлевич
Белоножкин, Александр Иванович
Белоусов, Александр Николаевич
Белоусов, Борис Михайлович
Белоусов, Юрий Леонидович
Белоцерковский, Нахман Овсеевич
Белый, Иван Михайлович (Герой Социалистического Труда)
Белькинд, Лев Давидович
Беляев, Александр Фёдорович
Беляев, Борис Иосафович
Беляев, Николай Иванович (инженер)
Бененсон, Евсей Исаакович
Бененсон, Залман Михайлович
Берг, Аксель Иванович
Берг, Иосиф Вениаминович
Бергольцев, Леонид Ефимович
Бережной, Игорь Александрович
Березин, Всеволод Леонидович
Березин, Яков Давыдович
Берилов, Рафаил Иванович
Беринг, Владимир Михайлович
Берия, Серго Лаврентьевич
Берман, Михаил Михайлович
Бернштейн, Михаил Александрович
Берштейн, Лазарь Исаакович
Бесполов, Федот Евдокимович
Бехтерев, Пётр Владимирович
Бехтин, Николай Васильевич
Бируля, Александр Константинович
Бисноват, Матус Рувимович
Благих, Владимир Тимофеевич
Блиндерман, Владимир Михайлович
Блохин, Николай Александрович
Блохина, Лидия Васильевна
Блюхер, Василий Васильевич
Бобовиков, Ратмир Степанович
Бобров, Виктор Павлович
Бобров, Рэм Исаакович
Богданов, Натфулла Хуснуллович
Богданов, Николай Николаевич (МЭИ)
Богданов, Пётр Алексеевич (председатель ВСНХ)
Богданов, Юрий Иванович
Богомолов, Владислав Николаевич
Богорад, Виктор Борисович
Богоявленский, Константин Васильевич
Бойко, Владимир Петрович
Бойко, Генрих Харитонович
Бойцев, Анатолий Александрович
Бокк, Владимир Владимирович
Боклевский, Константин Петрович
Болбот, Ануфрий Викентьевич
Большаков, Алексей Алексеевич (политик)
Бондаренко, Владимир Данилович
Бондаренко, Михаил Леонтьевич
Бондарчук, Александр Васильевич
Бондарь, Владимир Алексеевич
Бордюков, Михаил Михайлович
Боровский, Виктор Митрофанович
Бородкин, Константин Васильевич
Бородулин, Анатолий Иванович
Бортновский, Константин Антонович
Босник, Борис Степанович
Боханевич, Константин Иустович
Бочкин, Андрей Ефимович
Брежнев, Андрей Юрьевич
Брежнев, Леонид Ильич
Бреус, Алексей Алексеевич
Бродский, Михаил Юрьевич
Бронфман, Леонид Израилевич
Бронштейн, Михаил Наумович
Брохович, Борис Васильевич
Брусенцов, Николай Петрович
Будницкий, Лев Давыдович
Бузинов, Михаил Михайлович
Бузько, Наталья Евгеньевна
Буйняков, Юрий Архипович
Бунин, Сергей Алексеевич
Бункин, Борис Васильевич
Бураков, Пётр Герасимович
Бурашников, Борис Филиппович
Бурда, Борис Оскарович
Бурлаков, Вадим Михайлович
Буров, Алексей Степанович

ixulescu
07-18-2019, 06:28 PM
3 names isn't that much to talk about any over representation indeed.

Here's a list of 200 surnames of Soviet engineers out of which only 3.5% are Armenian. And out of those 3.5% two percents probably originate from Jews (Abramyan).


https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D 1%8F:%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D1 %8B_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0
А

Абалаков, Виталий Михайлович
Абаринов, Андрей Андреевич
Абдулбасиров, Магомедтагир Меджидович
Абдулманапов, Магомед-Загид
Абелев, Марк Юрьевич
Абелев, Юда Мордухович
Абесадзе, Рамаз Борисович
Абрамов, Анатолий Петрович (учёный)
Абрамович, Борис Михайлович
Абрамович, Семён Шмилович
Абрамян, Владимир Арамаисович
Абрамян, Карен Гургенович
Абрамян, Сурен Джангирович
Абрамян, Сурен Теодорович
Абросимов, Борис Захарович
Авдеев, Валентин Николаевич
Авилов-Карнаухов, Борис Николаевич
Авраменко, Станислав Александрович
Агаджанов, Павел Артемьевич
Агаларов, Араз Искендер оглы
Агафонов, Анатолий Викторович
Агеев, Виктор Николаевич
Агеев, Михаил Дмитриевич
Азриелович, Семён Савельевич
Айвазов, Юрий Николаевич
Айзенберг, Григорий Захарович
Айзеншпис, Юрий Шмильевич
Аким, Эфраим Лазаревич
Акимов, Александр Васильевич (флагман)
Акимов, Александр Егорович
Акопов, Нерсес Иванович
Александров, Борис Капитонович
Алексеев, Борис Александрович
Алексеев, Юрий Георгиевич (журналист)
Алексеенко, Михаил Фёдорович
Алёхин, Николай Павлович
Алёшин, Сергей Никифорович
Алиджанов, Али Халилович
Алиев, Такиулла Абдулханнанович
Алимова, Ольга Николаевна
Алмазов, Николай Иванович
Алфёрова, Татьяна Георгиевна
Алферьев, Михаил Яковлевич
Алыпов, Алексей Иванович
Альтерман, Лев Григорьевич
Альтшулер, Анатолий Евгеньевич
Алябьев, Виктор Иванович
Амирян, Роберт Паргевович
Анашкин, Александр Алексеевич
Андрианов, Сергей Николаевич
Анисимов, Вячеслав Александрович
Анисимов, Леонид Иванович
Аносов, Фёдор Васильевич
Анохин, Виктор Васильевич
Антипашин, Николай Михайлович
Антонов, Алексей Константинович (политик)
Антонов, Анатолий Петрович
Апаров, Борис Петрович
Аппазов, Рефат Фазылович
Апышков, Владимир Петрович
Ардашев, Борис Павлович
Аренгольд, Марк Александрович
Арефьев, Вячеслав Павлович
Арипов, Абдулла Нигматович
Арошидзе, Юрий Васильевич
Арраго, Роман Семёнович
Архаров, Михаил Алексеевич
Архипов, Владимир Георгиевич
Архипов, Николай Николаевич (1907—1963)
Арцутанов, Юрий Николаевич
Асцатрян, Егише Тевосович
Афанасьев, Николай Михайлович
Афанасьев, Сергей Иванович
Ахмедов, Мамед Наджаф оглы
Ашик, Виктор Владимирович

Б

Бабайцев, Игорь Владимирович
Бабакин, Георгий Николаевич
Бабат, Георгий Ильич
Бабич, Евгений Петрович
Бабкин, Анатолий Иванович
Баварин, Владимир Николаевич
Багиров, Аббас Мамедович
Бадинтер, Ефим Яковлевич
Бажанов, Василий Михайлович
Байсаров, Леонид Владимирович
Байтенов, Ноян Ахмедиярович
Бакулин, Николай Иванович
Бакут, Пётр Алексеевич
Бакши, Оскар Александрович
Балабуев, Пётр Васильевич
Балакшин, Сергей Александрович
Балцан, Лев Иосифович
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Excellent, but I haven't heard about 99% of them. I'm talking about overrepresentation at the top.

Rumata
07-18-2019, 06:38 PM
Excellent, but I haven't heard about 99% of them. I'm talking about overrepresentation at the top.

I guess you have no proof for this statement.

Besides, you said the following ravings were "true":

Armenian and Georgian churkas were literally all the scientists and engineers in the Soviet Union.

ixulescu
07-18-2019, 07:49 PM
I guess you have no proof for this statement.

Besides, you said the following ravings were "true":

you're deliberately misquoting me. I said they were overrepresented, not that they were "literally all the scientists and engineers in the Soviet Union."
where did you come up with that?

and why are you so upset with this? what's your point?

Rumata
07-19-2019, 04:28 AM
you're deliberately misquoting me. I said they were overrepresented, not that they were "literally all the scientists and engineers in the Soviet Union."
where did you come up with that?

I quoted sean, not you. But you've quoted him and said what he said were "true". Do you try to play dumb or troll me??


Ironically, Armenian and Georgian churkas were literally all the scientists and engineers in the Soviet Union.





and why are you so upset with this? what's your point?

Because you talk BS. The matter is in USSR they were most overrepresented in the shoe repairing service. And now also in trade, commerce and business. That is where money flow the most.
And you supposed there are less of them in Russia now. While it's exactly the other way around.

Arsen_
07-24-2019, 10:04 PM
3 names isn't that much to talk about any over representation indeed.
Here's a list of 200 surnames of Soviet engineers out of which only 3.5% are Armenian. And out of those 3.5% two percents probably originate from Jews (Abramyan).


Ты действительно такой клинический идиот или косишь под идиота?? Абрамян это распространенная армянская фамилия и имеет не больше отношения к евреям, чем русские Абрамовы, американские Абраамы Линкольны и т.д и т.п.

P.S. Тебя наверное в детстве обидели сверстники армяне, сейчас свои детские комплексы реализуешь тут.

Arsen_
07-24-2019, 10:20 PM
True, they were overrepresented at the top in all fields during the Soviet times.
Which goes to show that any population can have important contributions given a major opening (like the Caucasians had from the top Soviet politicians of Caucasian descent).

Where are all the Armenian engineers and scientists now? Nowhere to be found. That window of opportunity has closed.

In fact, there are a lot of brilliant Armenian scientists and engineers in today's Russia as well. And I can name them if you are interested. And do not listen to that clinical idiot Rumata. Most likely in his childhood he was beaten by Armenian child and now he is implementing his children's complexes here.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 05:54 AM
Most likely in his childhood he was beaten by Armenian child and now he is implementing his children's complexes here.

When people like Arsen hear something they find unpleasant, even if it's true they instantly think about beating you up. That's surely a part of 'churka mentality'.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 06:06 AM
In fact, there are a lot of brilliant Armenian scientists and engineers in today's Russia as well. And I can name them if you are interested. And do not listen to that clinical idiot Rumata. Most likely in his childhood he was beaten by Armenian child and now he is implementing his children's complexes here.

In my childhood I once helped an Armenian girl against the aggression of her classmates? Why do you have to be such a stinky moron?

I'm not an idiot at all. Everybody in Russia knows that Armenians are overrepresented in food markets, in trade, in taxi and shoe repair services. Yes, many extremely rich Russians are of Armenian origin.

Arsen_
07-25-2019, 06:41 AM
In my childhood I once helped an Armenian girl against the aggression of her classmates? Why do you have to be such a stinky moron?

I'm not an idiot at all. Everybody in Russia knows that Armenians are overrepresented in food markets, in trade, in taxi and shoe repair services. Yes, many extremely rich Russians are of Armenian origin.

You're just an ungrateful disgusting pig.

I will apparently write a special post about how many Armenians in the regular tsarist Russian army and as volunteers fought, how many of them occupied the posts of commanders and top officers when Russia conquered the lands of the present Krasnodar region where you live now.

By the way, here is another simple fact Armenians make up aboit 5-10% of the population of Krasnodar Region, but they pay about 30% of all taxes to local budgets of Krasnodar Region.

Another fact, the most generous maecenas and biggest philanthropist in the Krasnodar region, who on his own money created a new and very successful football team Krasnodar, on his own money built a new city stadium for Krasnodar, is a businessman of Armenian origin.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 06:53 AM
You're just an ungrateful disgusting pig.

There's nothing I should be grateful for to the dirty mouth scum like yourself.


I will apparently write a special post about how many Armenians in the regular tsarist Russian army and as volunteers fought, how many of them occupied the posts of commanders and top officers when Russia conquered the lands of the present Krasnodar region where you live now.

You write this off-topic here only to make a point. It's clear, because earlier you wrote that I should pay for Circassians who were expelled by those Armenian military men you now talk about. Forked tongue.


By the way, here is another simple fact Armenians make up aboit 5-10% of the population of Krasnodar Region, but they pay about 30% of all taxes to local budgets of Krasnodar Region.

Another fact, the most generous maecenas and biggest philanthropist in the Krasnodar region, who on his own money created a new and very successful football team Krasnodar, on his own money built a new city stadium for Krasnodar, is a businessman of Armenian origin.

I don't think you can prove those 30% in any way. But indeed there's a partly Armenian 'philanthropist' billionaire here who made his fortune selling us rotten food. I don't think he invented anything of worth though. Just made use of our money.
Professional football doesn't benefit to the society.

Stay on topic if you can. I don't have time to discuss everything you want to say about Armenians.

Arsen_
07-25-2019, 07:10 AM
But indeed there's a partly Armenian 'philanthropist' billionaire here who made his fortune selling us rotten food. I don't think he invented anything of worth though. Just made use of our money.
Professional football doesn't benefit to the society.

You're truly sick and most likely incurable.


Stay on topic if you can. I don't have time to discuss everything you want to say about Armenians.

As for staying on topic, well during Stalin's lifetime pigs like you put their tounges deep in their asses and stuck out their tounges only when they ass-licking very hard and with great love Stalin and other leaders from Caucasus.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 07:17 AM
You're truly sick and most likely incurable.

As for staying on topic, well during Stalin's lifetime pigs like you put their tounges deep in their asses and stuck out their tounges only when they ass-licking very hard and with great love Stalin and other leaders from Caucasus.

Your modern Armenian nouveau riches have nothing (nothing) to do with Stalin. Shut up with your delirious fantasies and get lost. Don't forget you have Armenia which existence was granted by Russian army.

Not a Cop
07-25-2019, 07:19 AM
By the way, here is another simple fact Armenians make up aboit 5-10% of the population of Krasnodar Region, but they pay about 30% of all taxes to local budgets of Krasnodar Region.



Where do you get this information from?

Arsen_
07-25-2019, 07:23 AM
Where do you get this information from?

Читал об этом, и источник был вполне надежный. Если станет вопрос принципа, поищу и найду!

Not a Cop
07-25-2019, 07:27 AM
Читал об этом, и источник был вполне надежный. Если станет вопрос принципа, поищу и найду!

Ну давай, просто звучит бредово, никогда не видел, чтобы минфин давал статистику по национальностям.

Lazio
07-25-2019, 07:28 AM
In USSR this slur used to be reserved for Central Asians. Later it began to encompass Caucasians too. I'm not sure if it was used in the time of Stalin at all.

I've heard that, at least in his young days, Stalin would avoid speeches, because people could think less of him because of his accent... did you ever heard something similar about that?

Rumata
07-25-2019, 07:33 AM
I've heard that, at least in his young days, Stalin would avoid speeches, because people could think less of him because of his accent... did you ever heard something similar about that?
No, I didn't. The matter is in the late USSR, authorities tried to make people to forget about him.

Lazio
07-25-2019, 07:35 AM
No, I didn't. The matter is in the late USSR, authorities tried to make people to forget about him.

The reason?

Arsen_
07-25-2019, 07:39 AM
Your modern Armenian nouveau riches have nothing (nothing) to do with Stalin. Shut up with your delirious fantasies and get lost. Don't forget you have Armenia which existence was granted by Russian army.

Don't worry about Armenia. You are clueless about geopolitics. Armenia will exist even if the whole Russia disappears from the earth.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 07:42 AM
The reason?

They've changed the political course of the country ever since his death until the system collapsed in Perestroika initiated from above.

De-Stalinization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Stalinization)

Lazio
07-25-2019, 07:45 AM
They've changed the political course of the country ever since his death until the system collapsed in Perestroika initiated from above.

De-Stalinization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Stalinization)

I was not aware that along with Perestroika came a cultural effort as well.
Thanks for the answers!

Rumata
07-25-2019, 07:45 AM
Armenia will exist even if the whole Russia disappears from the earth.

That is why you are in Moscow now.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 07:48 AM
I was not aware that along with Perestroika came a cultural effort as well.
Thanks for the answers!

It's widely acknowledged in Russia that with Perestroika came cultural degradation.
You're welcome.

Arsen_
07-25-2019, 07:50 AM
Ну давай, просто звучит бредово, никогда не видел, чтобы минфин давал статистику по национальностям.

Это не была какая-то сводка минфина. Если память мне не изменяет, эти цифры были озвучены несколько лет назад краснодарскими официальными лицами во время приема делегации из Армении.

Во всяком случае я гарантирую, что эта информация была опубликована и я её читал собственными глазами.

Rumata
07-25-2019, 07:53 AM
Это не была какая-то сводка минфина. Если память мне не изменяет, эти цифры были озвучены несколько лет назад краснодарскими официальными лицами во время приема делегации из Армении. :joker000: