What race are the Dravidians?

[Voskos]

Discuss.

[Kamal900]

It all depends on the caste, but they're more austroloids AKA veddoids than their northern Indian counterparts genetically. Upper caste Dravidians are more closer to west and central Asia genetically than their lower caste counterparts.

[Smeagol]

Caucasoid-Australoid mix, not really a mystery.

[Bobby Martnen]

South Asian.

[MercifulServant]

Australoid

[Jana]

Caucasoid primarly (historically). Weddoid strain is from pre-dravidian local population of the subcontinent.

[Megadorian]

They compose an independent subgroup in the global human diversity

[Bosniensis]

Dravidian

[LoLeL]

Originally Caucasoid

[Pahli]

Mixed, but mostly Caucasoid

[Abdelnour]

The original Dravidian were a Iraniac like people. Once they mixed the natives, they have some Australoid admixiture.

[Thambi]

This probably has been answered before but is ASI/ASE necessarily australoid? Its just a native indian component that's highest in S.Indian tribals and spread to an extent in south east asia, but idk if it should be labeled 'australoid'.

[Leto]

They are not pred. Caucasoid. Almost black-skinned Indians are definitely more Australoid than Caucasoid.

[Mingle]

Same as Indo-Aryans, Caucasoid. Dravidian is just a language group, not a racial thing.

[Mingle]

This probably has been answered before but is ASI/ASE necessarily australoid? Its just a native indian component that's highest in S.Indian tribals and spread to an extent in south east asia, but idk if it should be labeled 'australoid'.

It's probably Negrito.

[Thambi]

It's probably Negrito.

makes sense. But negritos aren't australoid either if im not wrong. I'm just confused as to what covers australoid.

[Thambi]

They are not pred. Caucasoid. Almost black-skinned Indians are definitely more Australoid than Caucasoid.

nope.. Black skin is prevalent all across india and parts of pakistan as well. They might be SLIGHTLY less caucasian/more ASI influenced than upper castes but they are definitely not more ASI than caucasoid..

[Mingle]

makes sense. But negritos aren't australoid either if im not wrong. I'm just confused as to what covers australoid.

I don't know if it is covered under Australoid, but probably not since Andamanese and Aeta people look very different from Aussie aboriginals. ASE/ASI is Negrito regardless. Btw, ASI in most calculators is a misnomer. The ASI in the ASI K9 calc is meant to be actual ASI, but in other calcs, it's a mixed component that likely contains large amounts of ANE, Gedrosia, and maybe some Southeast Asian as well.

[Mingle]

nope.. Black skin is prevalent all across india and parts of pakistan as well. They might be SLIGHTLY less caucasian/more ASI influenced than upper castes but they are definitely not more ASI than caucasoid..

Even the blackest tribals are more West Eurasian than ASI. But thinking about it, they may not qualify as Caucasoid since Caucasoid is a phenotypic term rather than a genetic term.

[Tauromachos]

Australoid

Nope

[Leto]

I'm sorry, but these people do not look West Eurasian. They are not my race
http://www.innercitypress.com/idps1tamil.jpg

[Tauromachos]

Caucasoid primarly (historically). Weddoid strain is from pre-dravidian local population of the subcontinent.

I think Weddoids are different from Dravidians.


Dravidians are predominantly dark skinned Caucasoids of Indian whereas the so called Indo Aryans are significantly lighter and look"comparitivly" more
European.

Indo Aryan types

Hadiqa Khani"Pakistani singer"
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Hadiqa_Kiani_Pakistani_Singer.jpg/220px-Hadiqa_Kiani_Pakistani_Singer.jpghttps://i.dawn.com/large/2017/02/58a3c502790ad.jpg


Also the notion that Indo Aryans and Dravidians never mixed and are totally separated is wrong.

As almost every Indian ,no matter from which group has at least one Dravidian and one Aryan ancestor.

Most Indians have also some ancestry from Veddoid and Australoid people in Southern India.
Mainly Indians in the South and much less so in the North.

But Veddoid and Australoid itself is not Dravidian.

I think this video explains it fairly well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc2Qcca8xkE

[Jana]

^^^^I agree

[Jana]

I'm sorry, but these people do not West Eurasian. They are not my race
http://www.innercitypress.com/idps1tamil.jpg

They are modern Indians. We had more original Dravidians in mind. They were pred. gracile Indid, which caucasoid phenotype.
India wasn't uninhabited before Dravidians came.....and people who lived there before them is source of negrito like/weddoid features :)

[Mingle]

I'm sorry, but these people do not West Eurasian. They are not my race
http://www.innercitypress.com/idps1tamil.jpg

Their DNA is more West Eurasian than ASI, but they're very mixed. I guess they're too mixed to be called Caucasoid though.

[Leto]

They are modern Indians. We had more original Dravidians in mind. They were pred. gracile Indid, which caucasoid phenotype.
India wasn't uninhabited before Dravidians came.....and people who lived there before them is source of negrito like/weddoid features :)
I used to think the original Indians were Dravidian.

[Leto]

Their DNA is more West Eurasian than ASI, but they're very mixed. I guess they're too mixed to be called Caucasoid though.
Well, that makes sense. Kazakhs are over 1/3 West Eurasian, but who would call them Caucasoid? How much Caucasoid are Southern Indians? 50% or more?

[Mingle]

Well, that makes sense. Kazakhs are over 1/3 West Eurasian, but who would call them Caucasoid? How much Caucasoid are Southern Indians? 50% or more?

Southern Indians are over 50% West Eurasian, but they are more West Eurasian than North Indian dalits. Dalits as a whole, regardless of if they live in the north or south, are the least West Eurasian. I think dalits (the least West Eurasian Indian people) are around 60-70% West Eurasian. But keep in mind that someone that is 60-70% European and 30-40% Black won't look Caucasoid, so similar case here.

[Leto]

Southern Indians are over 50% West Eurasian, but they are more West Eurasian than North Indian dalits. Dalits as a whole, regardless of if they live in the north or south, are the least West Eurasian. I think dalits (the least West Eurasian Indian people) are around 60-70% West Eurasian. But keep in mind that someone that is 60-70% European and 30-40% Black won't look Caucasoid, so similar case here.
Fair enough. I think there might as well have been some kind of climate adaptation in Southern India. We're talking about thousands of years in the hot climate.

[Leto]

But keep in mind that someone that is 60-70% European and 30-40% Black won't look Caucasoid, so similar case here.
Half Torres Strait Islander half white
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/09/13/32075D9400000578-3483915-image-a-21_1457531849281.jpg
They look as dark as many Indians and Pakis.

[Thambi]

Southern Indians are over 50% West Eurasian, but they are more West Eurasian than North Indian dalits. Dalits as a whole, regardless of if they live in the north or south, are the least West Eurasian. I think dalits (the least West Eurasian Indian people) are around 60-70% West Eurasian. But keep in mind that someone that is 60-70% European and 30-40% Black won't look Caucasoid, so similar case here.

no bro. Dalits aren't that west eurasian. On K9 ASI I get 20% ASI and 14% SE asian some siberian, which most likely is part of ASI/ASE.. So roughly about 35% east eurasian on K9...

On eurasia K3 I get 56% west eurasian and 42% east eurasian with 2% african. I think dalits are around 50-55% west eurasian and 45-50% east eurasian. Roughly half.

Regarding phenotype, I think indians look predominantly caucasoid.. even those tamil people that Leto posted look caucasoid to me. I guess not similar to aryan or semitic type white, but they do have caucasoid bone structure, brow ridge and facial features in a slight mixed form.

[Mingle]

no bro. Dalits aren't that west eurasian. On K9 ASI I get 20% ASI and 14% SE asian some siberian, which most likely is part of ASI/ASE.. So roughly about 35% east eurasian on K9...

On eurasia K3 I get 56% west eurasian and 42% east eurasian with 2% african. I think dalits are around 50-55% west eurasian and 45-50% east eurasian. Roughly half.

Regarding phenotype, I think indians look predominantly caucasoid.. even those tamil people that Leto posted look caucasoid to me. I guess not similar to aryan or semitic type white, but they do have caucasoid bone structure, brow ridge and facial features in a slight mixed form.

What do dalits get on K9?

[Robocop]

Australoid+Caucasoid hybrid.

[Leto]

From the Dodecad K12b spreadsheet:

Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste

33.33% Gedrosia
1.40% Southeast_Asian
61.66% South_Asian
2.00% Southwest_Asian
0.20% East_Asian
1.40% Caucasus

[Mingle]

From the Dodecad K12b spreadsheet:

Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste

33.33% Gedrosia
1.40% Southeast_Asian
61.66% South_Asian
2.00% Southwest_Asian
0.20% East_Asian
1.40% Caucasus

South Asian is VERY mixed. The closest thing to determining how much ASI they had is K9 ASI. I don't think a single Indian would ever get 50% in that. It's a somewhat flawed calc since the ASI component still hasn't been discovered and the proxies are just placeholders till something accurate comes.

[Thambi]

there are no dalit castes on the k9 speadshets and i have no dalit gedmatch kit numbers either.. they only have the regular regional ones and tribals.

Pulliyars (tribal)
43%- ASI
16%-SE asian
41% CHG

Bengalis(they have the highest ASI besides the tribals, atleast on the spreadsheet)
22%- ASI
23%- SE asian
55%- CHG, EHG

I think the dalits will be about 50 west/50 east tbh with ASI probably at 25-35% depending on the region, how low the caste, etc..

[Leto]

Sindhi for comparison:

50.90% Gedrosia
0.30% Siberian
2.50% Atlantic_Med
6.00% North_European
31.40% South_Asian
3.40% Southwest_Asian
0.70% East_Asian
4.80% Caucasus

Location of the Sindh province in Pakistan:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Sindh_in_Pakistan_%28claims_hatched%29.svg/601px-Sindh_in_Pakistan_%28claims_hatched%29.svg.png

[Leto]

South Asian is VERY mixed. The closest thing to determining how much ASI they had is K9 ASI. I don't think a single Indian would ever get 50% in that. It's a somewhat flawed calc since the ASI component still hasn't been discovered and the proxies are just placeholders till something accurate comes.
It is very mixed but not on this one. Here it's pretty much filtered.

[Mingle]

there are no dalit castes on the k9 speadshets and i have no dalit gedmatch kit numbers either.. they only have the regular regional ones and tribals.

Pulliyars (tribal)
43%- ASI
16%-SE asian
41% CHG

Bengalis(they have the highest ASI besides the tribals)
22%- ASI
23%- SE asian
55%- CHG, EHG

I think the dalits will be about 50 west/50 east tbh with ASI probably at 25-35% depending on the region, how low the caste, etc..

Tribals would probably be the same as dalits, so same thing :) So it seems that the Indians with the highest ASI don't reach 50% as I suspected. But it's still very high. How much do you get on that calc?

[Mingle]

It is very mixed but not on this one. Here it's pretty much filtered.

I doubt it could be that filtered. But anyways, which calc is that?

[Leto]

I doubt it could be that filtered. But anyways, which calc is that?
It's Dodecad K12b and I remember you're 20% South Asian on it.

[Mingle]

It's Dodecad K12b and I remember you're 20% South Asian on it.

Yeah, 20.77%, which is similar to my Harappa score. It's good that it separates Gedrosia & Caucasus so it's likely one of the better ones but I still think it overestimates true South Asian a bit, but not sure how much (likely around 5-10%) whereas K9 ASI probably underestimates it a bit.

[Leto]

Yeah, 20.77%, which is similar to my Harappa score. It's good that it separates Gedrosia & Caucasus so it's likely one of the better ones but I still think it overestimates true South Asian a bit, but not sure how much.
I decided to measure South Asianness by using those two calcs - K12b and Harappa. Not perfect but more or less close to the truth, unlike Eurogenes.

[Thambi]

Tribals would probably be the same as dalits, so same thing :) So it seems that the Indians with the highest ASI don't reach 50% as I suspected. But it's still very high. How much do you get on that calc?

These are my results for K9 ASI

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 54.73
2 Ancestral_South_Indian 20.86
3 SE_Asian 14.26
4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 3.99
5 Early_Neolithic_Farmers 2.14
6 SW_Asian 1.44
7 W_African 1.3
8 Siberian_E_Asian 1.28

actually the tribals and dalits are different. Dalits are scheduled castes, or low castes/untouchables. They are the dalits that are still an integral part of the society and part of the caste system. Population wise they make up about 20% of indian population. The tribals, such as paniya, pulliyar, austroasiatic ho are just small communities in forests known and they are known as adivasis or Scheduled Tribes. These are not part of caste system, neither are they untouchables. They are just tribals.

Dalits genetically vary quite a bit. Dalits can be very close to tribals in their makeup, but very close to mid castes as well

for example

harappa

Madiga(South indian low caste)
S.Indian -70%
baloch-24%

kurmi(north indian low caste) - this caste has the same south indian as I do even though I'm mid caste South indian
S.Indian-53%
baloch-36%
NE euro-3%

meghawal(north indian low caste)
S.Indian-45%
baloch-37%
NE euro-6%

tamil nadu scheduled caste(South)
S.Indian-59%
baloch-32%

Uttar pradesh scheduled caste(North)
S.Indian-59%
baloch-30%
NE euro-4%

tamil dalit
S.Indian-73%
baloch-21%

paniya(tribal and the highest S.Indian in the world)
S.Indian-84%
baloch-3%

so dalits do vary a lot with low 45% in certain north indian low castes to 73% in s.indian low castes approaching the tribals and paniya with the highest among the tribals at 84%

[Hadouken]

Thambi what exactly is a "Tamil Goumder" ? I have a kit nr of such a person xD

[Thambi]

Thambi what exactly is a "Tamil Goumder" ? I have a kit nr of such a person xD

Gounders are a midcaste population in tamil nadu bro. They usually include the subgroups such as vellalars and vellalars are quite diverse imo. They range from 50%-60% S.Indian on harappa. can I see his results/kit number? Thanks.

[LoLeL]

I'm sorry, but these people do not look West Eurasian. They are not my race
http://www.innercitypress.com/idps1tamil.jpg

What about these "West Eurasians"? Are they your race?
https://www.christiansinpakistan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/christians-in-pakistan-saudi-men.jpg

[Seya]

nope.. Black skin is prevalent all across india and parts of pakistan as well. They might be SLIGHTLY less caucasian/more ASI influenced than upper castes but they are definitely not more ASI than caucasoid..

i don't see this people very caucasoid...actually they look a lot closer to australoids then andamese
https://www.indianspice.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/southindian.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9b5e11701ce10856533f0706d1019c5f-c
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b86c394ec12f0885fd281df7fb5c4c54-c

[Hadouken]

Gounders are a midcaste population in tamil nadu bro. They usually include the subgroups such as vellalars and vellalars are quite diverse imo. They range from 50%-60% S.Indian on harappa. can I see his results/kit number? Thanks.

ah ok . I remember actually that another member said they are midcaste something but I dont understand much . thanks for explaining

Yes I will post them later. I am on phone and watching king of queens in the living room right now lmao

list the calcs you would like to see now already

[Thambi]

ah ok . I remember actually that another member said they are midcaste something but I dont understand much . thanks for explaining

Yes I will post them later. I am on phone and watching king of queens in the living room right now lmao

list the calcs you would like to see now already

haha yeah caste system in india is strange enough for me, I can only imagine what non south asians might think lol

amazing show bro. have fun :)

I would like to see harappa, K9 ASI, Ancient eurasia K6, eurasia K3, and dodecad k12b..

[Thambi]

i don't see this people very caucasoid...actually they look a lot closer to australoids then andamese
https://www.indianspice.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/southindian.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9b5e11701ce10856533f0706d1019c5f-c
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b86c394ec12f0885fd281df7fb5c4c54-c

They still look closer to caucasoids than australoids imo. australoids have proganthism (large jaw), very wide noses, and the brow ridge being very prominent. most south indians have gracile/softer features and thinner noses. I mean they obviously dont look like white people lol but bone structure wise I think they look predominantly caucasoid.

[Leto]

What about these "West Eurasians"? Are they your race?
https://www.christiansinpakistan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/christians-in-pakistan-saudi-men.jpg
They are part non-Caucasoid as well, however they may be closer, yes. Anyway, the Caucasoid race seems to be a pretty broad category, of course I don't have anything in common with those people, neither looks, nor culture.

[Leto]

These are two actual Caucasoids, the one is Lebanese (Levantine), the other is French (Western European):
https://gdb.voanews.com/91EADC3A-8E88-4595-9AF4-A517864E174A_w1023_r1_s.jpg

[Demon Revival]

With the discovery of ANE, Veddoid components and multiple other layers, one can safely assert the Caucasoid concept has been rendered invalid.

[Zanzibar]

Southern Indians are over 50% West Eurasian, but they are more West Eurasian than North Indian dalits. Dalits as a whole, regardless of if they live in the north or south, are the least West Eurasian. I think dalits (the least West Eurasian Indian people) are around 60-70% West Eurasian. But keep in mind that someone that is 60-70% European and 30-40% Black won't look Caucasoid, so similar case here.

Interesting.

Actually the least Western Eurasian among Indians would be the Negroid/African looking Andamanese (who virtually have none Western blood) and Austroasiatic tribals like Bonda, Kharia, Munda although they also have significant East Asian ancestry unlike most South Asians.

[Zanzibar]

With the discovery of ANE, Veddoid components and multiple other layers, one can safely assert the Caucasoid concept has been rendered invalid.

Haha especially when ANE is the founding father who busted the nut and spawn almost every race in Eurasia except Peapuans and Eastern Asians (most of them).

[Demon Revival]

Interesting.

Actually the least Western Eurasian among Indians would be the Negroid/African looking Andamanese (who virtually have none Western blood) and Austroasiatic tribals like Bonda, Kharia, Munda although they also have significant East Asian ancestry unlike most South Asians.

I think their results in the other test are still accurate in poportion to their West and East Eurasian heritage. Basically, the results we were discussing in the other thread should be viewed as say, 100% of their 40-50% eurasian heritage.

Their non-aboriginal heritage is a mix of West and East Erasian components.


Haha especially when ANE is the founding father who busted the nut and spawn almost every race in Eurasia except Peapuans and Eastern Asians (most of them).

You are forgetting North Africans. Those thoroughly lack ANE admix too. Japanese for example have more ANE than Moroccans.

[Tauromachos]

The original Dravidian were a Iraniac like people. Once they mixed the natives, they have some Australoid admixiture.

One theory says they were Neolithic Farmers from the Zagros Mountains in Iran

[Zanzibar]

I think their results in the other test are still accurate in poportion to their West and East Eurasian heritage. Basically, the results we were discussing in the other thread should be viewed as say, 100% of their 40-50% eurasian heritage.

Their non-aboriginal heritage is a mix of West and East Erasian components.



You are forgetting North Africans. Those thoroughly lack ANE admix too. Japanese for example have more ANE than Moroccans.

Oh yes definitely. North Africans are another Eurasian majority race that lack ANE as well. We can also count Caucasoid looking Horn Africans like Habeshas, Somalis, as they don't have ANE even though they are only 40 to 50 or 60% Eurasian genetically.

The ANE in Japanese might have to do with some ENA admix in ANE rather than actual ANE in Japanese. I read from a study somewhere on Eurogenes that ANE can be up to 1/4 Eastern Eurasian admix (don't know which type of ENA) but if that's the case then all ppl that have ANE like South Asians and Western Eurasians will have some extra East Eurasian as well.

[Leto]

I think it is still valid. The thing is that if you mix two Caucasoids, the child won't look mixed race, but if you mix a Caucasoid with a Negroid or a Mondoloid, he/she will look mixed race. Intra-Caucasoid mixes look usually either European/white or Middle Eastern.

Eurasian, Korean/white
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/9th+Annual+BritWeek+Red+Carpet+Launch+Red+jY6oaeyd hBrl.jpg

Mulatto, Ghanaian/white
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/BorisKodjoeDec10.jpg/453px-BorisKodjoeDec10.jpg

Mixed Caucasoid, Syrian/German
http://media3.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/4093141811/1.5057527/width610x580/aiman-mazyek-ist-der.jpg

[Demon Revival]

^Circular logic there.

[Demon Revival]

^Circular logic there.

Think it like this: there's 5 components. A, B, C, X,

Individual one is 40% A, 40% B, 20% C
Individual two is 60% A, 15% B, 20% C, 5% X
Individual three is 50% A, 2% B and 48% C
Individual four is 50% A, 30% B, 1% C and 19% X

Which ones are mixed or not, if all are mixed from the base?

[Vigilance]

These are two actual Caucasoids, the one is Lebanese (Levantine), the other is French (Western European):
https://gdb.voanews.com/91EADC3A-8E88-4595-9AF4-A517864E174A_w1023_r1_s.jpg

the "French man" looks off-White

[Hadouken]

haha yeah caste system in india is strange enough for me, I can only imagine what non south asians might think lol

amazing show bro. have fun :)

I would like to see harappa, K9 ASI, Ancient eurasia K6, eurasia K3, and dodecad k12b..

here the results : tell me if they make sense . I dont know the person or anything . I just took the kit nr. from a post of a guy where he claims that this person is a tamil gounder.

HarappaWorld


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 68.57
2 Baloch 25.63
3 NE-Asian 2.63
4 SE-Asian 1.08
5 Papuan 0.97
6 Siberian 0.43
7 Caucasian 0.43
8 E-African 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 sakilli (chaubey) 2.17
2 tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) 2.3
3 madiga (reich) 2.56
4 ap-madiga (xing) 2.78
5 chamar (metspalu) 3.2
6 kamsali (reich) 3.36
7 bhil (reich) 3.75
8 hakkipikki (metspalu) 5.25
9 chenchu (metspalu) 5.5
10 tn-dalit (xing) 5.66
11 north-kannadi (chaubey) 5.73
12 kurumba (reich) 6.29
13 ap-mala (xing) 6.46
14 mala (reich) 6.54
15 vysya (reich) 7.14
16 hallaki (reich) 7.27
17 piramalai-kallar (metspalu) 7.31
18 singapore-indian-a (sgvp) 7.68
19 kol (metspalu) 8.22
20 naidu (reich) 8.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.6% ap-madiga (xing) + 24.4% vysya (reich) @ 1.64
2 60.2% madiga (reich) + 39.8% kamsali (reich) @ 1.69
3 85.8% madiga (reich) + 14.2% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.74
4 90% madiga (reich) + 10% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 1.76
5 90% ap-madiga (xing) + 10% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 1.77
6 59.5% sakilli (chaubey) + 40.5% madiga (reich) @ 1.77
7 78.9% madiga (reich) + 21.1% vysya (reich) @ 1.78
8 73.9% madiga (reich) + 26.1% chenchu (metspalu) @ 1.79
9 80.5% madiga (reich) + 19.5% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 1.81
10 79.6% madiga (reich) + 20.4% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 1.81
11 95.6% madiga (reich) + 4.4% nepalese-c (xing) @ 1.82
12 89.3% madiga (reich) + 10.7% velama (metspalu) @ 1.82
13 91.5% madiga (reich) + 8.5% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 1.83
14 64% sakilli (chaubey) + 36% ap-madiga (xing) @ 1.83
15 91.7% madiga (reich) + 8.3% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 1.83
16 83% madiga (reich) + 17% naidu (reich) @ 1.83
17 92.7% madiga (reich) + 7.3% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 1.85
18 83.8% madiga (reich) + 16.2% kurumba (metspalu) @ 1.86
19 82% madiga (reich) + 18% kol (metspalu) @ 1.86
20 84.8% madiga (reich) + 15.2% dusadh (metspalu) @ 1.87

--

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kamsali_reich +50% madiga_reich @ 1.828901


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% ap-madiga_xing +25% madiga_reich +25% vysya_reich @ 1.591034


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + vysya_reich @ 1.591034
2 ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + vysya_reich @ 1.658748
3 ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.661673
4 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.673029
5 ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.687306
6 madiga_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.695064
7 madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.738316
8 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.741357
9 ap-madiga_xing + kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.770771
10 ap-madiga_xing + kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.774296
11 ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.784175
12 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.795530
13 ap-madiga_xing + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.795765
14 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.801649
15 madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey + sakilli_chaubey + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.809546
16 ap-mala_xing + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.820518
17 kamsali_reich + kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + madiga_reich @ 1.828901
18 ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.834674
19 chenchu_metspalu + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.846555
20 chenchu_metspalu + madiga_reich + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.848180




Eurasia K9 ASI


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 49.21
2 Ancestral_South_Indian 24.35
3 SE_Asian 19.8
4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 3.44
5 W_African 1.92
6 SW_Asian 0.79
7 Siberian_E_Asian 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bengali 4.69
2 Burusho 18.89
3 Paniyas 19.95
4 Punjabi 20.2
5 Pathan 23.31
6 Puliyar 23.9
7 Ho 26.01
8 Kharia 27.13
9 Kurd_SE 27.25
10 Pashtun_Afghan 27.35
11 Tajik_Afghan 27.99
12 Kalash 28.45
13 Brahui 29.01
14 Balochi 29.03
15 Uzbek_Afghan 29.71
16 Makrani 30.88
17 Hazara_Afghan 31.98
18 Tajik_Pomiri 33.56
19 Papuan 33.61
20 Ust_Ishim 33.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Bengali + 11.4% Puliyar @ 3.56
2 89.4% Bengali + 10.6% Paniyas @ 4.08
3 98.2% Bengali + 1.8% MOTA @ 4.3
4 98.5% Bengali + 1.5% Esan @ 4.31
5 98.5% Bengali + 1.5% Yoruba @ 4.31
6 97.1% Bengali + 2.9% Great_Andamanese @ 4.35
7 98.3% Bengali + 1.7% Masai @ 4.37
8 95.1% Bengali + 4.9% Brahui @ 4.45
9 95.5% Bengali + 4.5% Makrani @ 4.46
10 93.3% Bengali + 6.7% Punjabi @ 4.47
11 95.3% Bengali + 4.7% Balochi @ 4.47
12 95.9% Bengali + 4.1% Kalash @ 4.53
13 95.4% Bengali + 4.6% Pathan @ 4.56
14 98.7% Bengali + 1.3% SATSURBILA @ 4.62
15 98% Bengali + 2% Ust_Ishim @ 4.63
16 98.9% Bengali + 1.1% Yemen @ 4.63
17 98.3% Bengali + 1.7% Papuan @ 4.65
18 98.2% Bengali + 1.8% Pashtun_Afghan @ 4.66
19 98.9% Bengali + 1.1% Iranian @ 4.66
20 99.3% Bengali + 0.7% BedouinA @ 4.66

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bengali +50% Bengali @ 4.431327


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bengali +25% Paniyas +25% Punjabi @ 3.271967


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas + Punjabi @ 3.271967
2 Bengali + Paniyas + Papuan + SATSURBILA @ 3.592223
3 Bengali + Bengali + Burusho + Paniyas @ 3.694828
4 Bengali + Bengali + Burusho + Puliyar @ 3.819503
5 Bengali + Bengali + Brahui + Paniyas @ 4.002330
6 Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas + Pathan @ 4.006244
7 Bengali + Bengali + Kurd_SE + Paniyas @ 4.138558
8 Bengali + Bengali + Puliyar + Punjabi @ 4.223747
9 Balochi + Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas @ 4.282189
10 Burusho + Great_Andamanese + Kharia + SATSURBILA @ 4.311377
11 Papuan + Papuan + Punjabi + SATSURBILA @ 4.366594
12 Bengali + Bengali + Bengali + Bengali @ 4.431327
13 Great_Andamanese + Kharia + Kurd_SE + SATSURBILA @ 4.547910
14 Bengali + Papuan + Puliyar + SATSURBILA @ 4.572278
15 Bengali + Bengali + Kurd_SE + Puliyar @ 4.578841
16 Bengali + Bengali + Makrani + Paniyas @ 4.594162
17 Bengali + Ho + Papuan + SATSURBILA @ 4.603512
18 Bengali + Papuan + Papuan + SATSURBILA @ 4.629614
19 Ho + Puliyar + SATSURBILA + Ust_Ishim @ 4.672438
20 Kharia + Puliyar + SATSURBILA + Ust_Ishim @ 4.687671



Ancient Eurasia K6



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 33.23
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 31.41
3 East_Asian 18.32
4 Natufian 16.54
5 Sub_Saharan 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bengali 4.59
2 Punjabi_PJL 11.55
3 Palliyar 11.6
4 GujaratiD 13.08
5 GujaratiC 15.78
6 Paniyas 17.45
7 GujaratiB 20.01
8 Burusho 21.53
9 GujaratiA 22.41
10 Kharia 23.31
11 Punjabi 23.54
12 Sindhi 25.88
13 Pathan 28.12
14 Kalash 29.16
15 Pashtun_Afghan 29.7
16 Tajik 32.71
17 Kurd_SE 33.61
18 Balochi 34.8
19 Brahui 35.49
20 Turkmen 36.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.8% Bengali + 28.2% Palliyar @ 0.64
2 66.9% Punjabi_PJL + 33.1% Kharia @ 0.75
3 79.4% Bengali + 20.6% Paniyas @ 0.75
4 64.1% GujaratiD + 35.9% Kharia @ 1.26
5 94.5% Bengali + 5.5% Papuan @ 1.35
6 94.5% Bengali + 5.5% Andamanese @ 1.35
7 94.5% Bengali + 5.5% Australian @ 1.35
8 93.5% Bengali + 6.5% Onge @ 1.44
9 59.7% GujaratiC + 40.3% Kharia @ 1.66
10 65.2% Palliyar + 34.8% Burusho @ 1.85
11 55.3% Paniyas + 44.7% Burusho @ 2.18
12 53.9% GujaratiB + 46.1% Kharia @ 3.64
13 89.5% Bengali + 10.5% Kharia @ 3.71
14 73% Palliyar + 27% Pashtun_Afghan @ 4.02
15 75.5% Palliyar + 24.5% Kurd_SE @ 4.1
16 68.1% Palliyar + 31.9% Punjabi @ 4.14
17 72% Palliyar + 28% Pathan @ 4.23
18 64.5% Palliyar + 35.5% GujaratiB @ 4.32
19 72.9% Palliyar + 27.1% Kalash @ 4.42
20 51% GujaratiA + 49% Kharia @ 4.48

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +50% Paniyas @ 3.049908


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bengali +25% Bengali +25% Palliyar @ 0.806784


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 GujaratiB + Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi_PJL @ 0.555983
2 GujaratiB + GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar @ 0.612652
3 Bengali + Bengali + Bengali + Palliyar @ 0.806784
4 GujaratiD + Kharia + Paniyas + Punjabi @ 1.114525
5 GujaratiB + GujaratiB + Kharia + Paniyas @ 1.152326
6 Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi + Punjabi_PJL @ 1.189786
7 Bengali + Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas @ 1.224892
8 GujaratiB + GujaratiC + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.263203
9 Kharia + Paniyas + Punjabi + Punjabi_PJL @ 1.317761
10 Bengali + Burusho + Palliyar + Palliyar @ 1.375364
11 GujaratiA + Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi_PJL @ 1.394923
12 GujaratiB + GujaratiC + Kharia + Paniyas @ 1.433659
13 GujaratiC + GujaratiC + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.443441
14 GujaratiC + GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.463753
15 GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi @ 1.495448
16 GujaratiB + GujaratiD + Kharia + Paniyas @ 1.499008
17 Bengali + Burusho + Palliyar + Paniyas @ 1.500633
18 GujaratiC + Kharia + Paniyas + Punjabi @ 1.522874
19 GujaratiA + GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.542436
20 GujaratiD + Kharia + Paniyas + Sindhi @ 1.575155



Eurasia K3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Eurasian 51.19
2 W_Eurasian 45.19
3 SSA 3.61


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Madiga @ 0.000000
2 Hallkipiki @ 1.921550
3 Chenchu @ 2.144522
4 Mala @ 2.266515
5 Kamsali @ 4.034432
6 Irula @ 4.633638
7 UP_Chamar @ 4.687126
8 Bengali @ 5.284288
9 Bhil @ 6.749998
10 Tharu @ 6.869217
11 Kallar @ 6.955253
12 Piramalai @ 7.111300
13 Hazara @ 7.318689
14 Kattunayakkan @ 9.105972
15 Kurumba @ 10.013086
16 UP_Caste @ 10.668000
17 Uzbek @ 10.906064
18 Nihali @ 11.370765
19 UP_Kol @ 11.733235
20 Velama @ 13.227995

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Madiga +50% Madiga @ 0.000000
2 50% GujaratiD +50% Paniyas @ 0.372158
3 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Kurumba @ 0.554646
4 50% Lebanese +50% Ulchi @ 0.652137
5 50% Han +50% Lebanese @ 0.698300
6 50% Ami +50% Lebanese @ 0.709276
7 50% Lebanese +50% Nivkh @ 0.709276
8 50% Dai +50% Lebanese @ 0.709306
9 50% Makrani +50% Sherpa @ 0.826735
10 50% Kurumba +50% Nihali @ 0.916298
11 50% Bhumij +50% Vaish @ 1.020815
12 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Piramalai @ 1.033308
13 50% Irula +50% UP_Chamar @ 1.047759
14 50% Irula +50% Kamsali @ 1.054341
15 50% Kanjar +50% Paniyas @ 1.076851
16 50% Hallkipiki +50% Madiga @ 1.080878
17 50% Malli +50% Nihali @ 1.101340
18 50% Great_Andamanese +50% Turkmen @ 1.135385
19 50% Chenchu +50% Madiga @ 1.169216
20 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Tharu @ 1.193061


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Altaian +25% Irula +25% Palestinian @ 0.000000



Dodecad k12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 66.94
2 Gedrosia 27.24
3 Southeast_Asian 2.47
4 East_Asian 2.42
5 East_African 0.76
6 Siberian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kol (Metspalu) 3.85
2 Chenchus (Metspalu) 4.05
3 SAKILLI (Behar) 4.72
4 Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) 4.88
5 Dusadh (Metspalu) 5.37
6 Chamar (Metspalu) 5.67
7 Kurumba (Metspalu) 6.98
8 Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 7.13
9 Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 8.29
10 Hakkipikki (Metspalu) 8.76
11 North_Kannadi (Behar) 11.62
12 Muslim (Metspalu) 12.48
13 Tharus (Metspalu) 12.56
14 Kanjars (Metspalu) 12.78
15 Velamas (Metspalu) 13.18
16 Dharkars (Metspalu) 13.25
17 Gond (Metspalu) 13.81
18 INS30 (SGVP) 14.36
19 GIH30 (Dodecad) 16.73
20 Iyengar (Dodecad) 19.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.8% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 11.2% Savara (Chaubey) @ 1.97
2 88.7% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 11.3% Ho (Chaubey) @ 1.98
3 89.1% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 10.9% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 2.01
4 75.6% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 24.4% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.08
5 85.7% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 14.3% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 2.1
6 61.8% Velamas (Metspalu) + 38.2% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.11
7 90.4% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 9.6% Juang (Chaubey) @ 2.2
8 90.4% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 9.6% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 2.22
9 91.6% SAKILLI (Behar) + 8.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 2.26
10 81.9% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 18.1% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.32
11 81.3% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 18.7% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.37
12 94.4% SAKILLI (Behar) + 5.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.38
13 94.6% SAKILLI (Behar) + 5.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 2.39
14 74.7% Kurumba (Metspalu) + 25.3% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.41
15 67.5% Kurumba (Metspalu) + 32.5% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.47
16 63.8% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 36.2% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 2.47
17 80.3% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 19.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.49
18 94% SAKILLI (Behar) + 6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.54
19 54.4% SAKILLI (Behar) + 45.6% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 2.55
20 75.7% SAKILLI (Behar) + 24.3% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 2.59

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dusadh_Metspalu +50% SAKILLI_Behar @ 2.585433


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chenchus_Metspalu +25% Gond_Metspalu +25% Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.990564


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu @ 1.504826
2 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu @ 1.595058
3 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + SAKILLI_Behar + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.635149
4 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.691106
5 Chenchus_Metspalu + Nihali_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.730141
6 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.768161
7 Chenchus_Metspalu + Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu @ 1.792736
8 Chenchus_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Nihali_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.804158
9 Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu @ 1.807983
10 Chamar_Metspalu + Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.857343
11 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.871164
12 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kol_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.889562
13 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.902728
14 Chamar_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.915254
15 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.933233
16 Gond_Metspalu + Hakkipikki_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.961186
17 Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Hakkipikki_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.967048
18 Chenchus_Metspalu + Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.990564
19 Chenchus_Metspalu + Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu @ 2.003846
20 Chenchus_Metspalu + MALAYAN_Behar + Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 2.004727



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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 68.57
2 Baloch 25.63
3 NE-Asian 2.63
4 SE-Asian 1.08
5 Papuan 0.97
6 Siberian 0.43
7 Caucasian 0.43
8 E-African 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 sakilli (chaubey) 2.17
2 tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) 2.3
3 madiga (reich) 2.56
4 ap-madiga (xing) 2.78
5 chamar (metspalu) 3.2
6 kamsali (reich) 3.36
7 bhil (reich) 3.75
8 hakkipikki (metspalu) 5.25
9 chenchu (metspalu) 5.5
10 tn-dalit (xing) 5.66
11 north-kannadi (chaubey) 5.73
12 kurumba (reich) 6.29
13 ap-mala (xing) 6.46
14 mala (reich) 6.54
15 vysya (reich) 7.14
16 hallaki (reich) 7.27
17 piramalai-kallar (metspalu) 7.31
18 singapore-indian-a (sgvp) 7.68
19 kol (metspalu) 8.22
20 naidu (reich) 8.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.6% ap-madiga (xing) + 24.4% vysya (reich) @ 1.64
2 60.2% madiga (reich) + 39.8% kamsali (reich) @ 1.69
3 85.8% madiga (reich) + 14.2% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.74
4 90% madiga (reich) + 10% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 1.76
5 90% ap-madiga (xing) + 10% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 1.77
6 59.5% sakilli (chaubey) + 40.5% madiga (reich) @ 1.77
7 78.9% madiga (reich) + 21.1% vysya (reich) @ 1.78
8 73.9% madiga (reich) + 26.1% chenchu (metspalu) @ 1.79
9 80.5% madiga (reich) + 19.5% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 1.81
10 79.6% madiga (reich) + 20.4% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 1.81
11 95.6% madiga (reich) + 4.4% nepalese-c (xing) @ 1.82
12 89.3% madiga (reich) + 10.7% velama (metspalu) @ 1.82
13 91.5% madiga (reich) + 8.5% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 1.83
14 64% sakilli (chaubey) + 36% ap-madiga (xing) @ 1.83
15 91.7% madiga (reich) + 8.3% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 1.83
16 83% madiga (reich) + 17% naidu (reich) @ 1.83
17 92.7% madiga (reich) + 7.3% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 1.85
18 83.8% madiga (reich) + 16.2% kurumba (metspalu) @ 1.86
19 82% madiga (reich) + 18% kol (metspalu) @ 1.86
20 84.8% madiga (reich) + 15.2% dusadh (metspalu) @ 1.87

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kamsali_reich +50% madiga_reich @ 1.828901


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% ap-madiga_xing +25% madiga_reich +25% vysya_reich @ 1.591034


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + vysya_reich @ 1.591034
2 ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + vysya_reich @ 1.658748
3 ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.661673
4 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.673029
5 ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.687306
6 madiga_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.695064
7 madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.738316
8 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.741357
9 ap-madiga_xing + kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.770771
10 ap-madiga_xing + kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.774296
11 ap-madiga_xing + ap-madiga_xing + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.784175
12 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.795530
13 ap-madiga_xing + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.795765
14 kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.801649
15 madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey + sakilli_chaubey + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa @ 1.809546
16 ap-mala_xing + madiga_reich + tamil-vishwakarma_harappa + vysya_reich @ 1.820518
17 kamsali_reich + kamsali_reich + madiga_reich + madiga_reich @ 1.828901
18 ap-madiga_xing + madiga_reich + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.834674
19 chenchu_metspalu + madiga_reich + madiga_reich + sakilli_chaubey @ 1.846555
20 chenchu_metspalu + madiga_reich + tn-dalit_xing + vysya_reich @ 1.848180




Eurasia K9 ASI


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 49.21
2 Ancestral_South_Indian 24.35
3 SE_Asian 19.8
4 Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer 3.44
5 W_African 1.92
6 SW_Asian 0.79
7 Siberian_E_Asian 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bengali 4.69
2 Burusho 18.89
3 Paniyas 19.95
4 Punjabi 20.2
5 Pathan 23.31
6 Puliyar 23.9
7 Ho 26.01
8 Kharia 27.13
9 Kurd_SE 27.25
10 Pashtun_Afghan 27.35
11 Tajik_Afghan 27.99
12 Kalash 28.45
13 Brahui 29.01
14 Balochi 29.03
15 Uzbek_Afghan 29.71
16 Makrani 30.88
17 Hazara_Afghan 31.98
18 Tajik_Pomiri 33.56
19 Papuan 33.61
20 Ust_Ishim 33.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Bengali + 11.4% Puliyar @ 3.56
2 89.4% Bengali + 10.6% Paniyas @ 4.08
3 98.2% Bengali + 1.8% MOTA @ 4.3
4 98.5% Bengali + 1.5% Esan @ 4.31
5 98.5% Bengali + 1.5% Yoruba @ 4.31
6 97.1% Bengali + 2.9% Great_Andamanese @ 4.35
7 98.3% Bengali + 1.7% Masai @ 4.37
8 95.1% Bengali + 4.9% Brahui @ 4.45
9 95.5% Bengali + 4.5% Makrani @ 4.46
10 93.3% Bengali + 6.7% Punjabi @ 4.47
11 95.3% Bengali + 4.7% Balochi @ 4.47
12 95.9% Bengali + 4.1% Kalash @ 4.53
13 95.4% Bengali + 4.6% Pathan @ 4.56
14 98.7% Bengali + 1.3% SATSURBILA @ 4.62
15 98% Bengali + 2% Ust_Ishim @ 4.63
16 98.9% Bengali + 1.1% Yemen @ 4.63
17 98.3% Bengali + 1.7% Papuan @ 4.65
18 98.2% Bengali + 1.8% Pashtun_Afghan @ 4.66
19 98.9% Bengali + 1.1% Iranian @ 4.66
20 99.3% Bengali + 0.7% BedouinA @ 4.66

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bengali +50% Bengali @ 4.431327


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bengali +25% Paniyas +25% Punjabi @ 3.271967


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas + Punjabi @ 3.271967
2 Bengali + Paniyas + Papuan + SATSURBILA @ 3.592223
3 Bengali + Bengali + Burusho + Paniyas @ 3.694828
4 Bengali + Bengali + Burusho + Puliyar @ 3.819503
5 Bengali + Bengali + Brahui + Paniyas @ 4.002330
6 Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas + Pathan @ 4.006244
7 Bengali + Bengali + Kurd_SE + Paniyas @ 4.138558
8 Bengali + Bengali + Puliyar + Punjabi @ 4.223747
9 Balochi + Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas @ 4.282189
10 Burusho + Great_Andamanese + Kharia + SATSURBILA @ 4.311377
11 Papuan + Papuan + Punjabi + SATSURBILA @ 4.366594
12 Bengali + Bengali + Bengali + Bengali @ 4.431327
13 Great_Andamanese + Kharia + Kurd_SE + SATSURBILA @ 4.547910
14 Bengali + Papuan + Puliyar + SATSURBILA @ 4.572278
15 Bengali + Bengali + Kurd_SE + Puliyar @ 4.578841
16 Bengali + Bengali + Makrani + Paniyas @ 4.594162
17 Bengali + Ho + Papuan + SATSURBILA @ 4.603512
18 Bengali + Papuan + Papuan + SATSURBILA @ 4.629614
19 Ho + Puliyar + SATSURBILA + Ust_Ishim @ 4.672438
20 Kharia + Puliyar + SATSURBILA + Ust_Ishim @ 4.687671



Ancient Eurasia K6



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 33.23
2 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 31.41
3 East_Asian 18.32
4 Natufian 16.54
5 Sub_Saharan 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bengali 4.59
2 Punjabi_PJL 11.55
3 Palliyar 11.6
4 GujaratiD 13.08
5 GujaratiC 15.78
6 Paniyas 17.45
7 GujaratiB 20.01
8 Burusho 21.53
9 GujaratiA 22.41
10 Kharia 23.31
11 Punjabi 23.54
12 Sindhi 25.88
13 Pathan 28.12
14 Kalash 29.16
15 Pashtun_Afghan 29.7
16 Tajik 32.71
17 Kurd_SE 33.61
18 Balochi 34.8
19 Brahui 35.49
20 Turkmen 36.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.8% Bengali + 28.2% Palliyar @ 0.64
2 66.9% Punjabi_PJL + 33.1% Kharia @ 0.75
3 79.4% Bengali + 20.6% Paniyas @ 0.75
4 64.1% GujaratiD + 35.9% Kharia @ 1.26
5 94.5% Bengali + 5.5% Papuan @ 1.35
6 94.5% Bengali + 5.5% Andamanese @ 1.35
7 94.5% Bengali + 5.5% Australian @ 1.35
8 93.5% Bengali + 6.5% Onge @ 1.44
9 59.7% GujaratiC + 40.3% Kharia @ 1.66
10 65.2% Palliyar + 34.8% Burusho @ 1.85
11 55.3% Paniyas + 44.7% Burusho @ 2.18
12 53.9% GujaratiB + 46.1% Kharia @ 3.64
13 89.5% Bengali + 10.5% Kharia @ 3.71
14 73% Palliyar + 27% Pashtun_Afghan @ 4.02
15 75.5% Palliyar + 24.5% Kurd_SE @ 4.1
16 68.1% Palliyar + 31.9% Punjabi @ 4.14
17 72% Palliyar + 28% Pathan @ 4.23
18 64.5% Palliyar + 35.5% GujaratiB @ 4.32
19 72.9% Palliyar + 27.1% Kalash @ 4.42
20 51% GujaratiA + 49% Kharia @ 4.48

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Burusho +50% Paniyas @ 3.049908


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bengali +25% Bengali +25% Palliyar @ 0.806784


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 GujaratiB + Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi_PJL @ 0.555983
2 GujaratiB + GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar @ 0.612652
3 Bengali + Bengali + Bengali + Palliyar @ 0.806784
4 GujaratiD + Kharia + Paniyas + Punjabi @ 1.114525
5 GujaratiB + GujaratiB + Kharia + Paniyas @ 1.152326
6 Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi + Punjabi_PJL @ 1.189786
7 Bengali + Bengali + Bengali + Paniyas @ 1.224892
8 GujaratiB + GujaratiC + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.263203
9 Kharia + Paniyas + Punjabi + Punjabi_PJL @ 1.317761
10 Bengali + Burusho + Palliyar + Palliyar @ 1.375364
11 GujaratiA + Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi_PJL @ 1.394923
12 GujaratiB + GujaratiC + Kharia + Paniyas @ 1.433659
13 GujaratiC + GujaratiC + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.443441
14 GujaratiC + GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.463753
15 GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar + Punjabi @ 1.495448
16 GujaratiB + GujaratiD + Kharia + Paniyas @ 1.499008
17 Bengali + Burusho + Palliyar + Paniyas @ 1.500633
18 GujaratiC + Kharia + Paniyas + Punjabi @ 1.522874
19 GujaratiA + GujaratiD + Kharia + Palliyar @ 1.542436
20 GujaratiD + Kharia + Paniyas + Sindhi @ 1.575155



Eurasia K3

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Eurasian 51.19
2 W_Eurasian 45.19
3 SSA 3.61


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Madiga @ 0.000000
2 Hallkipiki @ 1.921550
3 Chenchu @ 2.144522
4 Mala @ 2.266515
5 Kamsali @ 4.034432
6 Irula @ 4.633638
7 UP_Chamar @ 4.687126
8 Bengali @ 5.284288
9 Bhil @ 6.749998
10 Tharu @ 6.869217
11 Kallar @ 6.955253
12 Piramalai @ 7.111300
13 Hazara @ 7.318689
14 Kattunayakkan @ 9.105972
15 Kurumba @ 10.013086
16 UP_Caste @ 10.668000
17 Uzbek @ 10.906064
18 Nihali @ 11.370765
19 UP_Kol @ 11.733235
20 Velama @ 13.227995

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Madiga +50% Madiga @ 0.000000
2 50% GujaratiD +50% Paniyas @ 0.372158
3 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Kurumba @ 0.554646
4 50% Lebanese +50% Ulchi @ 0.652137
5 50% Han +50% Lebanese @ 0.698300
6 50% Ami +50% Lebanese @ 0.709276
7 50% Lebanese +50% Nivkh @ 0.709276
8 50% Dai +50% Lebanese @ 0.709306
9 50% Makrani +50% Sherpa @ 0.826735
10 50% Kurumba +50% Nihali @ 0.916298
11 50% Bhumij +50% Vaish @ 1.020815
12 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Piramalai @ 1.033308
13 50% Irula +50% UP_Chamar @ 1.047759
14 50% Irula +50% Kamsali @ 1.054341
15 50% Kanjar +50% Paniyas @ 1.076851
16 50% Hallkipiki +50% Madiga @ 1.080878
17 50% Malli +50% Nihali @ 1.101340
18 50% Great_Andamanese +50% Turkmen @ 1.135385
19 50% Chenchu +50% Madiga @ 1.169216
20 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Tharu @ 1.193061


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Altaian +25% Irula +25% Palestinian @ 0.000000



Dodecad k12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 66.94
2 Gedrosia 27.24
3 Southeast_Asian 2.47
4 East_Asian 2.42
5 East_African 0.76
6 Siberian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kol (Metspalu) 3.85
2 Chenchus (Metspalu) 4.05
3 SAKILLI (Behar) 4.72
4 Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) 4.88
5 Dusadh (Metspalu) 5.37
6 Chamar (Metspalu) 5.67
7 Kurumba (Metspalu) 6.98
8 Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 7.13
9 Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 8.29
10 Hakkipikki (Metspalu) 8.76
11 North_Kannadi (Behar) 11.62
12 Muslim (Metspalu) 12.48
13 Tharus (Metspalu) 12.56
14 Kanjars (Metspalu) 12.78
15 Velamas (Metspalu) 13.18
16 Dharkars (Metspalu) 13.25
17 Gond (Metspalu) 13.81
18 INS30 (SGVP) 14.36
19 GIH30 (Dodecad) 16.73
20 Iyengar (Dodecad) 19.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.8% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 11.2% Savara (Chaubey) @ 1.97
2 88.7% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 11.3% Ho (Chaubey) @ 1.98
3 89.1% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 10.9% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 2.01
4 75.6% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 24.4% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.08
5 85.7% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 14.3% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 2.1
6 61.8% Velamas (Metspalu) + 38.2% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.11
7 90.4% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 9.6% Juang (Chaubey) @ 2.2
8 90.4% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 9.6% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 2.22
9 91.6% SAKILLI (Behar) + 8.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 2.26
10 81.9% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) + 18.1% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.32
11 81.3% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 18.7% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.37
12 94.4% SAKILLI (Behar) + 5.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 2.38
13 94.6% SAKILLI (Behar) + 5.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 2.39
14 74.7% Kurumba (Metspalu) + 25.3% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.41
15 67.5% Kurumba (Metspalu) + 32.5% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.47
16 63.8% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 36.2% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 2.47
17 80.3% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 19.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.49
18 94% SAKILLI (Behar) + 6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.54
19 54.4% SAKILLI (Behar) + 45.6% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 2.55
20 75.7% SAKILLI (Behar) + 24.3% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 2.59

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dusadh_Metspalu +50% SAKILLI_Behar @ 2.585433


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Chenchus_Metspalu +25% Gond_Metspalu +25% Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.990564


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu @ 1.504826
2 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu @ 1.595058
3 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + SAKILLI_Behar + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.635149
4 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.691106
5 Chenchus_Metspalu + Nihali_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.730141
6 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.768161
7 Chenchus_Metspalu + Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu @ 1.792736
8 Chenchus_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Nihali_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.804158
9 Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu @ 1.807983
10 Chamar_Metspalu + Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.857343
11 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.871164
12 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kol_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.889562
13 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.902728
14 Chamar_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.915254
15 Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu @ 1.933233
16 Gond_Metspalu + Hakkipikki_Metspalu + Kurumba_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.961186
17 Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Hakkipikki_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.967048
18 Chenchus_Metspalu + Chenchus_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 1.990564
19 Chenchus_Metspalu + Dusadh_Metspalu + Gond_Metspalu + Piramalai_Kallars_Metspalu @ 2.003846
20 Chenchus_Metspalu + MALAYAN_Behar + Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste_Metspalu + Velamas_Metspalu @ 2.004727



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Wow that's very high south indian and ASI/east eurasian for a gounder. He clusters closest to low castes/ dalits from south india than he does to mid castes.. Actually there's no mid-caste population showing up in his top 20 for harappa. Gounders usually should score roughly the same as me. Might not be pure vellalar then. Actually he doesn't even look mixed, seems more like a low caste convert. He's basically 2-3% lower in South indian percentage compared to the south indian dalits. But thanks for posting this because his values are similar to dalits.. Now I know roughly how much ASI low castes would score. There's almost no low caste gedmatch kits available as far as I know.. Seems like their ASI is lower than I expected. Its only 25% on K9. I expected around 30%-35%.. He also has high east asian so a lot of it might be ASI as weThere are some other subcastes among gounder caste cause it is a community stretched all over tamil nadu so he might be a from a low subcaste, a convert or just an exceptional case.

[Hadouken]

Wow that's very high south indian and ASI/east eurasian for a gounder. He clusters closest to low castes/ dalits from south india than he does to mid castes.. Actually there's no mid-caste population showing up in his top 20 for harappa. Gounders usually should score roughly the same as me. Might not be pure vellalar then. Actually he doesn't even look mixed, seems more like a low caste convert. He's basically 2-3% lower in South indian percentage compared to the south indian dalits. But thanks for posting this because his values are similar to dalits.. Now I know roughly how much ASI low castes would score. There's almost no low caste gedmatch kits available as far as I know.. Seems like their ASI is lower than I expected. Its only 25% on K9. I expected around 30%-35%.. He also has high east asian so a lot of it might be ASI as weThere are some other subcastes among gounder caste cause it is a community stretched all over tamil nadu so he might be a from a low subcaste, a convert or just an exceptional case.

well as I said I dont know the person . he is a gounder according to a member but you can never be 100 % sure

I think on K9 the SE asian component masks some onge stuff aswell but probably not much

as for the rest : I dont/cant understand what you are saying haha . sounds very complicated

[Thambi]

well as I said I dont know the person . he is a gounder according to a member but you can never be 100 % sure

I think on K9 the SE asian component masks some onge stuff aswell but probably not much

as for the rest : I dont/cant understand what you are saying haha . sounds very complicated

haha lol. Didn't mean to make it confusing. All i was saying was his genetic profile looks similar to a low caste person than to a mid caste. Yeah some of the ASI could be going into se asian as you mentioned...

[Maguzanci]

Even the blackest tribals are more West Eurasian than ASI. But thinking about it, they may not qualify as Caucasoid since Caucasoid is a phenotypic term rather than a genetic term.

Depends. Paniyas are also one of the blackest tribals. Paniyas are around 75% ASI/AASI and 25% Western genetically (based on Global K25 model). Although other sources put them closer to 30% Western blood.

[Maguzanci]

Well, that makes sense. Kazakhs are over 1/3 West Eurasian, but who would call them Caucasoid? How much Caucasoid are Southern Indians? 50% or more?

Similar amounts of Caucasoid to North Sudanese and Horners aka Somalis, Ethiopians and Eritreans.

[Thambi]

Depends. Paniyas are also one of the blackest tribals. Paniyas are around 75% ASI/AASI and 25% Western genetically (based on Global K25 model). Although other sources put them closer to 30% Western blood.

lol this thread was over a year ago. I'm shocked how much we've progressed with the new data. 75% ASI was unbelievable at that time where its well known that many indians get half ASI easily on that G25 calc.

[Maguzanci]

lol this thread was over a year ago. I'm shocked how much we've progressed with the new data. 75% ASI was unbelievable at that time where its well known that many indians get half ASI easily on that G25 calc.

True. It seems the complex South Asian genetic puzzle is getting more closer and closer to being solved.

To be as high as 75% AASI, they must be very isolated even from other South Indians. I think 100% AASI pheno would look somewhat like the Paniya but probably 10× time darker and much more exotic looking. I wonder would pure AASI look somewhat like Papuans/Melanesians or not.

Also I wonder if the actual Western blood in Paniya is 25% or 30% (which is what i heard from other sources)

That is indeed true.

[Thambi]

True. It seems the complex South Asian genetic puzzle is getting more closer and closer to being solved.

To be as high as 75% AASI, they must be very isolated even from other South Indians. I think 100% AASI pheno would look somewhat like the Paniya but probably 10× time darker and much more exotic looking. I wonder would pure AASI look somewhat like Papuans/Melanesians or nor.

Also I wonder if the actual Western blood in Paniya is 25% or 30% (which is what i heard from other sources)

That is indeed true.

There are indians today that look negrito like and papuan like so i think AASI cultures had people that veguely resembled both. Or maybe pseudo papuan look can occur when AASI and Iran_N are mixed and original AASIs just looked liek negritos from andaman islands

[Token]

Negritoid+Caucasoid.

[Maguzanci]

There are indians today that look negrito like and papuan like so i think AASI cultures had people that veguely resembled both. Or maybe pseudo papuan look can occur when AASI and Iran_N are mixed and original AASIs just looked liek negritos from andaman islands

Agree, AASI phenos probably look diverse. That Paniya filmmaker in the other thread can easily pass in Pacific Islands and parts of Eastern Indonesia. She look a bit Papuan-like phenotypically which could be a result of mostly AASI combined with Iran blood.

Many Papuans and other Melanesians can look almost Caucasoid despite their dark skin and nappy hair.

Yeh I also used to think AASI might look like the Andamanese islanders. Some AASI might look like Australian Aborigines or Torres Strait Islanders as well.

Also in the link below is an Orissa politician from the Bonda tribe (the first ethnic Bonda to join Member of Legislative Assembly) and I thinks he looks pseudo Negrito or Black-ish despite him likely having significant Mongoloid ancestry (with very minor Western affinity of course):

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290437-Does-he-look-Black-Where-can-he-pass

Some.AASI might have sort look like him as well.

[Leto]

Similar amounts of Caucasoid to North Sudanese and Horners aka Somalis, Ethiopians and Eritreans.
What about Andhra Pradesh? The actor Danny Pudi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Pudi) who is half Indian (father from AP) and half Polish (mother from NE Poland) looks straight up Indian
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Danny_Pudi_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg/476px-Danny_Pudi_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg
His wife is Irish, so the kids are 1/4 Southern Indian and white-passing to me. I'd like to see their DNA results.
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Broadcast+Television+Journalists+Association+XvqlK YklrvSx.jpg
https://heightline.com/wp-content/uploads/Danny-Pudis-and-wife-Bridget-Showalter-e1531126760388.jpg