are chechens spartanlike???

[grecoroman]

the small nation of chechens had 2 wars with russia

chechens are over repressented in islamic insurgent groups like isis, al qaida and the fsa

chechens are also over repressented in mma

would you agree that the chechens have a spartanlike mentality???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9_zf8Al_hw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp4M9HpFtws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imdWiQkcsto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNyKNlQLVVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1muPJ-pKWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqKr6NhmiD8

[Cristiano viejo]

No since they are unable to have an own country.

[grecoroman]

No since they are unable to have an own country.

they have theyr own republic under khadirov

[Cristiano viejo]

they have theyr own republic under khadirov

Not enough to be considered Alpha. The fact that they tried to be an independent country proves this.

[grecoroman]

Not enough to be considered Alpha. The fact that they tried to be an independent country proves this.

they defied a country with 140 million peoples while there are only 2 million chechens. 1 vs 70

[Cristiano viejo]

they defied a country with 140 million peoples while there are only 2 million chechens. 1 vs 70

But failed. Spartans would have won, and well, the thing was not so, there were not 140 millions of Ruskis fighting against 2 millions of Chechens, eh...

[jingorex]

like CV said, their country is a vassal to Russia...so by default, no.

[Black Panther]

Russians could obliterate Caucasians overnight.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Yes, they are.

[jackrussell]

All authentic Caucasian tribes fiercely independent and noble .

[Tauromachos]

All authentic Caucasian tribes fiercely independent and noble .

And not Turkish^

[grecoroman]

All authentic Caucasian tribes fiercely independent and noble .

but among the caucasians the chechens are the strongest

[Scar]

North Caucasians are badass.

[grecoroman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AR3FRxAeCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRqkcVsSb0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17MNprhaj0

[jackrussell]

And not Turkish^

:D

Dude , Caucasia predates " Nationality " . The narrative you are quoting belongs to 19th century text books.

Your narrative is 200 years old i.e Turks belong to Asian Steppes .

Turks and Circassians were the core components of Hitittes ; French historian even writes about it but most importantly we already know who we are .

History you believe was written with a view to " write Turk off " from the narrative .

You end up believing that 1000 years ago Turks popped out of Asia into History's pages .

:D

Your whole narrative is based upon denying reality .

Romantically hopelesss behaviour if you ask me .

:D

[jackrussell]

but among the caucasians the chechens are the strongest


Chechen and Circassian are equal when it comes to muscle power .

[Tauromachos]

:D

Dude , Caucasia predates " Nationality " . The narrative you are quoting belongs to 19th century text books.

The narrative of Turkish nationality by Kemal Attaturk :D




Turks and Circassians were the core components of Hitittes ; French historian even writes about it but most importantly we already know who we are .


Circassians maybe, Turks definetly not:D



History you believe was written with a view to " write Turk off " from the narrative .


Turks where not part of Asia Minor's history or the history of the Caucasus in Hittite times

They became part in the Middle Ages around the 9-th century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Rum

[jackrussell]

The narrative of Turkish nationality by Kemal Attaturk :D


No actually the Narrative of unbiased History with evidence freely available online . It is also a Caucasian Narrative too i.e it is ancient .



Circassians maybe, Turks definetly not:D

You are using word Turk but you mean Mongoloid ; this is not a sound logic because we know independent historians do claim that some Turks were red/blonde haired and blue eyed .




Turks where not part of Asia Minor's history or the history of the Caucasus in Hittite times


Not true . Kumuks were a Turks and they were Hittites according to Prof Maspero . According to him Kusha and Kumuks were the mainstream of Hitittes .



They became part in the Middle Ages around the 9-th century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Rum


This is the version of History you believe to be true but it is hopelessly unrealistic . Gobekli Tepe is full of Turks footprints but you have no idea about the findings of Gobekli Tepe , do you ?

:)

Translator ought to help ;

https://ekstrembilgi.com/arkeoloji/gobeklitepede-on-turk-izleri/

[Tauromachos]

Gobekli Tepe is full of Turks footprints but you have no idea about the findings of Gobekli Tepe , do you ?

:)

Translator ought to help ;

https://ekstrembilgi.com/arkeoloji/gobeklitepede-on-turk-izleri/

This is the version of history you believe to be true^
Or have been taught to
believe.

Not very realistic and far from objective

[jackrussell]

This is the version of history you believe to be true^
Or have been taught to
believe.

Not very realistic and far from objective


:D

You would say that obviously .

I understand .

Truth is Turks come in all colours and all religions ; they always did .

Turks have been around since ancient times .

That is normal and expected .

I can show you 100's of Anglo/Euro/US/Canada Turks with blonde hair and blue oriental eyes.


Gobekli Tepe is not the oldest fine either ; we find stone inscriptions everywhere in Anatolia ; Tamgas and Turkic Runes too .


Your belief that Turks who managed to tame the horse and forge the steel never lived in part of Eurasia i.e Asia Minor is really a belief or rather a Dogma .

[Tauromachos]

:DI understand .

Truth is Turks come in all colours and all religions ; they always did .
Turks have been around since ancient times .

I have heard the same thing about Slavs^



I can show you 100's of Anglo/Euro/US/Canada Turks with blonde hair and blue oriental eyes.

I can show you Greeks with dark hair and dark eyes^





Your belief that Turks who managed to tame the horse and forge the steel never lived in part of Eurasia i.e Asia Minor is really a belief or rather a Dogma .

Was Horse taming a Turkish invention^?

The belief that in all the Greek speakig Areas of Anatolia and Pontos which had Greek names all people where Hellenized Anatolians/West Asians
and no native Greeks lived is belief or rather a dogma.

And a very stupid one unfortunately promoted sometimes also by some Greeks

[jackrussell]

I have heard the same thing about Slavs^



I can show you Greeks with dark hair and dark eyes^





Was Horse taming a Turkish invention^?

The belief that in all the Greek speakig Areas of Anatolia and Pontos which had Greek names all people where Hellenized Anatolians/West Asians
and no native Greeks lived is belief or rather a dogma.

And a very stupid one unfortunately promoted sometimes also by some Greeks


Have you heard about the times of Europe when claiming Turkish ancestory was common amongs the high society members ?

Not too long ago , 300 years or more .

:D

Turks were certainly amongs the very first peoples who have tamed the horse and forged the steel ; these are known facts .

Circassians also have the same claim too .

Most of Greek Mythology can be found in Circassian Mythology too .


The Great Game is lame and based on scientifically unsound scenario .

Circassians are of the firm opinion that it was a Circassian Nart who killed the Dragon and saved the Princess ; It was another Circassian Nart who stole the fire from Gods too .

You only got one side of whole story ; I got all sides .

:D

No one sad Greeks never ruled Anatolia either .

Greeks rule Greece today but Turks also live in Greece , don't they ?

It's always been like that .

:D

It will always be like that ; names might change but people stay the same thru the ages .

[grecoroman]

:D

You would say that obviously .

I understand .

Truth is Turks come in all colours and all religions ; they always did .

Turks have been around since ancient times .

That is normal and expected .

I can show you 100's of Anglo/Euro/US/Canada Turks with blonde hair and blue oriental eyes.


Gobekli Tepe is not the oldest fine either ; we find stone inscriptions everywhere in Anatolia ; Tamgas and Turkic Runes too .


Your belief that Turks who managed to tame the horse and forge the steel never lived in part of Eurasia i.e Asia Minor is really a belief or rather a Dogma .

Lol like the black supremacists!!! We wuz the real Europeans and shieeet we wuz caucasian and shieeet nikkuh

[JohnSmith]

No since they are unable to have an own country.

Does the same apply for Catalonia?lol

[Tauromachos]

Lol like the black supremacists!!! We wuz the real Europeans and shieeet we wuz caucasian and shieeet nikkuh

UHHHH DUHHHH DUUUHH THESE TRACKSSSS

[Mingle]

But failed. Spartans would have won, and well, the thing was not so, there were not 140 millions of Ruskis fighting against 2 millions of Chechens, eh...

Chechens won the first war but couldn't survive as a country cause they were internationally isolated and then lost the second war.

Spartans wouldn't have won if they were in the position of Chechens where they have such a massive numbers disadvantage. Chechnya also has a decent amount of autonomy.

[jackrussell]

Lol like the black supremacists!!! We wuz the real Europeans and shieeet we wuz caucasian and shieeet nikkuh

You are a Caucasoid EuroAsian.

:D


You are Caucasian and you live on the Eurasian Continent .

:D

Deny it at your own peril .

[JohnSmith]

:D

You would say that obviously .

I understand .

Truth is Turks come in all colours and all religions ; they always did .

Turks have been around since ancient times .

That is normal and expected .

I can show you 100's of Anglo/Euro/US/Canada Turks with blonde hair and blue oriental eyes.


Gobekli Tepe is not the oldest fine either ; we find stone inscriptions everywhere in Anatolia ; Tamgas and Turkic Runes too .


Your belief that Turks who managed to tame the horse and forge the steel never lived in part of Eurasia i.e Asia Minor is really a belief or rather a Dogma .

Turks are good people from what I have seen and have a large range of looks they are a large country.

[Cristiano viejo]

Does the same apply for Catalonia?lol
Majority of Catalans consider Spain their country, so it is not comparable.


Chechens won the first war but couldn't survive as a country cause they were internationally isolated and then lost the second war.
This is debatable and having near 100.000 deads and only a few thousands of Russians dead, I would not consider that a Chechen victory :rolleyes:


Spartans wouldn't have won if they were in the position of Chechens where they have such a massive numbers disadvantage. Chechnya also has a decent amount of autonomy.

I was joking with that of Spartans. But at least Spartans always (or almost) remained their country in their own hands.

[grecoroman]

You are a Caucasoid EuroAsian.

:D


You are Caucasian and you live on the Eurasian Continent .

:D

Deny it at your own peril .

What does that have to do with circassians and chechens being Turks??? The turkish peoples are from central asia. Anything claiming different is delussional garbage

[catgeorge]

Chechnyans are all huff and bluster.

Greeks go to Chechnya to put them in their place in Chechnya


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwXiZ1IBtqQ

[grecoroman]

Both greeks and chechens own the titel honorary europeans

[Cristiano viejo]

Both greeks and chechens own the titel honorary europeans

Chechens are Muslims, boy.

[catgeorge]

Both greeks and chechens own the titel honorary europeans

No Chechnyans kill innocent school kids to make a point we have nothing to do with this Mongol-Asiatic scum.

[grecoroman]

No Chechnyans kill innocent school kids to make a point we have nothing to do with this Mongol-Asiatic scum.

Those are terrorists!!! There are also ethnic greeks converts now in Syria killing christians

[grecoroman]

I dont care about religion. Race is more important then some semitic fairy tales

[catgeorge]

Those are terrorists!!! There are also ethnic greeks converts now in Syria killing christians

They are not Greeks they are indoctrinated Islamic Arab scum. they have nothing to do with Hellenic culture - they made their choice now they need to live with the filth that comes with it.

[grecoroman]

They are not Greeks they are indoctrinated Islamic Arab scum. they have nothing to do with Hellenic culture - they made their choice now they need to live with the filth that comes with it.

I agree so that also means that we can not Paint all chechens with the same brush!!

[catgeorge]

I agree so that also means that we can not Paint all chechens with the same brush!!

Possibly true - but still - they have a long history of carrying out terror...and this is the sticking point to why?

[Tauromachos]

Both greeks and chechens own the titel honorary europeans

Duh Niguh https://soundcloud.com/nikoasdzn/nizma-juanita-prod1998freestyle-hidden-track

[grecoroman]

Duh Niguh https://soundcloud.com/nikoasdzn/nizma-juanita-prod1998freestyle-hidden-track

That song or rap was so black that IT stole my headphones

[silentkiller]

You, Western European guys do not know a lot about Russia. Chechens are a low-educated Muslim people, they parasitize at the expense of other traditional regions of Russia. There is no work, not because there is nothing to do, this is because the Chechens are good soldiers, but bad workers. Why there is no known scientist, writer or programmer from Chechnya? The answer is obvious - Islam. If they had their own separate country, they would quickly turn into another sand nigger country and terrorists would flow to Russia even more than now. Kadyrov is Putin's dog, who earns wage in the Kremlin. This is a forced union, the Russians and Chechens understand this. They can not create something worthwhile, because the Muslim North Caucasus is a big low-profile banana republic. We are too different.

[Yaglakar]

Chechen society is based on violence and physical strength. Cronyism and tribalism plagues their society. In Europe prestige and respect comes from tertiary education and meritocratic principles which determine ones position in society. In Chechnya having MMA card or attending some notorious fighting club will give one traction in society. That is why all parents send their kids to some sort of physical combat club. Old Spartan days of physical prowess are long over, spartan flocks can be eliminated with a press of a button. OP lives in an imaginary world. He hasn't met any Chechens and bases his views on his intrinsic racism and youtube videos.

[Yaglakar]

You, Western European guys do not know a lot about Russia. Chechens are a low-educated Muslim people, they parasitize at the expense of other traditional regions of Russia. There is no work, not because there is nothing to do, this is because the Chechens are good soldiers, but bad workers. Why there is no known scientist, writer or programmer from Chechnya? The answer is obvious - Islam. If they had their own separate country, they would quickly turn into another sand nigger country and terrorists would flow to Russia even more than now. Kadyrov is Putin's dog, who earns wage in the Kremlin. This is a forced union, the Russians and Chechens understand this. They can not create something worthwhile, because the Muslim North Caucasus is a big low-profile banana republic. We are too different.

It has very little to do with Islam and far more to do with culture and mentality. Chechens did not have a writing system despite close proximity to Armenia and Georgia which in itself is quite strange. They did not even adopt Arabic script following conversion to Islam. The few samples available written supposedly by Chechens are religious brochures in ARABIC language and script.

[Noxv]

Chechen casaulties are estimated to be around 25.000 while Russian casaulties are around 40.000. The only reason Chechnya is part of Russia is because they payed of the Chechens.

[Noxv]

Chechnyans are all huff and bluster.

Greeks go to Chechnya to put them in their place in Chechnya


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwXiZ1IBtqQ

Lol, one Greek wins over a Chechen in MMA and you are proud XD. Lets play a game for every Greek win over a Chechen in combat sport i will give you two videos of a Chechen winning over a Greek. Lets go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWAkJPXJE8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYZ6fVNp314

[Noxv]

You, Western European guys do not know a lot about Russia. Chechens are a low-educated Muslim people, they parasitize at the expense of other traditional regions of Russia. There is no work, not because there is nothing to do, this is because the Chechens are good soldiers, but bad workers. Why there is no known scientist, writer or programmer from Chechnya? The answer is obvious - Islam. If they had their own separate country, they would quickly turn into another sand nigger country and terrorists would flow to Russia even more than now. Kadyrov is Putin's dog, who earns wage in the Kremlin. This is a forced union, the Russians and Chechens understand this. They can not create something worthwhile, because the Muslim North Caucasus is a big low-profile banana republic. We are too different.

Chechens are not "low-educated" lol, we have many scientists and great poets. If you bothered to look it up you would have known.

[Noxv]

It has very little to do with Islam and far more to do with culture and mentality. Chechens did not have a writing system despite close proximity to Armenia and Georgia which in itself is quite strange. They did not even adopt Arabic script following conversion to Islam. The few samples available written supposedly by Chechens are religious brochures in ARABIC language and script.

What are you talking about? Chechen society is not based on "violence". Chechens used Georgian and Arabic scripts before.

[silentkiller]

Chechens are not "low-educated" lol, we have many scientists and great poets. If you bothered to look it up you would have known.
Okay, could you provide me with links, please?

[Porn Master]

there are Chechens whom I know in real life very educated and good and also there are really arrogant dicks who behave tough themselves. I think it's not right to generalize them as bad people when you can find unadequated dumb pricks among your own people a lot

[Перун]

You, Western European guys do not know a lot about Russia. Chechens are a low-educated Muslim people, they parasitize at the expense of other traditional regions of Russia. There is no work, not because there is nothing to do, this is because the Chechens are good soldiers, but bad workers. Why there is no known scientist, writer or programmer from Chechnya? The answer is obvious - Islam. If they had their own separate country, they would quickly turn into another sand nigger country and terrorists would flow to Russia even more than now. Kadyrov is Putin's dog, who earns wage in the Kremlin. This is a forced union, the Russians and Chechens understand this. They can not create something worthwhile, because the Muslim North Caucasus is a big low-profile banana republic. We are too different.

Low-educated muslims? Is there high educated muslims? Their maximum aspiration in life is to buy a fancy car, become a gangster and pretend they though while in group. Is not a chechen, iraqui, saudi arabia..... thing, is a muslim thing. Just look at the richest countries in the middle east and see in what they expend the money. Spend all and don't think in the future, monkey mentality.

[Noxv]

Sure, ill give you some links.

Kanta Ibragimov(Writer, nominated twice for the Nobel Prize in Literature)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2,_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%A5%D0%B0% D0%BC%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87


Khassan Baiev(Famous Chechen surgeon and hero who healed both Chechens and Russians during the war. Nominated for the Nobel Prize in 2017)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%81 %D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%96%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BE% D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

Magomed Aliev(Respected doctor in Russia and the Soviet Union, has recieved many medals for his achievement in Health care and Public Health)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%9C%D0%B0 %D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8% D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

Malika Arsanukaeva(She is an expert in the field of the history of law and the state , civil and arbitration process, applied sociology.)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%B0%D 0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D 0%B0_%D0%A1%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0 %B2%D0%BD%D0%B0

Magomed Inderbiev(War hero for the Soviet Union, Honored doctor of the Russian Federation)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%B5%D 0%B2,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4_% D0%A2%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0 %B2%D0%B8%D1%87

Khassan Turkaev(Doctor of Philology and Decorated with many medals)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%A5 %D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%B8% D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

There are MANY more that i havent mentioned.

[Noxv]

Congrats Porn Master, you made the most sense in this Thread :thumb001:. Lol

[Porn Master]

Congrats Porn Master, you made the most sense in this Thread :thumb001:. Lol



wut??

[frankhammer]

Poor, religious and uneducated. Perfect fodder for war or a supposed martial society.

If there were no all pervasive media as we know it today, Russia might not have left any alive.

[Noxv]

there are Chechens whom I know in real life very educated and good and also there are really arrogant dicks who behave tough themselves. I think it's not right to generalize them as bad people when you can find unadequated dumb pricks among your own people a lot


wut??

"there are Chechens whom I know in real life very educated and good and also there are really arrogant dicks who behave tough themselves. I think it's not right to generalize them as bad people when you can find unadequated dumb pricks among your own people a lot"

Thats what you said and it makes the most sense lol.

[Porn Master]

"there are Chechens whom I know in real life very educated and good and also there are really arrogant dicks who behave tough themselves. I think it's not right to generalize them as bad people when you can find unadequated dumb pricks among your own people a lot"

Thats what you said and it makes the most sense lol.





yeah i know them

[user_]

The reason why nord caucasus is violent is Russia. Only after separating from Russia they can become normal states. And Georgia will help them with the reforming.

Btw North Caucasus was christian before, the oldest church in Russia is found in NC and was built when Caucasia was united by georgians.