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Sasuke
02-07-2018, 02:44 AM
This was a troll thread. I'm sorry, I deeply regret being a troll; I'll nevermore troll.

JohnSmith
02-07-2018, 02:45 AM
screw those crackers.

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 03:12 AM
screw those crackers.

LOL you're white yourself.

JohnSmith
02-07-2018, 03:16 AM
LOL you're white yourself.

not in the pants!! I also know how to dance so I ain't a cracker!

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 03:17 AM
not in the pants!! I also know how to dance so I ain't a cracker!

You seriously need a psychiatrist urgently...

greasycaveman
02-07-2018, 03:19 AM
You seriously need a psychiatrist urgently...

dont worry he is not all there, mentally.

JohnSmith
02-07-2018, 03:19 AM
You seriously need a psychiatrist urgently...

ok.

JohnSmith
02-07-2018, 03:21 AM
dont worry he is not all there, mentally.

A joke is a joke.

greasycaveman
02-07-2018, 03:23 AM
A joke is a joke.

my joke is also a joke

Decius
02-07-2018, 03:44 AM
I won't even bother responding to this. ancient Egyptians were middle eastern genetically.its been proven already this we wuz kangz theory is a fantasy

Smeagol
02-07-2018, 03:54 AM
Article doesn't provide any sources except the debunked DNATribes study.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_hqvSMlqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bg0hs3tt00

Carlito's Way
02-07-2018, 04:18 AM
I won't even bother responding to this. ancient Egyptians were middle eastern genetically.its been proven already this we wuz kangz theory is a fantasy

No study has proven anything because not all fucking ancient egyptians were pharohs only a very small numbers of them, no more than 30.

Secondly. No study has ever been done on the earliest ancient egyptian pharohs

And thirdly. There is no study done on the ancient egyptian population and im not speaking about the pharohs byt actual egyptian non-pharoh population

And lastly, even ancient late egyptian pharohs scored ssa which suggest that the ancient pharohs got less and less SSA through the introduction of middle eastern caucasoid people

Smeagol
02-07-2018, 04:41 AM
And thirdly. There is no study done on the ancient egyptian population and im not speaking about the pharohs byt actual egyptian non-pharoh population

Wrong, the study was not on Pharaohs, but regular Egyptians buried at Abusir.


And lastly, even ancient late egyptian pharohs scored ssa which suggest that the ancient pharohs got less and less SSA through the introduction of middle eastern caucasoid people

They scored less SSA than modern Egyptians.

Carlito's Way
02-07-2018, 04:54 AM
Wrong, the study was not on Pharaohs, but regular Egyptians buried at Abusir.



They scored less SSA than modern Egyptians.

Wrong, they were mummies, regular civilians werent mummified at all smh
And yes they score less ssa due to the introduction of middle easterners


The same way ancient americans were fully amerindian
Then came the colonizers who turned america into a majority white nation
But due to the recent introduction of mexican immigrants and other latinos, the amerindian of average america is higher


Do you understand how mix race nations work and how things can change through the introduction of colonizers and new immigrants????? North africa was never middle eastern genetically and you cant not show me a study that suggest the ancient north africans were middle eastern people at all

So lets cut the bullshit already

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 12:46 PM
I won't even bother responding to this. ancient Egyptians were middle eastern genetically.its been proven already this we wuz kangz theory is a fantasy

Of course it is, but I need someone to teach me how to refute each one of these 11 claims so that I can improve my arguments against this fantasy; if not you, then another person; thank you anyway.

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 12:49 PM
Wrong, the study was not on Pharaohs, but regular Egyptians buried at Abusir.

I'M REALLY GLAD TO KNOW THAT! THANK YOU SO MUCH! :D


They scored less SSA than modern Egyptians.

This I already knew, but I still thank you a lot for the first one, I didn't know that and really needed to know so, then that's a great thing! Thank you.

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 12:59 PM
No study has ever been done on the earliest ancient egyptian pharohs

It doesn't matter anyway... I'm tired of trolling white people, I'm on a break... perhaps an eternal break because I already had all the fun and the laughs I could possibly get from trolling them, so from now on I'm just gonna be serious and normal as I am in real life. Trolling is like drinking: it's cool, but exaggerating on it is never a good idea, right? Not sure if YOU are trolling them, but I was (well, WAS)! Now that I'm no longer trolling, let me school your black ass a little bit: the Old Kingdom and Middle Kingdom don't matter a shit! Egypt's most glorious period was the New Kingdom, which was exactly the ONLY period that had the ONLY pharaoh who was given the title of The Great by non-Egyptians. That's all that matters, as NO other Egyptian received this title (a title commonly used to refer to great Indo-European ancient conquerors, Ramses The Great being the only Egyptian to ever receive it).

Kriptc06
02-07-2018, 01:33 PM
Article doesn't provide any sources except the debunked DNATribes study.
[video=youtube;bP_hqvSMlqw]video1/video]
[video=youtube;-bg0hs3tt00]video2/video]

excellent videos! It's true that Ramses was likely E-V22.

I knew about CT being Eurasian, but that modern negroid would have been a mix of ancient north africans and khoisan is news to me, One question, does MTdna corroborate with this hypothesis? Is L3 Eurasian then? thanks.

Carlito's Way
02-07-2018, 02:50 PM
excellent videos! It's true that Ramses was likely E-V22.

I knew about CT being Eurasian, but that modern negroid would have been a mix of ancient north africans and khoisan is news to me, One question, does MTdna corroborate with this hypothesis? Is L3 Eurasian then? thanks.

L3 is african, you camt get educated on her by these eurocentric cunts, next they will claim D1 and A2 is Eurasian as well smh

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 03:23 PM
L3 is african

You must be very ignorant to be unaware that North African and sub-Saharan African are completely distinct races; North Africans being morphologically and musculoskeletally more similar (nearly identical in these terms) to Europeans than to sub-Saharan Africans.

Carlito's Way
02-07-2018, 03:38 PM
You must be very ignorant to be unaware that North African and sub-Saharan African are completely distinct races; North Africans being morphologically and musculoskeletally more similar (nearly identical in these terms) to Europeans than to sub-Saharan Africans.

North africa is a region dumbass and i doubt you have ever seen a north african since you live in brazil smh
North africans are on average 20-40% ssa which is BLACK

This is an average moroccan group which is what fhe average in europe also looks like
https://s27.postimg.org/428pxfgz7/rock.184.1.6350.jpg


And of course they will differ from pure blacks, thats because they are not pure blacks you idiot but thye lean more on the euro side

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 03:51 PM
North africa is a region dumbass

So what? The people from that region have been racially distinct from SSA since PREHISTORY!


and i doubt you have ever seen a north african since you live in brazil smh

I met one over here once. His skin was dark but his morphology had absolutely nothing to do with Negroid morphology.


North africans are on average 20-40% ssa which is BLACK

Nowadays, after centuries of Arab/Islamic slave trade of blacks, yet 20-40% is still low because if you consider the large amount of blacks that the Arabs took from sub-Saharan Africa and traded as slaves in North Africa, then it's technically a miracle that they aren't 90% or even 100% SSA nowadays.


This is an average moroccan group which is what fhe average in europe also looks like
https://s27.postimg.org/428pxfgz7/rock.184.1.6350.jpg

Cool story, bro. Most Moroccans are Muslims, and the few minority of non-Muslim ones are either Christians or religious Jews, so you show me a picture of people wearing devil shirts and you expect me to buy it... LOL!


And of course they will differ from pure blacks, thats because they are not pure blacks you idiot but thye lean more on the euro side

So you just agreed with me and proved my point: that they lean more on the Euro side, as you just said in your own words. You should receive a Nobel Prize for your high level of self-contradiction.

Profileid
02-07-2018, 04:04 PM
North africa is a region dumbass and i doubt you have ever seen a north african since you live in brazil smh
North africans are on average 20-40% ssa which is BLACK

This is an average moroccan group which is what fhe average in europe also looks like
https://s27.postimg.org/428pxfgz7/rock.184.1.6350.jpg


And of course they will differ from pure blacks, thats because they are not pure blacks you idiot but thye lean more on the euro side

You're deliberately choosing the north african pop with the most ssa. It's pretty obvious they're a MENA/med population.
Libyans
http://images3.imagebam.com/2c/5b/88/97ba1b181064110.jpg

http://images3.imagebam.com/c8/81/ba/9112ad181063861.jpg
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/gallery_image/public/libya-benghazi-10-2011-2-25.jpg?itok=GASS_Gq3
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/story_main/public/libya-women-revolution-2011-9-2.jpg?itok=bgCPuwqs

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-07-2018, 04:08 PM
You're deliberately choosing the north african pop with the most ssa. It's pretty obvious they're a MENA/med population.
Libyans
http://images3.imagebam.com/2c/5b/88/97ba1b181064110.jpg

http://images3.imagebam.com/c8/81/ba/9112ad181063861.jpg
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/gallery_image/public/libya-benghazi-10-2011-2-25.jpg?itok=GASS_Gq3
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gifLibyans are like 14 percent ssa I think on average

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 04:38 PM
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You're deliberately choosing the north african pop with the most ssa. It's pretty obvious they're a MENA/med population.
Libyans
http://images3.imagebam.com/2c/5b/88/97ba1b181064110.jpg

http://images3.imagebam.com/c8/81/ba/9112ad181063861.jpg
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/gallery_image/public/libya-benghazi-10-2011-2-25.jpg?itok=GASS_Gq3
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/story_main/public/libya-women-revolution-2011-9-2.jpg?itok=bgCPuwqs

As this thread is about the ancient Egyptians, there's nothing better for me to do now other than showing this ignoramus (Carlito's Way) the faces of the COPTS, who are the purest living direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians due to the fact that they've been refusing to intermarry with the Arab invaders for centuries. THESE ARE THE COPTS, THE PUREST LIVING DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS THEMSELVES:

https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.113828:1499266859/image/jpeg.jpg?$p=79ddad7&w=1136&$w=ec52ab9
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/IoeRi3CFwEBlVzyN4Z6YMA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2g9NjAwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/acc82645ca5ca10ff15a8949a46f109600d56a40.jpg
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170409200815-04-coptic-christian-egypt-exlarge-169.jpg
http://cdn.iview.abc.net.au/thumbs/460/rn/RN1611H022S00_5990dd5d07540_1280.jpg
http://www.copts-united.com/English/Uploads/203/SA627.jpg

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-07-2018, 04:47 PM
As this thread is about the ancient Egyptians, there's nothing better for me to do now other than showing this ignoramus (Carlito's Way) the faces of the COPTS, who are the purest living direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians due to the fact that they've been refusing to intermarry with the Arab invaders for centuries. THESE ARE THE COPTS, THE PUREST LIVING DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS THEMSELVES:

https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.113828:1499266859/image/jpeg.jpg?$p=79ddad7&w=1136&$w=ec52ab9
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/IoeRi3CFwEBlVzyN4Z6YMA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2g9NjAwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/acc82645ca5ca10ff15a8949a46f109600d56a40.jpg
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170409200815-04-coptic-christian-egypt-exlarge-169.jpg
http://cdn.iview.abc.net.au/thumbs/460/rn/RN1611H022S00_5990dd5d07540_1280.jpg
http://www.copts-united.com/English/Uploads/203/SA627.jpgCopts are just one group of ancient egyptians. Egyptians varied from region and ethnic origin. And copts are christians. They came about during hellenistic period.

Heather Duval
02-07-2018, 04:51 PM
Libyans are like 14 percent ssa I think on average

why they dont look brazilians with the same % of ssa? people with 14% ssa here looks clearly part black, and some dont

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-07-2018, 04:55 PM
why they dont look brazilians with the same % of ssa? people with 14% ssa here looks clearly part black, and some dont

They kind of do but they also dont have native american ancestry.

Mingle
02-07-2018, 04:55 PM
why they dont look brazilians with the same % of ssa? people with 14% ssa here looks clearly part black, and some dont

At least half of that 14% "SSA" is ancient East African.

Sasuke
02-07-2018, 04:58 PM
Egyptians varied from region and ethnic origin.

Prove it.


And copts are christians. They came about during hellenistic period.

Their traditions hold that they're indigenous Egyptians who converted to Christianity.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-07-2018, 05:14 PM
Prove it.



Their traditions hold that they're indigenous Egyptians who converted to Christianity.They werent light skinned till the later ages of egypt. Its all on their paintings. Herodotus says they had wooly hair and their skin was darker then greeks.so they werent light skinned or tanned or at least light tanned.


They had nubians and medjay who were also different ethnic groups. Medjay come from sudan also. They had puntites. Ect. Puntites are somalis I think

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-07-2018, 05:32 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ababda_people

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Ababda.jpg

Raizen
02-07-2018, 07:38 PM
At least half of that 14% "SSA" is ancient East African.

How much proper ssa do modern egyptians score?

Black Panther
02-07-2018, 07:40 PM
not in the pants!! I also know how to dance so I ain't a cracker!

You don't get a pass just because you are half-dago. :cool:

The Illyrian Warrior
02-07-2018, 07:42 PM
Whoever told you so, he was right, just look what crap you've posted and compare with what actual genetic study says about ancient egyptians.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-egyptians-europeans-related-claims-a7763866.html

he team of scientists has recovered and analysed ancient DNA from Egyptian mummies dating from approximately 1400 BC to 400 AD - and they discovered they were genetically similar to people from the Mediterranean.

Researchers from the University of Tuebingen and the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, conducted the first study to establish a proper genetic database to study the ancient past.

The study, published in Nature Communications, found that modern Egyptians share more ancestry with Sub-Saharan Africans than ancient Egyptians did.

JohnSmith
02-07-2018, 11:05 PM
You don't get a pass just because you are half-dago. :cool:

I get a pass because I got soul.

RN97
02-07-2018, 11:56 PM
You're more of nordicist nigger with a huge inferiority complex.

dperucca
02-08-2018, 12:14 AM
Any thread I read that starts off with "I am not a 'INSERT IDEOLOGICAL IDENTIFICATION HERE'but.." I immediately become skeptical.

Smeagol
02-08-2018, 01:53 AM
excellent videos! It's true that Ramses was likely E-V22.

I knew about CT being Eurasian, but that modern negroid would have been a mix of ancient north africans and khoisan is news to me, One question, does MTdna corroborate with this hypothesis? Is L3 Eurasian then? thanks.

L3 is african, you camt get educated on her by these eurocentric cunts, next they will claim D1 and A2 is Eurasian as well smh

Yes, L3 seems to be Eurasian.
Background: After three decades of mtDNA studies on human evolution the only incontrovertible main result is the African origin of all extant modern humans. In addition, a southern coastal route has been relentlessly imposed to explain the Eurasian colonization of these African pioneers. Based on the age of macrohaplogroup L3, from which all maternal Eurasian and the majority of African lineages originated, that out-of-Africa event has been dated around 60-70 kya. On the opposite side, we have proposed a northern route through Central Asia across the Levant for that expansion. Consistent with the fossil record, we have dated it around 125 kya. To help bridge differences between the molecular and fossil record ages, in this article we assess the possibility that mtDNA macrohaplogroup L3 matured in Eurasia and returned to Africa as basic L3 lineages around 70 kya.

Results: The coalescence ages of all Eurasian (M,N) and African L3 lineages, both around 71 kya, are not significantly different. The oldest M and N Eurasian clades are found in southeastern Asia instead near of Africa as expected by the southern route hypothesis. The split of the Y-chromosome composite DE haplogroup is very similar to the age of mtDNA L3. A Eurasian origin and back migration to Africa has been proposed for the African Y-chromosome haplogroup E. Inside Africa, frequency distributions of maternal L3 and paternal E lineages are positively correlated. This correlation is not fully explained by geographic or ethnic affinities. It seems better to be the result of a joint and global replacement of the old autochthonous male and female African lineages by the new Eurasian incomers.

Conclusions: These results are congruent with a model proposing an out-of-Africa of early anatomically modern humans around 125 kya. A return to Africa of Eurasian fully modern humans around 70 kya, and a second Eurasian global expansion by 60 kya. Climatic conditions and the presence of Neanderthals played key roles in these human movements.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/12/13/233502

The presence of the L haplogroup common in Africa was unexpected given the clustering of the Saudis with Europeans in the phylogenetic tree and suggests some recent African admixture. To examine this further, we performed formal tests for a history of admixture and found no evidence of African admixture in the Saudi after the split. Taken together, these analyses suggest that the L3 haplogroup found in the Saudi were present before the bottleneck 50,000 YBP. Given the TMRCA estimates for the L3 haplogroup of approximately 70,000 YBP and the timing of the Out-of-Africa split, these analyses suggest that L3 haplogroup arose in the Middle East with a subsequent back migration and expansion into Africa over the Horn-of-Africa during the lower sea levels found during the glacial period bottleneck.
http://www.ashg.org/2013meeting/abstracts/fulltext/f130122833.htm

Smeagol
02-08-2018, 01:55 AM
Herodotus says they had wooly hair

He said they were curly haired. Actual studies of Dynastic mummy hair finds it to be mostly Caucasian.

Kamal900
02-08-2018, 01:57 AM
Yes, L3 seems to be Eurasian.
Background: After three decades of mtDNA studies on human evolution the only incontrovertible main result is the African origin of all extant modern humans. In addition, a southern coastal route has been relentlessly imposed to explain the Eurasian colonization of these African pioneers. Based on the age of macrohaplogroup L3, from which all maternal Eurasian and the majority of African lineages originated, that out-of-Africa event has been dated around 60-70 kya. On the opposite side, we have proposed a northern route through Central Asia across the Levant for that expansion. Consistent with the fossil record, we have dated it around 125 kya. To help bridge differences between the molecular and fossil record ages, in this article we assess the possibility that mtDNA macrohaplogroup L3 matured in Eurasia and returned to Africa as basic L3 lineages around 70 kya.

Results: The coalescence ages of all Eurasian (M,N) and African L3 lineages, both around 71 kya, are not significantly different. The oldest M and N Eurasian clades are found in southeastern Asia instead near of Africa as expected by the southern route hypothesis. The split of the Y-chromosome composite DE haplogroup is very similar to the age of mtDNA L3. A Eurasian origin and back migration to Africa has been proposed for the African Y-chromosome haplogroup E. Inside Africa, frequency distributions of maternal L3 and paternal E lineages are positively correlated. This correlation is not fully explained by geographic or ethnic affinities. It seems better to be the result of a joint and global replacement of the old autochthonous male and female African lineages by the new Eurasian incomers.

Conclusions: These results are congruent with a model proposing an out-of-Africa of early anatomically modern humans around 125 kya. A return to Africa of Eurasian fully modern humans around 70 kya, and a second Eurasian global expansion by 60 kya. Climatic conditions and the presence of Neanderthals played key roles in these human movements.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/12/13/233502

The presence of the L haplogroup common in Africa was unexpected given the clustering of the Saudis with Europeans in the phylogenetic tree and suggests some recent African admixture. To examine this further, we performed formal tests for a history of admixture and found no evidence of African admixture in the Saudi after the split. Taken together, these analyses suggest that the L3 haplogroup found in the Saudi were present before the bottleneck 50,000 YBP. Given the TMRCA estimates for the L3 haplogroup of approximately 70,000 YBP and the timing of the Out-of-Africa split, these analyses suggest that L3 haplogroup arose in the Middle East with a subsequent back migration and expansion into Africa over the Horn-of-Africa during the lower sea levels found during the glacial period bottleneck.
http://www.ashg.org/2013meeting/abstracts/fulltext/f130122833.htm

I'm really surprised that they still cling to the notion that ancient Egypt was some Black civilization when in reality it was a middle eastern one, and the people today that cluster to the ancient Egyptians today are the modern Egyptians which includes Copts, Palestinians and other Levantine Muslims and Arabians especially Yemenite Jews, Bedouins and Saudis.

JohnSmith
02-08-2018, 01:58 AM
I'm really surprised that they still cling to the notion that ancient Egypt was some Black civilization when in reality it was a middle eastern one, and the people today that cluster to the ancient Egyptians today are the modern Egyptians which includes Copts, Palestinians and other Levantine Muslims and Arabians especially Yemenite Jews, Bedouins and Saudis.

How do we really know that there was no SSA in all the Egyptian people at that time? Are we 100% sure that Sub Saharan African influence was not present?

Kamal900
02-08-2018, 02:00 AM
How do we really know that there was no SSA in all the Egyptian people at that time? Are we 100% sure that Sub Saharan African influence was not present?

They had SSA admixture, but they weren't Blacks whatsoever. The ancient Egyptians were less SSA admixed than their modern day counterparts.

JohnSmith
02-08-2018, 02:02 AM
They had SSA admixture, but they weren't Blacks whatsoever. The ancient Egyptians were less SSA admixed than their modern day counterparts.

Honestly, we really just do not know for sure what they are. They can take DNA from a mummy I suppose but that is such a limited sample group.

There is so much we really just do not know.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-08-2018, 02:24 AM
He said they were curly haired. Actual studies of Dynastic mummy hair finds it to be mostly Caucasian.Horners also have curly hair. But its lacking in arabs

Smeagol
02-08-2018, 02:31 AM
Horners also have curly hair. But its lacking in arabs

Most Horners are wooly haired. Curly hair is common in Arabs. It's a stereotypical Semitic trait.

Kamal900
02-08-2018, 02:35 AM
Horners also have curly hair. But its lacking in arabs

Really? Me and my brothers have curly hair, and we're Levantine Arabs:
http://image.ibb.co/iZgxkw/Untitled3.jpg
http://image.ibb.co/gB6dTw/IMG_20170928_WA0001.jpg

Horners have nappy/woolly hair, not curly.

JohnSmith
02-08-2018, 02:36 AM
Curly hair can occur anywhere. Even in Ireland you will find it.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-08-2018, 02:38 AM
Really? Me and my brothers have curly hair, and we're Levantine Arabs:
http://image.iw/Untitlg
http://image.ibb.co1.jpg

Horners have nappy/woolly hair, not curly.They have curly nappy wooly and straight hair. While curly hair is rare among arabs
They overwhelmingly just have straight hair. Your family in particular has curly hair though

Kouros
02-08-2018, 02:39 AM
Rofl at the people ITT who have doubts that the Ancient Egyptians were Caucasoid. We're talking about the people who taught the Greeks science/math and how to sculpt. Does that sound like something Sub-saharan Africans are known for? They were basically modern day Egyptians with less SSA.

Kamal900
02-08-2018, 02:40 AM
They have curly nappy wooly and straight hair. While curly hair is rare among arabs

Horners are not purely negroids(they're in between Caucasoids and SSA), and most do have nappy/woolly hair rather than curly like many middle easterners do, especially among Arabs and North Africans.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-08-2018, 02:44 AM
Horners are not purely negroids(they're in between Caucasoids and SSA), and most do have nappy/woolly hair rather than curly like many middle easterners do, especially among Arabs and North Africans.We can keep talking about it but we are obviosuly going to disagree.

Mortimer
02-08-2018, 02:44 AM
Some white supremacists on this forum accused me of being an Afrocentrist who claims that ALL ancient Egyptians were Black. This is obviously false about me, as I NEVER claimed that ALL of them were Black. I only said that SOME, at least the ones I posted sculptures of, whose facial features look Negroid to me, were Black/Negroid pharaohs, BUT ONLY THOSE, not "all" pharaohs. I even said that many - if not most - of the pharaohs were Caucasoid. My only point is that SOME early pharaohs (who were very important pharaohs btw) were Black, but only some of them; again, I never claimed that ALL of the pharaohs were Black. Now, I want you guys to please give me your opinions on this biased Afrocentric article based on alleged "information" collected by pseudohistorian/pseudoscientist/pseudoscholar Cheik Anta Diop (perhaps the most famous Afrocentrist, the very creator of Afrocentrism) and I want tips on how to properly debunk his bogus claims:








P.S.: both */**NOTES were added by me, as they're way tooo ridiculous to be cited as sources... LOL!

NOW, TO ALL OF YOU GUYS, I WANT TO ASK FOR THIS FAVOUR: please debunk every single one of all the 11 claims (including the bonus of alleged "DNA evidence") because I don't know how to debunk them and I really need to know how to debunk ALL of them in order to publish better articles on the internet (not only on The Apricity but on any website, the internet in general).

Are you new member i dont know who you are? Are you black?

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
02-08-2018, 02:45 AM
Rofl at the people ITT who have doubts that the Ancient Egyptians were Caucasoid. We're talking about the people who taught the Greeks science/math and how to sculpt. Does that sound like something Sub-saharan Africans are known for? They were basically modern day Egyptians with less SSA.We get it. Egyptians and north africans are your daddies...

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 06:13 PM
Are you new member i dont know who you are? Are you black?

I'm a very old member of this FORVM but now with a new account. And I'll never reveal who I am. No, I'm not black.

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 06:22 PM
Whoever told you so, he was right, just look what crap you've posted and compare with what actual genetic study says about ancient egyptians.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ancient-egyptians-europeans-related-claims-a7763866.html

Idiot, the crap I posted on this thread was meant to be my criticism towards it; I don't support it. Read this thread again and you'll see it, otherwise you must have serious mental issues.

The Illyrian Warrior
02-08-2018, 06:30 PM
Idiot, the crap I posted on this thread was meant to be my criticism towards it; I don't support it. Read this thread again and you'll see it, otherwise you must have serious mental issues.

My bad than, I didn't read until the end.......Anyways whoever believes that crap someone should slap him with actual studies, esp. those afrotardists trolls.

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 06:31 PM
Edited.

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 06:32 PM
My bad

It's okay.:)


whoever believes that crap someone should slap him with actual studies, esp. those afrotardists trolls.

Yeah:D

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 06:35 PM
You're more of nordicist nigger with a huge inferiority complex.

1. Just because I acknowledge the FACT that modern Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greeks doesn't mean I'm a nordicist.
2. I'm only 1/16 or at max. 1/8 Black.
3. I don't feel inferior to anybody, let alone to you, bastard!

Carlito's Way
02-08-2018, 06:55 PM
Yes, L3 seems to be Eurasian.
Background: After three decades of mtDNA studies on human evolution the only incontrovertible main result is the African origin of all extant modern humans. In addition, a southern coastal route has been relentlessly imposed to explain the Eurasian colonization of these African pioneers. Based on the age of macrohaplogroup L3, from which all maternal Eurasian and the majority of African lineages originated, that out-of-Africa event has been dated around 60-70 kya. On the opposite side, we have proposed a northern route through Central Asia across the Levant for that expansion. Consistent with the fossil record, we have dated it around 125 kya. To help bridge differences between the molecular and fossil record ages, in this article we assess the possibility that mtDNA macrohaplogroup L3 matured in Eurasia and returned to Africa as basic L3 lineages around 70 kya.

Results: The coalescence ages of all Eurasian (M,N) and African L3 lineages, both around 71 kya, are not significantly different. The oldest M and N Eurasian clades are found in southeastern Asia instead near of Africa as expected by the southern route hypothesis. The split of the Y-chromosome composite DE haplogroup is very similar to the age of mtDNA L3. A Eurasian origin and back migration to Africa has been proposed for the African Y-chromosome haplogroup E. Inside Africa, frequency distributions of maternal L3 and paternal E lineages are positively correlated. This correlation is not fully explained by geographic or ethnic affinities. It seems better to be the result of a joint and global replacement of the old autochthonous male and female African lineages by the new Eurasian incomers.

Conclusions: These results are congruent with a model proposing an out-of-Africa of early anatomically modern humans around 125 kya. A return to Africa of Eurasian fully modern humans around 70 kya, and a second Eurasian global expansion by 60 kya. Climatic conditions and the presence of Neanderthals played key roles in these human movements.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/12/13/233502

The presence of the L haplogroup common in Africa was unexpected given the clustering of the Saudis with Europeans in the phylogenetic tree and suggests some recent African admixture. To examine this further, we performed formal tests for a history of admixture and found no evidence of African admixture in the Saudi after the split. Taken together, these analyses suggest that the L3 haplogroup found in the Saudi were present before the bottleneck 50,000 YBP. Given the TMRCA estimates for the L3 haplogroup of approximately 70,000 YBP and the timing of the Out-of-Africa split, these analyses suggest that L3 haplogroup arose in the Middle East with a subsequent back migration and expansion into Africa over the Horn-of-Africa during the lower sea levels found during the glacial period bottleneck.
http://www.ashg.org/2013meeting/abstracts/fulltext/f130122833.htm

L3 is african, there you go cunt
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/49/1800/1600/Migration%20Map.jpg

Carlito's Way
02-08-2018, 07:04 PM
So what? The people from that region have been racially distinct from SSA since PREHISTORY!

This region has always been mix with ssa way before the slave trade which in fact the ancient guanches of the canary islands came out with high levels of ssa as well

Obviously you being am inferior low iq sandal wearing triracial brazilian, this is high iq shit for u




I met one over here once. His skin was dark but his morphology had absolutely nothing to do with Negroid morphology.

You havent met shit nigga lol stop being stupid




Nowadays, after centuries of Arab/Islamic slave trade of blacks, yet 20-40% is still low because if you consider the large amount of blacks that the Arabs took from sub-Saharan Africa and traded as slaves in North Africa, then it's technically a miracle that they aren't 90% or even 100% SSA nowadays.

Yes just like there arent any who are 90-100% caucasoid as well
Amd 20-40% is a whole lot, maybe not for you since you are a brazilian and your people are around that same range and you domt wanna classify that as black but here in america, mexico, chile, europe, argentina, uruguay, central america, that is a whole lot of ssa




Cool story, bro. Most Moroccans are Muslims, and the few minority of non-Muslim ones are either Christians or religious Jews, so you show me a picture of people wearing devil shirts and you expect me to buy it... LOL!

What does their preference for music have anything to do with religion? you are a sandal wearing retarded as brazilian




So you just agreed with me and proved my point: that they lean more on the Euro side, as you just said in your own words. You should receive a Nobel Prize for your high level of self-contradiction.

Yes they lean more on the caucasoid side but they are not caucasoid but mix race who look part biracial and not completely caucasoid at all

You probably fit among them and you are mad being classified as black, sorry but in america youll be a black man

Carlito's Way
02-08-2018, 07:05 PM
You're deliberately choosing the north african pop with the most ssa. It's pretty obvious they're a MENA/med population.
Libyans
http://images3.imagebam.com/2c/5b/88/97ba1b181064110.jpg

http://images3.imagebam.com/c8/81/ba/9112ad181063861.jpg
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/gallery_image/public/libya-benghazi-10-2011-2-25.jpg?itok=GASS_Gq3
https://scottnelson.photoshelter.com/img/pixel.gif
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/story_main/public/libya-women-revolution-2011-9-2.jpg?itok=bgCPuwqs

All those still look mix with black, they dont look anything like a pure caucasoid

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 07:26 PM
This region has always been mix with ssa way before the slave trade which in fact the ancient guanches of the canary islands came out with high levels of ssa as well

Then tell me exactly why these Berbers look 100% Caucasian (note that I'm not saying they look 100% WHITE, I'm saying they look 100% CAUCASIAN):

https://www.tripinmorocco.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/berber-women-499x400.jpg
http://affinitymagazine.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/tumblr_meevq0AOqf1rlkjt0o1_500.jpg


Obviously you being am inferior low iq sandal wearing triracial brazilian, this is high iq shit for u

I wear sandals in informal occasions, sneakers in more-or-less-informal-to-formal occasions, and shoes in formal occasions, just like everybody here does. Do you think Brazilians go to weddings wearing sandals, you ignorant fool? We don't!


You havent met shit nigga lol stop being stupid

I have, whether you want to believe it or not. Don't you know how many international tourists go to Brazil every year, you little ignoramus?


Yes just like there arent any who are 90-100% caucasoid as well

You can say there are few, but saying they don't exist is ludicrous; you've never tested every single North African to know that.


Amd 20-40% is a whole lot, maybe not for you since you are a brazilian and your people are around that same range and you domt wanna classify that as black but here in america, mexico, chile, europe, argentina, uruguay, central america, that is a whole lot of ssa

I just couldn't care less.


What does their preference for music have anything to do with religion?

The people from that region as heavily religious, most are heavily religious Muslims and the rest are of heavily religious Christians and Jews, so they would never wear devil shirts even if they like listening to metal.


Yes they lean more on the caucasoid side but they are not caucasoid but mix race who look part biracial and not completely caucasoid at all

It really depends on each North African; in other words, it varies from North African to North African.


You probably fit among them and you are mad being classified as black, sorry but in america youll be a black man

I look just like Alessandro Nesta, so at max. I'd be classified as "Hispanic" in America at best. I know very well that Mexicans who are much darker than me are never called Black but Hispanic instead, so don't even TRY to fool me, moron!

Carlito's Way
02-08-2018, 08:47 PM
Then tell me exactly why these Berbers look 100% Caucasian (note that I'm not saying they look 100% WHITE, I'm saying they look 100% CAUCASIAN):

https://www.tripinmorocco.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/berber-women-499x400.jpg
http://affinitymagazine.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/tumblr_meevq0AOqf1rlkjt0o1_500.jpg

Yeah the same reason why there are african americans who can pass for white dumbass, the average doesnt look anything like that and there are berber results on youtube, they still come out with more than 10% ssa





I wear sandals in informal occasions, sneakers in more-or-less-informal-to-formal occasions, and shoes in formal occasions, just like everybody here does. Do you think Brazilians go to weddings wearing sandals, you ignorant fool? We don't!

Of course you wear sandals lol ive been to brazil, your people always wear sandals for all occasion, from parties to being at home to going to the store etc, its the sandal country of the world




I have, whether you want to believe it or not. Don't you know how many international tourists go to Brazil every year, you little ignoramus?

Brazil is one of the least visited nations in the world, your country doesnt even make it into the top 20 most visited nations of the world so cut your bullshit already biotch




You can say there are few, but saying they don't exist is ludicrous; you've never tested every single North African to know that.

Exactly, just like you havent either so saying there are no pure blacks in northern africa is retarded dont you think? Lol




The people from that region as heavily religious, most are heavily religious Muslims and the rest are of heavily religious Christians and Jews, so they would never wear devil shirts even if they like listening to metal.

Your music preference and religion will not change your apparance dumbass, therefore you bringing that up is irrelevant to what we are speaking about which is genotype and phenotype




It really depends on each North African; in other words, it varies from North African to North African.


Nope



I look just like Alessandro Nesta, so at max. I'd be classified as "Hispanic" in America at best. I know very well that Mexicans who are much darker than me are never called Black but Hispanic instead, so don't even TRY to fool me, moron!

Alessandro Nesta is extremely woggy, im sure you look more mix than that with more ssa features, so dont try to fool me

Its not about skin color dumbass
Its about features moron, you probably look blacker than what you are trying to protray yourself as

Sasuke
02-08-2018, 09:40 PM
Yeah the same reason why there are african americans who can pass for white dumbass, the average doesnt look anything like that and there are berber results on youtube, they still come out with more than 10% ssa

I don't even care LOL


Of course you wear sandals lol ive been to brazil, your people always wear sandals for all occasion, from parties to being at home to going to the store etc, its the sandal country of the world

It really depends on which type of party. All of my fellow Brazilians whom I know wear shoes for formal parties, of course. But informal parties are just informal, so we just wear sandals. Anyway, you're an ethnocentric bigot who hates my people for no damn reason LOL. Were you robbed here in Brazil? It's the Brazilian robber's fault exclusively, NOT the entire Brazilian people's fault, so stop being a complexed bigot and stop generalizing other peoples.


Brazil is one of the least visited nations in the world, your country doesnt even make it into the top 20 most visited nations of the world so cut your bullshit already biotch

It doesn't change the fact that I always see tourists on the streets.


Exactly, just like you havent either so saying there are no pure blacks in northern africa is retarded dont you think? Lol

I never said "there are NO pure blacks in northern Africa", all I said was that most people in that region are morphologically Caucasoid.


Your music preference and religion will not change your apparance dumbass, therefore you bringing that up is irrelevant to what we are speaking about which is genotype and phenotype

Oh sure a heavy and strict follower of an Abrahamic religion will certainly see "no problem" in wearing DEVIL shirts... RIGHT!


Alessandro Nesta is extremely woggy, im sure you look more mix than that with more ssa features, so dont try to fool me
Its not about skin color dumbass
Its about features moron, you probably look blacker than what you are trying to protray yourself as

As you've been to Brazil, you must know that millions of Brazilians look just like the average Southern Europeans; unless the only region you visited was the Northeastern Region, then I guess you didn't see many white people there; but if you visited the Southeastern and mainly the Southern Region I'm sure you saw LOTS of locals who look European, so stop trolling. You wish every single Brazilian person with a small percentage of SSA would look like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, but guess what: that's not always the case, so stop being a troll trying to endarken the Brazilians of predominantly European stock.