Bosniensis FTDNA Results (Gedmatch etc...)

[Bosniensis]

https://i.imgur.com/rAd37OD.png
https://i.imgur.com/oUOLbOI.png
https://i.imgur.com/hIX46eL.png
https://i.imgur.com/jmsNmow.png
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EUROGENES K15

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 17.93
2 North_Sea 16.37
3 Atlantic 15.64
4 Eastern_Euro 13.35
5 West_Med 12.62
6 East_Med 11.81
7 West_Asian 8.08
8 Red_Sea 1.73
9 South_Asian 1.64
10 Northeast_African 0.56
11 Southeast_Asian 0.17
12 Oceanian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.95
2 Romanian 4.97
3 Moldavian 5.96
4 Bulgarian 7.08
5 Croatian 7.45
6 Hungarian 8.85
7 Austrian 9.21
8 East_German 13.15
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.66
10 South_Polish 14.05
11 Ukrainian 14.43
12 Greek_Thessaly 14.46
13 Greek 15.25
14 Polish 16.6
15 North_Italian 16.89
16 Russian_Smolensk 16.98
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.1
18 Tuscan 17.59
19 Southwest_Russian 17.65
20 French 18.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Moldavian + 21.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.03
2 66.7% Croatian + 33.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.03
3 79.5% Croatian + 20.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.1
4 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.14
5 74.3% Croatian + 25.7% Central_Greek @ 2.16
6 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.18
7 75% Croatian + 25% East_Sicilian @ 2.19
8 77.2% Croatian + 22.8% South_Italian @ 2.24
9 68% Croatian + 32% Greek @ 2.27
10 59.5% Ukrainian + 40.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.31
11 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% Greek @ 2.36
12 76.1% Moldavian + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.37
13 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.43
14 50.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.3% Tuscan @ 2.44
15 82.3% Croatian + 17.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.45
16 73.5% Moldavian + 26.5% Greek @ 2.47
17 52.1% South_Polish + 47.9% Greek @ 2.47
18 74.9% Croatian + 25.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.47
19 83% Croatian + 17% Cyprian @ 2.49
20 53.5% Greek_Thessaly + 46.5% Polish @ 2.53


EUROGENES K13


1 Baltic 28.79
2 North_Atlantic 25.08
3 West_Med 16.52
4 East_Med 15.28
5 West_Asian 8.98
6 South_Asian 1.98
7 Red_Sea 1.4
8 East_Asian 0.98
9 Northeast_African 0.66
10 Oceanian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.11
2 Romanian 5.37
3 Moldavian 6.46
4 Bulgarian 7.42
5 Croatian 8.75
6 Hungarian 9.14
7 Austrian 12.48
8 East_German 13.8
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.32
10 Greek_Thessaly 15.82
11 South_Polish 15.89
12 Ukrainian 16.48
13 West_German 17.85
14 North_Italian 18.6
15 French 19.28
16 South_Dutch 19.37
17 Polish 19.49
18 Southwest_Russian 19.83
19 Tuscan 19.93
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Greek_Thessaly + 49.9% South_Polish @ 1.76
2 64.8% Croatian + 35.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.9
3 58.7% Ukrainian + 41.3% West_Sicilian @ 1.9
4 73.1% Croatian + 26.9% West_Sicilian @ 1.95
5 76% Croatian + 24% South_Italian @ 1.97
6 79.1% Croatian + 20.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.05
7 63.2% South_Polish + 36.8% South_Italian @ 2.11
8 73.8% Croatian + 26.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.12
9 63.3% Romanian + 36.7% Croatian @ 2.12
10 72.9% Croatian + 27.1% Central_Greek @ 2.19
11 76.9% Romanian + 23.1% Ukrainian @ 2.21
12 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% Polish @ 2.22
13 79.2% Croatian + 20.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.24
14 57.3% Ukrainian + 42.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.25
15 54.5% Bulgarian + 45.5% Croatian @ 2.26
16 72.2% Croatian + 27.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.27
17 79.3% Croatian + 20.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.29
18 60.3% South_Polish + 39.7% East_Sicilian @ 2.31
19 80% Romanian + 20% Polish @ 2.31
20 62.4% Ukrainian + 37.6% South_Italian @ 2.35


PUNTDNAL 15



# Population Percent
1 NE_European 48.45
2 Mediterranean 29.31
3 Caucasian 13.41
4 SW_Asian 4.19
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.86
6 Beringian 1.28
7 Oceanian 0.78
8 S_African 0.34
9 Wht_Nile_River 0.28
10 Amerindian 0.08
11 S_Indian 0.02
12 Omo_River 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 2.77
2 Croatian 5.12
3 South_German 6.2
4 Bosnian 6.23
5 French 6.81
6 Hungarian 6.82
7 Utahn_White 6.87
8 Macedonian 7.5
9 Austrian 7.89
10 Slovenian 8.1
11 Irish 8.23
12 Romanian 9.03
13 English 9.08
14 Orcadian 9.21
15 Bulgarian 9.52
16 North_German 10.42
17 Scottish 10.72
18 Montenegrin 11.51
19 Norwegian 11.96
20 Italian 14.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Bulgarian + 29.5% Belarusian @ 1.66
2 82% Hungarian + 18% Sicilian @ 1.73
3 58.7% Hungarian + 41.3% Bulgarian @ 1.75
4 52.1% Tuscan + 47.9% Belarusian @ 1.78
5 83.2% Hungarian + 16.8% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.79
6 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Lithuanian @ 1.8
7 82.4% North_German + 17.6% Samaritian @ 1.81
8 80.5% Slovenian + 19.5% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.82
9 74.3% Hungarian + 25.7% Albanian @ 1.82
10 76.3% Swedish + 23.7% Cypriot @ 1.82
11 79.2% Slovenian + 20.8% Sicilian @ 1.83
12 78.4% Slovenian + 21.6% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.86
13 81.3% Hungarian + 18.7% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.86
14 54.2% Slovenian + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 1.87
15 75.8% Hungarian + 24.2% Tuscan @ 1.88
16 80.6% Norwegian + 19.4% Assyrian @ 1.9
17 63.4% Hungarian + 36.6% Montenegrin @ 1.9
18 85% Irish + 15% Palestinian @ 1.92
19 66.3% Croatian + 33.7% Bulgarian @ 1.92
20 54.2% Albanian + 45.8% Belarusian



GEDROSIA K12



# Population Percent
1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 33.8
2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 32.22
3 CAUCASUS 19.17
4 SW_ASIAN 7.64
5 BALOCHI 4.76
6 INDO_TIBETAN 1.31
7 SE_ASIAN 0.57
8 E_SIBERIAN 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 14.76
2 Sicilian 21.58
3 Norwegian 23.1
4 Turks_Istanbul 26.58
5 Turks_Aydin 30.7
6 Turks_Balikesir 30.92
7 Russian 32.3
8 Kurds_N 35.75
9 Kurds_C 35.87
10 Turks_Adana 36.18
11 Turks_Kayseri 36.76
12 Finnish 36.81
13 Iraqi_Chaldeans 37.67
14 Kurds_F 38.01
15 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 38.16
16 Tajik_Pomiri 38.2
17 Turkmen_Afghan 38.25
18 Kurds_E 38.36
19 Estonian 38.92
20 Iraqi_Jew 39.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% Norwegian + 46.4% Turks_Istanbul @ 4.19
2 69.4% Greek + 30.6% Russian @ 4.36
3 61.7% Greek + 38.3% Norwegian @ 4.37
4 61.7% Norwegian + 38.3% Turks_Kayseri @ 4.4
5 73.3% Greek + 26.7% Estonian @ 4.49
6 74% Greek + 26% Lithuanian @ 4.55
7 72.3% Greek + 27.7% Finnish @ 4.69
8 64.3% Norwegian + 35.7% Armenian @ 4.73
9 61.4% Norwegian + 38.6% Turks_Adana @ 4.87
10 51.8% Sicilian + 48.2% Norwegian @ 5.67
11 57.4% Norwegian + 42.6% Turks_Aydin @ 5.85
12 65.4% Norwegian + 34.6% Assyrian @ 5.89
13 60.5% Sicilian + 39.5% Russian @ 5.91
14 63.5% Norwegian + 36.5% Iraqi_Jew @ 5.94
15 62.5% Norwegian + 37.5% Iraqi_Chaldeans @ 6.14
16 65.8% Sicilian + 34.2% Lithuanian @ 6.22
17 65% Sicilian + 35% Estonian @ 6.25
18 84.6% Greek + 15.4% BA_Sintashta @ 6.29
19 84.6% Greek + 15.4% Corded_Ware_LN @ 6.29
20 57.7% Norwegian + 42.3% Turks_Balikesir



MDLP K16



# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.78
2 Neolithic 25.17
3 NorthEastEuropean 23.42
4 Steppe 19.91
5 NearEast 1.9
6 Oceanic 0.24
7 Amerindian 0.19
8 NorthAfrican 0.18
9 Indian 0.16
10 SouthEastAsian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 3.9
2 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 3.95
3 Serbian (Serbia) 4.07
4 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.22
5 Croat (Croatia) 4.29
6 Moldavian (Molodva) 4.34
7 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 4.55
8 Romanian (Apuseni) 4.59
9 Macedonian (Macedonia) 5.54
10 Austrian (Austria) 6.01
11 Romanian (Gorj) 6.1
12 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.12
13 Slovenian (Slovenia) 6.49
14 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.58
15 Hungarian (Budapest) 7.27
16 Hungarian (Hungary) 7.4
17 Cossack (Zaporozhie) 7.61
18 German (SouthGermany) 7.63
19 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 7.9
20 Italian (Friul) 8.12



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[Jana]

Where is your FTDNA family finder population breakdown ?

[Bosniensis]

DNA.LAND

https://i.imgur.com/OTfOhMe.png

[Bosniensis]

Where is your FTDNA family finder population breakdown ?

It's still processing.

[Leto]

How different are these GEDmatch results from the ones based on the 23andme data?

[Bosniensis]

How different are these GEDmatch results from the ones based on the 23andme data?

This is old Eurogenes K15 with 50k SNP's, New one uses 170k SNP's so it's much more precise

https://i.imgur.com/5x5iSpp.png

[Jana]

This is old Eurogenes K15 with 50k SNP's, New one uses 170k SNP's so it's much more precise

https://i.imgur.com/5x5iSpp.png

Is that gedmatch genesis ?

[Leto]

This is old Eurogenes K15 with 50k SNP's, New one uses 170k SNP's so it's much more precise

I don't understand something. Usually there was only a minor difference between the results based on different raw data. Are you using Genesis? Because in this case the difference is much more significant.

[Leto]

For example, Alnortedelsur's results using 23andme and Ancestry data:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.93
2 West_Med 21.66
3 East_Med 15.12
4 Baltic 9.55
5 Amerindian 6.51
6 Sub-Saharan 5.77
7 West_Asian 4.36
8 Red_Sea 3.2
9 Northeast_African 1.08
10 Siberian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 11.4


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.95
2 West_Med 22.01
3 East_Med 15.7
4 Baltic 8.88
5 Amerindian 6.66
6 Sub-Saharan 5.34
7 West_Asian 4.2
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 1.4
10 Siberian 0.75

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 11.22

Only a minor difference (less than 1%).

[Bosniensis]

I don't understand something. Usually there was only a minor difference between the results based on different raw data. Are you using Genesis? Because in this case the difference is much more significant.

I was using 23andMe and Genesis (V5 data, I had to)

But now using gedmatch (normal one) and ftdna data

[Leto]

But now using gedmatch (normal one) and ftdna data
Please post your K13 with both kits. I'm a little bit worried.

[Bosniensis]

Please post your K13 with both kits. I'm a little bit worried.

This is 23andME v5 (Genesis) K13 ---- FTDNA one is in Original Post.

1 Baltic 29.57
2 North_Atlantic 22.59
3 West_Med 16.81
4 East_Med 16.48
5 West_Asian 10.49
6 Red_Sea 1.93
7 East_Asian 0.58
8 Amerindian 0.47
9 Sub-Saharan 0.41
10 South_Asian 0.41
11 Oceanian 0.14
12 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.77
2 Romanian 5.08
3 Bulgarian 6.07
4 Moldavian 6.91
5 Croatian 9.78
6 Hungarian 11.28
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.91
8 Austrian 14.94
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.04
10 East_German 16.22
11 South_Polish 17.01
12 Ukrainian 17.23
13 North_Italian 19.73
14 Southwest_Russian 20.13
15 Tuscan 20.29
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.29
17 Polish 20.42
18 West_German 20.47
19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.56
20 French 21.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Lithuanian @ 1.12
2 78.8% Bulgarian + 21.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.16
3 79.2% Bulgarian + 20.8% Estonian_Polish @ 1.2
4 74.3% Bulgarian + 25.7% Ukrainian @ 1.22
5 73% Bulgarian + 27% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.33
6 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Polish @ 1.41
7 56% Ukrainian + 44% Central_Greek @ 1.42
8 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Belorussian @ 1.45
9 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.46
10 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Southwest_Russian @ 1.47
11 62.2% Bulgarian + 37.8% Croatian @ 1.56
12 79.1% Croatian + 20.9% Cyprian @ 1.66
13 53.4% Bulgarian + 46.6% Moldavian @ 1.68
14 74.4% Bulgarian + 25.6% South_Polish @ 1.77
15 60.5% Ukrainian + 39.5% South_Italian @ 1.78
16 53.7% Greek_Thessaly + 46.3% Ukrainian @ 1.78
17 82.6% Bulgarian + 17.4% Estonian @ 1.86
18 57.7% Greek_Thessaly + 42.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.96
19 57.4% Ukrainian + 42.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.01
20 59.9% Greek_Thessaly + 40.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.01

[Leto]

This is 23andME v5 (Genesis) K13 ---- FTDNA one is in Original Post.

No, I was asking for regular GEDmatch, not Genesis.
By the way, my Genesis results with FTDNA data are also barely different from the regular ones.

[Bosniensis]

No, I was asking for regular GEDmatch, not Genesis.
By the way, my Genesis results with FTDNA data are also barely different from the regular ones.

Well now you have both FTDNA and Genesis 23andMe :) (op and previous post)

Well I was tested with V5 23andMe chip (which was proclaimed TERRIBLE by many reviewers)

[Leto]

Well I was tested with V5 23andMe chip (which was proclaimed TERRIBLE by many reviewers)
As I see, V5 is compatible with Genesis only, so on regular GEDmatch those skewed results are absent, thankfully.

Note that 23andMe test results received since August 2017 which use the V5 chip are not compatible with the legacy site described here - but they are compatible with the new "Genesis Beta" site which you can reach from the foot of your log in page.

[Coolguy1]

As I see, V5 is compatible with Genesis only, so on regular GEDmatch those skewed results are absent, thankfully.

V5 is compatible with regular gedmatch, in terms of processing data through the different tests. The only thing you cannot do is the one to many function to see relatives. Despite this, few snp's are utilized by the v5 chip which I believe makes 23andme data useless. FTDNA raw data is much better.

[Bosniensis]

V5 is compatible with regular gedmatch, in terms of processing data through the different tests. The only thing you cannot do is the one to many function to see relatives. Despite this, few snp's are utilized by the v5 chip which I believe makes 23andme data useless. FTDNA raw data is much better.

58k vs 176k

insane difference with SNPS's

[Leto]

V5 is compatible with regular gedmatch, in terms of processing data through the different tests. The only thing you cannot do is the one to many function to see relatives. Despite this, few snp's are utilized by the v5 chip which I believe makes 23andme data useless. FTDNA raw data is much better.
I really wanna compare FTDNA results with V5 results on regular GEDmatch.

[Bosniensis]

Where is your FTDNA family finder population breakdown ?

https://i.imgur.com/oUOLbOI.png

[Jana]

https://i.imgur.com/oUOLbOI.png

Very nice result. Embrace both your native and slavic ancestors.

[Bosniensis]

Very nice result. Embrace both your native and slavic ancestors.

I do tend to embrace "Roman" history more, cause it's "NEW" to me and because I can bash those who insult us on Balkans "as some people from Siberian plains"

[MercifulServant]

Congrats! I will probably also take Ftdna in the future

[MercifulServant]

I do tend to embrace "Roman" history more, cause it's "NEW" to me and because I can bash those who insult us on Balkans "as some people from Siberian plains"

We are more Native then Slav anyways your gedmatch results prove it we are very simaler on many calcs

[Dick]

I do tend to embrace "Roman" history more, cause it's "NEW" to me and because I can bash those who insult us on Balkans "as some people from Siberian plains"

yay you're my hero.

[Jana]

I do tend to embrace "Roman" history more, cause it's "NEW" to me and because I can bash those who insult us on Balkans "as some people from Siberian plains"

You are more native than Slavic though, not by much , but you are.
My result in comparison:
https://i.imgur.com/XeDcxjy.png

[Jana]

Congrats! I will probably also take Ftdna in the future

You don't need to take it, you can do autosomal transfer for 20 dollars and get family finder results.

[Bosniensis]

Yo don't need to take it, you can do autosomal transfer for 20 dollars and get family finder results.

He should in case he wants to learn more about YDNA (deeper clades) etc..

[Popeye]

MyOrigins is best for autosomal imo.

Myorigins + ydna or mtdna and youre done. No need to waste more money.

You are quite Slavic compared to Albanians though and you still seem quite Southern compared to other Serbs or Bosniaks

[Leto]

https://i.imgur.com/oUOLbOI.png
Interesting and accurate enough. Albanians are (close to) 100% SE Euro and Poles and Belarusians are (close to) 100% East Euro. You are almost 50/50.

[FilhoV]

Typical Bosnian results I have a few kits saved of Bosnians

[Bosniensis]

Typical Bosnian results I have a few kits saved of Bosnians

Please share so I can compare.

[Popeye]

Please share so I can compare.

Lol @ your sig. Huge coping.

[Leto]

Please share so I can compare.
These are Bosniaks:
M893654
A095922
A327540

And this guy is suspiciously close to Bulgarians although he has Bosniak-sounding name and surname
A268010

[Bosniensis]

These are Bosniaks:
M893654
A095922
A327540

And this guy is suspiciously close to Bulgarians although he has Bosniak-sounding name and surname
A268010

What is the surname of that last one?

[Leto]

Nazif Bracic

I've checked now.

Very close indeed.
Lol. You literally doxed that guy. :lol:

[Bosniensis]

Nazif Bracic

I've checked now.

Very close indeed.

Bosnia is extremely diverse.

There is no such thing as "Bosnian Average"

We have all Balkan nations here.

Bosnia was Ottoman Military base.

[greasycaveman]

58k vs 176k

insane difference with SNPS's

so FTDNA has 58k snps and 23andme has 176k?
which one would be more accurate for east europeans?

[Popeye]

Dude, you are really Slavic according to myorigins and your paternal ancestry is Slavic. Your average countryman is even more. You can't possibly be Ilyrian or Thracian. Youre rather a mutt.

Average Albanian scores 100% South East.

[Bosniensis]

so FTDNA has 58k snps and 23andme has 176k?
which one would be more accurate for east europeans?

ftdna has more, probably ftdna

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Dude, you are really Slavic according to myorigins and your paternal ancestry is Slavic. Your average countryman is even more. You can't possibly be Ilyrian or Thracian. Youre rather a mutt.

Average Albanian scores 100% South East.

He is more Balkanite really. But.... He isn't average Bosniak IMHO.

[Bosniensis]

He is more Balkanite really. But.... He isn't average Bosniak IMHO.

We don't know who is average "Bosniak" cause not even 1% tested.

[Leto]

Let's remember Bosniensis once again.