How much European would you think they are?

[Token]

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[CrazyCatLady]

60-70% for both.

[Thracian]

First guy is 50-60%.

Second one is 70-80%.

[Decius]

75-80%

[Demon Revival]

They look like udmurts.

[Jana]

70-80% range, something like Finno Ugric minorities in Russia

[Marmara]

Guy on top looks very Central Asian.

[Veslan]

50-75%

[Pahli]

Guy on top looks very Central Asian.

He doesn't look typical, he is more Uralid type IMO, atypical Pomiri maybe as well.

[Linebacker]

Probably close to 90%.

You don't need that much foreign admixture for it to show on you.There was a guy on the forum who scored only 5% SSA yet he clearly had very visible wide afro nose and afro face shapes.

[Marmara]

He doesn't look typical, he is more Uralid type IMO, atypical Pomiri maybe as well.

I think he might be Tajik or Afghan. Girl looks Uralid.

[Erronkari]

Probably close to 90%.

You don't need that much foreign admixture for it to show on you.There was a guy on the forum who scored only 5% SSA yet he clearly had very visible wide afro nose and afro face shapes.

To show in the phnenotype it's needed 5% SSA and around 8% the case of asian or amerindian. So it makes sense.

[Demon Revival]

To show in the phnenotype it's needed 5% SSA and around 8% the case of asian or amerindian. So it makes sense.

There are plenty of cases that don't follow this rule. 5% SSA should be negligible physically by most accounts.

For example look at most North Africans. They can be up to 20% SSA and it doesn't show in a lot of them.

[CrazyCatLady]

There are plenty of cases that don't follow this rule. 5% SSA should be negligible physically by most accounts.

For example look at most North Africans. They can be up to 20% SSA and it doesn't show in a lot of them.

It can vary, I think he was saying someone who is 5% SSA can show some traits, the same for someone who is around 10% Asian/Amerindian.
But you can easily have people scoring only 70% European and looking European and others scoring 90% and looking mixed.

[Erronkari]

There are plenty of cases that don't follow this rule. 5% SSA should be negligible physically by most accounts.

For example look at most North Africans. They can be up to 20% SSA and it doesn't show in a lot of them.

I agreed. It depends of the case.
Our mate from Costa Rica, Vascontelo, scores around 27% native american and 4% SSA and in my opinion he looks totally southern european.
So, you are right.

[Token]

To show in the phnenotype it's needed 5% SSA and around 8% the case of asian or amerindian. So it makes sense.

This has more to do with personal perception rather than true inheritance. Any percentage of your ancestry will be present in your overall phenotype, this is a scientific fact, but if people will perceive it or not is quite subjective. Generally, >10% will be unperceivable solely by visual inspection.

[Erronkari]

This has more to do with personal perception rather than true inheritance. Any percentage of your ancestry will be present in your overall phenotype, this is a scientific fact, but if people will perceive it or not is quite subjective. Generally, >10% will be unperceivable solely by visual inspection.

Probably in Europe is different, in my country nobody perceive when a person has 2% SSA or 4% amerind contribution in the gene pool.

[Token]

Probably in Europe is different, in my country nobody perceive when a person has 2% SSA or 4% amerind contribution in the gene pool.
I don't think it is different in Europe. Such percentages will almost never be visible, but people's perception is flawed, no matter how 'trained' they are. With proper instruments and methods though, it is quite easy to identify even low percentages of admixture.

[Sp_loa]

around 70%

[Erronkari]

I don't think it is different in Europe. Such percentages will almost never be visible, but people's perception is flawed, no matter how 'trained' they are. With proper instruments and methods though, it is quite easy to identify even low percentages of admixture.

Ok, I understood.
But in my country the street people don't perceive nothing exotic in those cases because most people are not 100% pure.
But I understand which you say.

[Meagi]

50% first
70% girl.

Can you answer my post bellow about the colombian girl?

[Nosferatu_]

male_65%
female_75%
But both of them can pass in Russia very well

[Demon Revival]

This has more to do with personal perception rather than true inheritance. Any percentage of your ancestry will be present in your overall phenotype, this is a scientific fact, but if people will perceive it or not is quite subjective. Generally, >10% will be unperceivable solely by visual inspection.

Yes, most people can only see the face and pigmentation. But inner organs, proportions, body hair, skull, etc will likely vary a bit. Those are a part of "phenotype" no one takes into account.

There is also the subjectivity that a couple of traits in certain races could be mistaken one from another. A browridge has almost the same probabilities of popping up either due to Amerindian or European ancestry. Same for a "hooked" nose. I don't think I even need to mention thick straight dark hair.

[helg]

both are Udmurts. Do not look like Europeans to me, they are half-breed.

[Odin]

1. 60%.
2. 70%.