Classify Iron Age Ostrobothnians

[Harkonnen]

http://numtorum.suntuubi.com/datafiles/gallery/1/Levanluhta.jpg

[Harkonnen]

This one too

https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_674,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-10053759.jpg

[Kamal900]

Someone from the Baltic sea like Estonian or Lithuanian.

[Harkonnen]

Pumpanen

http://static.iltalehti.fi/viihde/juttukesis4JOB_vi.jpg

[Hulu]

1. Nordid
2. Not sure, subnordid and baltid?

[Sandman]

First - subnordid
second - west-baltid.

[Harkonnen]

They are Iron Age Ostrobothnians.

[RN97]

first one is nordic. Corded perhaps some borreby in there. The 2nd one is def. east baltic. First looks Scando-Germanic, 2nd looks Finnish/ Estonian.

[Harkonnen]

Expert opinion


Several scholars have analyzed parts of the bone material and the first osteological analysis was carried out only shortly after Rancken’s excavations in 1886. However, the analysis with the largest impact on archaeological interpretations was made in 1902 by anthropologist Fredrik Wilhelm Westerlund, who proposed that the Levänluhta population had been long-skulled and thus of a different ethnic origin from the Finns. Hence, the bones were interpreted to have belonged to people of Germanic origin

[Peterski]

The first one looks like one of former members of this forum.

[Harkonnen]

Here are the skulls. They are all female skulls despite the broad robust jaws (jaws are not seen in pics but according to anthpologist who checked them the jaws were more robust than typical female jaws) and square eyesockets. Typically females have more rounded eyesockets

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Leväluhta_bog%2C_Merovingian_age_bones_-_National_Museum_of_Finland_-_DSC04176.JPG
http://retkipaikka.fi/vapaa/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/leväluhdankadonnutkansa-3-700x394.jpg

[Peterski]

http://numtorum.suntuubi.com/datafiles/gallery/1/Levanluhta.jpg

^^^
Looks exactly like UkrainianGirl, a banned member.

[Harkonnen]

first one is nordic. Corded perhaps some borreby in there. The 2nd one is def. east baltic. First looks Scando-Germanic, 2nd looks Finnish/ Estonian.

Genetically both of these girls are more Siberian than modern Saami. Saami's are basically Levänluhta(these girs)+Finnic (Uralic) admixture


Abstract: The population history of Finland is subject of an ongoing debate, in particular with respect to the relationship and origins of modern Finnish and Saami people. Here we analyse genome-wide data, extracted from three teeth found in the archaeological site of Levänluhta, in southern Ostrobothnia.
The site dates back to the Iron Age between 550-800 AD, according to the artefacts recovered, while radiocarbon dating on scattered femurs from the site span 350-730 AD.

When analysed together with previously published ancient European samples and with modern European populations, the ancient Finnish samples lack a genetic component found in early Neolithic Farmers and all modern European populations today. Instead, we find that they are more closely related to modern Siberian and East Asian populations than modern Finnish are, a pattern also observed in genetic data from modern Saami.

Our results suggest that the ancestral Saami population 1500 years ago, inhabited a larger region than today, extending as far south as Levänluhta. Such a scenario is also supported by linguistic evidence suggesting most of Finland to have been speaking Saami languages before 1000 AD. We also observe genetic differences between modern Saami and our ancient samples, which are likely to have arisen due to admixture with Finnish people during the last 1500 years.

[Dick]

Pumpanen

http://static.iltalehti.fi/viihde/juttukesis4JOB_vi.jpg

Oh yeah.....

[Harkonnen]

Oh yeah.....

Viivi Pumpanen, the bump-a-thread-girl

[Dick]

Viivi Pumpanen, the bump-a-thread-girl

it worked!

[Odin]

1. Corded.
2. East-Baltid.