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Перун
02-16-2018, 08:21 PM
Anybody has more info about this haplogroup? This is what 23andme reads:

Your maternal line stems from a branch of haplogroup I called I1a1. The members of I1a1 all descend from a woman who lived approximately 5,000 years ago. She likely lived in the Middle East, perhaps in the area of Iran. During the New Stone Age, also called the Neolithic, waves of people migrated from the Middle East into Europe, bringing with them agricultural technology and new cultures and art. Women bearing I1a1 spread across Europe with these migrations, reaching all the way to the Atlantic Ocean.

In modern times, I1a1 has been found from northeastern Europe and Siberia to Germany, Scandinavia, and the British Isles.

Leto
02-16-2018, 08:34 PM
What are your entire 23andme results if you don't mind me asking?

Carpatz
02-16-2018, 08:39 PM
That's your mtdna and it looks to be common in northern eurasia. What's your ydna (paternal)?

Перун
02-16-2018, 08:44 PM
What are your entire 23andme results if you don't mind me asking?

72559


The 1% is probably cause of my granparents were Terek cossacks and the 0.5% asian because my grandfather from my mother side was Bashkir

Edit: sorry i'm new i don't know how to insert images directly

Перун
02-16-2018, 08:45 PM
That's your mtdna and it looks to be common in northern eurasia. What's your ydna (paternal)?

I-M253

Leto
02-16-2018, 08:48 PM
72559


The 1% is probably cause of my granparents were Terek cossacks and the 0.5% asian because my grandfather from my mother side was Bashkir
Interesting. Now I'd like to see your GEDmatch results. Maybe you can share your kit number with me? If not publicly, then in a reputation comment.

Leto
02-16-2018, 08:51 PM
You are 0% Finnish on 23andme, but 3% Balkan. I guess primarily Southern Russian/Ukrainian.

Перун
02-16-2018, 08:53 PM
Interesting. Now I'd like to see your GEDmatch results. Maybe you can share your kit number with me? If not publicly, then in a reputation comment.

I have deleted my gedmatch account after i got the results. I'll try creating a new one as i see there is a lot of useful info here regarding genetics

Leto
02-16-2018, 08:55 PM
I have deleted my gedmatch account after i got the results. I'll try creating a new one as i see there is a lot of useful info here regarding genetics
Oh yes, there certainly is. Just upload the raw data once again and there you go. I'll be happy to discuss your results.

Перун
02-16-2018, 09:18 PM
Oh yes, there certainly is. Just upload the raw data once again and there you go. I'll be happy to discuss your results.


I already created one

Leto
02-16-2018, 09:32 PM
I already created one
Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 55.02
2 Atlantic_Med 15.71
3 Caucasus 12.9
4 Siberian 7.76
5 Gedrosia 6.19
6 South_Asian 1.1
7 Southwest_Asian 1.08
8 East_African 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 9.74
2 Russian (HGDP) 11.36
3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 11.84
4 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 11.99
5 Russian (Dodecad) 12.55
6 Polish (Dodecad) 13.28
7 Russian_B (Behar) 13.45
8 Hungarians (Behar) 14.88
9 Belorussian (Behar) 15.36
10 Chuvashs (Behar) 16.54

You're almost 8% Siberian, yet 23andme says only 0.5%. That's a huge underestimation. However, people say raw data from V5 on GEDmatch Genesis uses much fewer SNPs than before, so maybe these Genesis results are skewed.

Перун
02-16-2018, 09:38 PM
Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 55.02
2 Atlantic_Med 15.71
3 Caucasus 12.9
4 Siberian 7.76
5 Gedrosia 6.19
6 South_Asian 1.1
7 Southwest_Asian 1.08
8 East_African 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 9.74
2 Russian (HGDP) 11.36
3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 11.84
4 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 11.99
5 Russian (Dodecad) 12.55
6 Polish (Dodecad) 13.28
7 Russian_B (Behar) 13.45
8 Hungarians (Behar) 14.88
9 Belorussian (Behar) 15.36
10 Chuvashs (Behar) 16.54

You're almost 8% Siberian, yet 23andme says only 0.5%. That's a huge underestimation. However, people say raw data from V5 on GEDmatch Genesis uses much fewer SNPs than before, so maybe these Genesis results are skewed.
0.5% refers to the Yakut ancestry that i have coming from my granfather. My mom is 99.5% european and she has she same % of yakut ancestry as me. What surprises me the most is the 7% caucasus

Leto
02-16-2018, 09:41 PM
0.5% refers to the Yakut ancestry that i have coming from my granfather. My mom is 99.5% european and she has she same % of yakut ancestry as me. What surprises me the most is the 7% caucasus
Well, 23andme covers only the last 500 years or so. GEDmatch digs way deeper, however it has a serious margin of error. Is there anything Asiatic noticeable in your looks?

Перун
02-16-2018, 09:47 PM
Well, 23andme covers only the last 500 years or so. GEDmatch digs way deeper, however it has a serious margin of error. Is there anything Asiatic noticeable in your looks?

Nothing, even my Grandad (Bashkir) had pretty european looks,blue eyes and physical features of a slav. Also the mediterranean ancestry surprises me a lot. That's why i didn't like gedmatch at first, cause they were giving me really different results with each new project

Leto
02-16-2018, 09:54 PM
Nothing, even my Grandad (Bashkir) had pretty european looks,blue eyes and physical features of a slav. Also the mediterranean ancestry surprises me a lot. That's why i didn't like gedmatch at first, cause they were giving me really different results with each new project
That's unusual. Bashkirs are like 35-45% mongoloid, much more than Volga Tatars who are around 20% on average.

Can you try uploading the raw data to regular GEDmatch? I don't trust Genesis after I saw another member's results both from Genesis and regular GM.

Перун
02-16-2018, 10:00 PM
That's unusual. Bashkirs are like 35-45% mongoloid, much more than Volga Tatars who are around 20% on average.

Can you try uploading the raw data to regular GEDmatch? I don't trust Genesis after I saw another member's results both from Genesis and regular GM.



It doesn't allow to do so as i have made the ancestry tests with 23andme. But as i said, my mom also did the test and she was 99.5% european (at least with 23andme), and only having 0.3% east asian, so regardless my grandad was pretty european for being a bashkir. And also my grandma was 100% Eastern european

Перун
02-20-2018, 05:08 AM
bump

aldos
03-04-2018, 05:42 PM
Hi!
My father have I1a1a3

Leto
03-12-2018, 10:49 PM
@Перун
Try uploading the raw data to regular GEDmatch, people say it works now.

Перун
03-19-2018, 06:16 PM
@Перун
Try uploading the raw data to regular GEDmatch, people say it works now.

I uploaded to regular gedmatch, still getting the same results. Is dedocad the best project to use? I'm always using eurogenes more than the rest

Leto
03-19-2018, 07:40 PM
I uploaded to regular gedmatch, still getting the same results. Is dedocad the best project to use? I'm always using eurogenes more than the rest
Send me the number in a PM or rep comment please.

It may not be the best, but definitely not the worst either.

RenaRyuguu
08-31-2019, 10:17 AM
No that's Scandinavian from here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253

Haplogroup I-M253, also known as I1, is a Y chromosome haplogroup. The genetic markers confirmed as identifying I-M253 are the SNPs M253,M307.2/P203.2, M450/S109, P30, P40, L64, L75, L80, L81, L118, L121/S62, L123, L124/S64, L125/S65, L157.1, L186, and L187.[7] It is a primary branch of Haplogroup I-M170 (I*).

The haplogroup reaches its peak frequencies in Sweden (52 percent of males in Västra Götaland County) and western Finland (more than 50 percent in Satakunta province).[8] In terms of national averages, I-M253 is found in 35–38 per cent of Swedish males,[9] 32.8% of Danish males,[10] about 31.5% of Norwegian males,[11] and about 28% of Finnish males.[12]